Title: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Mike Dougherty aka Knightstalker on July 28, 2004, 10:25:18 AM
Post by: Mike Dougherty aka Knightstalker on July 28, 2004, 10:25:18 AM
This was in todays Jersey Journal:
NJCU
NJCU
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: john jacob smith on August 18, 2004, 05:50:37 PM
Post by: john jacob smith on August 18, 2004, 05:50:37 PM
Whats good w/ the skyline this year?? MSMC got a good squad comin back this year..... any word on the new recruits????
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rob Grey on October 19, 2004, 09:55:01 AM
Post by: Rob Grey on October 19, 2004, 09:55:01 AM
'Sup everybody...
Serious question for you guys: could SUNY Maritime be the new Bronx Bombers? The team that finished DEAD LAST in the Skyline in '03-'04 seems (I only said SEEMS, so calm down) to have gotten its act together. Word on the street is their brand new coaching staff went nuts in the off-season and recruited some pretty sick kids from Alabama Southern. There's also a rumor about 2 ex-members of the championship Kings Point squad from a couple years ago suiting up. Now, y'all know I don't know nothin' about nothin', I just tell you what I hear. So somebody get @ me! What's good with SUNY Maritime!!!
Serious question for you guys: could SUNY Maritime be the new Bronx Bombers? The team that finished DEAD LAST in the Skyline in '03-'04 seems (I only said SEEMS, so calm down) to have gotten its act together. Word on the street is their brand new coaching staff went nuts in the off-season and recruited some pretty sick kids from Alabama Southern. There's also a rumor about 2 ex-members of the championship Kings Point squad from a couple years ago suiting up. Now, y'all know I don't know nothin' about nothin', I just tell you what I hear. So somebody get @ me! What's good with SUNY Maritime!!!
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: HoopsterMan on November 02, 2004, 10:16:51 PM
Post by: HoopsterMan on November 02, 2004, 10:16:51 PM
Let hear it for the winner of the 2003/2004 Skyline "Donkey of the Year" award. It goes to President Berman from Manhattanville College. Last year he sold out the Valiants Mens Basketball Team by going with a "name" coach instead of a real coach. Dean the Dream turned out to be quite the nightmare! From missing practices, sleeping in the gym, making the team bus drive him home after games, spitting on the court, cursing at opposing players (college kids), throwing chairs, threatening his players with his next years recruiting...he was a real disaster. The team was able to overcome this "jerk" by coming together under the leadership of the assistant coaches led by Pat Scanlon. Pat did a miracle job keeping the team focused while "The Nightmare" ranted and raved in incoherent verbiage.
The team complained to the President but the publicity was worth it according to our 2003/2004 Donkey Award Winner. Even when the "Dream" fired a few long time assistant M'Ville coaches the President did nothing (except smile for the cameras). Now thats loyalty!
In 2005 the M'Ville President ignored all advice and decided to honor Deans contract for another year (publicity & politics). Did anyone see the alumni magazine for this year with multiple pictures of "Dean" and President Berman? Were the alumni aware of the horrible situation taking place? The alumni basketball players were. This went over so well that several key players from the 2004 team transferred to other schools this year!
Why come forward now? Well the rumor is that Dean "The Nightmare" has finally resigned and Pat Scanlon is the new head coach. This move should of been made last year....Its not that us M'Ville fans don't feel bad for the former coaches past problems but he was hired for the wrong reasons and in the end it wasn't fair for the young men of the team nor was it fair for him. He was used for his name by a man more interested in publicity and politics then in the student athletes. Good Luck Pat! Nice Job Berman!
The team complained to the President but the publicity was worth it according to our 2003/2004 Donkey Award Winner. Even when the "Dream" fired a few long time assistant M'Ville coaches the President did nothing (except smile for the cameras). Now thats loyalty!
In 2005 the M'Ville President ignored all advice and decided to honor Deans contract for another year (publicity & politics). Did anyone see the alumni magazine for this year with multiple pictures of "Dean" and President Berman? Were the alumni aware of the horrible situation taking place? The alumni basketball players were. This went over so well that several key players from the 2004 team transferred to other schools this year!
Why come forward now? Well the rumor is that Dean "The Nightmare" has finally resigned and Pat Scanlon is the new head coach. This move should of been made last year....Its not that us M'Ville fans don't feel bad for the former coaches past problems but he was hired for the wrong reasons and in the end it wasn't fair for the young men of the team nor was it fair for him. He was used for his name by a man more interested in publicity and politics then in the student athletes. Good Luck Pat! Nice Job Berman!
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: L.A. Baller on November 10, 2004, 02:38:16 AM
Post by: L.A. Baller on November 10, 2004, 02:38:16 AM
This post by HoopsterMan is quite intriguing. First of all it seems as if it came from somebody very close to the situation and might of even come from Pat Scanlon himself. I say this because this post was posted on November 2 yet the official announcement from Manhattanville did not come until November 4 according to the website. Scanlon might have been trying to politic for the job and felt this was the best way to get quick publicity. Calling your boss a "Donkey" is not the way to go. Neither is implying the athletic department or administration is inept in the hiring process because then what can be said of Scanlon's hire? The writer of that post makes it seem as if Scanlon was interviewed initially for the position last summer when the job was available. This was not the case as wasn't he hired as an assistant by Meminger? Also as much bad things was said about Meminger's antics and actions and his relationship with the President it is not good to spill now old milk for everybody in this country to read. It makes Manhattanville, President Berman, the Athletic Department, Coach Scanlon, and Meminger look all inept and awfully bad. Good luck to Manhattanville and Coach Scanlon. Remember this is D3 basketball and the love and passion for the game comes first and that's what makes the basketball as incredible as it is.
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: HoopsterMan on November 10, 2004, 07:26:03 PM
Post by: HoopsterMan on November 10, 2004, 07:26:03 PM
My response: No I am not a "coach" from Manhattanvile, I am a parent of one of the players who transferred after the season. You weren't there, I was. I saw first hand how President Berman was willing to ignore Deans antics simply so the school could continue to receive attention from ESPN, FOX and the others. I watched him spit on the gym floor, curse at the opposing players and throw chairs against the wall. I heard him insult the players and the referees and I watched how the President turned his back on all of it. I guess I am naive, I forgot that even at the D-3 college level, its all about the money.
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2004, 07:48:39 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2004, 07:48:39 PM
L.A. Baller, how cynical of you. I think even a 23-year-old coach knows where to draw the line. Besides, politicing on the Skyline board is like campaigning for a Democrat in Wyoming. There's nobody there to listen, and if there were, they wouldn't care.
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: Coll. Insider on November 16, 2004, 12:01:37 AM
Post by: Coll. Insider on November 16, 2004, 12:01:37 AM
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Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: Privateer SID on December 23, 2004, 05:18:41 PM
Post by: Privateer SID on December 23, 2004, 05:18:41 PM
Any life out there, I guess I'm spoiled being a former njac guy, I know there's got to be some people out there who want to talk about Skyline basketball. I'm sad I didn't get on here earlier, it's nice to see a post back in October about Maritime. We have lucked out with a legit coaching staff that's dedicated to making this program what is was back when they played. Although we have yet to win a game, we have played some of the best in the area including Army who were overwhelmed with the talent we had. Then we had the CUNY and Skyline Conference champs and almost beat Westbury in their home opener, then we should have beaten Farmingdale in OT, but we'll be sure to finish the job next time.
Maritime has talent, they have dedication, and they finally have leadership from the bench that will take this team to new heights in the coming years.
I think the Dolphins might still be the Bronx Bombers, as they love to go bombs away from downtown, sorry James. The Privateers are playing more athletic ball, and we're hungry, you can only keep someone in the basement for so long, it's time for our rebirth.
Maritime has talent, they have dedication, and they finally have leadership from the bench that will take this team to new heights in the coming years.
I think the Dolphins might still be the Bronx Bombers, as they love to go bombs away from downtown, sorry James. The Privateers are playing more athletic ball, and we're hungry, you can only keep someone in the basement for so long, it's time for our rebirth.
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2004, 05:39:48 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 23, 2004, 05:39:48 PM
Good to see there's some acknowledgement that Maritime exists. Send some of your basketball fans our way so we can have more of a real conversation here. 
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: Privateer SID on December 23, 2004, 06:05:30 PM
Post by: Privateer SID on December 23, 2004, 06:05:30 PM
Yea, once school starts up, I'm going to try and promote the site a bit, I might even put the logo on my game programs. Hopefully our site will be up again soon, so I can link up this site there.
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: Mike Dougherty aka Knightstalker on December 27, 2004, 11:05:01 AM
Post by: Mike Dougherty aka Knightstalker on December 27, 2004, 11:05:01 AM
Privateer SID, did you graduate from NJCU and when? Send me an email, I might know you and you probably know me or recognize me.
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ira Thor, NJCU SID on December 29, 2004, 09:18:08 PM
Post by: Ira Thor, NJCU SID on December 29, 2004, 09:18:08 PM
Mike, not only is he an NJCU alum, he's a graduate of the NJCU Office of Sports Information.
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: Privateer SID on January 08, 2005, 05:39:44 PM
Post by: Privateer SID on January 08, 2005, 05:39:44 PM
For all those intersted, Maritime won its first game today 89-78 against Centenary. I missed the game, but seems like it was a good one.
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: heatlee on February 06, 2005, 03:20:01 PM
Post by: heatlee on February 06, 2005, 03:20:01 PM
Can anyone win at Centenary, this guy is 0-20 and will probably lose his next 3 and its not his fault that the college is in the middle of no place and costs an arm and a leg. Someone in athletics needs to do a better job of scheduling.
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: dren on February 22, 2005, 11:05:43 PM
Post by: dren on February 22, 2005, 11:05:43 PM
Now's our chance to prove to the world that D3 hoops is a much followed sport. ESPN has a poll of the Top 10 basketball rivalries. Hope/Calvin is the only non D1 rivalry on the poll. Show your support and vote now!
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=1194
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=1194
Title: Skyline Conference
Post by: d-mac on February 27, 2005, 04:58:12 PM
Post by: d-mac on February 27, 2005, 04:58:12 PM
It is time to find out who is in... and who is out.
Whose bubble has been burst and who is wearing Cinderella's glass slippers.
It's Selection Sunday... and tonight there will be a special "Hoopsville" as the 2005 NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball Brackets are announced... LIVE on our air!
The Road to Salem and Virginia Beach officially starts tonight!
It plans to be a huge night... as 50 womens and 48 mens teams are officially invited to the dance and a chance at a national title.
Some teams already know they are going (thanks to winning their conferences) and some think they are going, but there are always surprises.
So tonight, we will break it all down. Starting at 8:30 PM EST, we will take a look at who is definitely in, who might make it, who will be disappointed, and what match-ups you might want to look forward to seeing later in the week.
Then at 10:00 PM EST... we will broadcast LIVE the Women's Selection Show so you can find out when we do... the 50 teams on the Road to Virginia Beach.
That will be followed by the Men's Selection Show at 10:30 PM EST - when 48 teams find out what their Road to Salem will be like.
After those selections... we will go over it with a fine-tooth comb and find out who we think are the surprises!
And throughout the show, we will hear from different regions with live reports and talk to coaches that have made surprising moves into the tournament.
Of course, you can listen in thank to Goucher College.
We suggest you try and use the low-bandwith signal which will require you to have Real Player and selection the 28K version of the show.
At the same time, you can listen to the Broadcastmonsters.com version, using Windows Media Player (go to the "Hoopsville" page for more information).
And you can share your opinions and questions with us, live on the air.
email - hoopsville@d3hoops.com
AOL IM - Hoopsville2000
And for more information... check out the "Hoopsville" website (www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville)!
Again... it all starts tonight at 8:30 PM EST.
Whose bubble has been burst and who is wearing Cinderella's glass slippers.
It's Selection Sunday... and tonight there will be a special "Hoopsville" as the 2005 NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball Brackets are announced... LIVE on our air!
The Road to Salem and Virginia Beach officially starts tonight!
It plans to be a huge night... as 50 womens and 48 mens teams are officially invited to the dance and a chance at a national title.
Some teams already know they are going (thanks to winning their conferences) and some think they are going, but there are always surprises.
So tonight, we will break it all down. Starting at 8:30 PM EST, we will take a look at who is definitely in, who might make it, who will be disappointed, and what match-ups you might want to look forward to seeing later in the week.
Then at 10:00 PM EST... we will broadcast LIVE the Women's Selection Show so you can find out when we do... the 50 teams on the Road to Virginia Beach.
That will be followed by the Men's Selection Show at 10:30 PM EST - when 48 teams find out what their Road to Salem will be like.
After those selections... we will go over it with a fine-tooth comb and find out who we think are the surprises!
And throughout the show, we will hear from different regions with live reports and talk to coaches that have made surprising moves into the tournament.
Of course, you can listen in thank to Goucher College.
We suggest you try and use the low-bandwith signal which will require you to have Real Player and selection the 28K version of the show.
At the same time, you can listen to the Broadcastmonsters.com version, using Windows Media Player (go to the "Hoopsville" page for more information).
And you can share your opinions and questions with us, live on the air.
email - hoopsville@d3hoops.com
AOL IM - Hoopsville2000
And for more information... check out the "Hoopsville" website (www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville)!
Again... it all starts tonight at 8:30 PM EST.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on August 17, 2005, 02:33:26 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on August 17, 2005, 02:33:26 PM
Hey everyone I'm new to posting up I will be new to the skyline conference aswell I am a junior college transfer from maryland. Has anyone heard anything about the skyline recruiting classes, or who's gonna be tough I'm looking foward for the jump from junior college to D3! Any tips hints or things to look out for will be helpful. ;D
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2005, 02:35:41 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2005, 02:35:41 PM
Welcome aboard. First of all, we don't get too much info from Skyline schools or fans, on the message board or on the site in general, so you're not likely to get too many answers.
Secondly ... careful what you say. Most coaches don't like their players posting. Good luck this season.
Secondly ... careful what you say. Most coaches don't like their players posting. Good luck this season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on August 17, 2005, 04:34:17 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on August 17, 2005, 04:34:17 PM
thanks alot pat i didnt know how my coach would react thats why I didnt say what team lol? But never the less thanks any info that you have I will be greatful. 8)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: privateersid on August 25, 2005, 07:22:24 PM
Post by: privateersid on August 25, 2005, 07:22:24 PM
I think I'm one of the only people who actually post on the Skyline board. Although, I think everyone is too busy talking njac ball to be on the skyline board.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 20, 2005, 07:28:16 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 20, 2005, 07:28:16 AM
Besides skylineconference.org where else can i get info on the conference. anyone have anyword on any of the teams in the conference?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 22, 2006, 10:03:26 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 22, 2006, 10:03:26 AM
2006 Skyline Conference Men's Basketball Tournament Quarterfinal Results
#1 Farmingdale State 98, #8 Kings Point 72
#2 Manhattanville 73, #7 Old Westbury 69
#3 Mount Saint Mary 81, #6 Yeshiva 70
#5 Stevens 77, #4 St. Joseph's 68
#1 Farmingdale State 98, #8 Kings Point 72
#2 Manhattanville 73, #7 Old Westbury 69
#3 Mount Saint Mary 81, #6 Yeshiva 70
#5 Stevens 77, #4 St. Joseph's 68
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2006, 10:30:00 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2006, 10:30:00 AM
2006 Skyline Conference Tournament Semifinals
#1 Farmingdale State 75, #5 Stevens 54
#2 Manhattanville 89, #3 Mount Saint Mary 85
#1 Farmingdale State 75, #5 Stevens 54
#2 Manhattanville 89, #3 Mount Saint Mary 85
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on February 27, 2006, 02:32:19 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on February 27, 2006, 02:32:19 PM
ECAC Selections (http://www.ecac.org/feature/feature.asp?id=2816)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: patcummings on February 28, 2006, 06:36:28 AM
Post by: patcummings on February 28, 2006, 06:36:28 AM
Assuming anyone checks this...
NCAASports.com in conjunction with D3hoops.com will provide live coverage of the first round game between Ursinus/SUNY-Farmingdale. Links will be posted soon on both sites.
NCAASports.com in conjunction with D3hoops.com will provide live coverage of the first round game between Ursinus/SUNY-Farmingdale. Links will be posted soon on both sites.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 28, 2006, 06:34:15 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 28, 2006, 06:34:15 PM
Some information on SUNY-Farmingdale's NCAA Opponent--Ursinus College
Overall record: 21-6
Conference: 15-3
In-region: 20-5
Conference: Centennial Conference
Finished in first place in regular season. Defeated Johns Hopkins to win the conference tournament. Received a Pool A bid.
Longest winning streaks: Eight games and four games twice.
Longest losing streak: Two games.
Best wins: Beat Johns Hopkins (18-8) three times.
Massey ranking: 62
Overall record: 21-6
Conference: 15-3
In-region: 20-5
Conference: Centennial Conference
Finished in first place in regular season. Defeated Johns Hopkins to win the conference tournament. Received a Pool A bid.
Longest winning streaks: Eight games and four games twice.
Longest losing streak: Two games.
Best wins: Beat Johns Hopkins (18-8) three times.
Massey ranking: 62
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 03, 2006, 01:56:21 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 03, 2006, 01:56:21 PM
Some information on SUNY-Farmingdale's next opponent--Virginia Wesleyan
Overall record: 25-3
Conference: 17-1
In-region: 24-3
Conference: Old Dominion Athletic Conference (ODAC)
Finished regular season in first place. Won conference tournament with an 81-78 overtime win against Randolph-Macon.
Longest winning streak: 23 games (current). Last loss on Nov. 30, 2005.
Longest losing streak: two games
Best wins: Beat Randolph-Macon (22-6) three times, Hampden-Sydney (18-8), and Christopher Newport (20-7).
Losses: Trinity, TX (20-6), Salisbury (15-13), and Hampden-Sydney (18-8).
D3Hoops.com ranking: 7
Massey ranking: 22
Overall record: 25-3
Conference: 17-1
In-region: 24-3
Conference: Old Dominion Athletic Conference (ODAC)
Finished regular season in first place. Won conference tournament with an 81-78 overtime win against Randolph-Macon.
Longest winning streak: 23 games (current). Last loss on Nov. 30, 2005.
Longest losing streak: two games
Best wins: Beat Randolph-Macon (22-6) three times, Hampden-Sydney (18-8), and Christopher Newport (20-7).
Losses: Trinity, TX (20-6), Salisbury (15-13), and Hampden-Sydney (18-8).
D3Hoops.com ranking: 7
Massey ranking: 22
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on May 13, 2006, 06:18:58 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on May 13, 2006, 06:18:58 AM
Hey everyone I know that Manhattenville, Kings Point, and Stevens are leaving the SKYLINE, does anyone know about any other schools leaving or any that are planning to come in
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 13, 2006, 06:41:33 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 13, 2006, 06:41:33 PM
There's a post on our blog about that right now, actually: http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/?p=183
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: racer59 on June 30, 2006, 11:56:00 AM
Post by: racer59 on June 30, 2006, 11:56:00 AM
Just noticed that Purchase State has joined the Skyline effective 07. I guess Bard and Poly will be next. It sure doesn't help the conference strengthwise but at least it appears that it will survive. Purchase will be in their second provisional year. Will the NEAC survive?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 30, 2006, 02:17:17 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 30, 2006, 02:17:17 PM
If Bard and Poly join the Skyline, then there might be some worry about the NEAC.
Here's what the NEAC has lost/is losing:
Chestnut Hill (going to D-II)
SUNY-Purchase (going to Skyline)
Villa Julie (going to Capital)
It still has nine schools. The NEAC could strengthen itself by picking up St. Joe's-Brooklyn when that school enters the D-III membership pipeline.
Here's what the NEAC has lost/is losing:
Chestnut Hill (going to D-II)
SUNY-Purchase (going to Skyline)
Villa Julie (going to Capital)
It still has nine schools. The NEAC could strengthen itself by picking up St. Joe's-Brooklyn when that school enters the D-III membership pipeline.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on July 02, 2006, 12:02:18 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on July 02, 2006, 12:02:18 PM
Pat I'm interested in hearing what you think about Centenary's Chances in the PAC??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: racer59 on August 04, 2006, 06:18:01 PM
Post by: racer59 on August 04, 2006, 06:18:01 PM
Well it happened. The Skyline announced that Poly and Bard will join effective the 2007-08 season. Doesn't help keep the men's Lax AQ. The NEAC is now in trouble. I would guess that Wells will probably join, since they are close to Cazenovia, D'youville, and Keuka. Poly and Bard plus Purchase and Russell Sage aren't in the same class athletically as the schools that are leaving the Skyline. At least it will survive. Not sure about the NEAC.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on August 07, 2006, 01:25:29 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on August 07, 2006, 01:25:29 PM
I have been saying for years on these boards that this is the right move for Bard- I'm very pleased.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: racer59 on August 07, 2006, 04:13:22 PM
Post by: racer59 on August 07, 2006, 04:13:22 PM
Now all Bard has to do is get a real athletic program. Add some sports. I know football is out of the question (shame). Based on Bard's demographics, there is no reason why they shouldn't have men' and women's lacrosse and also field hockey for the ladies. The Skyline needs lacrosse teams both men and women. Bard has noexcuse for such a sad department. Only Yeshiva is worse. But they have no campus.At least their men's basketball is competitive.In any case I wish Bard the best and hopefully they will eventually be able to compete with their academic peers. Maybe this is the first step.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on August 09, 2006, 08:44:50 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on August 09, 2006, 08:44:50 PM
Racer59,
With all due respect, this is far from a first step. Taking it for granted that the basketball team can compete in the Skyline was a ton of steps, and building, to get to that point. They've come a long way, and they're committed to go even further. It's not really possible to build a program overnight. But they're on the way. The women;s team was in worse shape than the men's team, and they've built up. The right people are in place- the Skyline is fortunate to get a program hellbent on improving.
What are the football programs like in the Skyline? I would have loved to see football and baseball at Bard. But even any appreciation of athletics by the administration is a recent development.
With all due respect, this is far from a first step. Taking it for granted that the basketball team can compete in the Skyline was a ton of steps, and building, to get to that point. They've come a long way, and they're committed to go even further. It's not really possible to build a program overnight. But they're on the way. The women;s team was in worse shape than the men's team, and they've built up. The right people are in place- the Skyline is fortunate to get a program hellbent on improving.
What are the football programs like in the Skyline? I would have loved to see football and baseball at Bard. But even any appreciation of athletics by the administration is a recent development.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: racer59 on August 12, 2006, 03:34:30 PM
Post by: racer59 on August 12, 2006, 03:34:30 PM
To Raptormania: There will be no football programs in the Skyline when Kings Point leaves. In re: baseball, I'm the wrong guy. I don't follow baseball or soccer, I would need too much caffeine to stay awake. In re: hoops, as of now, unless there is a big change(always possible) Bard men will battle with Poly and Purchase for the basement. The women can add Russell Sage , and NY Maritime for that battle. Currently the rest of the Skyline teams, although not strong ,are a couple of levels above the newbies. Hopefully Bard and the others will add sports and become competitive. Gotta tell ya tho' I love the Raptormania site for Bard.....lotsa yuks......the most entertaining.... :D
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on August 14, 2006, 10:03:31 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on August 14, 2006, 10:03:31 AM
Thanks Racer59,
Thanks for the info- and the compliment! I know that Bard is committed to making those steps forward to become a Skyline contender. IT will be fun to watch them do so. I don't expect miracles overnight, but Coach Wood has already gotten so much progress, I'll put nothing past him.
Thanks for the info- and the compliment! I know that Bard is committed to making those steps forward to become a Skyline contender. IT will be fun to watch them do so. I don't expect miracles overnight, but Coach Wood has already gotten so much progress, I'll put nothing past him.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on August 22, 2006, 08:33:50 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on August 22, 2006, 08:33:50 AM
::) with all do respect to the 07-08 season whos everyones favorite for this year how do you see the conference shaking out??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: carlweathers on September 28, 2006, 11:11:49 AM
Post by: carlweathers on September 28, 2006, 11:11:49 AM
I am hearing that Kings Point has a new coach. John Krikorian was most recently an assistant at Navy under Billy Lange. He also worked for Lange at Kings Point a few years back.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on October 19, 2006, 01:17:08 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on October 19, 2006, 01:17:08 PM
Any Preseason Season Rankings for Mens Skyline??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 22, 2006, 09:57:52 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 22, 2006, 09:57:52 PM
The Valiants are right now considered top 4 in the conference what else did u see in the valiants where did u play in the skyline?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 24, 2006, 01:17:38 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 24, 2006, 01:17:38 AM
I played against them twice last season when they are focused they are dangerous, but they seem to lose focuse sometimes and just try to depend on athleticisim
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CCsalive on November 29, 2006, 06:18:02 PM
Post by: CCsalive on November 29, 2006, 06:18:02 PM
No talk about Maritime's 5OT-win?
How many 25pt+ games in just over one season does Dougherty have?
The kid can play...his older brother used to light it up for Maritime from 97-01
How many 25pt+ games in just over one season does Dougherty have?
The kid can play...his older brother used to light it up for Maritime from 97-01
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on December 01, 2006, 12:11:09 AM
Post by: sixfour on December 01, 2006, 12:11:09 AM
Any talk on the Kings Point game the other night, they beat St Joseph's, looks like they gave them a run there...anyone see the game? Any reviews on KP this year??? And who is St. joseph's?
The school in Maine??
The school in Maine??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 01, 2006, 10:56:42 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 01, 2006, 10:56:42 AM
Quote from: sixfour on December 01, 2006, 12:11:09 AMSt. Joseph's is in Brooklyn. They are not a D3 school but are a member of the USCAA.
Any talk on the Kings Point game the other night, they beat St Joseph's, looks like they gave them a run there...anyone see the game? Any reviews on KP this year??? And who is St. joseph's?
The school in Maine??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on December 02, 2006, 01:49:14 AM
Post by: sixfour on December 02, 2006, 01:49:14 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 01, 2006, 10:56:42 AMKnow anything about them? Heard they took Hunter to the wire and played real tough against King's PointQuote from: sixfour on December 01, 2006, 12:11:09 AMSt. Joseph's is in Brooklyn. They are not a D3 school but are a member of the USCAA.
Any talk on the Kings Point game the other night, they beat St Joseph's, looks like they gave them a run there...anyone see the game? Any reviews on KP this year??? And who is St. joseph's?
The school in Maine??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bigbetty55 on December 02, 2006, 08:13:34 PM
Post by: bigbetty55 on December 02, 2006, 08:13:34 PM
St Joseph's College is in Patchogue, NY. They have another campus in Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2006, 12:04:10 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2006, 12:04:10 PM
Quote from: bigbetty55 on December 02, 2006, 08:13:34 PM
St Joseph's College is in Patchogue, NY. They have another campus in Brooklyn.
St. Joseph's College has two campuses: one in Patchogue, Long Island and one in Brooklyn. The Patchogue campus team is in the Skyline Conference. The Brooklyn campus team is not in D3 and is a member of the USCAA. The team that played Kings Point was the St. Joe's in Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on December 05, 2006, 02:19:02 PM
Post by: sixfour on December 05, 2006, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 03, 2006, 12:04:10 PMThanks alot. I was confused by the whole St Joseph's thing. It is a pretty common school names I guess.Quote from: bigbetty55 on December 02, 2006, 08:13:34 PM
St Joseph's College is in Patchogue, NY. They have another campus in Brooklyn.
St. Joseph's College has two campuses: one in Patchogue, Long Island and one in Brooklyn. The Patchogue campus team is in the Skyline Conference. The Brooklyn campus team is not in D3 and is a member of the USCAA. The team that played Kings Point was the St. Joe's in Brooklyn.
Anyone catch this game? KP is typically a strong Skyline team, I know they are in the middle of a regime change but it seems from the game write up i read St Joseph;s gave them an unexpected run?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: koreanpureplaya6 on December 06, 2006, 02:35:06 PM
Post by: koreanpureplaya6 on December 06, 2006, 02:35:06 PM
Manhattanville might of had a tough road game at Hunter, but you can see by their recent 6-game winning streak and their thrashing of Western Connecticut State, a typical powerhouse in the Little East, the other night that they are a team that is now gelling and very dangerous in the Skyline conference. Their core of returners are mostly juniors and seniors who have played in big games last year, and who are very experienced, the Hunter game was one of their weaker wins and a sloppy game but look out for them the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on December 07, 2006, 06:56:51 PM
Post by: sixfour on December 07, 2006, 06:56:51 PM
Quote from: koreanpureplaya6 on December 06, 2006, 02:35:06 PMagainst Hunter they looked like a team who didnt know "who they were" and lacked a cohesiveness. However like someone has said it is early and they seem very deep, if they gel and get their minds on one track together I would definitely say they can be a good team. Seems like after famringdale the skyline is a bit of a toss up, there doesnt seem to be a clear cut contender for them, yeshiva seems decent as does manhatanville and msm, teams like centenary and cmsv look VERY weak.
Manhattanville might of had a tough road game at Hunter, but you can see by their recent 6-game winning streak and their thrashing of Western Connecticut State, a typical powerhouse in the Little East, the other night that they are a team that is now gelling and very dangerous in the Skyline conference. Their core of returners are mostly juniors and seniors who have played in big games last year, and who are very experienced, the Hunter game was one of their weaker wins and a sloppy game but look out for them the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 07, 2006, 11:34:49 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 07, 2006, 11:34:49 PM
sixfour where did you see centenary and cmsv play? and how can you say msm is tough this year going by the records they arent even in the skyline tournament right now.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on December 08, 2006, 12:17:13 PM
Post by: sixfour on December 08, 2006, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: zonescantstopme on December 07, 2006, 11:34:49 PMthat was a typo, i meant to put centenary msv and msm in the same category. sorry.
sixfour where did you see centenary and cmsv play? and how can you say msm is tough this year going by the records they arent even in the skyline tournament right now.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: koreanpureplaya6 on December 08, 2006, 03:31:52 PM
Post by: koreanpureplaya6 on December 08, 2006, 03:31:52 PM
against Hunter they looked like a team who didnt know "who they were" and lacked a cohesiveness. However like someone has said it is early and they seem very deep, if they gel and get their minds on one track together I would definitely say they can be a good team. Seems like after famringdale the skyline is a bit of a toss up, there doesnt seem to be a clear cut contender for them, yeshiva seems decent as does manhatanville and msm, teams like centenary and cmsv look VERY weak.
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Even with a bad game vs Hunter, they still found a way to win when not playing well, and look at the wins Manhattanville has put together this season already. With wins over a tough Vassar, scrappy and pesty Yeshiva, 20 point win over powerful Western Connecticut, and recently a 20 point win over Mt. St. Mary's. They ARE a GOOD team and anyone can see that. Farmingdale is dangerous and so is Stevens, St. Joe's and Yeshiva. Old Westbury and Kings Point are middle of the pack and Mt St Marys, Centenary, MSV, and Maritime are at the bottom.
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Even with a bad game vs Hunter, they still found a way to win when not playing well, and look at the wins Manhattanville has put together this season already. With wins over a tough Vassar, scrappy and pesty Yeshiva, 20 point win over powerful Western Connecticut, and recently a 20 point win over Mt. St. Mary's. They ARE a GOOD team and anyone can see that. Farmingdale is dangerous and so is Stevens, St. Joe's and Yeshiva. Old Westbury and Kings Point are middle of the pack and Mt St Marys, Centenary, MSV, and Maritime are at the bottom.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: TheBeast on December 09, 2006, 11:57:47 PM
Post by: TheBeast on December 09, 2006, 11:57:47 PM
st joes lost a tough one to york college tonight but hey york is a really good team this yr and st joes hung in there for the most part but its clear that york was the better team maybe next yr st joe good luck in ur conference play tho
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: heatlee on December 15, 2006, 01:43:25 PM
Post by: heatlee on December 15, 2006, 01:43:25 PM
How bad is Centenary, they have 16-88 since the 2002-2003 season. They used to be good when Pat Zipfel was there. He took then to an ECAC appearance, and his assistant is now a Division I head womens' coach.
That must be a difficult place to coach, or Zipfel must be one great coach.
That must be a difficult place to coach, or Zipfel must be one great coach.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on December 17, 2006, 01:52:00 AM
Post by: sixfour on December 17, 2006, 01:52:00 AM
anyone catch KP beat CSI? Reviews?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on December 17, 2006, 10:03:45 AM
Post by: Knightstalker on December 17, 2006, 10:03:45 AM
Have you ever been to Centenary? It is a very small school that only accepted men with the last 15 years or so. The basketball court/gym is maybe the second sorriest Knightstalker has ever seen. The sorriest being Caldwell Colleges. They have almost no facilities at Centenary and have to fight the Town of Hackettstown tooth and nail to even attempt to expand the college.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 17, 2006, 10:42:31 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 17, 2006, 10:42:31 AM
all of the above is true about Centenary, although the Cyclones do have a new facility due to be finished early 07, they have had to have practices and games at the local high school sometimes practice starting after 9 pm. However even though the record doesnt really show it the scores do that Centenary is slowly inproving of their 6 losses 4 could have easily gone the other way. The coach has the program going in the right direction ask anyone who has seen them play this year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 17, 2006, 04:59:00 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 17, 2006, 04:59:00 PM
on another note anyone heard of whats going on up at Mt St Marys there seems to be a big fall off form the previous two years
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 18, 2006, 03:53:08 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 18, 2006, 03:53:08 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on December 17, 2006, 10:03:45 AMCaldwell College no longer plays in the gym where the basketball court was sandwiched between a stage and auditorium-style seating. They opened up a new facility in 2002. I haven't been to Centenary, but I would imagine that their gym couldn't be much worse than the venues at Brooklyn College or D2 Molloy College in Rockville Center, Long Island.
Have you ever been to Centenary? It is a very small school that only accepted men with the last 15 years or so. The basketball court/gym is maybe the second sorriest Knightstalker has ever seen. The sorriest being Caldwell Colleges. They have almost no facilities at Centenary and have to fight the Town of Hackettstown tooth and nail to even attempt to expand the college.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: heatlee on December 18, 2006, 10:10:59 PM
Post by: heatlee on December 18, 2006, 10:10:59 PM
Zipfel won games in that tiny Centenary gym, and made it into a home court advantage, such as it is. He beat both Caldwell, Divison II, and NJIT, ranked highly in Division III at the time, when he was
I still haven't found out why he could win and why they haven't won since he left.
I still haven't found out why he could win and why they haven't won since he left.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 19, 2006, 06:19:53 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 19, 2006, 06:19:53 AM
Do you have something personal against the program?? Seems like your going kind of hard on the Cyclones.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 19, 2006, 11:31:32 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 19, 2006, 11:31:32 AM
Anyone know what happened to Tom Spina at Maritime?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: heatlee on December 21, 2006, 10:00:57 PM
Post by: heatlee on December 21, 2006, 10:00:57 PM
I just wanted to know why they haven't won since Zipfel left.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2006, 11:08:06 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2006, 11:08:06 PM
Quote from: zonescantstopme on December 19, 2006, 06:19:53 AM
Do you have something personal against the program?? Seems like your going kind of hard on the Cyclones.
I didn't get that at all. Seems like normal questions.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: blueknights5 on January 07, 2007, 11:49:50 PM
Post by: blueknights5 on January 07, 2007, 11:49:50 PM
if you want to know anything about the skyline conference then you should know about mike hoyt from mount saint marys, hes the real deal. He finished 3rd in the nation in scoring last season with 27.1 ppg, and he was named a preseason all-american. Also, he proved that he could accelerate at the next level during a loss to D1 davidson, hoyt scored a game high 28 pts.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 08, 2007, 12:16:42 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 08, 2007, 12:16:42 AM
Do you think hoyt will be able to keep his all american status? Looking at their record it would be hard for him to do so unless he can raise the level of his team. I think Brandon Weldon and the Ramirez kid from last year should recognized because if they werent such threats last year hoyt would have had the same type of season he is having this year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: heatlee on January 19, 2007, 09:44:41 PM
Post by: heatlee on January 19, 2007, 09:44:41 PM
Can anyone tell me why Centenary has trouble winning now, but when Pat Zipfel was there they managed to win. This is just a question I have nothing against the school.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 28, 2007, 11:48:17 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 28, 2007, 11:48:17 AM
Mike Hoyt scored 59 against Farmingdale anyone see that game
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 28, 2007, 09:24:28 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 28, 2007, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: zonescantstopme on January 28, 2007, 11:48:17 AM
Mike Hoyt scored 59 against Farmingdale anyone see that game
I didn't see that game, but I'd be interested in hearing some kind of scouting report on Hoyt because I've never seen him play. The numbers that he's putting up are incredible. Hopefully, I'll get to see him play Tuesday night at Yeshiva.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 28, 2007, 10:50:26 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 28, 2007, 10:50:26 PM
i ve played against him the last two years, and honestly he is impossible to guard if you lay off he shoots the three and if you push up he goes by you. He has amazing body control and strength in the air and the ability to draw contact.
on top of all that he knows the game and his team and coaches put him in the position to use all of his talents
on top of all that he knows the game and his team and coaches put him in the position to use all of his talents
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CCsalive on January 28, 2007, 11:00:20 PM
Post by: CCsalive on January 28, 2007, 11:00:20 PM
Greetings from the NESCAC room...I've gotta see this Hoyt kid play. I watched Farmingdale demolish Maritime earlier this year and I'm shocked to see them with 3 conference losses let alone one guy getting 59.
...on the Maritime note, at that Farmingdale game Maritime head coach Tom Spina spent the entire second half with his son on his lap, even at one point bending over to tie his kids shoes in the middle of the game. Professionalism aside, he was the worst collegiate coach I have ever seen. That said, he will be remembered for his lack of character. He was a joke.
...on the Maritime note, at that Farmingdale game Maritime head coach Tom Spina spent the entire second half with his son on his lap, even at one point bending over to tie his kids shoes in the middle of the game. Professionalism aside, he was the worst collegiate coach I have ever seen. That said, he will be remembered for his lack of character. He was a joke.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 28, 2007, 11:19:06 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 28, 2007, 11:19:06 PM
Quote from: zonescantstopme on January 28, 2007, 10:50:26 PM
i ve played against him the last two years, and honestly he is impossible to guard if you lay off he shoots the three and if you push up he goes by you. He has amazing body control and strength in the air and the ability to draw contact.
on top of all that he knows the game and his team and coaches put him in the position to use all of his talents
Thanks for the input. It's especially nice to hear an opposing player's perspective on Hoyt. Like I said, I've never seen him play, but he has to have a variety of weapons in order to score as many points as he has been scoring.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on January 30, 2007, 10:11:54 PM
Post by: sixfour on January 30, 2007, 10:11:54 PM
also good to see my team The Macs over at Yeshive playing good ball, .500 in the skyline is a decent record this season, and moving into the tourney they are a team noone seems to be talking about which is dangerous.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2007, 12:49:56 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2007, 12:49:56 AM
Yeshiva 68, Mount St. Mary 57
Yeshiva led all the way in this one, and while the outcome was never really in doubt, the Maccabees were unable to break it open. The Macs led 30-24 at the break, opened up double-digit leads several times in the second half and withstood a mild comeback by Mount St. Mary down the stretch to pick up the victory.
The Macs have more size, talent and depth than the Blue Knights. Yeshiva is well-coached, disciplined and fundamentally sound. They move the ball around well and get a lot of back-door baskets. Shuki Merlis is a pretty good center and Harel Vatavu is a solid forward.
Mount St. Mary is pretty much a one-man show by the name of Mike Hoyt. The 5-9 shooting guard is currently the second leading scorer in the nation. He scored either 39 or 41 points tonight (I don't know if he got credit for a tip-in basket in the second half) and he's well worth checking out. He can hit an NBA three, hit a pull-up jumper, or take it all the way to the hoop. He is strong and can convert the shot after drawing the foul. He can also pass if need be, although that might not be his first instinct.
Yeshiva led all the way in this one, and while the outcome was never really in doubt, the Maccabees were unable to break it open. The Macs led 30-24 at the break, opened up double-digit leads several times in the second half and withstood a mild comeback by Mount St. Mary down the stretch to pick up the victory.
The Macs have more size, talent and depth than the Blue Knights. Yeshiva is well-coached, disciplined and fundamentally sound. They move the ball around well and get a lot of back-door baskets. Shuki Merlis is a pretty good center and Harel Vatavu is a solid forward.
Mount St. Mary is pretty much a one-man show by the name of Mike Hoyt. The 5-9 shooting guard is currently the second leading scorer in the nation. He scored either 39 or 41 points tonight (I don't know if he got credit for a tip-in basket in the second half) and he's well worth checking out. He can hit an NBA three, hit a pull-up jumper, or take it all the way to the hoop. He is strong and can convert the shot after drawing the foul. He can also pass if need be, although that might not be his first instinct.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2007, 12:27:47 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2007, 12:27:47 AM
Here's how the Skyline Conference fared against the two other Atlantic region conferences this year:
Skyline vs.
CUNYAC....17-10*
NJAC....3-5
*One game remaining: Hunter @ St. Joseph's, Long Island (2/12)
Skyline vs.
CUNYAC....17-10*
NJAC....3-5
*One game remaining: Hunter @ St. Joseph's, Long Island (2/12)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2007, 01:08:21 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2007, 01:08:21 PM
For those who are interested, Mike Hoyt is covered in the latest Around the Nation column, which can be accessed on the front page.
The amount of points that he's scoring is extremely impressive, but his percentage of the team's points is truly amazing. In each of the last three games, he's scored approximately 70% of Mount St. Mary's points!
The amount of points that he's scoring is extremely impressive, but his percentage of the team's points is truly amazing. In each of the last three games, he's scored approximately 70% of Mount St. Mary's points!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Lefty on February 20, 2007, 10:17:03 PM
Post by: Lefty on February 20, 2007, 10:17:03 PM
Stevens Tech 87, Yeshiva 51
Skyline Quarterfinal Game
Stevens Tech opened this game on fire from the outside. Yeshiva tried to play a zone in the first half and got burnt. Stevens Tech shot 9 for 15 from 3 point range in the first half mainly because they were wide open. Stevens Tech had five guys in double figures led by Virgil Gray's 19 points. George Greco impressed me from the outside shooting 4 for 6 from 3 point range and finished the game with 18 points. Stevens really didn't show much of an inside game....not that they had to. I am not sure if they don't have a good inside game or they just didn't want to go at Yeshiva's big guys.
Yeshiva didn't impress me at all. 6' 8" Shuki Merlis is a big guy with not many moves. Merlis was ok on the defensive end but unimpressive on the offensive end. He scored most of his 11 points because he was just bigger in height and body size. If any team wanted to push the ball against Yeshiva I think there big men would be in big trouble.
Overall Stevens was average at best. My opinion is if they get into the NCAA's they are probably a one and done.
Skyline Quarterfinal Game
Stevens Tech opened this game on fire from the outside. Yeshiva tried to play a zone in the first half and got burnt. Stevens Tech shot 9 for 15 from 3 point range in the first half mainly because they were wide open. Stevens Tech had five guys in double figures led by Virgil Gray's 19 points. George Greco impressed me from the outside shooting 4 for 6 from 3 point range and finished the game with 18 points. Stevens really didn't show much of an inside game....not that they had to. I am not sure if they don't have a good inside game or they just didn't want to go at Yeshiva's big guys.
Yeshiva didn't impress me at all. 6' 8" Shuki Merlis is a big guy with not many moves. Merlis was ok on the defensive end but unimpressive on the offensive end. He scored most of his 11 points because he was just bigger in height and body size. If any team wanted to push the ball against Yeshiva I think there big men would be in big trouble.
Overall Stevens was average at best. My opinion is if they get into the NCAA's they are probably a one and done.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CCsalive on February 23, 2007, 11:52:55 AM
Post by: CCsalive on February 23, 2007, 11:52:55 AM
I was at the Manhattanville game last night...what an environment, the place was rocking with air horns and all. Mville pressed the whole game and wore down Farmingdale with hustle plays, three-pt shooting and Offensive rebounding.
Damien Santana was the lone threat for Farm as Mville pressured the hell out of Farm's guards and made the post entry very difficult.
Bummed to see Stevens lose. They're deserving of an at-large, and good enough to win a tourney game, but Conference strength could doom them.
Damien Santana was the lone threat for Farm as Mville pressured the hell out of Farm's guards and made the post entry very difficult.
Bummed to see Stevens lose. They're deserving of an at-large, and good enough to win a tourney game, but Conference strength could doom them.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: D3Cast on February 24, 2007, 08:13:05 AM
Post by: D3Cast on February 24, 2007, 08:13:05 AM
Nice drop-in by one "P. Coleman" on the DuckCast webcast(s) on Thursday night. (I know he was on the Stevens women's game -- didn't watch all the men's, but saw the fantastic finish!)
He's everywhere, I tell you. Everywhere.
-steve
He's everywhere, I tell you. Everywhere.
-steve
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 25, 2007, 12:26:24 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 25, 2007, 12:26:24 PM
It was a busy three days -- Thursday at Stevens, Friday at Alvernia and Saturday at Albright.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sludge on February 28, 2007, 09:35:57 PM
Post by: sludge on February 28, 2007, 09:35:57 PM
Greetings from the Old Dominion (ODAC) conference. Sounds like Manhattanville is a guard-threat team that likes to press and raise mayhem. Have I got that right? Any scoop you could provide is welcome; I'm a fan, not a coach!
I look forward to seeing them play in Baltimore on Friday.
I look forward to seeing them play in Baltimore on Friday.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 02, 2007, 12:26:28 AM
Post by: diehardfan on March 02, 2007, 12:26:28 AM
Hey guys, we're collecting previews for each team in the tourney on one of the multiregional boards. If I get them by Friday I may even be able to stick them in one document for people to peruse. A fun little tourney resource of sorts. Would someone here be willing to do one for Stevens and Manhattanville? Thanks much!
http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5147.0
http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5147.0
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 06, 2007, 12:37:08 AM
Post by: diehardfan on March 06, 2007, 12:37:08 AM
Alright, well, just in case anyone sees this...
Hey guys, I just thought I'd pop in to let you know about a little project we did. A group of around 40 posters banded together and created a Unofficial Guide to the 2006-2007 NCAA Tourney, that contains a team-by-team breakdown of the teams in the tournament. This is especially cool given the fact that the official NCAA guide gives you very little insight into the teams, and nearly all of the previews in the Unofficial Guide were made by fans of the team.
The website is: http://wheatonhoops.googlepages.com/ncaatourney and on that website you can find browsable information, as well as a 19 page printable PDF document. This was updated as of this morning.
While I doubt that we'll ever get any posters to submit information for the 11 teams that did not submit previews, it does include previews from 48 of the 59 teams in the tournament, and all of the teams in the Sweet Sixteen. I hope you check it out and enjoy the content!
If there are any corrections or content additions you would like to me, please submit them to me by PM. Thanks!
Hey guys, I just thought I'd pop in to let you know about a little project we did. A group of around 40 posters banded together and created a Unofficial Guide to the 2006-2007 NCAA Tourney, that contains a team-by-team breakdown of the teams in the tournament. This is especially cool given the fact that the official NCAA guide gives you very little insight into the teams, and nearly all of the previews in the Unofficial Guide were made by fans of the team.
The website is: http://wheatonhoops.googlepages.com/ncaatourney and on that website you can find browsable information, as well as a 19 page printable PDF document. This was updated as of this morning.
While I doubt that we'll ever get any posters to submit information for the 11 teams that did not submit previews, it does include previews from 48 of the 59 teams in the tournament, and all of the teams in the Sweet Sixteen. I hope you check it out and enjoy the content!
If there are any corrections or content additions you would like to me, please submit them to me by PM. Thanks!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on March 07, 2007, 09:40:28 PM
Post by: njlincolnlion on March 07, 2007, 09:40:28 PM
An Amherst Sectional was created in the Multi Topics section for discussions on this weekends sweet sixteen games.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on March 18, 2007, 12:54:30 PM
Post by: sixfour on March 18, 2007, 12:54:30 PM
ok so the season is over.....in terms of the skyline i know next year is one of change...what is the landscape of the league next year, who are the teams listed as skyline next year?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on March 21, 2007, 05:15:16 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on March 21, 2007, 05:15:16 PM
I can tell you who the champion will be: Bard College. I hear there are some other squads battling for second place.
One of them has a new coach, too!
http://www.poly.edu/athletics/sport.php?sport=2&term=6&ctrlPanel=1&teamType=m
One of them has a new coach, too!
http://www.poly.edu/athletics/sport.php?sport=2&term=6&ctrlPanel=1&teamType=m
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on March 28, 2007, 12:10:34 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on March 28, 2007, 12:10:34 PM
Tracy King talks about Bard's imminent dominance in an exclusive Raptormania! interview.
http://www.raptormania.com/Tracykingint.html
http://www.raptormania.com/Tracykingint.html
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bballfan44 on May 02, 2007, 01:31:45 PM
Post by: bballfan44 on May 02, 2007, 01:31:45 PM
How does Bard think it will do well in the skyline confrence when it couldn't even win in the NEAC. They finished 2-14 in league play. And the year before that Bard was also 2-14 in the league, and thats when they had the mighty Adam Turner. I thought Woldense was alot better player then Turner was. But good luck next year, and I am happy for the Skyline because they pick up an easy win next year with Bard on there schedule.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 03, 2007, 01:56:43 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 03, 2007, 01:56:43 PM
"How does Bard think it will do well in the skyline confrence when it couldn't even win in the NEAC. They finished 2-14 in league play. And the year before that Bard was also 2-14 in the league, and thats when they had the mighty Adam Turner. I thought Woldense was alot better player then Turner was. But good luck next year, and I am happy for the Skyline because they pick up an easy win next year with Bard on there schedule."
I am cautiously optimistic that you are an outlier, and that whichever school you are representing with this post is filled with people who can differentiate between "there" and "their", and know that you punctuate questions with a question mark, rather than a period. Clearly, you have "alot" to learn.
Once you master these basics, I am confident that you will begin to understand the rudimentary basketball knowledge needed to see Bard's forthcoming dominance of the Skyline Conference.
I am cautiously optimistic that you are an outlier, and that whichever school you are representing with this post is filled with people who can differentiate between "there" and "their", and know that you punctuate questions with a question mark, rather than a period. Clearly, you have "alot" to learn.
Once you master these basics, I am confident that you will begin to understand the rudimentary basketball knowledge needed to see Bard's forthcoming dominance of the Skyline Conference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bballfan44 on May 05, 2007, 10:35:20 AM
Post by: bballfan44 on May 05, 2007, 10:35:20 AM
Opps I am sorry I didn't know that I had to be perfect on this website. I do know that Bard is far from perfect when it comes to basketball. I do think they have some good guards. Washington is very quick, and can take almost take anyone to the hole. But they don't have any size and really can't defend anyone. They are going to need some really good recurits this year if they want to do anything.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 06, 2007, 01:26:12 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 06, 2007, 01:26:12 PM
I accept your apology. Admitting your ignorance about Bard's imminent dominance of the Skyline is the first step towards recovery.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bballfan44 on May 07, 2007, 12:29:01 PM
Post by: bballfan44 on May 07, 2007, 12:29:01 PM
Sorry Raptormania I don't think they will be dominate in the skyline right away. Wood has alot of work to do and has to bring in some talented players to win because the guys they have now will not get the job done.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 07, 2007, 01:04:32 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 07, 2007, 01:04:32 PM
The Raptors bring virtually everyone back, and are adding several key parts. I can appreciate that as someone who doesn't grasp the finer points of basketball, you are not able to see the coming storm that is Bard's crushing of the Skyline Conference. But just know that the Raptor bandwagon will always have room for you. We'll swing low, sweet chariot, and come forth to carry you home, like a low-swinging, sweet chariot.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: atn alum on May 08, 2007, 01:30:26 PM
Post by: atn alum on May 08, 2007, 01:30:26 PM
Raptormania
I know summer hasn't even begun yet, but I've started working on my preseason Top 25...weighing the merits of voting Bard No. 1 rather than Amherst. Can you assist me in analyzing that matchup?
I know summer hasn't even begun yet, but I've started working on my preseason Top 25...weighing the merits of voting Bard No. 1 rather than Amherst. Can you assist me in analyzing that matchup?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 08, 2007, 09:24:42 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 08, 2007, 09:24:42 PM
atnwriter - great question! It's actually simpler than it might appear at first glance. I like to evaluate by common opponents. This season's Amherst team lost to both Trinity and Williams. As I'm sure you are aware, neither of these clubs have ever managed to defeat Bard, and the Raptors are adding a solid recruiting class.
I'd put Amherst in my top five, but Bard looks to be so good that my top ten will not include another top-six team.
As of right now:
1. Bard
7. Amherst
I'd put Amherst in my top five, but Bard looks to be so good that my top ten will not include another top-six team.
As of right now:
1. Bard
7. Amherst
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: WNYHoops on May 09, 2007, 09:56:36 AM
Post by: WNYHoops on May 09, 2007, 09:56:36 AM
I would have to think Bard, with their dominant inside play, would be a tough match-up for anyone. Raptormania, it is now a safe bet to book your flight to Salem for the Final 4. As a fan of the NEAC located in Western New York, I can say the teams in your former league are all breathing a sigh of relief to know the Raptors are no longer a threat to break out. With their 4 conference wins the past two years, it was only a matter of time before they began to dominate. The Skyline has no idea what they are in for.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: atn alum on May 09, 2007, 12:00:02 PM
Post by: atn alum on May 09, 2007, 12:00:02 PM
Last provoking question here (it's May and I'm bored)
who would win this matchup?
Bard's starting 5
vs
Ditka?
who would win this matchup?
Bard's starting 5
vs
Ditka?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 09, 2007, 03:04:03 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 09, 2007, 03:04:03 PM
"The Skyline has no idea what they are in for."
See interview with Skyline Commissioner Tracy King- clearly, the conference is both happy and frightened to have Bard.
"Bard's starting 5
vs
Ditka?"
This is a ludicrous question. Coach Wood won't name his starters until November.
See interview with Skyline Commissioner Tracy King- clearly, the conference is both happy and frightened to have Bard.
"Bard's starting 5
vs
Ditka?"
This is a ludicrous question. Coach Wood won't name his starters until November.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 09, 2007, 05:32:45 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 09, 2007, 05:32:45 PM
Ditka's gonna have a hard time inbounding the ball alone. :)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 10, 2007, 03:18:22 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 10, 2007, 03:18:22 PM
Presumably they'll play a zone.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: diehardfan on May 10, 2007, 03:46:18 PM
Post by: diehardfan on May 10, 2007, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 09, 2007, 05:32:45 PMHow about Ditka and Raptormania! vs The Bard Starting 5 as an alternative?
Ditka's gonna have a hard time inbounding the ball alone. :)
Hmmmmmm, this could get interesting. ;D
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on May 10, 2007, 09:37:07 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on May 10, 2007, 09:37:07 PM
Ditka don't need nobody else on his team. Ditka's so quick he can inbound to himself.
Ditka 168
The rest of you'se 25, Ditka is getting a little old, might give up a few.
Ditka 168
The rest of you'se 25, Ditka is getting a little old, might give up a few.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bballfan44 on May 17, 2007, 09:01:59 AM
Post by: bballfan44 on May 17, 2007, 09:01:59 AM
Come on, their is no way Ditka would play a team as bad as bard.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 17, 2007, 09:44:56 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 17, 2007, 09:44:56 AM
It's funny, Raptor fans need to get used to putting up with this kind of hostility. It is the price one pays for success. And what lesser team do you root for, bball44? I'd like to pull for them. Because when we do things like tear down great programs (ie. Bard) with our words, nobody wins.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2007, 12:03:36 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2007, 12:03:36 PM
Quote from: Raptormania! on May 17, 2007, 09:44:56 AM
It's funny, Raptor fans need to get used to putting up with this kind of hostility.
Dunno why -- it seems pretty consistent over the years. :)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 17, 2007, 01:59:49 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 17, 2007, 01:59:49 PM
So true, Pat. Did you know there were people who didn't even think Bard would get into the Skyline?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2007, 03:58:01 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2007, 03:58:01 PM
I can't say I spent a lot of time caring about other peoples' opinions on this matter. :)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 17, 2007, 07:13:30 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 17, 2007, 07:13:30 PM
Right on, Pat- those were some pretty silly people.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on May 17, 2007, 09:16:39 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on May 17, 2007, 09:16:39 PM
How is poly looking this year? New coach with a proven track record for recruiting...wonder if he can turn em around .... now is the time in the skyline shakeup I dont see any monster favorites out there...any thoughts?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 18, 2007, 10:02:06 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 18, 2007, 10:02:06 AM
They have a terrific gym and playing atmosphere... I'll hopefully be interviewing him this summer, I'll let you guys know when I do. I'm glad Poly is in the Skyline.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: atn alum on May 21, 2007, 10:26:45 AM
Post by: atn alum on May 21, 2007, 10:26:45 AM
Raptormania...
Any truth to the rumor that Jeff Van Gundy is out as coach of the Rockets because it was clear he'd be signing on as a "consultant" with Bard?
:D
Any truth to the rumor that Jeff Van Gundy is out as coach of the Rockets because it was clear he'd be signing on as a "consultant" with Bard?
:D
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bballfan44 on May 21, 2007, 11:09:59 AM
Post by: bballfan44 on May 21, 2007, 11:09:59 AM
I heard that rumor was true, so congrats to Bard.
I am surprised Bard didn' lock up Cronin from Henninger. I can't believe you let him slip by and let him go to Michigan. He would have fit in with your program.
I am surprised Bard didn' lock up Cronin from Henninger. I can't believe you let him slip by and let him go to Michigan. He would have fit in with your program.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 21, 2007, 01:42:35 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 21, 2007, 01:42:35 PM
Sorry fellas... when you have the best on board in Chris Wood, retreads aren't needed. But it doesn't surprise me that people like Van Gundy are floating a rumor of Bard's interest in order to associate themselves with a top program.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on July 02, 2007, 01:10:32 PM
Post by: sixfour on July 02, 2007, 01:10:32 PM
anyone know what is going on in Brooklyn over at Poly? i hear rumblings from my little birdies saying they have a new coach and the skyline will be surprised next year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: hopefan on July 02, 2007, 01:50:48 PM
Post by: hopefan on July 02, 2007, 01:50:48 PM
is Poly the old Brooklyn Poly from my playing days in the 60s? I remember running up the steps to the top of a building - the roof was a plastic bubble - no seating except for a bench for each team - floor was small - attendance was "0"
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on July 02, 2007, 06:00:49 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on July 02, 2007, 06:00:49 PM
Quote from: hopefan on July 02, 2007, 01:50:48 PMYes, Polytechnic and Brooklyn Poly are one and the same. Polytechnic is located on the same block as New York City Tech in downtown Brooklyn. The Bluejays have a new gym, which I believe is only a couple of years old. Polytechnic should not be confused with Poly Prep, which is also located in Brooklyn.
is Poly the old Brooklyn Poly from my playing days in the 60s? I remember running up the steps to the top of a building - the roof was a plastic bubble - no seating except for a bench for each team - floor was small - attendance was "0"
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on July 09, 2007, 09:47:29 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on July 09, 2007, 09:47:29 AM
Poly has a new coach with extensive NY high school ties, and a beautiful arena to attract players. They should be a worthy adversary in the Skyline.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on July 12, 2007, 06:17:35 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on July 12, 2007, 06:17:35 PM
Quote from: sixfour on March 18, 2007, 12:54:30 PM
ok so the season is over.....in terms of the skyline i know next year is one of change...what is the landscape of the league next year, who are the teams listed as skyline next year?
this would be helpful to me as well. noone has answered this post.
By the way, from what ive heard the Poly coach like Raptormania said has been hitting the recruiting trail hard. I am somewhat familiar with him as a coach, and as long as he sticks around (which would be the only issue) he will have them looking REALLY competitive and sneaking up on some people.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: hopefan on July 13, 2007, 01:46:02 PM
Post by: hopefan on July 13, 2007, 01:46:02 PM
Apparently, after looking at schedules from Suny Farmingdale and Bard:
SUNY Farmingdale, Suny Maritime, Suny Old Westbury, Yeshiva, St Joseph's LI, Mt St Vincent, and Mt St Mary remain in the Skyline
Purchase, Polytechnic and Bard join the Skyline
That's 10 teams, or 18 league games if each team plays all 9 opponents twice. Suny Farmindale's schedule shows an 18 league game season, but Bard's schedule shows only 17 league games (Mt St Mary only on the schedule one time, but they are schedule in the Hudson Valley Shootout tourney, which is probably the second league game
Centenary went to the Pennsylvania AC
King's Point went to the Landmark
Stevens went to the Empire 8
Manhattanville went to the MAC Freedom
SUNY Farmingdale, Suny Maritime, Suny Old Westbury, Yeshiva, St Joseph's LI, Mt St Vincent, and Mt St Mary remain in the Skyline
Purchase, Polytechnic and Bard join the Skyline
That's 10 teams, or 18 league games if each team plays all 9 opponents twice. Suny Farmindale's schedule shows an 18 league game season, but Bard's schedule shows only 17 league games (Mt St Mary only on the schedule one time, but they are schedule in the Hudson Valley Shootout tourney, which is probably the second league game
Centenary went to the Pennsylvania AC
King's Point went to the Landmark
Stevens went to the Empire 8
Manhattanville went to the MAC Freedom
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on July 13, 2007, 01:49:10 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on July 13, 2007, 01:49:10 PM
I propose that from this point forward the Landmark Conference should be referred to as the Landshark conference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2007, 02:13:53 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2007, 02:13:53 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on July 13, 2007, 01:49:10 PM
I propose that from this point forward the Landmark Conference should be referred to as the Landshark conference.
I think there's another conference or two that has acted more like that than the LC has. Check the mad scramble after the Landmark's formation.
Hopefan, et al, here's some more on the changes:
http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/category/mid-atlantic-shuffle/
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on July 13, 2007, 02:19:19 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on July 13, 2007, 02:19:19 PM
My suggestion has nothing to do with that, just an old SNL reference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on July 13, 2007, 02:40:31 PM
Post by: sixfour on July 13, 2007, 02:40:31 PM
i'll be the first to throw my worthless preseason seedings out there haha ;D
old westbury
farmingdale
st joseph's
yeshiva
polytechnic
maritime or mt st mary
bard
purchase
cmsv
old westbury
farmingdale
st joseph's
yeshiva
polytechnic
maritime or mt st mary
bard
purchase
cmsv
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on August 02, 2007, 03:53:38 PM
Post by: sixfour on August 02, 2007, 03:53:38 PM
???hellllllooooooo ??? :-\where is everyone....lets get some posting in here.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on August 08, 2007, 03:58:08 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on August 08, 2007, 03:58:08 PM
Well, the Bard Raptors have been undefeated for five consecutive months- but you know I'm not the type to brag.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 01, 2007, 01:34:37 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 01, 2007, 01:34:37 PM
I see Bard on top, with no one else finishing higher than fourth. However, further scouting may revise that- it may well be that Bard finishes first, with no one else higher than sixth. I'll finalize my rankings prior to the start of the season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: gordonmann on November 06, 2007, 03:20:06 PM
Post by: gordonmann on November 06, 2007, 03:20:06 PM
Raptormania:
Good to have you on the boards again. I enjoyed your Mets stuff this season.
Good to have you on the boards again. I enjoyed your Mets stuff this season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 08, 2007, 12:45:56 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 08, 2007, 12:45:56 PM
Thanks! But what are the Mets, really, if not a prelude to Bard basketball season? Wasn't 1969 merely an echo of the shock-the-world Raptor surge to the 2007 Skyline Conference Title?
I daresay that this is the year Bard finds victory, and the longstanding anti-Bard media bias comes to an end. ESPN would be a nice place for it to start- perhaps a trickle-down effect will follow if the Worldwide Leader comes through.
I daresay that this is the year Bard finds victory, and the longstanding anti-Bard media bias comes to an end. ESPN would be a nice place for it to start- perhaps a trickle-down effect will follow if the Worldwide Leader comes through.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: jmurphyslaw on November 13, 2007, 11:39:58 AM
Post by: jmurphyslaw on November 13, 2007, 11:39:58 AM
I was wondering if anyone knew if Sage had any plans to start men's basketball? I think Russell Sage is in the Skyline for women's hoop and was curious if Sage would follow Regis and Wells and start men's basketball...Other than that, I would be curious on how the Skyline looks after all the moving around? Who is the team to beat?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2007, 01:50:54 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2007, 01:50:54 PM
My understanding is that Russell Sage is all women- making a men's team somewhat unlikely. Has this changed? Sage College of Albany is coed, but isn't it a separate entity?
As far as the team to beat, we both know the title discussion starts and ends in Annandale-on Hudson, NY.
As far as the team to beat, we both know the title discussion starts and ends in Annandale-on Hudson, NY.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on November 13, 2007, 01:55:03 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on November 13, 2007, 01:55:03 PM
Quote from: jmurphyslaw on November 13, 2007, 11:39:58 AM
I was wondering if anyone knew if Sage had any plans to start men's basketball? I think Russell Sage is in the Skyline for women's hoop and was curious if Sage would follow Regis and Wells and start men's basketball...Other than that, I would be curious on how the Skyline looks after all the moving around? Who is the team to beat?
Who is in the conference this season? Wait did another team just leave?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 16, 2007, 05:27:15 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 16, 2007, 05:27:15 PM
The Worldwide Leader touts Bard's triumphant return to the hardwood.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=megdal/071116
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=megdal/071116
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on November 16, 2007, 10:08:52 PM
Post by: wooscotsfan on November 16, 2007, 10:08:52 PM
Final: #8 Wooster 106 Farmingdale State 81
Wooster was led by All-American James Cooper with 19 points, Marty Bidwell with 19 points, Brandon Johnson with 18 points, freshman Bryan Wicklliffe with 11 points, Devin Fulk with 10 points and Evan Will also with 10 points.
Farmingdale State Rams were led by Damien Santana with 23 points and Erastus Shannon with 10 points.
Wooster shot 50% from the floor tonight, made 14 three pointers and outrebounded Farmingdale 49 to 29.
Wooster will face St. Thomas (MN) tomorrow night in the Championship game of the Al Van Wie Tourney
Farmingdale will face Otterbein (OH) in the consolation game.
Wooster was led by All-American James Cooper with 19 points, Marty Bidwell with 19 points, Brandon Johnson with 18 points, freshman Bryan Wicklliffe with 11 points, Devin Fulk with 10 points and Evan Will also with 10 points.
Farmingdale State Rams were led by Damien Santana with 23 points and Erastus Shannon with 10 points.
Wooster shot 50% from the floor tonight, made 14 three pointers and outrebounded Farmingdale 49 to 29.
Wooster will face St. Thomas (MN) tomorrow night in the Championship game of the Al Van Wie Tourney
Farmingdale will face Otterbein (OH) in the consolation game.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on November 17, 2007, 09:57:48 PM
Post by: wooscotsfan on November 17, 2007, 09:57:48 PM
Final: Farmingdale State 98 Otterbein (OH) 94
Damien Santana had an incredible game as he led the Rams with 37 points (he made 7 of 11 three pointers). Santana set a tourney record for most points in a game as the Rams won the consolation game of the Wooster Tourney.
Other double figure scorers for Farmingdale were Erastus Shannon with 14 points, Shane Denully with 13 points and Brian Robinson with 10 points.
Farmingdale shot 60% from the floor and 53% on three pointers (10 of 19) to get the victory over Otterbein.
Good luck to the Rams the rest of this season!
Damien Santana had an incredible game as he led the Rams with 37 points (he made 7 of 11 three pointers). Santana set a tourney record for most points in a game as the Rams won the consolation game of the Wooster Tourney.
Other double figure scorers for Farmingdale were Erastus Shannon with 14 points, Shane Denully with 13 points and Brian Robinson with 10 points.
Farmingdale shot 60% from the floor and 53% on three pointers (10 of 19) to get the victory over Otterbein.
Good luck to the Rams the rest of this season!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 19, 2007, 12:17:37 AM
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 19, 2007, 12:17:37 AM
Raptormania (Howard)....nice article on ESPN Page 2, I enjoyed it, the situation at Bard you describe of a few years ago sounds like the beginning scenes of a lousy sports movie.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 19, 2007, 11:23:31 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 19, 2007, 11:23:31 AM
Thanks. And trust me, it will be the greatest story ever told. Of the world was created in just six days, imagine what Bard basketball will be like for Coach Wood in his sixth year!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 21, 2007, 03:17:05 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 21, 2007, 03:17:05 AM
Big win for Bard - 27 points from Justin White, Raptors clobber Green Mountain, 100-81. Ray Arocho added 20, Demitrius Washington 19.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on November 21, 2007, 11:51:29 AM
Post by: sixfour on November 21, 2007, 11:51:29 AM
Had a chance to see Mt St Vincent vs. Cenetenary last night.
CMSV held on for an exciting win in a game they led throughout by double figures until the last 5 minutes. Centenary mounted a nice comeback and has a decent little team. They are poorly coached and don't seem to do much offensively other than create one on one.
Murphy has done a nice job putting together a decent team at CMSV, however they lack depth in the frontcourt. They have several guards and "tweeners" who can get the job done, but Chris Rocco, a dependable PF is the lone "big" and I think that lack of frontcourt depth will be their downfall as the Skyline season progresses. Definitely moving CMSV's program back in the right direction though, back to the days when they were powerful in that conference.
CMSV held on for an exciting win in a game they led throughout by double figures until the last 5 minutes. Centenary mounted a nice comeback and has a decent little team. They are poorly coached and don't seem to do much offensively other than create one on one.
Murphy has done a nice job putting together a decent team at CMSV, however they lack depth in the frontcourt. They have several guards and "tweeners" who can get the job done, but Chris Rocco, a dependable PF is the lone "big" and I think that lack of frontcourt depth will be their downfall as the Skyline season progresses. Definitely moving CMSV's program back in the right direction though, back to the days when they were powerful in that conference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 09, 2007, 11:51:39 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 09, 2007, 11:51:39 PM
Bard completes a sweep of their tournament, upending Rivier College 71-70 in the championship game.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 10, 2007, 08:32:32 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 10, 2007, 08:32:32 PM
Without wanting to embarrass anyone by naming them, OxyBob, the players I am referring to date back to before the start of the season. I hope this clears things up for you.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 11, 2007, 12:32:55 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 11, 2007, 12:32:55 PM
It's a shame you feel the need to demonize the Bard team, and young men you don't even know exist. I'm going to focus on the recent Bard Raptors tournament victory, in which Bard defeated a Rivier team that made the NCAA Tournament last year.
I think CalTech plays the game the right way, and I wish them luck in the future. so far, Bard is 3-6 this year, and could easily be 5-4 (missed two shots that would have won games in regulation, only to lose in OT).
I think CalTech plays the game the right way, and I wish them luck in the future. so far, Bard is 3-6 this year, and could easily be 5-4 (missed two shots that would have won games in regulation, only to lose in OT).
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 11, 2007, 02:52:39 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 11, 2007, 02:52:39 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing the film. Like I said- I'm happy for CalTech- they play the game the right way. I wish them well.
They seem to be a long way from another victory, losing by 16, 29, 36 and 42. Bard, meanwhile, has three wins, including one over a 06-07 NCAA tournament team, along with two more losses in OT.
Seems pretty clear which program is progressing.
They seem to be a long way from another victory, losing by 16, 29, 36 and 42. Bard, meanwhile, has three wins, including one over a 06-07 NCAA tournament team, along with two more losses in OT.
Seems pretty clear which program is progressing.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 12, 2007, 11:49:56 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 12, 2007, 11:49:56 AM
Stay classy, OxyBob. Always good to see someone take shots at undergraduates at a top school working to balance academics and athletics.
Big test for Bard this weekend against Skyline leader St. Joe's- 4-0 in conference.
Big test for Bard this weekend against Skyline leader St. Joe's- 4-0 in conference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on December 12, 2007, 01:32:50 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on December 12, 2007, 01:32:50 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on December 12, 2007, 01:12:13 PMQuote from: Raptormania! on December 12, 2007, 11:49:56 AM
Stay classy, OxyBob. Always good to see someone take shots at undergraduates at a top school working to balance academics and athletics.
Hmm, now how did I ever become aware that Bard had basketball players who were academically ineligible? Oh, yeah, *you* wrote about it in an article which appeared on Page 2 on ESPN.com, an article which *you* touted here. How appropriate that you attended Bard, alma mater of Donald Fagen and Walter Becker. While at Bard did you take a philosophy course called Pretzel Logic?
OxyBob
Leave Skunk and Don out of this, they are never going back to their old school.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 12, 2007, 01:38:03 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 12, 2007, 01:38:03 PM
To reiterate, OxyBob, I mentioned this in general. You were the one trying to identify which players in specific the article referenced. I assume you can see the difference.
Regardless, I think we can agree on the following.
1. Good for Cal Tach, getting a win!
2. Bard is showing some serious improvement this season.
Regardless, I think we can agree on the following.
1. Good for Cal Tach, getting a win!
2. Bard is showing some serious improvement this season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 18, 2007, 07:54:10 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 18, 2007, 07:54:10 PM
Congrats to Cal Tech!
What will become of the social order if the smart kids start winning at athletics, too???
What will become of the social order if the smart kids start winning at athletics, too???
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2007, 02:59:36 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 19, 2007, 02:59:36 PM
Quote from: Raptormania! on December 18, 2007, 07:54:10 PM
Congrats to Cal Tech!
What will become of the social order if the smart kids start winning at athletics, too???
These aren't just smart kids, they're exceptionally bright kids. And exceptionally bright kids tend not to be the greatest athletes. Unless Cal Tech seriously compromises their academic integrity, I would expect long losing, rather than long winning streaks to be the norm.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 10:28:12 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 10:28:12 AM
Yes, this would explain the irrevocable compromising in academic standards by that noted athlete factory and 2003 champ Williams College (average SAT score range 1320-1520) or 2006 Final Four qualifier and ground zero of dumb-jockdom Amherst College (average SAT range 1330-1530).
You can't seriously expect me to accept that Cal Tech, Williams, or any other school will do poorly in athletics because they have exceptionally bright kids. The academics complicate a task, no question, since by definition the pool you are choosing from is smaller. But we have ample evidence that it can be done without compromising academic integrity.
You can't seriously expect me to accept that Cal Tech, Williams, or any other school will do poorly in athletics because they have exceptionally bright kids. The academics complicate a task, no question, since by definition the pool you are choosing from is smaller. But we have ample evidence that it can be done without compromising academic integrity.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2007, 11:55:40 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2007, 11:55:40 AM
Quote from: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 10:28:12 AM
Yes, this would explain the irrevocable compromising in academic standards by that noted athlete factory and 2003 champ Williams College (average SAT score range 1320-1520) or 2006 Final Four qualifier and ground zero of dumb-jockdom Amherst College (average SAT range 1330-1530).
You can't seriously expect me to accept that Cal Tech, Williams, or any other school will do poorly in athletics because they have exceptionally bright kids. The academics complicate a task, no question, since by definition the pool you are choosing from is smaller. But we have ample evidence that it can be done without compromising academic integrity.
I am under the impression--perhaps mistakenly--that the academic standards at Cal Tech are clearly higher than Williams and Amherst, and that the athletes must meet all of the academic requirements of the student body as a whole. If it's the case that the athletes at Cal Tech must have 1500+ SAT scores and there are no special admits then they're not going to be competitive any time soon.
Amherst and Williams both have solid athletic traditions. Cal Tech does not. Amherst and Williams are both liberal arts schools. Cal Tech is an engineering/science school. Amherst and Williams accept special admits. Cal Tech does not. Amherst and Williams are both excellent academic schools but they're still not as rigorously demanding as Cal Tech. These are some of the reasons why they have very good athletics programs and Cal Tech does not.
Students with 1500+ SAT scores tend to be less physically fit than the rest of the student body. They are not nearly as strong or well conditioned, and they have slower hand-eye coordination and reaction times. Plus they're less inclined to be into sports and, if they are, they have far less time to devote to sports than the student body as a whole.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 12:47:37 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 12:47:37 PM
"Students with 1500+ SAT scores tend to be less physically fit than the rest of the student body. They are not nearly as strong or well conditioned, and they have slower hand-eye coordination and reaction times. Plus they're less inclined to be into sports and, if they are, they have far less time to devote to sports than the student body as a whole."
Is this based upon any study, or just something you made up?
The obvious reason a high-academic school would have more trouble finding top athletes isn't because once you hit 1500 SAT, you can only helplessly complain while basketballs bounce off your head. It is that the pool of people with SAT scores that high is much smaller than a school which demands, say, 900 or higher. Julliard has the same problem- because their school is limited to exceptionally talented musicians, not because violinists are terrible at basketball.
I'd be curious if Cal Tech didn't try to add a wide variety of students, with athletic prowess counting for a student's app the way a talent in music, or other areas, also count. And the tradition for athletic excellence works for Williams and against Cal Tech- but obviously, has nothing to do with the quality of the school. Plenty of good, average, and poor schools with traditions of athletic excellence do well for that reason, while plenty of good, average and poor schools without said tradition struggle to create one.
Is this based upon any study, or just something you made up?
The obvious reason a high-academic school would have more trouble finding top athletes isn't because once you hit 1500 SAT, you can only helplessly complain while basketballs bounce off your head. It is that the pool of people with SAT scores that high is much smaller than a school which demands, say, 900 or higher. Julliard has the same problem- because their school is limited to exceptionally talented musicians, not because violinists are terrible at basketball.
I'd be curious if Cal Tech didn't try to add a wide variety of students, with athletic prowess counting for a student's app the way a talent in music, or other areas, also count. And the tradition for athletic excellence works for Williams and against Cal Tech- but obviously, has nothing to do with the quality of the school. Plenty of good, average, and poor schools with traditions of athletic excellence do well for that reason, while plenty of good, average and poor schools without said tradition struggle to create one.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2007, 01:10:59 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2007, 01:10:59 PM
The relationship between 1500+ SAT scores and athletic prowess was my own observation--it was not based upon any study. I'm sorry that you find such a statement to be outlandish or controversial. I find it to be obviously true.
And while it's true that the pool of 1500+ SAT students is far smaller than those with 900 SATs, it doesn't follow that the percentage of students within those two pools who are athletically talented is identical. I would imagine that a far higher percentage of students with 900 SATs would be more physically fit than those with 1500+ SATs.
And while it's true that the pool of 1500+ SAT students is far smaller than those with 900 SATs, it doesn't follow that the percentage of students within those two pools who are athletically talented is identical. I would imagine that a far higher percentage of students with 900 SATs would be more physically fit than those with 1500+ SATs.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 01:19:22 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 01:19:22 PM
Forgive me if I don't accept your word for it. Outlandish or controversial? Not so much. Empty of any meaning beyond one man's unsupported opinion? Yes.
Can you provide any logical reason for believing this to be so? Why would the percentage of athletic talent be higher at 900 than at 1500? It strikes me as likely that, absent any evidence to the contrary, the athletic talent at 900+ SAT and 1500 SAT would be exactly the same- but the 1500 SAT group of athletic talent would be better able to convert that talent into results on the basketball court, given the large mental component of the game. However, that edge is unlikely to overcome the enormous difference in the number of players available in the 900+ SAT pool.
That any negative relationship between intelligence and athletics exists because you "would imagine it to be so" is circular reasoning, at best.
Can you provide any logical reason for believing this to be so? Why would the percentage of athletic talent be higher at 900 than at 1500? It strikes me as likely that, absent any evidence to the contrary, the athletic talent at 900+ SAT and 1500 SAT would be exactly the same- but the 1500 SAT group of athletic talent would be better able to convert that talent into results on the basketball court, given the large mental component of the game. However, that edge is unlikely to overcome the enormous difference in the number of players available in the 900+ SAT pool.
That any negative relationship between intelligence and athletics exists because you "would imagine it to be so" is circular reasoning, at best.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2007, 02:48:32 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2007, 02:48:32 PM
First of all, there is no "large mental component" in basketball. Basketball is a relatively simple game. Second, the mental component of the game doesn't require 1500+ SATs or a genius IQ. It requires--at most--average intelligence, but probably less. Basketball is a game of quickness, strength, hand-eye coordination and mental toughness. It has nothing to do with abstract reasoning ability or strong language skills. Basketball is not organic chemistry or nuclear physics. Even a "thinking man's player" usually has only average or slightly higher intelligence.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 03:34:44 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 03:34:44 PM
We can argue over semantics- but we'll agree to disagree that there isn't a large mental component to basketball.
That said, we do agree that there is a far larger physical component to the game. So why exactly is it that someone intelligent isn't capable of excelling at that part as well? Is your argument that knowledge will get in the way of physical gifts? This is unclear-as is your ability to back this up in any way.
That said, we do agree that there is a far larger physical component to the game. So why exactly is it that someone intelligent isn't capable of excelling at that part as well? Is your argument that knowledge will get in the way of physical gifts? This is unclear-as is your ability to back this up in any way.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on December 20, 2007, 03:43:17 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on December 20, 2007, 03:43:17 PM
Howie, the majority of students who achieve a perfect or near perfect score on their SAT probably do not have the time to be both an exceptional athlete and and exceptional scholar. They most likely do not have the time to devote to both working out and studying. That being said there are some that are both, although I would venture to guess that one or the other came to the individual naturally. Also I would say that the majority of student athletes fall in between the extremes. Most are average students and average athletes usually leaning more to one side or the other.
MIT sports while better than Cal Techs are still not that great, same thing applies. I have a cousin that was an outstanding swimmer in high school. She was accepted at MIT, Stevens and NJIT, she chose MIT and had to let swimming go, she just did not have the time to dedicate to both.
Your Julliard example is not a good one. Most musicians that make it to Julliard had to give up sports in Jr or Sr high school. They did not have the time to dedicate to two masters. I did not play football at NJCU although several coaches and players repeatedly asked me too. I was a classical guitar major and could not possibly devote time to football, guitar, classes and still sleep an hour or two.
I don't think I could have pulled a load like Dana John is pulling. Plus I did not want to bust up my hands, and playing o-line would have done that.
MIT sports while better than Cal Techs are still not that great, same thing applies. I have a cousin that was an outstanding swimmer in high school. She was accepted at MIT, Stevens and NJIT, she chose MIT and had to let swimming go, she just did not have the time to dedicate to both.
Your Julliard example is not a good one. Most musicians that make it to Julliard had to give up sports in Jr or Sr high school. They did not have the time to dedicate to two masters. I did not play football at NJCU although several coaches and players repeatedly asked me too. I was a classical guitar major and could not possibly devote time to football, guitar, classes and still sleep an hour or two.
I don't think I could have pulled a load like Dana John is pulling. Plus I did not want to bust up my hands, and playing o-line would have done that.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 04:05:53 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 04:05:53 PM
But this seems to indicate that students performing at the 900 SAT level, for instance, aren't just as burdened by extremely difficult schoolwork. Why should that student have an easier time balancing school and athletics than a 1500 SAT student at a more difficult school? This doesn't make sense- both require choosing, taking a portion of time to devote to athletics and the rest to academics- on a relative scale.
Given the same difficulty of material, the 1500 SAT student would conceivably have a huge edge over the 900 when it came to athletics, as the amount of time it took to complete schoolwork would be greatly reduced.
And of course the majority of student athletes fall in the middle, with the student-athletes at the far edge of the spectrum much rarer. This reinforces a mirroring between the overall college student body and those who play sports. It flies in the face of your contention that high-intelligence students can't play sports.
Given the same difficulty of material, the 1500 SAT student would conceivably have a huge edge over the 900 when it came to athletics, as the amount of time it took to complete schoolwork would be greatly reduced.
And of course the majority of student athletes fall in the middle, with the student-athletes at the far edge of the spectrum much rarer. This reinforces a mirroring between the overall college student body and those who play sports. It flies in the face of your contention that high-intelligence students can't play sports.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on December 20, 2007, 04:14:02 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on December 20, 2007, 04:14:02 PM
Howie, show me where anyone said they couldn't. Rhodes stated they were less likely to and less likely to be good at both.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 20, 2007, 04:20:01 PM
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 20, 2007, 04:20:01 PM
Howard Gardner (http://www.infed.org/thinkers/gardner.htm) would probably say that basketball is bodily-kinesthetic and spatial intelligence and that Bard critically distinguishes between linguistic and logical-mathematical (and musical) intelligences in their admissions processes. :)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 04:54:27 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 20, 2007, 04:54:27 PM
"Rhodes stated they were less likely to and less likely to be good at both."
And obviously, I was summarizing. His point was that they were less likely to be good at both. I made the point that there is no evidence to support this, that in fact, a higher intelligence would help to complete schoolwork more quickly, leaving more time for athletics or other pursuits.
And obviously, I was summarizing. His point was that they were less likely to be good at both. I made the point that there is no evidence to support this, that in fact, a higher intelligence would help to complete schoolwork more quickly, leaving more time for athletics or other pursuits.
Title: POLYTECHNIC
Post by: D3HOOPSCOOP on December 21, 2007, 09:29:16 PM
Post by: D3HOOPSCOOP on December 21, 2007, 09:29:16 PM
has anyone checked out Polytechnic University? Yeah they aren't great as of yet. But they are ten times better than any teams they have had in the past. And they have a young, exciting team. Two impressive players to note are Arjun Ohri ( # 13) , a 6'3 versataile swingman who can do it all. Also, Anthony Mottola ( # 33). A 6'3 power forward. Mottola posses unique strength and speed for his position, he is able to overpower anyone who attempts to guard him, and is usually quicker than those who try as well. Mottola is a unique matchup problem and an impressive prospect.
Has anyone else seen Polytech play yet?
Has anyone else seen Polytech play yet?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2007, 10:42:14 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2007, 10:42:14 AM
Quote from: D3HOOPSCOOP on December 21, 2007, 09:29:16 PM
has anyone checked out Polytechnic University? Yeah they aren't great as of yet. But they are ten times better than any teams they have had in the past. And they have a young, exciting team. Two impressive players to note are Arjun Ohri ( # 13) , a 6'3 versataile swingman who can do it all. Also, Anthony Mottola ( # 33). A 6'3 power forward. Mottola posses unique strength and speed for his position, he is able to overpower anyone who attempts to guard him, and is usually quicker than those who try as well. Mottola is a unique matchup problem and an impressive prospect.
Has anyone else seen Polytech play yet?
I haven't seen Polytechnic play this year, but from looking over the team's results it doesn't appear that this year's team is "ten times better than any teams they have had in the past." A nine-point loss to lowly Albany Pharmacy is a fair indication that the Jays might not be much improved over previous years.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 22, 2007, 11:04:38 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 22, 2007, 11:04:38 AM
Did it ever occur to you, Rhodes, that Albany Pharmacy might be 11 times better?
I'll get to see Poly on January 24-unfortunately for them, in a loss to Bard. But I'm looking forward to seeing how they stack up to the lesser teams in the Skyline!
I'll get to see Poly on January 24-unfortunately for them, in a loss to Bard. But I'm looking forward to seeing how they stack up to the lesser teams in the Skyline!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2007, 11:26:27 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2007, 11:26:27 AM
Raptormania: It actually did occur to me that Albany Pharmacy might have improved this year over previous years. But a perusal of their results quickly disabused me of that notion.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 22, 2007, 02:11:10 PM
Post by: CityD3 on December 22, 2007, 02:11:10 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 22, 2007, 10:42:14 AMQuote from: D3HOOPSCOOP on December 21, 2007, 09:29:16 PM
has anyone checked out Polytechnic University? Yeah they aren't great as of yet. But they are ten times better than any teams they have had in the past. And they have a young, exciting team. Two impressive players to note are Arjun Ohri ( # 13) , a 6'3 versataile swingman who can do it all. Also, Anthony Mottola ( # 33). A 6'3 power forward. Mottola posses unique strength and speed for his position, he is able to overpower anyone who attempts to guard him, and is usually quicker than those who try as well. Mottola is a unique matchup problem and an impressive prospect
Has anyone else seen Polytech play yet?
I haven't seen Polytechnic play this year, but from looking over the team's results it doesn't appear that this year's team is "ten times better than any teams they have had in the past." A nine-point loss to lowly Albany Pharmacy is a fair indication that the Jays might not be much improved over previous years.
Polytech is playing under a new a system under a first year coach and a team full of freshman. They are gonnna go through some growing pains, but may knock off some of the powerhouses along the way. They will be a force in the coming years tho. This year, the conference is gonnna come down to old westbury and st joe's-LI (sorry raptormania, bard aint there yet.) St Joe's may have an all-american in David Acree.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: D3HOOPSCOOP on December 22, 2007, 02:36:24 PM
Post by: D3HOOPSCOOP on December 22, 2007, 02:36:24 PM
CityD3:Polytech is playing under a new a system under a first year coach and a team full of freshman. They are gonnna go through some growing pains, but may knock off some of the powerhouses along the way. They will be a force in the coming years tho. This year, the conference is gonnna come down to old westbury and st joe's-LI (sorry raptormania, bard aint there yet.) St Joe's may have an all-american in David Acree.
Yes, they are a very young team and as I mentioned before, Ohri and Mottola are both freshmen who could be a great 1-2 punch. Does anyone agree?
Yes, they are a very young team and as I mentioned before, Ohri and Mottola are both freshmen who could be a great 1-2 punch. Does anyone agree?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 26, 2007, 05:49:22 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 26, 2007, 05:49:22 PM
D3HOOPSCOOP: Is there any particular reason you don't consider Farmingdale State to be one of the best teams in the Skyline? The Rams were the preseason favorite and have been solid in recent years. Mt. St. Mary is also 4-1 in conference play but their in-conference schedule has been soft up to this point. Plus, the conference is weaker than last year because of the defections of Stevens and Manhattanville.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: D3HOOPSCOOP on December 27, 2007, 01:32:21 PM
Post by: D3HOOPSCOOP on December 27, 2007, 01:32:21 PM
I merely stated that Polytech had a young exciting team, with intriguing prospects in Ohri and Mottola, never said anything about whos gonna win what.
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have you seen poly play?
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have you seen poly play?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 27, 2007, 02:05:36 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 27, 2007, 02:05:36 PM
D3HOOPSCOOP: I thought the entire post on 12/22 was your own. Upon further inspection, you were quoting CityD3 in the first paragraph. Therefore, the question should have been directed to him.
I haven't seen Poly play this year. I may see them down the road. Can't say for sure yet.
I haven't seen Poly play this year. I may see them down the road. Can't say for sure yet.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 01, 2008, 02:17:22 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 01, 2008, 02:17:22 PM
Totals through 12/31
Skyline vs.
NJAC....1-3
CUNYAC....7-10
Skyline vs.
NJAC....1-3
CUNYAC....7-10
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on January 01, 2008, 07:22:51 PM
Post by: CityD3 on January 01, 2008, 07:22:51 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on December 27, 2007, 02:05:36 PM
D3HOOPSCOOP: I thought the entire post on 12/22 was your own. Upon further inspection, you were quoting CityD3 in the first paragraph. Therefore, the question should have been directed to him.
I haven't seen Poly play this year. I may see them down the road. Can't say for sure yet.
You're right i forgot to mention mount st mary's. however i think farmingdale is the the fourth best team in the league right now. They already lost to old westbury albeit in double overtime. and like i said i dothink st. joe's is the best team in the league, but not be a wide margin.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 03, 2008, 05:31:32 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 03, 2008, 05:31:32 PM
Here are some of the top out-of-conference wins for the Skyline this season:
11/17 Farmingdale State 98, Otterbein 94
11/17 Old Westbury 70, Brooklyn 67
11/26 Farmingdale State 85, Baruch 80
12/15 Farmingdale State 75, Rutgers-Newark 69
12/29 Maritime 70, Brooklyn 68
Also Bard dealt Green Mountain (8-1) its only loss of the season. The Raptors beat the Eagles 100-81 on 11/20.
11/17 Farmingdale State 98, Otterbein 94
11/17 Old Westbury 70, Brooklyn 67
11/26 Farmingdale State 85, Baruch 80
12/15 Farmingdale State 75, Rutgers-Newark 69
12/29 Maritime 70, Brooklyn 68
Also Bard dealt Green Mountain (8-1) its only loss of the season. The Raptors beat the Eagles 100-81 on 11/20.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on January 04, 2008, 12:50:52 AM
Post by: CityD3 on January 04, 2008, 12:50:52 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 03, 2008, 05:31:32 PM
Here are some of the top out-of-conference wins for the Skyline this season:
11/17 Farmingdale State 98, Otterbein 94
11/17 Old Westbury 70, Brooklyn 67
11/26 Farmingdale State 85, Baruch 80
12/15 Farmingdale State 75, Rutgers-Newark 69
12/29 Maritime 70, Brooklyn 68
Also Bard dealt Green Mountain (8-1) its only loss of the season. The Raptors beat the Eagles 100-81 on 11/20.
Where's raptormania? thats a pretty good win for bard against green mountain....i know they are only an independent but the kid hammond is a monster
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 04, 2008, 01:52:31 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 04, 2008, 01:52:31 PM
I mentioned it here when it happened. Bard dominated them, but Hammond is a fantastic player.
As for where Raptormania! is, a pantheistic view is most accurate. Raptormania! is everywhere, it is always with you. It is in your hearts, in your minds, and in your breakfast cereal.
As for where Raptormania! is, a pantheistic view is most accurate. Raptormania! is everywhere, it is always with you. It is in your hearts, in your minds, and in your breakfast cereal.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 09, 2008, 09:39:44 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 09, 2008, 09:39:44 AM
Skyline Conference results from 1/8
Farmingdale St. 92, Bard 77
Maritime 65, Purchase 58
Mount St. Mary 90, Polytechnic 83
St. Joseph's 80, Mount St. Vincent 70
No surprises last night as the favorite won every game. Here are the conference standings:
St. Joe's 6-0
MSM 5-1
Farmingdale 3-1
Maritime 4-2
Old Westbury 3-2
Yeshiva 3-4
Poly 1-3
Purchase 1-4
MSV 0-4
Bard 0-5
Farmingdale St. 92, Bard 77
Maritime 65, Purchase 58
Mount St. Mary 90, Polytechnic 83
St. Joseph's 80, Mount St. Vincent 70
No surprises last night as the favorite won every game. Here are the conference standings:
St. Joe's 6-0
MSM 5-1
Farmingdale 3-1
Maritime 4-2
Old Westbury 3-2
Yeshiva 3-4
Poly 1-3
Purchase 1-4
MSV 0-4
Bard 0-5
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: knight_life on January 11, 2008, 01:37:04 PM
Post by: knight_life on January 11, 2008, 01:37:04 PM
Bard dominated who, their 0-5 in the Skyline, or as some could say these days....the Junior Skyline Conference. Maritime, is 4-2, that should say it all, that might be the first conference wins they have had since the days of the IAC.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: sixfour on January 11, 2008, 05:09:51 PM
Post by: sixfour on January 11, 2008, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: knight_life on January 11, 2008, 01:37:04 PM
Bard dominated who, their 0-5 in the Skyline, or as some could say these days....the Junior Skyline Conference. Maritime, is 4-2, that should say it all, that might be the first conference wins they have had since the days of the IAC.
youre forgetting the early 2000's when jack kelly and co. had some good seasons
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 12, 2008, 12:57:41 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 12, 2008, 12:57:41 AM
Bard played the undefeated conference leader close, took Yeshiva to overtime, and will win their share of games in the Skyline. Wins over last season's NCAA club Rivier and one-loss Green Mountain have also made this season good- but with such a young team, the nest is yet to come.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2008, 09:37:59 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2008, 09:37:59 AM
Today's Skyline Conference games:
Bard (0-5) at Purchase (1-4)
Farmingdale St. (4-1) at Maritime (4-2)
MSM (5-1) at MSV (0-4)
Old Westbury (3-2) at Poly (1-4)
Bard (0-5) at Purchase (1-4)
Farmingdale St. (4-1) at Maritime (4-2)
MSM (5-1) at MSV (0-4)
Old Westbury (3-2) at Poly (1-4)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2008, 10:43:33 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 12, 2008, 10:43:33 AM
OxyBob: Nice to see your keyboard has been fixed. Last time you posted here the letter 'e' was stuck. ;)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 12, 2008, 08:55:22 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 12, 2008, 08:55:22 PM
Bard with a nice Skyline conference road win, 103-91 at SUNY-Purchase. Demitrius Washington, Justin White and Ray Arocho all finished with more than 20 points, while ARKANSAS PRIDE David Polett finished with 15.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2008, 10:48:33 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2008, 10:48:33 AM
Scores from 1/12
Bard 102, Purchase 91
Farmingdale St. 91, Maritime 75
MSV 88, MSM 87
Old Westbury 90, Poly 77
Skyline Standings
St. Joe's 6-0
Farmingdale 5-1
MSM 5-2
Old Westbury 4-2
Maritime 4-3
Yeshiva 3-4
MSV 1-4
Bard 1-5
Poly 1-5
Purchase 1-5
Bard 102, Purchase 91
Farmingdale St. 91, Maritime 75
MSV 88, MSM 87
Old Westbury 90, Poly 77
Skyline Standings
St. Joe's 6-0
Farmingdale 5-1
MSM 5-2
Old Westbury 4-2
Maritime 4-3
Yeshiva 3-4
MSV 1-4
Bard 1-5
Poly 1-5
Purchase 1-5
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2008, 12:25:25 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2008, 12:25:25 PM
Bard got their first conference win yesterday beating Purchase. It was certainly a winnable game for the Raptors and they came up with the victory. In the biggest surprise of the day, Mount St. Vincent won their first conference game with an upset win over Mount St. Mary in Riverdale. Old Westbury stayed in contention with a road win at Polytechnic. And in the premier matchup, Farmingdale State handily defeated Maritime in Throggs Neck to stay on the heels of St. Joseph's.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2008, 11:15:42 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2008, 11:15:42 AM
In the only Skyline Conference game yesterday, Mt. Saint Vincent defeat Bard, 104-95, in Riverdale. It was MSV's second straight conference win after losing their first four games. It remains to be seen whether the Dolphins will join Yeshiva and Maritime as middle-of-the-pack teams or whether they'll be relegated to the bottom tier. With the loss, the Raptors take sole possession of last place.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 16, 2008, 10:47:55 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 16, 2008, 10:47:55 AM
Worth noting, however, that "sole possession" is by half a game, and Bard still has both games against Poly, the home games against both Mt. St. Vincent and Purchase, etc. When it is all said and done, they will hold their own in their first season in the Skyline. As it was, they played MSV very tough in a difficult environment.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 16, 2008, 12:48:59 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 16, 2008, 12:48:59 PM
Bard has 11 more conference games this year. And I agree with you that they're capable of winning some of those games.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 16, 2008, 02:36:36 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 16, 2008, 02:36:36 PM
Three conference games today:
Old Westbury (4-2) @ Purchase (1-5)
Polytechnic (1-5) @ Maritime (4-3)
St. Joe's (6-0) @ Farmingdale (5-1)
Old Westbury (4-2) @ Purchase (1-5)
Polytechnic (1-5) @ Maritime (4-3)
St. Joe's (6-0) @ Farmingdale (5-1)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 17, 2008, 09:17:45 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 17, 2008, 09:17:45 AM
Scores from 1/16
Farmingdale St. 74, St. Joseph's 70
Maritime 86, Polytechnic 81
Old Westbury 95, Purchase 67
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 6-1
St. Joseph's 6-1
MSM 5-2
Old Westbury 5-2
Maritime 5-3
Yeshiva 3-4
MSV 2-4
Bard 1-6
Poly 1-6
Purchase 1-6
Farmingdale St. 74, St. Joseph's 70
Maritime 86, Polytechnic 81
Old Westbury 95, Purchase 67
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 6-1
St. Joseph's 6-1
MSM 5-2
Old Westbury 5-2
Maritime 5-3
Yeshiva 3-4
MSV 2-4
Bard 1-6
Poly 1-6
Purchase 1-6
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2008, 09:04:07 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2008, 09:04:07 PM
I watched Polytechnic defeat Mount St. Vincent, 90-85, earlier today. The game was not as close as the final score would have one believe. A late run by the Dolphins made it closer than it should have been.
For the Bluejays, Thomas DeMarco is a versatile point guard. Jordan Mattfield can shoot the three. Arjun Ohri is a good all-around player. Jason Buckner has some size and athleticism in the middle. Anthony Mottola is a hustler and very physical under the basket. Poly is a very young team that could be decent down the road.
Mount St. Vincent has a good point guard in Dino Johnson, but he has to get stronger. Joe Cooke is a very good long-range shooter. Derek Charlton is an excellent defender and saavy floor leader. Kyle Byron is the team's best big man. MSV is also a very young team and like Poly needs some time to grow and develop.
For the Bluejays, Thomas DeMarco is a versatile point guard. Jordan Mattfield can shoot the three. Arjun Ohri is a good all-around player. Jason Buckner has some size and athleticism in the middle. Anthony Mottola is a hustler and very physical under the basket. Poly is a very young team that could be decent down the road.
Mount St. Vincent has a good point guard in Dino Johnson, but he has to get stronger. Joe Cooke is a very good long-range shooter. Derek Charlton is an excellent defender and saavy floor leader. Kyle Byron is the team's best big man. MSV is also a very young team and like Poly needs some time to grow and develop.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 20, 2008, 10:12:10 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 20, 2008, 10:12:10 AM
Scores from 1/19
Farmingdale 113, MSM 80
Old Westbury 91, Bard 73
Polytechnic 90, MSV 85
St. Joseph's 75, Purchase 60
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 7-1
St. Joe's 7-1
Old Westbury 6-2
Maritime 5-3
MSM 5-3
Yeshiva 3-4
MSV 2-5
Poly 2-6
Bard 1-7
Purchase 1-7
Farmingdale 113, MSM 80
Old Westbury 91, Bard 73
Polytechnic 90, MSV 85
St. Joseph's 75, Purchase 60
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 7-1
St. Joe's 7-1
Old Westbury 6-2
Maritime 5-3
MSM 5-3
Yeshiva 3-4
MSV 2-5
Poly 2-6
Bard 1-7
Purchase 1-7
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 20, 2008, 11:50:09 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 20, 2008, 11:50:09 PM
Best player in the skyline right now?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 21, 2008, 09:04:52 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 21, 2008, 09:04:52 AM
David Acree, Damien Santana and Erastus Shannon are among the best players in the conference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 21, 2008, 09:17:27 AM
Post by: NYBB on January 21, 2008, 09:17:27 AM
What about Jamal Webb?...he's a force to be reckoned with and personally, i think Maritime is a sleeper team in this conference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 21, 2008, 09:43:06 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 21, 2008, 09:43:06 AM
I haven't seen Webb play so I can't comment. Maritime appears to be a middle-of-the-pack team. They've beaten Yeshiva, Bard, MSV, Purchase and Poly, but have lost to St. Joe's, MSM and Farmingdale.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 22, 2008, 09:23:29 AM
Post by: NYBB on January 22, 2008, 09:23:29 AM
you should def. catch Webb because he's a senior and won't be around for long. He plays the 4 through the 1 on Maritime and is as comprable to Lebron as anyone in D3 basketball.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 23, 2008, 07:58:59 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 23, 2008, 07:58:59 AM
I'd like to see every team in the Skyline this year, so hopefully down the road I'll catch Maritime.
Mount St. Vincent beat Yeshiva, 70-56, last night in Riverdale. The Dolphins have won three of their last four conference games and are now tied with Yeshiva in the conference standings.
Mount St. Vincent beat Yeshiva, 70-56, last night in Riverdale. The Dolphins have won three of their last four conference games and are now tied with Yeshiva in the conference standings.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 23, 2008, 08:54:01 AM
Post by: NYBB on January 23, 2008, 08:54:01 AM
MSV is young for the most part... I believe they're only losing one or two guys who contribute so they should be better next season. Right now they're just not playing well as a team and it's leading to an inconsistent streak of wins and losses.
What do you think of Purchase?
What do you think of Purchase?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 23, 2008, 11:10:15 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 23, 2008, 11:10:15 PM
I haven't seen Purchase play, but they're obviously one of the weaker teams in the conference. Good chance they'll finish in last place this year. What's your take on Purchase?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 24, 2008, 12:58:18 AM
Post by: NYBB on January 24, 2008, 12:58:18 AM
i'm going to play at purchase in the fall and my take on them is that they need help. they have an excellent freshman point guard who dominates guys who aren't as quick as him but doesn't play as well against older, stronger guys. he reminds me a lot of rajon rondo. purchase also has a good small forward in kazeem famuyide, a d2 transfer who has one more year left. they have potential so we'll see.
i still think Webb is the best player in the conference (i played with him in HS) because of his versatility. Make sure to check him out when you get the chance.
i still think Webb is the best player in the conference (i played with him in HS) because of his versatility. Make sure to check him out when you get the chance.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 24, 2008, 09:08:33 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 24, 2008, 09:08:33 AM
NYBB: Good luck at Purchase and keep posting.
Results from 1/23
Old Westbury 68, Maritime 61
St. Joseph's 80, MSM 66
Old Westbury remains 1/2 game out of first place with the win over Maritime. St. Joe's deals MSM their third straight conference defeat.
Interesting stat: So far the big three (Farmingdale, St. Joe's and Old Westbury) have not lost a conference game to the seven other schools in the Skyline.
Results from 1/23
Old Westbury 68, Maritime 61
St. Joseph's 80, MSM 66
Old Westbury remains 1/2 game out of first place with the win over Maritime. St. Joe's deals MSM their third straight conference defeat.
Interesting stat: So far the big three (Farmingdale, St. Joe's and Old Westbury) have not lost a conference game to the seven other schools in the Skyline.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pryme0bjective on January 24, 2008, 01:32:11 PM
Post by: Pryme0bjective on January 24, 2008, 01:32:11 PM
has anybody seen farmingdale play? i think they have the two best players in the conference with shannon and santana. shannon is the conference player of the week for the second week in a row and santana has been lighting up the conference all year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Lefty on January 24, 2008, 03:38:03 PM
Post by: Lefty on January 24, 2008, 03:38:03 PM
PrymeObjective.....here is a write-up that Knightstalker wrote about the Farmingdale @ NJCU game back in late November. I was at that game too and was impressed with Rams. Here is his write-up:
Quote from: Knightstalker on November 29, 2007, 10:31:42 AM
Caught the NJCU Farmingdale game last night. The Knights looked decent and should improve. A couple of freshmen, Derrick Miller and Tom McDermott are getting a lot of playing time and both look pretty good. Miller has a nice shot and McDermott looks to be a good rebounder and defender. Dana John broke the schools 3 point record last night and should go over 1000 points for his career before the semester ends.
Farmingdale has a pretty good team it appears. Santana is the real deal, he does shoot his free throws from the middle of the circle. Lipka and Shannon are both good players and all three are good shooters. They have good depth and as the season progresses should play some good defense. They used the press but they need to improve it if they expect to be effective later in the season. I think the Rams should contend for the Skyline title. They have done a very good job of building a competitive program and are getting players from good HS programs.
There was a crew there from ESPN filming some of the game for a piece they are doing on Dana John which I believe airs on December 11. This is what a reliable source told me.
I was also told that Kevin Tucker should be back next semester.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 24, 2008, 10:35:21 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 24, 2008, 10:35:21 PM
who won the MSV v. Purchase game tonight?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2008, 08:27:03 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2008, 08:27:03 AM
Scores from 1/24
Bard 77, Polytechnic 70
Farmingdale St. 86, Yeshiva 59
Mount St. Vincent 101, Purchase 71
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 8-1
St. Joe's 8-1
Old Westbury 7-2
Maritime 5-4
MSM 5-4
MSV 4-5
Yeshiva 3-6
Bard 2-7
Poly 2-7
Purchase 1-8
Bard 77, Polytechnic 70
Farmingdale St. 86, Yeshiva 59
Mount St. Vincent 101, Purchase 71
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 8-1
St. Joe's 8-1
Old Westbury 7-2
Maritime 5-4
MSM 5-4
MSV 4-5
Yeshiva 3-6
Bard 2-7
Poly 2-7
Purchase 1-8
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2008, 08:52:53 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2008, 08:52:53 AM
I watched Bard beat Poly last night. The game was competitive from the start, and Bard was able to hold off a couple of Poly runs down the stretch to secure the victory. Bard got solid efforts from Demitrius Washington (23 pts) and Justin White (21 pts). Trevor McGinn grabbed a couple of big rebounds in crunch time as well.
Anthony Mottola (14 pts) played well for Poly. Tyree Williams (12 pts) put in a decent effort before fouling out. Jason Buckner (9 pts) started off strong but faded. Arjun Ohri (9 pts) played well in spurts, but was erratic.
Anthony Mottola (14 pts) played well for Poly. Tyree Williams (12 pts) put in a decent effort before fouling out. Jason Buckner (9 pts) started off strong but faded. Arjun Ohri (9 pts) played well in spurts, but was erratic.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on January 25, 2008, 09:10:18 AM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on January 25, 2008, 09:10:18 AM
Is there anyone in the Skyline this year that would have kept either Stevens or Manhattanville from winning the conference?
Those two were the two best teams in the conference last year and both have pretty much the same, if not better rosters (Stevens getting back the big kid Williams who dominated the skyline and Manhattanville having the whole crew of Chisolm, Fink, Moffett). Stevens has been a top 25 team all year in a much tougher conference, I have to assume they'd be the favorites along with Manhattanville if both were still around. Out of the top 3 I'd say maybe Farmingdale gives this years Stevens and Manhattanville a game...St. Joes rarely beats Manhattanville and almost never beats Stevens...Westbury has played both tough, including knocking Stevens out in the Skyline last year, but I think both the Ducks and Valiants have better teams than 06-07.
Those two were the two best teams in the conference last year and both have pretty much the same, if not better rosters (Stevens getting back the big kid Williams who dominated the skyline and Manhattanville having the whole crew of Chisolm, Fink, Moffett). Stevens has been a top 25 team all year in a much tougher conference, I have to assume they'd be the favorites along with Manhattanville if both were still around. Out of the top 3 I'd say maybe Farmingdale gives this years Stevens and Manhattanville a game...St. Joes rarely beats Manhattanville and almost never beats Stevens...Westbury has played both tough, including knocking Stevens out in the Skyline last year, but I think both the Ducks and Valiants have better teams than 06-07.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 25, 2008, 12:49:07 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 25, 2008, 12:49:07 PM
Rhodes,
I'm jealous- a previous commitment kept me from Poly, a place I always love to visit. Am I correct that the top 8 teams play in the conference tourney?
If so, Bard looks to have a clear path to the conference tourney- both Poly and Purchase at home should be wins, Mt. St. vincent, who they played very tough away, comes to Stevenson Gym, and Yeshiva, who they took to OT, is next on the schedule away.
I'm jealous- a previous commitment kept me from Poly, a place I always love to visit. Am I correct that the top 8 teams play in the conference tourney?
If so, Bard looks to have a clear path to the conference tourney- both Poly and Purchase at home should be wins, Mt. St. vincent, who they played very tough away, comes to Stevenson Gym, and Yeshiva, who they took to OT, is next on the schedule away.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 25, 2008, 01:11:46 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 25, 2008, 01:11:46 PM
Apparently, it is only the top 4 teams in the tournament. Well, that makes it a more difficult road for Bard. Let the winning streak commence!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 25, 2008, 06:53:55 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 25, 2008, 06:53:55 PM
top 4? that's bogus! IT SHOULD BE TOP 8!!!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 25, 2008, 10:17:37 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 25, 2008, 10:17:37 PM
I'm very surprised- I'd think a Division III conference would be dedicated to as many student-athletes getting to experience the postseason as possible. Let's hope this is temporary.
Good luck at Purchase in the fall, by the way- a worthy adversary for Bard, and a terrific school.
Good luck at Purchase in the fall, by the way- a worthy adversary for Bard, and a terrific school.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2008, 11:10:33 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2008, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: Cyclone0205 on January 25, 2008, 09:10:18 AMYou answered your question the same way I would.
Is there anyone in the Skyline this year that would have kept either Stevens or Manhattanville from winning the conference?
Quote from: NYBB on January 25, 2008, 06:53:55 PMSix teams would be a good compromise.
top 4? that's bogus! IT SHOULD BE TOP 8!!!
Quote from: Raptormania! on January 25, 2008, 12:49:07 PMYou missed a pretty good game. The gym was packed and the two teams are pretty evenly matched. Poly has a little more overall talent, but Washington and White were a bit too much for the Jays last night.
Rhodes,
I'm jealous- a previous commitment kept me from Poly, a place I always love to visit.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 25, 2008, 11:23:13 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 25, 2008, 11:23:13 PM
Top 6 would be good if the #1 and #2 got byes in the first. 3 plays 6, 4 vs 5. Winner plays 1 & 2. Good, no?
I have to stop ordering pads and sleeves! I have shooting sleeves in blue, black & grey. i have leg sleeves in black and white, i have elbow pads in blue...AHHHHH.
I have to stop ordering pads and sleeves! I have shooting sleeves in blue, black & grey. i have leg sleeves in black and white, i have elbow pads in blue...AHHHHH.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2008, 11:40:58 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2008, 11:40:58 PM
Quote from: NYBB on January 25, 2008, 11:23:13 PMExactly. Four teams is too restrictive. Eight teams is probably a bit much.
Top 6 would be good if the #1 and #2 got byes in the first. 3 plays 6, 4 vs 5. Winner plays 1 & 2.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 25, 2008, 11:43:02 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 25, 2008, 11:43:02 PM
i actually just looked on my potential future team's site and noticed they list the playoffs (which they will not reach this season) as quarterfinals, semi finals, finals so perhaps there are 6 or 8 teams in the tournament...
http://www.purchase.edu/departments/PhysicalEducation/mensbasketball/schedule.aspx
http://www.purchase.edu/departments/PhysicalEducation/mensbasketball/schedule.aspx
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2008, 11:59:31 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 25, 2008, 11:59:31 PM
The conference tournament has been eight teams. The first I heard of a four-team tournament was Raptormania's post. Don't know if he's right or not.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 26, 2008, 12:23:21 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 26, 2008, 12:23:21 AM
FWIW, I am of the opinion that every single team should be allowed to participate in a conference tournament. Teams that had great seasons will get bids anyway, while a mediocre team that is shunted aside by a cinderella story is, to my mind, great for basketball anyway. I know that is a subjective opinion, but I have always loved seeing teams make noise in their conference tournaments, their whole season on the line- arguably, the weekend prior to the DI NCAA tournament is better than the first two rounds, and those are fantastic.
The Comissioner of the Skyline is good and just, and I believe he will rectify this injustice, sooner than later.
The Comissioner of the Skyline is good and just, and I believe he will rectify this injustice, sooner than later.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 26, 2008, 05:50:19 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 26, 2008, 05:50:19 AM
Raptor is right, perfect example was old westbury last year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 09:42:12 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 09:42:12 AM
If you include all the teams in a conference tournament you're basically negating the regular season. You have to make the regular season count for something other than home court advantage in the playoffs. Why should teams that win one or two conference games get into the conference tournament? I don't think every team has a right to make the playoffs--they should be required to win some games in order to participate.
That said, there is no right or wrong answer. It's a matter of personal philosophy and perspective. In my opinion if you let every team in a ten-team conference in, then you're being too inclusive. Eight teams would be better than ten. At least you're telling the two bottom teams that they'll have to improve in order to participate. Six teams seems optimal because you're letting in the best teams and the middle-of-the-pack as well. Four teams is too restrictive.
That said, there is no right or wrong answer. It's a matter of personal philosophy and perspective. In my opinion if you let every team in a ten-team conference in, then you're being too inclusive. Eight teams would be better than ten. At least you're telling the two bottom teams that they'll have to improve in order to participate. Six teams seems optimal because you're letting in the best teams and the middle-of-the-pack as well. Four teams is too restrictive.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 26, 2008, 07:10:27 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 26, 2008, 07:10:27 PM
it's 8 teams.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 10:12:18 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 10:12:18 PM
A Poly assistant coach told me today it was six teams. ???
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 26, 2008, 10:43:18 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 26, 2008, 10:43:18 PM
6 teams makes the most sense and i actually hope it is 6 teams. BTW, who won in Poly vs. my future, Purchase?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 10:53:16 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2008, 10:53:16 PM
Purchase 65, Polytechnic 60
Purchase High Scorers: Tyriq Harrington 17 pts, Kazeem Famuyide 16 pts, Henry Ferrarin 13 pts
Poly High Scorers: Arjun Ohri 15 pts, Jason Buckner 13 pts, Jordan Mattfield 10 pts
Purchase High Scorers: Tyriq Harrington 17 pts, Kazeem Famuyide 16 pts, Henry Ferrarin 13 pts
Poly High Scorers: Arjun Ohri 15 pts, Jason Buckner 13 pts, Jordan Mattfield 10 pts
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 26, 2008, 11:01:05 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 26, 2008, 11:01:05 PM
Wow! Purchase finally won one for Coach Charney...and Polytech beat them relatively easy last time. Wow. Very nice
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 27, 2008, 10:35:37 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 27, 2008, 10:35:37 PM
Fantastic! A source from on high confirmed to me that it is six teams in the postseason tournament.
So Bard essentially needs all its winnable games- should win at home against Purchase and Poly, and took Yeshiva to OT, and played MSV close away, could win both of these as well. That gets them to six conference wins- another and it is seven. (That Yeshiva loss looms large right now!!!)
Yeshiva at three wins would need, if Bard defeats them, to beat Poly at home, Purchase on the road, and defeat two top-tier conference foes, most of whom require Yeshiva to win away, to top six wins.
MSV has at Poly and at Purchase- a win by either would help Bard enormously. The rest is more difficult.
Looks to my eyes like 8 wins should get a team into the tourney for sure- seven gives a team a good chance, and six is the bubble.
Sounds like Tuesday is the chance for Bard to avenge the Throggs Neck Massacre.
P.S. Eight teams doesn't negate the regular season, nor does ten. You can provide byes for the top two teams in a 10-team scenario, making those spots valuable, while the third team gets to face the worst team in the conference. If the teams were not seeded, I could see your point.
Of course, it is subjective. But if the NCAA tournament upsets have told us anything, it is that people love underdogs and the drama that goes with him. Now, if you feel comfortable opposing the will of the people, so be it. But I won't sit by and let such un-American sentiments go unchallenged.
So Bard essentially needs all its winnable games- should win at home against Purchase and Poly, and took Yeshiva to OT, and played MSV close away, could win both of these as well. That gets them to six conference wins- another and it is seven. (That Yeshiva loss looms large right now!!!)
Yeshiva at three wins would need, if Bard defeats them, to beat Poly at home, Purchase on the road, and defeat two top-tier conference foes, most of whom require Yeshiva to win away, to top six wins.
MSV has at Poly and at Purchase- a win by either would help Bard enormously. The rest is more difficult.
Looks to my eyes like 8 wins should get a team into the tourney for sure- seven gives a team a good chance, and six is the bubble.
Sounds like Tuesday is the chance for Bard to avenge the Throggs Neck Massacre.
P.S. Eight teams doesn't negate the regular season, nor does ten. You can provide byes for the top two teams in a 10-team scenario, making those spots valuable, while the third team gets to face the worst team in the conference. If the teams were not seeded, I could see your point.
Of course, it is subjective. But if the NCAA tournament upsets have told us anything, it is that people love underdogs and the drama that goes with him. Now, if you feel comfortable opposing the will of the people, so be it. But I won't sit by and let such un-American sentiments go unchallenged.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 27, 2008, 11:10:32 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 27, 2008, 11:10:32 PM
From my perspective it's rather simple: Farmingdale, St. Joe's and Old Westbury are locks. Maritime is very likely and MSM is probable. That leaves five teams battling for the final spot.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 28, 2008, 12:43:21 AM
Post by: NYBB on January 28, 2008, 12:43:21 AM
St. Joe's and Farmingdale will place 1 and 2. Old Westbury and Maritime 3 and 4. Mt. St. Mary & Mt. St. Vincent will round out the 5 and 6 spots leaving Yeshiva, Bard (sorry raptormania!), Poly & Purchase to wait till next year.
Westbury defeats Mt. St. Vincent, Maritime gets by Mt. St. Mary. Favorites win and the finals end up 1v2 with Farmingdale taking it in a close matchup.
Westbury defeats Mt. St. Vincent, Maritime gets by Mt. St. Mary. Favorites win and the finals end up 1v2 with Farmingdale taking it in a close matchup.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 28, 2008, 10:04:05 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 28, 2008, 10:04:05 AM
Right now there are three distinct groupings in the Skyline:
The top tier--Farmingdale, St. Joe's and Old Westbury--is 23-1 against the rest of the conference.
The middle tier--Maritime, MSM and MSV--is winless against the big three but is 11-1 vs. the bottom four. The only blemish was MSV's loss to Polytechnic.
The bottom tier--Bard, Poly, Purchase and Yeshiva--is 2-22 vs. the top two tiers.
Obviously it's not going to be easy for any of the bottom tier teams to make the conference tournament this year.
The top tier--Farmingdale, St. Joe's and Old Westbury--is 23-1 against the rest of the conference.
The middle tier--Maritime, MSM and MSV--is winless against the big three but is 11-1 vs. the bottom four. The only blemish was MSV's loss to Polytechnic.
The bottom tier--Bard, Poly, Purchase and Yeshiva--is 2-22 vs. the top two tiers.
Obviously it's not going to be easy for any of the bottom tier teams to make the conference tournament this year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 28, 2008, 11:05:40 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 28, 2008, 11:05:40 AM
That is fair based upon the results right now- but given the closeness of the MSV/Bard game, and that the rematch is at Bard, I'm not sold on MSV as clearly better than Bard. The Raptors are also a young team that has improved greatly as the season has progressed.
Bard needs to step up, no question. But I think they will give tier 2 a run for its money.
Bard needs to step up, no question. But I think they will give tier 2 a run for its money.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 28, 2008, 01:35:03 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 28, 2008, 01:35:03 PM
The Raptors are not nearly as young of a team as MSV.
Bard's best all around player, Arocho, is a senior and so is their only legit big man, McGinn. Their best guard, Washington, is also a senior and if you look at MSV, they're only losing one real impact senior and coming back next year with a large majority of their players with 2 or 3 years left.
I've seen Bard play: they're tenacious on D and create a lot of havoc. They run and they shoot, kind of like Golden State and when they're hot, they're hot. But when they're not and the guards they're playing against know how to control the game, the defense doesn't work nearly as well.
Bard's best all around player, Arocho, is a senior and so is their only legit big man, McGinn. Their best guard, Washington, is also a senior and if you look at MSV, they're only losing one real impact senior and coming back next year with a large majority of their players with 2 or 3 years left.
I've seen Bard play: they're tenacious on D and create a lot of havoc. They run and they shoot, kind of like Golden State and when they're hot, they're hot. But when they're not and the guards they're playing against know how to control the game, the defense doesn't work nearly as well.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 28, 2008, 03:26:47 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 28, 2008, 03:26:47 PM
Not nearly as young? Bard has three players that aren't underclassmen- MSV has three players that aren't underclassmen.
I think both will improve as the season goes on- but I suspect, given the talent of some of Bard's younger players (ie. Justin White), that the Raptors have a chance to make some noise down the stretch. When they are shooting well, they are tough to beat- there are so many weapons there.
I think both will improve as the season goes on- but I suspect, given the talent of some of Bard's younger players (ie. Justin White), that the Raptors have a chance to make some noise down the stretch. When they are shooting well, they are tough to beat- there are so many weapons there.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 28, 2008, 10:18:10 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 28, 2008, 10:18:10 PM
they are a decent outside shooting team...they remind me of the GS warriors in the way they play an uptempo game. All i know is that the 3 guys graduating out of Bard this year will be much more of a loss than the 3 that MSV are losing.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 28, 2008, 11:40:20 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 28, 2008, 11:40:20 PM
Oh, don't get me wrong, Washington, McGinn and Arocho are all huge losses for Bard. But the point we were discussing was Bard's youth relative to this year- and the large number of young players taking steps forward are what will make them increasingly tough down the stretch.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 29, 2008, 01:02:23 AM
Post by: NYBB on January 29, 2008, 01:02:23 AM
I agree. And i do like Justin's game...he's an excellent FT shooter and plays well under pressure. I just don't think Bard is going to be in good shape next season after losing the 3 we've mentioned.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 29, 2008, 09:15:16 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 29, 2008, 09:15:16 AM
There's a full slate of conference games tonight:
St. Joe's (9-1) @ Poly (2-8)
Old Westbury ( 8-2) @ MSV (4-6)
Maritime (5-5) @ Bard (2-7)
Yeshiva (3-6) @ MSM (5-5)
Farmingdale (9-1) @ Purchase (2-8)
St. Joe's (9-1) @ Poly (2-8)
Old Westbury ( 8-2) @ MSV (4-6)
Maritime (5-5) @ Bard (2-7)
Yeshiva (3-6) @ MSM (5-5)
Farmingdale (9-1) @ Purchase (2-8)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 29, 2008, 10:27:46 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 29, 2008, 10:27:46 AM
It all depends on how Coach Wood recruits. But you're right, he'll need to add some pieces. I suspect strongly that he will. And they have a nice base of talent already there- and a year older.
So if form holds, but Bard can upend Maritime, the Raptors will be tied in the loss column for the final playoff spot, right? MSV, Yeshiva, Bard all will have seven losses- and Bard plays both of them before the season ends.
So if form holds, but Bard can upend Maritime, the Raptors will be tied in the loss column for the final playoff spot, right? MSV, Yeshiva, Bard all will have seven losses- and Bard plays both of them before the season ends.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 29, 2008, 12:38:32 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 29, 2008, 12:38:32 PM
Maritime is going to create matchup problems with their best player (in my opinion, the best player in the SKY), Jamal Webb. He's a Lebron type player in that he plays the 1 through 4 : he can dribble, post up and shoot from the outside. Should be an interesting game.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 29, 2008, 10:55:10 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 29, 2008, 10:55:10 PM
St. Joseph's 87, Polytechnic 67
St. Joe's
David Acree 20 pts
Phil Lipari 18 pts
Mike Crisci 13 pts
Poly
Arjun Ohri 16 pts
Jason Buckner 15 pts
Anthony Mottola 12 pts
This game was never in doubt as the Golden Eagles had way too much firepower for the Blue Jays to handle. St. Joe's led 40-22 at the half and was rapidly expanding their lead before Poly made a comeback midway through the second half to keep the deficit quasi-respectable.
Acree was scoreless at the break but put on a show after the intermission. He repeatedly beat his man off the dribble and either scored from outside or in the lane. Although Acree may be the best player in the conference, St. Joe's is not a one-man team. The Golden Eagles have a variety of weapons and can score inside or on the perimeter. They play good defense and are physical as well.
Poly hustled and never quit but they simply lacked the talent level to compete. Ohri played well for the Blue Jays, while Buckner, Mottola and Vashista Amarjit were effective in spots.
St. Joe's
David Acree 20 pts
Phil Lipari 18 pts
Mike Crisci 13 pts
Poly
Arjun Ohri 16 pts
Jason Buckner 15 pts
Anthony Mottola 12 pts
This game was never in doubt as the Golden Eagles had way too much firepower for the Blue Jays to handle. St. Joe's led 40-22 at the half and was rapidly expanding their lead before Poly made a comeback midway through the second half to keep the deficit quasi-respectable.
Acree was scoreless at the break but put on a show after the intermission. He repeatedly beat his man off the dribble and either scored from outside or in the lane. Although Acree may be the best player in the conference, St. Joe's is not a one-man team. The Golden Eagles have a variety of weapons and can score inside or on the perimeter. They play good defense and are physical as well.
Poly hustled and never quit but they simply lacked the talent level to compete. Ohri played well for the Blue Jays, while Buckner, Mottola and Vashista Amarjit were effective in spots.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 30, 2008, 12:21:11 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 30, 2008, 12:21:11 AM
Big win by Bard over Maritime, 87-77, to move into a three-way tie in the loss column for the Skyline Conference's final playoff spot. Raptors shot 30-56 from the field, and even outrebounded Maritime. Justin White's 26 led Bard, matching mini-Lebron point for point.
Big game Thursday- a Bard win at Yeshiva, and the Raptors are in the driver's seat for that final playoff spot.
Big game Thursday- a Bard win at Yeshiva, and the Raptors are in the driver's seat for that final playoff spot.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 30, 2008, 12:49:16 AM
Post by: NYBB on January 30, 2008, 12:49:16 AM
Wow...nice job Bard! But, Webb (mini Lebron) had 14 boards, 8 assists, 2 blocks and 3 steals. Ridiculous.
ALSO - Biggest news in Skyline play this year lol - Farmingdale 109-39 over Purchase...that has to be the only 70 point victory in D3 this season.
ALSO - Biggest news in Skyline play this year lol - Farmingdale 109-39 over Purchase...that has to be the only 70 point victory in D3 this season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: atn alum on January 30, 2008, 01:14:14 AM
Post by: atn alum on January 30, 2008, 01:14:14 AM
NYBB
It isn't the only one this season. Muhlenberg beat Philly Bible by 70 earlier this year. 70+ point wins happen at this level. It's not a record.
Not to be rude, but I don't know that it was necessary to reference this result in as many places as you did (including a reply to a blog about Wash U). Your enthusiasm is appreciated, but keep in mind that there are some places that are better than others to make this reference
It isn't the only one this season. Muhlenberg beat Philly Bible by 70 earlier this year. 70+ point wins happen at this level. It's not a record.
Not to be rude, but I don't know that it was necessary to reference this result in as many places as you did (including a reply to a blog about Wash U). Your enthusiasm is appreciated, but keep in mind that there are some places that are better than others to make this reference
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 30, 2008, 01:21:00 AM
Post by: NYBB on January 30, 2008, 01:21:00 AM
i deleted the other posts and asked pat to take down my comment on the blog :( got excited. i've never seen that in sports before
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2008, 08:49:10 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2008, 08:49:10 AM
Results from 1/29
Bard 87, Maritime 77
Farmingdale 109, Purchase 39
MSM 63, Yeshiva 62
Old Westbury 100, MSV 80
St. Joe's 87, Poly 67
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 10-1
St. Joe's 10-1
Old Westbury 9-2
MSM 6-5
Maritime 5-6
MSV 4-7
Bard 3-7
Yeshiva 3-7
Poly 2-9
Purchase 2-9
Bard 87, Maritime 77
Farmingdale 109, Purchase 39
MSM 63, Yeshiva 62
Old Westbury 100, MSV 80
St. Joe's 87, Poly 67
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 10-1
St. Joe's 10-1
Old Westbury 9-2
MSM 6-5
Maritime 5-6
MSV 4-7
Bard 3-7
Yeshiva 3-7
Poly 2-9
Purchase 2-9
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 30, 2008, 10:31:24 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 30, 2008, 10:31:24 AM
NYBB, if 70 point losses are your thing, you should have been a Bard fan back in the ninties.
atnwriter, you have no excuse for being this upset- not the day after JOHAN DAY.
Between Santana and Bard over Maritime, I expected the NY Observer to adopt the MLB minimum salary, and for my wife's clothes to be shredded in a wheat-threshing accident. It was that kind of day.
The Bard Raptors control their playoff destiny. To say this in November is routine- nice to say it as we near February.
atnwriter, you have no excuse for being this upset- not the day after JOHAN DAY.
Between Santana and Bard over Maritime, I expected the NY Observer to adopt the MLB minimum salary, and for my wife's clothes to be shredded in a wheat-threshing accident. It was that kind of day.
The Bard Raptors control their playoff destiny. To say this in November is routine- nice to say it as we near February.
Title: Mount Saint Vincent Mens Hoops
Post by: mountpridemsv on January 30, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
Post by: mountpridemsv on January 30, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
The Mount game last night, vs Old Westbury wasnt nearly as close as the score looked. 100-80 does not look that bad, when you consider the Mount was dominated in every aspect of the game. Old Westbury was doing chin-ups on the rim. It was men vs boys. The Dolphins looked TOTALY unprepared. Anyone who follows the Skline knows Old Westbury struggles when a press is applied? Thats how Yesheva did it earlier in the year!!! A poor gameplan is not a mistake that should fall on players. Did they bother to scout? When's the last time the Mount was competitive in the Skyline? Something isn't right there? What do you guys think? Im afraid the program has dropped soo far off the map that nobody even cares.
Title: Mount Saint Vincent Hoops
Post by: mountpridemsv on January 30, 2008, 12:38:44 PM
Post by: mountpridemsv on January 30, 2008, 12:38:44 PM
Does anybody know what happened to the Owens kid at Mount Saint Vincent? He was in the Top 10 in the nation in assts when stats came out over the holidays. I thought that was an accomplishment. Something the program could build on. I know he got hurt but I now notice he is not even on the Mounts roster? Anybody?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mountpridemsv on January 30, 2008, 05:59:05 PM
Post by: mountpridemsv on January 30, 2008, 05:59:05 PM
Anybody Know what happened to Lester Owens from Mount Saint Vincent? Where is he? He hasnt played a game since first semester? Anybody
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on January 30, 2008, 07:04:39 PM
Post by: CityD3 on January 30, 2008, 07:04:39 PM
dont worry mount pridemsv you still got the jv team to root for lol.... it looks like one of the varsity guys rocco moved down cuz of ineligibility and now they are tied for first in their conference. it aint the skyline but its still something. take some pride in that
Quote from: mountpridemsv on January 30, 2008, 12:27:52 PM
Im afraid the program has dropped soo far off the map that nobody even cares.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 30, 2008, 11:23:21 PM
Post by: NYBB on January 30, 2008, 11:23:21 PM
MSV can't be that bad..joe cooke transferred there
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2008, 09:04:30 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 31, 2008, 09:04:30 AM
There's one Skyline game today: Bard @ Yeshiva. The winner will move into a tie for sixth place with Mount St. Vincent. The loser will go one up on Poly and Purchase. Yeshiva beat Bard, 86-82 in overtime at Bard, earlier this season. After tonight, each team will have seven conference games remaining.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mountpridemsv on January 31, 2008, 09:57:51 AM
Post by: mountpridemsv on January 31, 2008, 09:57:51 AM
CityD3....The MSV JV squad is no joke. my little bro still goes to the Mount and said they got the best shooter around. period. Their league or Skline. He hit like 10 3's a few times. Outscored a team by HIMSELF this season. Plus they dont even play JV teams. All four year schools, and they beat one of them by 75pts!!!! And it was a conf game! They are in first place in their league. My bro says Rocco just didnt want to play varsity anymore. He wanted to play the up and down style of the JV team. The Widgeons kid filled his shoes well anyway. Kids actually attend JV games and have fun. JV could compete in Skyline. Yeah, I said it! The future at MSV could be bright!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 31, 2008, 10:50:12 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 31, 2008, 10:50:12 AM
Yeshiva's the chosen people all right... CHOSEN FOR DOOM!
(The preceeding message is in no way condoning the Rapture.)
Go Raptors!
(The preceeding message is in no way condoning the Rapture.)
Go Raptors!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on January 31, 2008, 11:38:28 AM
Post by: NYBB on January 31, 2008, 11:38:28 AM
lol i like that last comment raptor, no matter how racy it was lol. you can listen to tonight's game on yeshiva's men's bball radio broadcast off their athletics website. they do a great job calling the game
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 31, 2008, 11:39:02 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 31, 2008, 11:39:02 PM
They sure do- thanks for the heads-up! Tough game at Yeshiva- sometimes the shots just don't fall.
St. Joe's on Saturday away, which would be a nice win- they took St. Joe's to the wire earlier this year, actually led at halftime. And then, of course, big game hosting MSV on 2/6.
Should be an interesting week.
St. Joe's on Saturday away, which would be a nice win- they took St. Joe's to the wire earlier this year, actually led at halftime. And then, of course, big game hosting MSV on 2/6.
Should be an interesting week.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2008, 09:32:14 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2008, 09:32:14 AM
Result from 1/31
Yeshiva 65, Bard 47
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 10-1
St. Joe's 10-1
Old Westbury 9-2
MSM 6-5
Maritime 5-6
MSV 4-7
Yeshiva 4-7
Bard 3-8
Poly 2-9
Purchase 2-9
Yeshiva 65, Bard 47
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 10-1
St. Joe's 10-1
Old Westbury 9-2
MSM 6-5
Maritime 5-6
MSV 4-7
Yeshiva 4-7
Bard 3-8
Poly 2-9
Purchase 2-9
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on February 01, 2008, 07:07:16 PM
Post by: CityD3 on February 01, 2008, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: mountpridemsv on January 31, 2008, 09:57:51 AM
CityD3....The MSV JV squad is no joke. my little bro still goes to the Mount and said they got the best shooter around. period. Their league or Skline. He hit like 10 3's a few times. Outscored a team by HIMSELF this season. Plus they dont even play JV teams. All four year schools, and they beat one of them by 75pts!!!! And it was a conf game! They are in first place in their league. My bro says Rocco just didnt want to play varsity anymore. He wanted to play the up and down style of the JV team. The Widgeons kid filled his shoes well anyway. Kids actually attend JV games and have fun. JV could compete in Skyline. Yeah, I said it! The future at MSV could be bright!
pride...i believe the four year school that u speak of is pratt and i saw pratt play a few years ago it looked like the kids on the team never touched a basketball in their lives...beating them by 75 points just means that they have no class and were runnin up the score. and if kids on the team could compete in the skyline why wouldn't the program force them to play on the varsity to help them make the NCAA's. and wouldn't the kids want to play at a higher level, especially if they belong there. that makes absolutlely no sense.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 01, 2008, 08:33:28 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 01, 2008, 08:33:28 PM
discouraging a JV program in a post is really stupid. I think it's fantastic that MSV has a JV program because it encourages kids to play basketball. I actually think the HVAC, the conference the JV plays in with Pratt, Sarah Lawrence, St. Joe's of Brooklyn & Berkeley College is great : the more people playing basketball, the better!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mountpridemsv on February 01, 2008, 09:46:14 PM
Post by: mountpridemsv on February 01, 2008, 09:46:14 PM
"pride...i believe the four year school that u speak of is pratt and i saw pratt play a few years ago it looked like the kids on the team never touched a basketball in their lives...beating them by 75 points just means that they have no class and were runnin up the score. and if kids on the team could compete in the skyline why wouldn't the program force them to play on the varsity to help them make the NCAA's. and wouldn't the kids want to play at a higher level, especially if they belong there. that makes absolutlely no sense" - Cityd3
I admit I havent been to a JV game...takin my brothers word. Until I dug deeper. Maybe you should do the same? Here are some of the Mount's JV headlines on their website:
JV Basketball earns 62-45 win over SUNY-Ulster
Dejesus posts 28 points in the win
Men's JV Basketball sweeps HVMAC Weekly awards
Akridge, Soto honored by the league
JV Basketball's Erasmo Soto named HVMAC Basketball Rookie of the Week
Rookie netted 23 points in upset win over St. Joseph's-Brooklyn
JV Basketball knocks-off Mohawk Valley Community College
Akridge leads the Mount with 25 points
Mount Saint Vincent JV downs St. Joseph's-Brooklyn 83-68
Soto leads the way with 23 points
So Cityd3. Iguuess you were partly correct. Why arent these guys on varsity? Looks like more than crushin pratt. Mix these guys with freshman starting on varsity. a new era. LIKE I SAID...........THE FUTURE AT MSV COULD BE BRIGHT!!!
I admit I havent been to a JV game...takin my brothers word. Until I dug deeper. Maybe you should do the same? Here are some of the Mount's JV headlines on their website:
JV Basketball earns 62-45 win over SUNY-Ulster
Dejesus posts 28 points in the win
Men's JV Basketball sweeps HVMAC Weekly awards
Akridge, Soto honored by the league
JV Basketball's Erasmo Soto named HVMAC Basketball Rookie of the Week
Rookie netted 23 points in upset win over St. Joseph's-Brooklyn
JV Basketball knocks-off Mohawk Valley Community College
Akridge leads the Mount with 25 points
Mount Saint Vincent JV downs St. Joseph's-Brooklyn 83-68
Soto leads the way with 23 points
So Cityd3. Iguuess you were partly correct. Why arent these guys on varsity? Looks like more than crushin pratt. Mix these guys with freshman starting on varsity. a new era. LIKE I SAID...........THE FUTURE AT MSV COULD BE BRIGHT!!!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 01, 2008, 11:29:49 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 01, 2008, 11:29:49 PM
The only way MSV is going to break through to become a winning team and then an elite team is if they start getting the top notch recruits. Right now, nobody in the skyline is getting any of those.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2008, 09:05:44 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2008, 09:05:44 AM
Today's Skyline Schedule
Bard (3-7) at St. Joe's (10-1)
Maritime (5-6) at MSV (4-7)
Purchase (2-9) at MSM (6-5)
Old Westbury (9-2) at Farmingdale (10-1)
Poly (2-9) at Yeshiva (4-7)
Premier matchup is Old Westbury at Farmingdale. OW won the first meeting, 97-83, in double overtime.
Bard (3-7) at St. Joe's (10-1)
Maritime (5-6) at MSV (4-7)
Purchase (2-9) at MSM (6-5)
Old Westbury (9-2) at Farmingdale (10-1)
Poly (2-9) at Yeshiva (4-7)
Premier matchup is Old Westbury at Farmingdale. OW won the first meeting, 97-83, in double overtime.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on February 02, 2008, 06:51:31 PM
Post by: CityD3 on February 02, 2008, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: NYBB on February 01, 2008, 08:33:28 PM
discouraging a JV program in a post is really stupid.
i wasn't discouraging the JV program. i think its great that more kids get to play i was just responding to a comment that says the mount saint vincent future is bright because their JV team won a feew games. embarrasing a team by 75 points does not imply a bright future. thats all im sayin.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2008, 10:44:47 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 02, 2008, 10:44:47 PM
Maritime 68, Mount Saint Vincent 65
Maritime
Tim Dougherty 16 pts
Giovanni Hurley 12 pts
Joseph Bracaglia 10 pts
MSV
Joe Cooke 16 pts
Kevin Garlan 14 pts
Derek Charlton 13 pts
Maritime led almost the entire way but nearly blew this game. The Privateers led 35-21 at the half and increased the lead to 46-26 with 15 minutes remaining. Then the Dolphins began to press and Maritime wilted. MSV briefly took the lead by one with seven minutes remaining but couldn't hold it. The game still went down to the final seconds. MSV had a chance to take the lead with 7 seconds remaining but Derek Charlton failed to convert an offensive rebound. Jamal Webb then hit two free throws to put Maritime up by three. The game ended when Dino Johnson missed a 30 footer just before time expired.
Maritime
Tim Dougherty 16 pts
Giovanni Hurley 12 pts
Joseph Bracaglia 10 pts
MSV
Joe Cooke 16 pts
Kevin Garlan 14 pts
Derek Charlton 13 pts
Maritime led almost the entire way but nearly blew this game. The Privateers led 35-21 at the half and increased the lead to 46-26 with 15 minutes remaining. Then the Dolphins began to press and Maritime wilted. MSV briefly took the lead by one with seven minutes remaining but couldn't hold it. The game still went down to the final seconds. MSV had a chance to take the lead with 7 seconds remaining but Derek Charlton failed to convert an offensive rebound. Jamal Webb then hit two free throws to put Maritime up by three. The game ended when Dino Johnson missed a 30 footer just before time expired.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 03, 2008, 12:17:56 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 03, 2008, 12:17:56 AM
I can't believe Yeshiva is going to hold the 6th and final playoff spot...they just don't have the team this year. It's going to be a battle down to the end for that final spot!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2008, 09:21:31 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 03, 2008, 09:21:31 AM
Yeshiva is down a bit this year, but they still might be able to hold that last spot. Also, the battle for #1 is interesting. Farmingdale has been on a tear and St. Joe's is hanging right with them. It should be noted that the Golden Eagle's have been without the services of Chris Niblock for the last two games. I don't know how long he'll be out.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 04, 2008, 12:03:06 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 04, 2008, 12:03:06 AM
i am so upset : perfection in sports is screwed.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 06, 2008, 08:21:02 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 06, 2008, 08:21:02 AM
Today's Skyline Games:
MSV (4-8) @ Bard (3-7)
Poly (2-10) @ Farmingdale (11-1)
St. Joe's (11-1) @ Old Westbury (9-3)
Yeshiva (5-7) @ Purchase (2-10)
MSV (4-8) @ Bard (3-7)
Poly (2-10) @ Farmingdale (11-1)
St. Joe's (11-1) @ Old Westbury (9-3)
Yeshiva (5-7) @ Purchase (2-10)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 07, 2008, 06:49:11 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 07, 2008, 06:49:11 AM
Results from 2/6
Farmingdale 93, Poly 70
MSV 122, Bard 68
OW 85, St. Joe's 76
Yeshiva 61, Purchase 60
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 12-1
St. Joe's 11-2
OW 10-3
MSM 7-5
Maritime 6-6
Yeshiva 6-7
MSV 5-8
Bard 3-10
Poly 2-11
Purchase 2-11
Farmingdale 93, Poly 70
MSV 122, Bard 68
OW 85, St. Joe's 76
Yeshiva 61, Purchase 60
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 12-1
St. Joe's 11-2
OW 10-3
MSM 7-5
Maritime 6-6
Yeshiva 6-7
MSV 5-8
Bard 3-10
Poly 2-11
Purchase 2-11
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 07, 2008, 02:15:04 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 07, 2008, 02:15:04 PM
Looks like the 6 that are in place are going to be the 6 in the playoffs. MSV has a chance but we'll see.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2008, 10:10:43 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 10, 2008, 10:10:43 AM
Scores from 2/9
Bard 90, Purchase 68
Farmingdale 81, Maritime 55
MSM 80, MSV 73
OW 83, Poly 67
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 13-1
St. Joe's 11-2
OW 11-3
MSM 8-5
Maritime 6-7
Yeshiva 6-7
MSV 5-9
Bard 4-10
Poly 2-12
Purchase 2-12
Bard 90, Purchase 68
Farmingdale 81, Maritime 55
MSM 80, MSV 73
OW 83, Poly 67
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 13-1
St. Joe's 11-2
OW 11-3
MSM 8-5
Maritime 6-7
Yeshiva 6-7
MSV 5-9
Bard 4-10
Poly 2-12
Purchase 2-12
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pryme0bjective on February 11, 2008, 12:56:36 PM
Post by: Pryme0bjective on February 11, 2008, 12:56:36 PM
Looks like farmingdale has hit there stride. i saw the maritime game it wasn't there best but they still won by 25. i don't see anyone else stopping santana, shannon, and lipka.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 11, 2008, 02:23:30 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 11, 2008, 02:23:30 PM
i have seen poly play a couple of times and i have to say i am surprised they havent done very well. They have some good bigs, good guards and a couple of real shooters. Seems like they have a problem digging in on the Defensive end though and stopping someone. I have to say they are a talented team, but they need to make a committment to "D" if theyre going anywhere in the skyline in the near future.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 11, 2008, 03:22:19 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 11, 2008, 03:22:19 PM
Poly's problem is a lack of discipline, lack of good coaching.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 11, 2008, 04:21:13 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 11, 2008, 04:21:13 PM
Quote from: NYBB on February 11, 2008, 03:22:19 PM
Poly's problem is a lack of discipline, lack of good coaching.
first year coach taking over a dismal program who has never won anything and had what 1 win last year? Brought in some really good players and has a track record of making programs better?
(ccny - Kingsborough - D2 Dowling)
I think blaming coaching in year 1 of a complete program/mentality overhaul at a school like poly is a little ridiculous. With nothing but freshman it is tough to battle bards and purchases (youll have your chance for them next year right??)
let alone farmingdales and westbury's.
You seem to have some very strong opinions and know alot about d3 basketball and personnel for a high school senior.
I think you jumped the gun with your assessment on this one though kiddo.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 11, 2008, 07:21:42 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 11, 2008, 07:21:42 PM
Quote from: Pryme0bjective on February 11, 2008, 12:56:36 PMFarmingdale is playing very well right now. No doubt the Rams are the team to beat. It looks like the only two teams with any chance to stop them are St. Joe's and Old Westbury.
Looks like farmingdale has hit there stride. i saw the maritime game it wasn't there best but they still won by 25. i don't see anyone else stopping santana, shannon, and lipka.
Quote from: BklynBasketball on February 11, 2008, 04:21:13 PMQuote from: NYBB on February 11, 2008, 03:22:19 PM
Poly's problem is a lack of discipline, lack of good coaching.
first year coach taking over a dismal program who has never won anything and had what 1 win last year? Brought in some really good players and has a track record of making programs better?
(ccny - Kingsborough - D2 Dowling)
I think blaming coaching in year 1 of a complete program/mentality overhaul at a school like poly is a little ridiculous. With nothing but freshman it is tough to battle bards and purchases (youll have your chance for them next year right??)
let alone farmingdales and westbury's.
You seem to have some very strong opinions and know alot about d3 basketball and personnel for a high school senior.
I think you jumped the gun with your assessment on this one though kiddo.
I wouldn't blame Nigro because it's his first year and he has a very young team. He did bring in a fair amount of young talent. This team is certainly better than the Poly teams I saw years ago. Anyway, you know you've taken over a pretty weak program when the coach needs a couple of years to be competitive with Albany Pharmacy, Bard and Purchase.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 11, 2008, 11:08:36 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 11, 2008, 11:08:36 PM
All i know is a lot of my friends graduated from Poly and never liked the school or the athletic program there. The coaches come and go every year and the school has absolutely no consistent administration.
the last thing i heard about Polytech is that the whole school is being engulfed by NYU sooo...
Also, Purchase had their coach replaced mid season and they're not looking very good at all. A loss to them is silly.
I have no doubt that what you're saying about the Poly coach is correct and i'm sure they will have a good program in the future but let's wait and see : most of the guys on Poly teams in the past have failed off/out and the coaches (not just hoops) have left for other schools. that's all i'm saying. also, if i'm at SUNY next year, make sure to come and say "hello"!
the last thing i heard about Polytech is that the whole school is being engulfed by NYU sooo...
Also, Purchase had their coach replaced mid season and they're not looking very good at all. A loss to them is silly.
I have no doubt that what you're saying about the Poly coach is correct and i'm sure they will have a good program in the future but let's wait and see : most of the guys on Poly teams in the past have failed off/out and the coaches (not just hoops) have left for other schools. that's all i'm saying. also, if i'm at SUNY next year, make sure to come and say "hello"!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 12, 2008, 08:13:29 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 12, 2008, 08:13:29 AM
Quote from: NYBB on February 11, 2008, 11:08:36 PM
All i know is a lot of my friends graduated from Poly and never liked the school or the athletic program there. The coaches come and go every year and the school has absolutely no consistent administration.
the last thing i heard about Polytech is that the whole school is being engulfed by NYU sooo...
Also, Purchase had their coach replaced mid season and they're not looking very good at all. A loss to them is silly.
I have no doubt that what you're saying about the Poly coach is correct and i'm sure they will have a good program in the future but let's wait and see : most of the guys on Poly teams in the past have failed off/out and the coaches (not just hoops) have left for other schools. that's all i'm saying. also, if i'm at SUNY next year, make sure to come and say "hello"!
The coach before Dan Nigro was there for about 20 years, so that point you m ade is invalid.
Next, players have never been known to fail off at Poly, I have a few friends who played there and while they always stunk, their players were always dedicated students who did well in all their classes.
Losing to Purchase was definitely not a good look, but, Purchase does havesome decent talent, and thats why we play the games, because on any given night any team can beat any team.
The NYU subject is up in the air, however it seems doubtful to me seeing as how they just recently built that gym, and completed the NCAA process, entered a conference, only to sell the school to NYU? seems odd to me.
NYBB where do you play right now?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Danny Weismuller on February 12, 2008, 11:31:20 AM
Post by: Danny Weismuller on February 12, 2008, 11:31:20 AM
I agree with BKYLN bball....
I don't think most kids fail off in that school.
Also You have to give the coach some credit as Poly was traditional terrible for years... At least it looks like they have some reasons to be optimistic since they have some nice young talent.
BK...
what's going on? any talks of getting the bears in the skyline.
They could def compete in any of the local conferences.
I don't think most kids fail off in that school.
Also You have to give the coach some credit as Poly was traditional terrible for years... At least it looks like they have some reasons to be optimistic since they have some nice young talent.
BK...
what's going on? any talks of getting the bears in the skyline.
They could def compete in any of the local conferences.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mountpridemsv on February 12, 2008, 03:03:06 PM
Post by: mountpridemsv on February 12, 2008, 03:03:06 PM
Hey good call. You're right on point with comment about bears(BK). St Joes Brooklyn could surely contend in skyline. Especially with added exposure they would get by being in skyline. They already have a top notch coach. he would get some great recruits to complement what he's already built. no doubt. believe it or not. both MSV JV and Berkley College team would put up a hell of a fight in skyline too. As Ive said in past, my bro goes to MSV. Has Friends on JV. Ive seen all three teams play. gotta give credit where its due. Top three teams in HVMAC could all compete elswhere!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 12, 2008, 03:17:01 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 12, 2008, 03:17:01 PM
I am not in HS, i actually coach a HS team. As for St. Joe's BK, they should be in the Skyline conference but is the conference accepting new teams? It would seem to me that with the four additions (Purchase, Poly, Rus Sage, Bard), they wouldn't be looking to add new squads.
i think it's great that St. Joe's plays in that small conference with Berkeley, MSV's JV, Sarah Lawrence, etc. but they do belong in an official D3.
Also, I was not talking about Poly Hoops as much as i was talking about their baseball team and other programs where I KNOW for a fact that players have failed off. Also, Purchase has talent? they have 2 good basketball players and an extremely strong big man. Outside of that, hmmmm.
i think it's great that St. Joe's plays in that small conference with Berkeley, MSV's JV, Sarah Lawrence, etc. but they do belong in an official D3.
Also, I was not talking about Poly Hoops as much as i was talking about their baseball team and other programs where I KNOW for a fact that players have failed off. Also, Purchase has talent? they have 2 good basketball players and an extremely strong big man. Outside of that, hmmmm.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2008, 08:33:48 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 12, 2008, 08:33:48 PM
Quote from: mountpridemsv on February 12, 2008, 03:03:06 PM
believe it or not. both MSV JV and Berkley College team would put up a hell of a fight in skyline too. Top three teams in HVMAC could all compete elswhere!
Berkeley College is 0-3 vs. Skyline teams this year. They lost to St. Joe's 89-45, MSM 88-46, and Yeshiva 71-40. Recently they lost to Montclair State 97-28. It looks like they're not quite ready for prime time.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 12, 2008, 10:45:59 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 12, 2008, 10:45:59 PM
No, that team is not but i think it's GREAT that they have a team and i support organized basketball in colleges as much as possible; the fact that Berkeley, Sarah Lawrence, etc. have teams is great!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2008, 08:41:24 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2008, 08:41:24 AM
I agree with you 100%. I believe that all the small colleges should have varsity programs while emphasizing the importance of academics at the same time.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2008, 09:01:23 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 13, 2008, 09:01:23 AM
I didn't see this one but Farmingdale State beat NYC Tech, 104-59, last night in Brooklyn. It was the Rams' 13th consecutive victory, the longest in school history. I'm not surprised that Farmingdale won, but the margin of victory is far more than I expected. I wonder how long City Tech's starters played. Their focus has to be on Saturday's game at Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 13, 2008, 01:02:15 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 13, 2008, 01:02:15 PM
City Tech has two good players and a lot of weak roleplayers. Farmingdale is coming into their own and i think, may be an upset team in the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 14, 2008, 01:34:48 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 14, 2008, 01:34:48 AM
Wow...the skyline standings are a lot tighter than i thought. Between MSV, Yeshiva & Maritime, i think it's going to be exciting.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 14, 2008, 09:42:23 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 14, 2008, 09:42:23 AM
Let me just add my hope that St. Joe's of Brooklyn joins the Skyline as well- a classy program run by a classy coach.
Big game tonight for Bard- underdogs to be sure, but a win would bring them back into the playoff discussion, and stopping a 13-game winning streak would really put the Raptors on the map.
Big game tonight for Bard- underdogs to be sure, but a win would bring them back into the playoff discussion, and stopping a 13-game winning streak would really put the Raptors on the map.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 14, 2008, 05:06:06 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 14, 2008, 05:06:06 PM
what happened to your big man McGinn? He hasn't been playing...that sure hurts them.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 14, 2008, 09:39:21 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 14, 2008, 09:39:21 PM
why is SUNY-Purchase not listed in the teams section of the D3hoops.com atlantic page?
Also, Purchase has two players who would be eligible for the NCAA statistic leaderboard but neither of them are listed. Why is this?
Also, Purchase has two players who would be eligible for the NCAA statistic leaderboard but neither of them are listed. Why is this?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 14, 2008, 10:35:53 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 14, 2008, 10:35:53 PM
SUNY- Purchase is in the East region, not the Atlantic.
As far as the stats go, maybe Purchase's players are not recognized because the team is a provisional NCAA D3 member.
As far as the stats go, maybe Purchase's players are not recognized because the team is a provisional NCAA D3 member.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 15, 2008, 08:23:37 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 15, 2008, 08:23:37 AM
Results from 2/14
Farmingdale 105, Bard 66
Poly 90, MSM 72
St. Joe's 112, MSV 108
Maritime @ Purchase
Farmingdale keeps rolling, routing Bard. Poly pulls off an upset, winning easily at home against MSM. St. Joe's holds on against MSV. No score on Maritime @ Purchase.
Farmingdale 105, Bard 66
Poly 90, MSM 72
St. Joe's 112, MSV 108
Maritime @ Purchase
Farmingdale keeps rolling, routing Bard. Poly pulls off an upset, winning easily at home against MSM. St. Joe's holds on against MSV. No score on Maritime @ Purchase.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 15, 2008, 02:51:19 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 15, 2008, 02:51:19 PM
how long is purchase going to be a provisional? they've been playing in a D3 conference for at least three seasons now
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 15, 2008, 04:35:51 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 15, 2008, 04:35:51 PM
You have to fulfill all the requirements of the four-year provisional process. Some schools can do it in three while others need five.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 15, 2008, 05:04:53 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 15, 2008, 05:04:53 PM
so i'm going to assume that Purchase is an official D3 school next season?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2008, 12:01:49 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2008, 12:01:49 AM
Skyline Standings
Farmingdale 14-1
St. Joe's 13-2
OW 12-3
Maritime 8-7
MSM 8-7
Yeshiva 6-9
MSV 5-10
Bard 4-11
Poly 3-12
Purchase 2-13
Maritime beat Purchase 69-62 Thursday night. It was the fifth straight loss for Purchase. Farmingdale looks unbeatable but first place is still up for grabs. The Rams will take on St. Joe's in Patchogue on Feb 20. The sixth and final playoff spot is also unsettled. MSV, the seventh place team, has an easier schedule than sixth place Yeshiva, and will face the Maccabees in Washington Heights on Feb 20.
Farmingdale 14-1
St. Joe's 13-2
OW 12-3
Maritime 8-7
MSM 8-7
Yeshiva 6-9
MSV 5-10
Bard 4-11
Poly 3-12
Purchase 2-13
Maritime beat Purchase 69-62 Thursday night. It was the fifth straight loss for Purchase. Farmingdale looks unbeatable but first place is still up for grabs. The Rams will take on St. Joe's in Patchogue on Feb 20. The sixth and final playoff spot is also unsettled. MSV, the seventh place team, has an easier schedule than sixth place Yeshiva, and will face the Maccabees in Washington Heights on Feb 20.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 16, 2008, 09:38:56 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 16, 2008, 09:38:56 AM
If only Bard had converted one more posession, and beaten Yeshiva earlier this year- there would be a three-way tie for the final spot.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2008, 10:44:30 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 16, 2008, 10:44:30 AM
Here's a breakdown of the three teams competing for the final playoff spot:
Yeshiva (6-9)
MSV (5-10)
Bard (4-11)
If you eliminate their games against Farmingdale, St. Joe's and Old Westbury:
Yeshiva (5-5)
MSV (5-4)
Bard (4-5)
If you eliminate their games against Poly and Purchase:
Yeshiva (2-4)
MSV (4-3)
Bard (1-5)
Record vs. top five teams:
Yeshiva (1-7)
MSV (1-9)
Bard (1-7)
Head to head:
Yeshiva (2-1)
MSV (3-0)
Bard (0-4)
Conference wins (in order):
Yeshiva: Poly, Bard, OW, Bard, Poly, Purchase
MSV: MSM, Bard, Yeshiva, Purchase, Bard
Bard: Purchase, Poly, Maritime, Purchase
Yeshiva (6-9)
MSV (5-10)
Bard (4-11)
If you eliminate their games against Farmingdale, St. Joe's and Old Westbury:
Yeshiva (5-5)
MSV (5-4)
Bard (4-5)
If you eliminate their games against Poly and Purchase:
Yeshiva (2-4)
MSV (4-3)
Bard (1-5)
Record vs. top five teams:
Yeshiva (1-7)
MSV (1-9)
Bard (1-7)
Head to head:
Yeshiva (2-1)
MSV (3-0)
Bard (0-4)
Conference wins (in order):
Yeshiva: Poly, Bard, OW, Bard, Poly, Purchase
MSV: MSM, Bard, Yeshiva, Purchase, Bard
Bard: Purchase, Poly, Maritime, Purchase
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 17, 2008, 02:19:26 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 17, 2008, 02:19:26 AM
MSV has the easiest remaining schedule and they will secure the 6th spot.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2008, 10:42:10 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2008, 10:42:10 PM
Results from 2/16
Farmingdale 92, MSM 60
Maritime 63, Yeshiva 60
Old Westbury 86, Bard 83
Poly 75, MSV 74
St. Joe's 74, Purchase 59
Farmingdale wins their 15th in a row. Maritime takes hold of fourth place with a win over Yeshiva. Old Westbury prevails over Bard. Poly sweeps MSV with a buzzer-beater. St. Joe's stays one game up on Old Westbury and one game behind Farmingdale with a win over Purchase.
Farmingdale 92, MSM 60
Maritime 63, Yeshiva 60
Old Westbury 86, Bard 83
Poly 75, MSV 74
St. Joe's 74, Purchase 59
Farmingdale wins their 15th in a row. Maritime takes hold of fourth place with a win over Yeshiva. Old Westbury prevails over Bard. Poly sweeps MSV with a buzzer-beater. St. Joe's stays one game up on Old Westbury and one game behind Farmingdale with a win over Purchase.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 18, 2008, 03:16:22 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 18, 2008, 03:16:22 AM
the Yeshiva v. MSV upcoming game is going to determine the final spot. Sick.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 18, 2008, 12:21:52 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 18, 2008, 12:21:52 PM
Bard had some close calls this season that didn't go their way. But I am happy to see proof on the court that they certainly can compete in this league. Four wins, but seven other single-digit losses... Exciting times ahead for the Raptors.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 18, 2008, 02:00:04 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 18, 2008, 02:00:04 PM
how is it exciting times for bard? they're losing arrocho & washington!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 20, 2008, 09:40:28 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 20, 2008, 09:40:28 AM
There's a full slate tonight:
Bard @ MSM
Farmingdale @ St. Joe's
Maritime @ Poly
MSV @ Yeshiva
Purchase @ OW
MSM needs a win to stay in contention for fourth place...Farmingdale goes for their 16th win in a row. A St. Joe's win will put them in a first-place tie with the Rams...Poly goes for their third straight victory...An MSV win will tie them with Yeshiva for the final playoff spot...Purchase, a decided underdog, looks to snap a six-game losing streak.
Bard @ MSM
Farmingdale @ St. Joe's
Maritime @ Poly
MSV @ Yeshiva
Purchase @ OW
MSM needs a win to stay in contention for fourth place...Farmingdale goes for their 16th win in a row. A St. Joe's win will put them in a first-place tie with the Rams...Poly goes for their third straight victory...An MSV win will tie them with Yeshiva for the final playoff spot...Purchase, a decided underdog, looks to snap a six-game losing streak.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 20, 2008, 12:32:15 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 20, 2008, 12:32:15 PM
If Yeshiva wins, they are guranteed the final spot. If MSV wins, they will be tied with Yeshiva and the final game will determine the 6th seed.
However, that final game for Yeshiva is against Farmingdale so that's an improbable win and MSV plays Purchase so for Yeshiva to lock it up, they should really just try to win it tonight.
However, that final game for Yeshiva is against Farmingdale so that's an improbable win and MSV plays Purchase so for Yeshiva to lock it up, they should really just try to win it tonight.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 20, 2008, 01:54:12 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 20, 2008, 01:54:12 PM
NYBB, while Bard is losing 3 terrific players in Washington, Arocho and McGinn, they return 11, none of whom will even be seniors. Add in a good recruiting class, and Bard will win a number of the close ones next year. But even now, playing the toughest schedule Bard has ever had, and doing so competitively, just continues the monumental growth of the program. And this is, of course, very exciting.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 20, 2008, 02:50:14 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 20, 2008, 02:50:14 PM
absolutely. and considering bard made the switch with Poly & Purchase, they're in the better position out of the three to do something and, on top of that, have performed the best of the three this season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 20, 2008, 04:52:18 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 20, 2008, 04:52:18 PM
That said, I am genuinely sorry to see all three go. Demitrius is a tremendous leader and basketball player, Ray is probably the best pure shooter I've ever seen at Bard, and Trevor is the consummate Bardian, both on and off the court, that I have experienced in my ten years associated with the school.
I get to see all three perform for the last time tonight (I am unable to attend Saturday). I do so with a great deal of sadness.
I get to see all three perform for the last time tonight (I am unable to attend Saturday). I do so with a great deal of sadness.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 20, 2008, 06:30:57 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 20, 2008, 06:30:57 PM
how are you affiliated with the school? I was looking there when i was applying out of HS but the lack of a baseball team bothered me.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 20, 2008, 11:13:19 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 20, 2008, 11:13:19 PM
I am a proud alum, the former voice of the Raptors, and the curator of Raptormania!, a fan site devoted to Bard College basketball.
I have been looking for the one stat that will fully explain the growth of the Bard basketball program. Tonight, the Mt. St. Mary's athletic department supplied it.
Since 1991-92, the two schools have played 11 times. Bard was 0-11, with an average margin of victory for Mt. St. Mary's of 46.2 points.
Tonight? Bard 103, Mt. St. Mary's 100, at MSM.
I have been looking for the one stat that will fully explain the growth of the Bard basketball program. Tonight, the Mt. St. Mary's athletic department supplied it.
Since 1991-92, the two schools have played 11 times. Bard was 0-11, with an average margin of victory for Mt. St. Mary's of 46.2 points.
Tonight? Bard 103, Mt. St. Mary's 100, at MSM.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 21, 2008, 01:44:29 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 21, 2008, 01:44:29 AM
haha awesome and with Yeshiva's win tonight, they have officially sealed the 6th seed and have eliminated Mt. St. Vincent from playoff contention. Excellent job Yeshiva!
As for Bard, they have put MSM in a difficult spot to get the 4th seed and avoid a matchup with St. Joe's or Farmingdale.
As for Bard, they have put MSM in a difficult spot to get the 4th seed and avoid a matchup with St. Joe's or Farmingdale.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 21, 2008, 08:41:58 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 21, 2008, 08:41:58 AM
Results from 2/20
Bard 103, MSM 100 (OT)
Poly 70, Maritime 63
OW 96, Purchase 45
St. Joe's 91, Farmingdale 81
Yeshiva 63, MSV 55
Bard comes up with a big win at home...Poly wins their third in a row...OW stays one game behind Farmingdale and St. Joe's...St. Joe's snaps Farmingdale's 15-game win streak and moves into a first place tie with the Rams...Yeshiva clinches the sixth and final playoff spot.
Bard, MSV and Poly are all 5-12...Apart from Old Westbury's loss to Yeshiva, Farmingdale, St. Joe's and OW have not lost a game to any of the other seven teams in the conference this year.
Bard 103, MSM 100 (OT)
Poly 70, Maritime 63
OW 96, Purchase 45
St. Joe's 91, Farmingdale 81
Yeshiva 63, MSV 55
Bard comes up with a big win at home...Poly wins their third in a row...OW stays one game behind Farmingdale and St. Joe's...St. Joe's snaps Farmingdale's 15-game win streak and moves into a first place tie with the Rams...Yeshiva clinches the sixth and final playoff spot.
Bard, MSV and Poly are all 5-12...Apart from Old Westbury's loss to Yeshiva, Farmingdale, St. Joe's and OW have not lost a game to any of the other seven teams in the conference this year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 21, 2008, 11:14:33 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 21, 2008, 11:14:33 AM
Rhodes- I beg to differ- Bard's win came on the road! In the harsh environs of Newburgh! Overcame the lusty cheers of Newburgers!!!
BARD'S BIG ROAD WIN.
BARD'S BIG ROAD WIN.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 21, 2008, 04:50:24 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 21, 2008, 04:50:24 PM
Newburghers lol! I love the energy my man!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on February 21, 2008, 05:26:08 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on February 21, 2008, 05:26:08 PM
Quote from: Raptormania! on February 21, 2008, 11:14:33 AM
Rhodes- I beg to differ- Bard's win came on the road! In the harsh environs of Newburgh! Overcame the lusty cheers of Newburgers!!!
BARD'S BIG ROAD WIN.
I drove through Newburgh once, it was closed.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 22, 2008, 11:06:47 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 22, 2008, 11:06:47 AM
You know why, Knightstalker? Because Wednesday night, the Raptors delcared Newburgh "officially closed."
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: msmc alumni on February 22, 2008, 08:39:23 PM
Post by: msmc alumni on February 22, 2008, 08:39:23 PM
I was in the gym for that game between MSMC and bard, and going into that game you just knew msmc was going to lose. They only beat bard by about 8 when they played at bard in the hudson valley tip-off. Msmc got beat on the boards, but the lose doesnt belong to msmc I would place it on the coaches. We have more coaches on the bench of that college then players. None of them do anything and Coach Duane Davis is still putting his team together how he sees and by not picking up the best athletes at the tryouts. He kept the captin (charles Morris) on the bench the whole game. If you look at the stats charles plays very little but when he does come in he is more productive on Defense and rebounding along with scoring then Matt Cunningham and Alex Kuchar. Matt cunningham started the game yesterday and hasnt been productive at all. Alex Kuchar is a great scorer but doesn't play any defense, He is coming from centenary college where he shoot 1/3 of the teams total shoots. Looking back on his stats he has never shot 40% in any of his games expect 2 while at centenary college. Coach needs to count on Tim morris to get it done, he needs alot more touches on the ball. Coach kept Tim on the bench the whole second half. It is time for coach davis to retire, just like in D-1 when you start losing games that you shouldnt lose it is Time to go. The mount is losing recruits by the minute, I have never went to a game that wasnt packed, the attendance at this game was maybe 75 people. About 45 of them were for bard, But I want to let everyone know that the bard game was the best game Ive seen in a while. Bards guard justin White is the future, hopefully he has more years to play for them. I would say the best point gurad in the skyline conference hands down.
Overall the mount is washed up, Coach davis needs to start recruiting from the area he is in, Section 1 high school basketball is some of the best basketball in NY state. Coach davis has yet to send a recruitment letter to a section 1 prosepect. His time is over.
Overall the mount is washed up, Coach davis needs to start recruiting from the area he is in, Section 1 high school basketball is some of the best basketball in NY state. Coach davis has yet to send a recruitment letter to a section 1 prosepect. His time is over.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 23, 2008, 01:42:26 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 23, 2008, 01:42:26 AM
Hah i love that someone finally noticed that stat about Kuchar shooting 1/3rd of Centenary's shots last year. "The dude only shoots and plays no D" is also a correct assessment.
As for their team, losing Hoyt just put them in the dumps. They'll lose their first game in the Skyline tournament and then not make the cut next season.
Justin White however, is very talented. If Bard could get a few decent 6'4'' athletic guys to compliment him, they could be pretty good from here on out.
As for their team, losing Hoyt just put them in the dumps. They'll lose their first game in the Skyline tournament and then not make the cut next season.
Justin White however, is very talented. If Bard could get a few decent 6'4'' athletic guys to compliment him, they could be pretty good from here on out.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 23, 2008, 12:09:17 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 23, 2008, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: NYBB on February 23, 2008, 01:42:26 AM
As for their team, losing Hoyt just put them in the dumps.
Actually, MSM has a little better record this year than last year.
2007: 9-16, 6-10
2008: 11-13, 8-9
Hoyt was a very good player but I don't know if the way their offense was structured last year was a good idea or not.
I agree with both of you about Justin White. He looked very good against Poly.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: msmc alumni on February 23, 2008, 06:20:47 PM
Post by: msmc alumni on February 23, 2008, 06:20:47 PM
yes they did only win 9 games last year in a great skyline conference, but this year the three teams that came in the league poly, bard and purchase have a combine record of about 10 wins and 66 loses last year. I think the mount should have finished with more wins then just 2 more then last year, they dropped about 6 games by 5 points or less. The mount should be ranked 3 in the skyline but bad coaching and bad offense.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 11:07:11 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 11:07:11 AM
I wouldn't call last year's Skyline Conference "great," although it was certainly much better than this year's version. I haven't seen MSM play this year so I can't say if they're underachieving or not. Also how can you say MSM should have finished ahead of Old Westbury? The Panthers finished 15-3, one game behind Farmingdale and St. Joe's.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 24, 2008, 11:07:49 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 24, 2008, 11:07:49 AM
next year's skyline will be much better...i promise.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 11:15:01 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 11:15:01 AM
Why will it be much better?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 11:19:00 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 11:19:00 AM
Final Standings
Farmingdale St. 16-2
St. Joseph's 16-2
Old Westbury 15-3
Maritime 9-9
Mount St. Mary 8-10
Yeshiva 7-11
Mount St. Vincent 6-12
Polytechnic 6-12
Bard 5-13
Purchase 2-16
Farmingdale St. 16-2
St. Joseph's 16-2
Old Westbury 15-3
Maritime 9-9
Mount St. Mary 8-10
Yeshiva 7-11
Mount St. Vincent 6-12
Polytechnic 6-12
Bard 5-13
Purchase 2-16
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 11:34:36 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 11:34:36 AM
Farmingdale State 73, Yeshiva 43
Farmingdale State
Damien Santana 25 pts
Warren McAllister 13 pts
Peter Lipka 12 pts
Yeshiva
Alex Claster 10 pts
David Schaulewicz 10 pts
Yoel Sarraf 9 pts
This one was never in doubt as Farmingdale dominated the contest from the start. Yeshiva's defense gave far too many open looks to Santana and Lipka and the Maccabees paid the price. In addition, the Rams played solid defense with very few lapses, which prevented Yeshiva from mounting any kind of comeback.
Farmingdale State
Damien Santana 25 pts
Warren McAllister 13 pts
Peter Lipka 12 pts
Yeshiva
Alex Claster 10 pts
David Schaulewicz 10 pts
Yoel Sarraf 9 pts
This one was never in doubt as Farmingdale dominated the contest from the start. Yeshiva's defense gave far too many open looks to Santana and Lipka and the Maccabees paid the price. In addition, the Rams played solid defense with very few lapses, which prevented Yeshiva from mounting any kind of comeback.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 24, 2008, 06:51:37 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 24, 2008, 06:51:37 PM
why? because i'll be in the skyline conference next year and i'm a wild and crazy guy.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 10:49:31 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 24, 2008, 10:49:31 PM
It looks like you're going to have your work cut out for you at Purchase.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 25, 2008, 12:00:14 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 25, 2008, 12:00:14 AM
well at the athletics open house for incoming players i saw some guys that look like ball players...there was a 6'8'' dude that looked completely unmoveable: whether or not that translates into ability, we'll see. other than that, lots of long island white dudes who can prob. shoot and do nothing else. we will see my friend, we will see.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 25, 2008, 10:32:58 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 25, 2008, 10:32:58 AM
Don't let the long odds get you down. At every stage of Bard's transformation from HVMAC bottom-feeder to Skyline Conference power broker, people were saying it couldn't be done.
Looking forward to seeing you play.
Looking forward to seeing you play.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 25, 2008, 11:04:10 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 25, 2008, 11:04:10 AM
yeah, i hear ya.
i've been playing in a men's league at the Reebok Sports Club & Sports Club L/A with some ridiculous competition and i run twice a week with two 7 footers (Ex-Michigan/UNC-Greensboro), ex-Cornell, Colgate & Virginia Tech players & a guy from the Harlem Globetrotters. I should be in shape by the time the season rolls round, we'll see what's up though. Coming into a new school where things aren't going great is a new adventure for everyone. Purchase might not have been good this year but they're returning their entire team and that means lots of existing comradery and people not happy about getting replaced by a boatload of recruits. It's an interesting scenario and i'm hoping everything works out but like i said, we shall see.
i've been playing in a men's league at the Reebok Sports Club & Sports Club L/A with some ridiculous competition and i run twice a week with two 7 footers (Ex-Michigan/UNC-Greensboro), ex-Cornell, Colgate & Virginia Tech players & a guy from the Harlem Globetrotters. I should be in shape by the time the season rolls round, we'll see what's up though. Coming into a new school where things aren't going great is a new adventure for everyone. Purchase might not have been good this year but they're returning their entire team and that means lots of existing comradery and people not happy about getting replaced by a boatload of recruits. It's an interesting scenario and i'm hoping everything works out but like i said, we shall see.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: UCAAHoops21 on February 25, 2008, 02:38:58 PM
Post by: UCAAHoops21 on February 25, 2008, 02:38:58 PM
didn't i see that purchase is looking for a new coach next year as well?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 25, 2008, 03:18:55 PM
Post by: NYBB on February 25, 2008, 03:18:55 PM
well, they fired Coach Carroll mid-season and hired Jeff Charney who was a local HS coach. Mr. Charney's son is on the basketball team and also plays baseball for Purchase so the Purchase AD asked him to interim. However, the team lost all but one game under him so i don't know what's going to happen. From what i've gathered from the players, he's 75 % in. He seems like a nice guy but i was recruited by the assistant coach, Terry Calnek. Terry is the man but we shall see what happens.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 26, 2008, 09:34:55 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 26, 2008, 09:34:55 AM
Tonight's Skyline Conference Tournament Quarterfinals
#6 Yeshiva @ #3 Old Westbury
Earlier meetings: 12/27 Yeshiva 58, Old Westbury 57
2/13 Old Westbury 71, Yeshiva 63
#5 Mount St. Mary @ #4 Maritime
Earlier meetings: 12/12 MSM 73, Maritime 67
2/12 Maritime 72, MSM 66 (@ E. Rutherford)
(For previous games the home team is in bold)
#6 Yeshiva @ #3 Old Westbury
Earlier meetings: 12/27 Yeshiva 58, Old Westbury 57
2/13 Old Westbury 71, Yeshiva 63
#5 Mount St. Mary @ #4 Maritime
Earlier meetings: 12/12 MSM 73, Maritime 67
2/12 Maritime 72, MSM 66 (@ E. Rutherford)
(For previous games the home team is in bold)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on February 27, 2008, 05:37:56 AM
Post by: NYBB on February 27, 2008, 05:37:56 AM
Yeshiva upsets Old Westbury 88-82, overcoming a huge deficit in the 2nd half with freshman 6'6'' PF Zach Gordon leading the charge with 41 points!
SUNY-Maritime wins in the playoffs for the first time since 1999, beating Mt. St. Mary, 82 to 66. Maritime shot 32-55 from the field and were led by freshman Giovanni Hurley who had 23 on 11-12 shooting. Senior and Lebron James lookalike Jamal Webb had yet another ridiculous game with 21 points, 16 rebounds and 4 assists.
SUNY-Maritime wins in the playoffs for the first time since 1999, beating Mt. St. Mary, 82 to 66. Maritime shot 32-55 from the field and were led by freshman Giovanni Hurley who had 23 on 11-12 shooting. Senior and Lebron James lookalike Jamal Webb had yet another ridiculous game with 21 points, 16 rebounds and 4 assists.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 27, 2008, 08:43:48 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 27, 2008, 08:43:48 AM
Gordon's 41 points is the most by a Skyline player this year. The previous high was 37 points by Damien Santana (vs. Otterbein) and David Acree (vs. Farmingdale).
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 28, 2008, 07:56:18 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 28, 2008, 07:56:18 AM
Skyline Tournament Semifinals
Maritime @ Farmingdale
Farmingdale won both previous games: 91-75 @ Maritime and 81-55 @ Farmingdale.
Yeshiva @ St. Joseph's
St. Joe's won both previous games: 81-71 @ Yeshiva and 69-59 @ St. Joe's.
Maritime @ Farmingdale
Farmingdale won both previous games: 91-75 @ Maritime and 81-55 @ Farmingdale.
Yeshiva @ St. Joseph's
St. Joe's won both previous games: 81-71 @ Yeshiva and 69-59 @ St. Joe's.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 29, 2008, 08:51:53 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 29, 2008, 08:51:53 AM
Skyline Semifinals:
Farmingdale State 84, Maritime 69
St. Joseph's 73, Yeshiva 52
Outside of Yeshiva's upset over Old Westbury, there were no surprises in the Skyline Tournament. The two top seeds advance to the conference finals winning their semifinal games convincingly.
#1 Farmingdale State and #2 St. Joseph's split during the regular season, with each team winning at home.
Farmingdale State 84, Maritime 69
St. Joseph's 73, Yeshiva 52
Outside of Yeshiva's upset over Old Westbury, there were no surprises in the Skyline Tournament. The two top seeds advance to the conference finals winning their semifinal games convincingly.
#1 Farmingdale State and #2 St. Joseph's split during the regular season, with each team winning at home.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 01, 2008, 10:51:09 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 01, 2008, 10:51:09 AM
Skyline Championship
#2 St. Joseph's @ #1 Farmingdale State
The two teams split during the regular season with each winning at home. Farmingdale won the first game, 74-70. St. Joe's won the rematch, 91-81. Both teams split with Old Westbury, with both winning at home and both losing on the road. Apart from their losses to Old Westbury and to each other, neither team lost another Skyline game this year. Including their tournament wins, both teams are 17-2 in conference play.
The average margin of victory for Farmingdale is 22.7 and for St. Joe's it's 10.6. Eliminating the losses and including the conference tournament the margin of victory for Farmingdale is 26.9 and 13 for St. Joe's. For Farmingdale, 15 of their 17 wins over Skyline opponents have been by double digits. For St. Joe's, 12 have been by double digits.
#2 St. Joseph's @ #1 Farmingdale State
The two teams split during the regular season with each winning at home. Farmingdale won the first game, 74-70. St. Joe's won the rematch, 91-81. Both teams split with Old Westbury, with both winning at home and both losing on the road. Apart from their losses to Old Westbury and to each other, neither team lost another Skyline game this year. Including their tournament wins, both teams are 17-2 in conference play.
The average margin of victory for Farmingdale is 22.7 and for St. Joe's it's 10.6. Eliminating the losses and including the conference tournament the margin of victory for Farmingdale is 26.9 and 13 for St. Joe's. For Farmingdale, 15 of their 17 wins over Skyline opponents have been by double digits. For St. Joe's, 12 have been by double digits.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 02, 2008, 09:51:08 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 02, 2008, 09:51:08 AM
Skyline Championship Game
Farmingdale State 91, St. Joseph's 71
Farmingdale wins the rubber match and earns a Pool A bid to the NCAA Tournament. The Rams led by 11 at the half and shot 60% from the floor in the second half to win the game decisively. Brian Robinson was named the MVP of the championship game.
Farmingdale State 91, St. Joseph's 71
Farmingdale wins the rubber match and earns a Pool A bid to the NCAA Tournament. The Rams led by 11 at the half and shot 60% from the floor in the second half to win the game decisively. Brian Robinson was named the MVP of the championship game.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on March 03, 2008, 08:40:17 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on March 03, 2008, 08:40:17 PM
NJCU will play York on Wednesday in the first round of the ECAC tournament. (http://www.njcugothicknights.com/News/mbasket/2008/3/3/03-03-08_MBASKETBALL_ECAC_TOURNAMENT_ANNOUNCEMENT.asp?path=mbasket)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 03, 2008, 11:13:35 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 03, 2008, 11:13:35 PM
Here's some info on Farmingdale State's NCAA opponent, Penn State-Behrend:
Region: Great Lakes
Location: Erie, PA
Conference: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference (AMCC)
Record: 23-4 (overall), 15-3 (in conference)
Longest winning streak: 10 games (current)
Longest losing streak: no consecutive losses
Penn State-Behrend finished first in the AMCC this year. They won the conference tournament defeating the number two seed Lake Erie, 57-54. They received a Pool A bid to the NCAA tournament.
Region: Great Lakes
Location: Erie, PA
Conference: Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference (AMCC)
Record: 23-4 (overall), 15-3 (in conference)
Longest winning streak: 10 games (current)
Longest losing streak: no consecutive losses
Penn State-Behrend finished first in the AMCC this year. They won the conference tournament defeating the number two seed Lake Erie, 57-54. They received a Pool A bid to the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pryme0bjective on March 05, 2008, 12:00:43 AM
Post by: Pryme0bjective on March 05, 2008, 12:00:43 AM
FYI- farmingdale state is 4th in the nation in scoring offense @ 89.9 ppg and is 2nd in the nation in rebound margin and scoring margin at 10.3rpg and 17.4ppg respectively
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on March 05, 2008, 04:26:44 PM
Post by: NYBB on March 05, 2008, 04:26:44 PM
I think Farmingdale might be able to top Behrend...just by looking at them. lol
http://www.behrend.psu.edu/athletics/mbball/roster.htm (http://www.behrend.psu.edu/athletics/mbball/roster.htm)
http://www.behrend.psu.edu/athletics/mbball/roster.htm (http://www.behrend.psu.edu/athletics/mbball/roster.htm)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on March 05, 2008, 10:47:21 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on March 05, 2008, 10:47:21 PM
Just curious- how come St. Joe's got the ECAC, not a second NCAA bid?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 05, 2008, 11:47:02 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 05, 2008, 11:47:02 PM
Access the Site FAQ from the front page and click on NCAA Tournament. Then click on the bottom link dealing with selection and seeding.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 07, 2008, 10:54:25 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 07, 2008, 10:54:25 PM
Penn State Behrend 83, Farmingdale State 62
Penn State Behrend led 41-36 at the break and blew it open in the second half. The Lions shot 64% from the field in the second stanza and led by as many as 28 points. Santana was high man with 22 points followed by McCallister with 14.
This is the Rams' second appearance in the NCAA tournament. In 2006, Farmingdale won their opening round game against Ursinus, and then put in a good effort before eventually losing to Virginia Wesleyan.
Penn State Behrend led 41-36 at the break and blew it open in the second half. The Lions shot 64% from the field in the second stanza and led by as many as 28 points. Santana was high man with 22 points followed by McCallister with 14.
This is the Rams' second appearance in the NCAA tournament. In 2006, Farmingdale won their opening round game against Ursinus, and then put in a good effort before eventually losing to Virginia Wesleyan.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on March 08, 2008, 12:56:14 AM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on March 08, 2008, 12:56:14 AM
Quote from: NYBB on March 05, 2008, 04:26:44 PM
I think Farmingdale might be able to top Behrend...just by looking at them. lol
http://www.behrend.psu.edu/athletics/mbball/roster.htm (http://www.behrend.psu.edu/athletics/mbball/roster.htm)
Guess Farmingdale getting thrashed kind of disproved this ill advised notion. Never judge a book by its cover. Clown.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 08, 2008, 09:45:31 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 08, 2008, 09:45:31 AM
That post certainly was ill-advised.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on March 10, 2008, 03:16:13 AM
Post by: NYBB on March 10, 2008, 03:16:13 AM
That cover wasn't even worth investigating. It was an awful cover to be honest...a very pale, bleak cover without color or brightness. It was a cover that I wouldn't want to open and a cover that I wouldn't want a child to see. It was a cover, oh yes, a cover indeed. Clown.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on March 10, 2008, 11:46:39 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on March 10, 2008, 11:46:39 AM
"Access the Site FAQ from the front page and click on NCAA Tournament. Then click on the bottom link dealing with selection and seeding."
Thanks Rhodes-I know what criteria are used. I was curious if any thought St. Joe's deserved a bid using that criteria- especially since the Skyline has been a multi-bid league in the past.
Thanks Rhodes-I know what criteria are used. I was curious if any thought St. Joe's deserved a bid using that criteria- especially since the Skyline has been a multi-bid league in the past.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2008, 12:02:05 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2008, 12:02:05 PM
If this had been last year's Skyline lineup then the Skyline might have had two teams picked.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on March 10, 2008, 12:05:15 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on March 10, 2008, 12:05:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2008, 12:02:05 PM
If this had been last year's Skyline lineup then the Skyline might have had two teams picked.
Yeah, most likely Farmingdale and Stevens.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on March 10, 2008, 04:19:56 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on March 10, 2008, 04:19:56 PM
NYBB-
You saw a team picture of a bunch of doofy, gangly white guys and just assumed that Farmingdale was going to dismantle them. Big mistake.
Farmingdale is one of the most athletic teams I've ever seen, but they're sitting at home now because a team came in, ran their offense and played lock down defense, taking Farmingdale out of their helter-skelter element. Farmingdale put up 100+ 5 times this year, just barely hit 60 in the NCAA's.
Playoff basketball is different, you can NEVER rely on athleticism alone.
You saw a team picture of a bunch of doofy, gangly white guys and just assumed that Farmingdale was going to dismantle them. Big mistake.
Farmingdale is one of the most athletic teams I've ever seen, but they're sitting at home now because a team came in, ran their offense and played lock down defense, taking Farmingdale out of their helter-skelter element. Farmingdale put up 100+ 5 times this year, just barely hit 60 in the NCAA's.
Playoff basketball is different, you can NEVER rely on athleticism alone.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on March 10, 2008, 04:30:18 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on March 10, 2008, 04:30:18 PM
When I saw Farmingdale earlier this season against NJCU they tried to run the press but would get frustrated and slack up some instead of staying aggressive. I see them almost every year against NJCU and they have made great strides but the players need to dedicate themselves to playing defense and I don't think they do. Of course every team in the NJAC will run the press on defense quite often so they are all used to it. William Paterson still runs it better than anyone else in the NJAC, but Coach Rembibas wants them to take pride in their defense first, then the offense.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on March 10, 2008, 09:41:10 PM
Post by: NYBB on March 10, 2008, 09:41:10 PM
Let's just admit it : the atlantic isn't good in D3.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on March 10, 2008, 11:49:11 PM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on March 10, 2008, 11:49:11 PM
The atlantic is really hurt because two of its better teams (Stevens and NYU) are in the East Region instead of the atlantic because of conference affiliation, even though everyone knows those are Atlantic schools. I know this was a down year by NYU standards, but we've all seen how good they've been recently, and Stevens is coming off two years in which they went to the NCAA Sweet 16 and won the ECAC Metro Title. You include these two teams in the Atlantic and suddenly it doesn't look so bad.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on March 11, 2008, 01:14:09 AM
Post by: Knightstalker on March 11, 2008, 01:14:09 AM
Although the NJAC as a whole is a little down this year they have sent a team to at least the Sweet 16 most years, the elite eight three or four and a final four this decade, ok it was the beginning of the decade but still this decade. Other Atlantic region teams have done well also. Stevens has been good for the last couple of years but I wonder if they will maintain after graduation this year. The biggest problem with the Atlantic is the small number of teams.
Stockton has a chance to make some noise, they have to get past Amherst which is a big order but I think they can put points up with them and hopefully play some tough D.
Stockton has a chance to make some noise, they have to get past Amherst which is a big order but I think they can put points up with them and hopefully play some tough D.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 11, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 11, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
Top to bottom the Atlantic region is not very strong. No elite teams (although Stockton may prove to be one), about half a dozen good teams, many average to below average teams and more than its share of bottom feeders. The NJAC is declining every year and this year was the weakest I can ever remember it being. The CUNYAC has gotten a little better but still has a long ways to go, and the Skyline has deteriorated.
Stockton has certainly got a better shot against Amherst than Jay Jay did, but the Ospreys are still a pretty big underdog against the Lord Jeffs. Stockton will be giving away a lot of height and could get killed off the boards and may have a lot a problems defending against Amherst's big men.
Stockton has certainly got a better shot against Amherst than Jay Jay did, but the Ospreys are still a pretty big underdog against the Lord Jeffs. Stockton will be giving away a lot of height and could get killed off the boards and may have a lot a problems defending against Amherst's big men.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on March 11, 2008, 11:20:55 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on March 11, 2008, 11:20:55 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on March 11, 2008, 10:33:18 PM
Top to bottom the Atlantic region is not very strong. No elite teams (although Stockton may prove to be one), about half a dozen good teams, many average to below average teams and more than its share of bottom feeders. The NJAC is declining every year and this year was the weakest I can ever remember it being. The CUNYAC has gotten a little better but still has a long ways to go, and the Skyline has deteriorated.
Stockton has certainly got a better shot against Amherst than Jay Jay did, but the Ospreys are still a pretty big underdog against the Lord Jeffs. Stockton will be giving away a lot of height and could get killed off the boards and may have a lot a problems defending against Amherst's big men.
I think part of the NJAC decline is a dearth of big men in the conference. Every team used to have two or three players 6'5" or more. There are just no dominant post players. NJCU was really hurt by this lack of size this season. I was worried who would be able to replace Abe and there was just no one on the team tough enough to do it. The NJAC is a league with a lot of really good and a few great swingmen and some good point guards. The 4 and 5 are hurting. NJCU hasn't had a post player who could put the team on his back since Jon Green graduated.
I think Stockton can score on Amherst and keep it close but I agree with Rhodes about defending the bigger players and on the boards.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 11, 2008, 11:47:19 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 11, 2008, 11:47:19 PM
I don't know why the NJAC is down, but it clearly is. The conference was much stronger ten years ago and has really gotten weaker the last four years or so. Rowan and Montclair State are way down. Ramapo and NJCU were disappointing this year. Kean has gotten worse. Rutgers-Newark has hit a roadblock. At one time the NJAC was a power conference, but not any more. Hopefully, this decline is only temporary. I, for one, miss the good old days.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on March 12, 2008, 08:20:08 AM
Post by: Knightstalker on March 12, 2008, 08:20:08 AM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on March 11, 2008, 11:47:19 PM
I don't know why the NJAC is down, but it clearly is. The conference was much stronger ten years ago and has really gotten weaker the last four years or so. Rowan and Montclair State are way down. Ramapo and NJCU were disappointing this year. Kean has gotten worse. Rutgers-Newark has hit a roadblock. At one time the NJAC was a power conference, but not any more. Hopefully, this decline is only temporary. I, for one, miss the good old days.
I think NJCU's problem this year was the graduation of Abe William and Alex Mirabel along with the coaching change. Ramapo seems to have lost some leadership on the floor and I believe both programs will be back. Montclair is young and should just get better. Rowan does not seem to be getting the big versatile forwards they used to get, same story with TCNJ. Kean is also a new coach but they have been slipping in recent years.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on April 24, 2008, 08:09:58 PM
Post by: NYBB on April 24, 2008, 08:09:58 PM
Does anybody know if St. Joe's Brooklyn will be joining the Skyline? They are official D3 now so why not?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: absolutbb on May 02, 2008, 11:32:11 AM
Post by: absolutbb on May 02, 2008, 11:32:11 AM
whats up with mt saint vincent? anybody heard the dolphins are looking for a new basketball coach?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on May 03, 2008, 06:00:35 PM
Post by: NYBB on May 03, 2008, 06:00:35 PM
are they now?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 03, 2008, 06:59:44 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 03, 2008, 06:59:44 PM
I have heard from a reliable source that Mike Murphy was let go, yes.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: absolutbb on May 03, 2008, 09:48:37 PM
Post by: absolutbb on May 03, 2008, 09:48:37 PM
any idea who the new coach will be? why did they let murphy go?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 03, 2008, 11:27:14 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 03, 2008, 11:27:14 PM
I don't have anything on the record. Best I can term it is a clash of styles.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: absolutbb on May 04, 2008, 05:35:18 PM
Post by: absolutbb on May 04, 2008, 05:35:18 PM
thx for the update. any idea who might take over at the mount? or where murphy will land?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on May 14, 2008, 11:13:04 AM
Post by: Knightstalker on May 14, 2008, 11:13:04 AM
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Mike Dougherty
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Secaucus NJ
In Flander's Field
by John McCrae
In Flanders Fields the poppies blow,
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead.
Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved and now we lie,
In Flanders Fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw,
The torch, be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us, who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow,
In Flanders Fields.
Mike Dougherty
Commander VFW Memorial Post 3776
Secaucus NJ
In Flander's Field
by John McCrae
In Flanders Fields the poppies blow,
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead.
Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved and now we lie,
In Flanders Fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw,
The torch, be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us, who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow,
In Flanders Fields.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on June 16, 2008, 05:43:48 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on June 16, 2008, 05:43:48 PM
Purchase will definitely need a serious infusion of talent in order to compete with the likes of Farmingdale and St. Joe's. It'll be interesting to see how your prediction pans out.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: D3HOOPSCOOP on June 28, 2008, 03:08:09 PM
Post by: D3HOOPSCOOP on June 28, 2008, 03:08:09 PM
Any thoughts on the upcoming season? Any rumors? Transfers? Anything at all? Let's see if we can't get this board hot again.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on July 08, 2008, 09:35:14 PM
Post by: NYBB on July 08, 2008, 09:35:14 PM
lol okay. You'll see.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 09, 2008, 01:05:39 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 09, 2008, 01:05:39 PM
Quote from: NYBB on July 08, 2008, 09:35:14 PM
lol okay. You'll see.
Someone should post that on a bulletin board for checking against in late January or so. :)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on July 09, 2008, 11:26:45 PM
Post by: NYBB on July 09, 2008, 11:26:45 PM
i really am not at liberty to be more than vague. all i can say is that including myself, there are about 12 transfers coming in to purchase this year to play basketball, 3 of which are coming down from a division 2 NCAA school at heights 6'4", 6'5" and 6'7". There are also several other JUCO guys who can really play and throw it down. I will predict right now that we will jump from 10th to the top 4 in the conference this season if everyone is registered and plays. It should be fun to be part of.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: hoopsman on July 10, 2008, 11:07:55 AM
Post by: hoopsman on July 10, 2008, 11:07:55 AM
I hope that these transfers make a difference, but one has to ask the question why are they transferring down? Is it because they didn't get any burn at the NCAA D.2's, are they ineligible at the D. 2 level, or what?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on July 10, 2008, 04:51:16 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on July 10, 2008, 04:51:16 PM
Interesting. So purchase is just recruiting a whole new team. An entire roster basically is transferring in, are they? And what will happen with the players who are already on the team and committed to the program? I find it very hard to believe that Purchase is going to have 12 new players next year. While whether or not they rise to the top of the Skyline means nothing to me, I simply cannot fathom why so many young men would up and transfer to Purchase out of the blue, and if such a united transfer were to occur, I highly doubt Purchase would be the destination of choice. And if it were to occur, if all these young men are transferring, I highly doubt they're all of Harvard intelligence.
So NYBB, I call your bluff. I say that of the 12 potential transfers you speak of, half of them won't ever reach the school. And of the others, 3 of them won't be academically eligible until 2020.
Lets see how it plays out.
So NYBB, I call your bluff. I say that of the 12 potential transfers you speak of, half of them won't ever reach the school. And of the others, 3 of them won't be academically eligible until 2020.
Lets see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Danny Weismuller on July 14, 2008, 10:36:11 AM
Post by: Danny Weismuller on July 14, 2008, 10:36:11 AM
Quote from: BubbaChuck3 on July 10, 2008, 04:51:16 PM
I simply cannot fathom why so many young men would up and transfer to Purchase out of the blue, and if such a united transfer were to occur, I highly doubt Purchase would be the destination of choice.
you never know... maybe they have some "friends of the program" up there...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on July 15, 2008, 01:19:03 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on July 15, 2008, 01:19:03 PM
NYBB: You think that Purchase's turnaround this year will be more drastic than that of Brooklyn College's this past season? I believe they went from 10-14 and no playoff berth in 2006-2007 to 21-7, a tie for 1st place in the conference and semifinalists of the ECAC' in 2007-2008, an impressive turnaround. And I do not think that there was a story put out about them.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on July 15, 2008, 02:02:17 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on July 15, 2008, 02:02:17 PM
If you're talking unlikely one-year turnarounds, it's tough to beat Hunter's improvement from 1997 to 1998. In '97 the Hawks were 9-17. In '98 they went 28-2 and went to the Elite Eight.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on July 17, 2008, 01:09:16 AM
Post by: NYBB on July 17, 2008, 01:09:16 AM
single reason for hunter's turnaround : Coach Mike Brown bringing in the most outstanding players EVER and the fact that he was/is an amazing coach.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on July 17, 2008, 12:01:40 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on July 17, 2008, 12:01:40 PM
Speaking of Mike Brown, is he coaching anywhere? I haven't heard anything about him since he left John Jay about threee years ago.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NYBB on July 19, 2008, 12:40:35 AM
Post by: NYBB on July 19, 2008, 12:40:35 AM
i don't know where he is but he was a friend of my family's since i was a child and i wish i could get in touch with him.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: daman2010 on September 18, 2008, 11:18:57 AM
Post by: daman2010 on September 18, 2008, 11:18:57 AM
Yes the 2008-2009 season is almost here. Who are the teams to look out for?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on September 20, 2008, 01:04:58 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on September 20, 2008, 01:04:58 AM
Presumably if you are asking this question, you have failed to notice the meteoric rise of Bard College to Skyline Conference power. Remind me never to hire you to supervise the Manhattan Project testing. You'd probably say, "What mushroom cloud?"
Bard is the favorite. The season is an elaborate kabuki dance to verify that fact.
Bard is the favorite. The season is an elaborate kabuki dance to verify that fact.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: daman2010 on September 20, 2008, 01:37:12 PM
Post by: daman2010 on September 20, 2008, 01:37:12 PM
Well thank you, but no thank you. Brad College will not have a answer for Farmingdale State. Please ask me why and who?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 21, 2008, 07:10:30 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 21, 2008, 07:10:30 PM
daman -- meet the master of hyperbole known as Raptormania. :)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 21, 2008, 08:01:14 PM
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 21, 2008, 08:01:14 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 21, 2008, 07:10:30 PMYeah, fans from as far away as Texas lurk this board in "rapt" anticipation his every word! :D
daman -- meet the master of hyperbole known as Raptormania. :)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: daman2010 on September 22, 2008, 08:12:00 AM
Post by: daman2010 on September 22, 2008, 08:12:00 AM
Ok well the person that will run thru the Skyline is MIKE{Wayne}CAMPBELL. He is a D1 JUCO transfer from Globe Inst.{R.I.P} this kid had at less 5 D1 scholarship offers and turned them down just because he wants to get out the city. If you want to see his stats just look up his name at NJCAA.org
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on September 22, 2008, 12:50:10 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on September 22, 2008, 12:50:10 PM
Are you saying that Campbell will be playing for Farmingdale this year? I never saw him play but he did put up some good numbers.
Also, do you know what happened to Ken Wilcox? He used to be the AD and men's basketball coach at Globe, and now he's no longer there.
Also, do you know what happened to Ken Wilcox? He used to be the AD and men's basketball coach at Globe, and now he's no longer there.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on September 22, 2008, 02:07:30 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on September 22, 2008, 02:07:30 PM
Ok well the person that will run thru the Skyline is MIKE{Wayne}CAMPBELL. He is a D1 JUCO transfer from Globe Inst.{R.I.P} this kid had at less 5 D1 scholarship offers and turned them down just because he wants to get out the city. If you want to see his stats just look up his name at NJCAA.org
Well, sure. Anyone can put up great numbers when not facing the Bard Raptors. I wish "Wayne" Campbell luck in his sequel- after all, Wayne's World 2 was a flop.
Had Globe Institute faced Bard College, they'd have changed their name to The Flat Earth Society.
Well, sure. Anyone can put up great numbers when not facing the Bard Raptors. I wish "Wayne" Campbell luck in his sequel- after all, Wayne's World 2 was a flop.
Had Globe Institute faced Bard College, they'd have changed their name to The Flat Earth Society.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on September 23, 2008, 01:09:23 AM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on September 23, 2008, 01:09:23 AM
Had Globe Institute faced Bard College, they'd have changed their name to The Flat Earth Society.
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BA DUM DUM CHING..
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: daman2010 on September 23, 2008, 11:04:08 AM
Post by: daman2010 on September 23, 2008, 11:04:08 AM
All my Brad College Fans. I was wondering who was Brad College so as I looked them up. They was 8 and 19 last season ??? Please tell me something that gonna make Brad College a good team. Give me some facts about Brad college basketball team.
Also to answer you question, coach Willcox is a very smart and well connected man. He started another D1 program at another college, the name of the college is A.S.A. I don't know wat the letters mean but that's where he is coaching now. Its a school somewhere in downtown Brooklyn.
Also to answer you question, coach Willcox is a very smart and well connected man. He started another D1 program at another college, the name of the college is A.S.A. I don't know wat the letters mean but that's where he is coaching now. Its a school somewhere in downtown Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on September 23, 2008, 12:22:21 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on September 23, 2008, 12:22:21 PM
Please tell me something that gonna make Brad College a good team. Give me some facts about Brad college basketball team.
1. A number of top returning players, including arguably the finest point guard in the Skyline Conference, Justin White.
2. A solid recruiting class, including 6'9 Alex Hinton and 6'7" Forrest Alvarez-Ringer, to shore up the inside, which was Bard's biggest weakness last year.
3. A vigorous admission process that guarantees everyone attending the school knows that is is Bard College, not Brad College.
Let me say this- the Rams have an even-money shot against BRAD College, since there is no such school. Against BARD? Well, think of the biblical story of Abraham and Isaac-Bard is Abraham and Isaac, and the Rams are, well, themselves.
1. A number of top returning players, including arguably the finest point guard in the Skyline Conference, Justin White.
2. A solid recruiting class, including 6'9 Alex Hinton and 6'7" Forrest Alvarez-Ringer, to shore up the inside, which was Bard's biggest weakness last year.
3. A vigorous admission process that guarantees everyone attending the school knows that is is Bard College, not Brad College.
Let me say this- the Rams have an even-money shot against BRAD College, since there is no such school. Against BARD? Well, think of the biblical story of Abraham and Isaac-Bard is Abraham and Isaac, and the Rams are, well, themselves.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: daman2010 on September 23, 2008, 01:35:48 PM
Post by: daman2010 on September 23, 2008, 01:35:48 PM
8)So the name is Bard College. Okay well Brad College even with thoses players you named, will not be able to stop Farmingdale State. Also to answer for your Point guard, Farmingdale has D-Law from Goble as well. Yeah look that name up, he played with Mike Campbell for two years one year at F.I.T and the second year at Goble {R.I.P}. Just call them The new Batman and Robin of the Skyline.. Good luck this season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on September 24, 2008, 11:17:38 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on September 24, 2008, 11:17:38 AM
Okay well Brad College even with thoses players you named, will not be able to stop Farmingdale State.
Who is arguing? Brad College, by virtue of being fictional, would have a tough time staying with any college that exists. It is a mismatch on par with Farmingdale State trying desperately to stay with Bard College, but falling victim to the Stevenson Gym Legion of Doom.
Farmingdale is the Titanic. Bard is the iceberg. Farmingdale is the ill-advised decision by Naqpoleon to invade Russia in winter. Bard is unseasonably cold snow and sleet. Farmingdale is McDonald's. Bard is this country's dramatic turn toward healthier eating.
Who is arguing? Brad College, by virtue of being fictional, would have a tough time staying with any college that exists. It is a mismatch on par with Farmingdale State trying desperately to stay with Bard College, but falling victim to the Stevenson Gym Legion of Doom.
Farmingdale is the Titanic. Bard is the iceberg. Farmingdale is the ill-advised decision by Naqpoleon to invade Russia in winter. Bard is unseasonably cold snow and sleet. Farmingdale is McDonald's. Bard is this country's dramatic turn toward healthier eating.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on October 22, 2008, 03:11:28 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on October 22, 2008, 03:11:28 PM
Word has it that the surprise team in the Skyline this year could be Polytech. Polytech has supposedly made some nice additions to their core of freshmen from last year's team. I would not be surprised if Polytech is a playoff team this year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on October 23, 2008, 02:19:31 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on October 23, 2008, 02:19:31 PM
That sounds great- but unfortunately for Poly, they play in the same conference as Bard. The Raptors have taken 3 of the last 4 against Poly, and with greater strength inside, my guess is that February 14, 2009 will be a St. Valentine's Day Massacre of Poly by Bard.
The first matchup between the two will be a little different. Bard will still crush Poly, but it will be to celebrate the day in 1938 when Norway claimed Antarctica's Queen Maud Land, instead of lovers.
The first matchup between the two will be a little different. Bard will still crush Poly, but it will be to celebrate the day in 1938 when Norway claimed Antarctica's Queen Maud Land, instead of lovers.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 07, 2008, 10:15:06 AM
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 07, 2008, 10:15:06 AM
How about Purchase.
Heard they picked up a bunch of D1 guys. Anyone hear more info regarding this?
Heard they picked up a bunch of D1 guys. Anyone hear more info regarding this?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 07, 2008, 10:50:53 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 07, 2008, 10:50:53 AM
Yes... this just in. They're going to lose twice to Bard.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: daman2010 on November 07, 2008, 01:31:09 PM
Post by: daman2010 on November 07, 2008, 01:31:09 PM
NO their is no word of D1 players attending that college. They have a few Bronx Community College transfers. Thanks to my guy Shane.
Does anybody have a idea of the pre-season polls for the 08-09 season. Season begins next week lets start the talk.
Does anybody have a idea of the pre-season polls for the 08-09 season. Season begins next week lets start the talk.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 08, 2008, 05:29:29 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 08, 2008, 05:29:29 PM
pre-season polls should be coming out this week
heres my 6 going to the playoffs
1. Farmingdale State
2. Purchase
3. Old Westbury
4. St. Josephs
5. MSMC
6. MSV
heres my 6 going to the playoffs
1. Farmingdale State
2. Purchase
3. Old Westbury
4. St. Josephs
5. MSMC
6. MSV
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: hoop junkie on November 08, 2008, 07:48:27 PM
Post by: hoop junkie on November 08, 2008, 07:48:27 PM
Wheres Bard??? Lol, right where they should be, the bottom of the conference. Whats the deal with SUNY Purchase, how and when did they become a basketball power and a preseason favorite. Someone please elaborate
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NyBaller09 on November 08, 2008, 11:22:57 PM
Post by: NyBaller09 on November 08, 2008, 11:22:57 PM
Suny Purchase has A bunch of new recruits who have the potential to make them a real force in the conference , thats why they are one of the preseason favorites look out for them!!!!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: FutureD3playa on November 09, 2008, 05:58:31 PM
Post by: FutureD3playa on November 09, 2008, 05:58:31 PM
FARMINGDALE will run the conference
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 11, 2008, 02:04:31 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 11, 2008, 02:04:31 PM
whoever is giving you people info on purchase is pretty off base.
bcc transfers? what are you talking about?
PC has about 5 transfers, some from d1, some from d2, others from d3...other than that, there's no need to spill any specific information that doesn't need to prematurely come out.
After Purchase wins the SUNY New Paltz tournament, everything will become publicly known.
bcc transfers? what are you talking about?
PC has about 5 transfers, some from d1, some from d2, others from d3...other than that, there's no need to spill any specific information that doesn't need to prematurely come out.
After Purchase wins the SUNY New Paltz tournament, everything will become publicly known.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 11, 2008, 03:41:12 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 11, 2008, 03:41:12 PM
I believe the ones "spilling" the information are those from Purchase...
an you are kind of contradicting yourself saying that the info is "off base" - then stating (with confidence i add) that Purchase will win the New Paltz Tourney ... whats really going on over there?
an you are kind of contradicting yourself saying that the info is "off base" - then stating (with confidence i add) that Purchase will win the New Paltz Tourney ... whats really going on over there?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 11, 2008, 05:13:01 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 11, 2008, 05:13:01 PM
what i'm saying is that the team has transformed from a perennial loser into what could possibly be one of the best teams in the conference.
there are several transfers but three in particular who should overwhelm their competition. They have already beat a d2 team in a scrimmage. Teams that think that they will run away with the game as they have in the past, this is a warning shot to you; do not think you're going to win by 25 with your reserves out on the court. Your first string should have a tough time containing this new team.
there are several transfers but three in particular who should overwhelm their competition. They have already beat a d2 team in a scrimmage. Teams that think that they will run away with the game as they have in the past, this is a warning shot to you; do not think you're going to win by 25 with your reserves out on the court. Your first string should have a tough time containing this new team.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 11, 2008, 08:27:37 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 11, 2008, 08:27:37 PM
no one is saying that purchase is going to be a roll over .... accually they are being complemented on how good they are going to be this year.
I pesonally think that they will finish 2nd in the conference - simply because i dont know how the chemestry is over there. Just because they might have the "more talented" players - doesnt mean they will be the best TEAM. Believe me i would rather have purchase win that farmingdale.
Whose your sleeper team this year????
im calling Mount Saint Vincent
I pesonally think that they will finish 2nd in the conference - simply because i dont know how the chemestry is over there. Just because they might have the "more talented" players - doesnt mean they will be the best TEAM. Believe me i would rather have purchase win that farmingdale.
Whose your sleeper team this year????
im calling Mount Saint Vincent
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on November 12, 2008, 12:53:23 PM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on November 12, 2008, 12:53:23 PM
Random Question...
I haven't been on this board in a little bit, but I'm curious as to how people think the Skyline defects from a couple years ago (Stevens, Manhattanville) would fair in the conference.
Manhattanville's last Skyline year they won the conference and the auto berth to the NCAA tournament, where they ran into Ben Strong (arguably the best big in the country that year). Last season they went 17-9 in the Freedom Conference. They were hit hard with graduation however, as their top 3 players from a year ago have all moved on.
Stevens' last year they were 23-7, making it to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tourney. They followed that up last year with another 23 win season (in the Empire 8, which by Massey Ratings is a hardest conference out of E8, Skyline, and Freedom) and an ECAC Metro championship. They return 4 members of the NCAA team and all but 2 from last years ECAC Championship team.
For my money, I think Stevens would probably between 1 or 2, depending on what you think of Farmingdale. Manhattanville was always a tough Skyline team, so I couldn't see them much lower than 4, at worst 5. What do you think?
I haven't been on this board in a little bit, but I'm curious as to how people think the Skyline defects from a couple years ago (Stevens, Manhattanville) would fair in the conference.
Manhattanville's last Skyline year they won the conference and the auto berth to the NCAA tournament, where they ran into Ben Strong (arguably the best big in the country that year). Last season they went 17-9 in the Freedom Conference. They were hit hard with graduation however, as their top 3 players from a year ago have all moved on.
Stevens' last year they were 23-7, making it to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tourney. They followed that up last year with another 23 win season (in the Empire 8, which by Massey Ratings is a hardest conference out of E8, Skyline, and Freedom) and an ECAC Metro championship. They return 4 members of the NCAA team and all but 2 from last years ECAC Championship team.
For my money, I think Stevens would probably between 1 or 2, depending on what you think of Farmingdale. Manhattanville was always a tough Skyline team, so I couldn't see them much lower than 4, at worst 5. What do you think?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 12, 2008, 02:26:00 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 12, 2008, 02:26:00 PM
"Wheres Bard??? Lol, right where they should be, the bottom of the conference."
And also at the top. All those 0-0 records may have confused you.
"Teams that think that they will run away with the game as they have in the past, this is a warning shot to you; do not think you're going to win by 25 with your reserves out on the court. Your first string should have a tough time containing this new team."
This is such an important point. Bard ABSOLUTELY will not beat Purchase by 25 with its reserves. As usual, it will happen with mostly its starters.
And also at the top. All those 0-0 records may have confused you.
"Teams that think that they will run away with the game as they have in the past, this is a warning shot to you; do not think you're going to win by 25 with your reserves out on the court. Your first string should have a tough time containing this new team."
This is such an important point. Bard ABSOLUTELY will not beat Purchase by 25 with its reserves. As usual, it will happen with mostly its starters.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 12, 2008, 02:54:17 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 12, 2008, 02:54:17 PM
Raptormania,
If you think that Bard is going to beat Purchase, you've lost the common sense part of your brain.
Not to put your recruiting down, but with your #1 guy being Alvarez, who was the center on a division 2 private school b league team in manhattan last year, i don't think that he's going to match up to well with a division 2 transfer at purchase or any of the other centers in the skyline.
Justin White? The #1 point guard in the skyline? Purchase's d1 transfer pg will eat him for breakfast. I can't wait for that matchup.
If you think that Bard is going to beat Purchase, you've lost the common sense part of your brain.
Not to put your recruiting down, but with your #1 guy being Alvarez, who was the center on a division 2 private school b league team in manhattan last year, i don't think that he's going to match up to well with a division 2 transfer at purchase or any of the other centers in the skyline.
Justin White? The #1 point guard in the skyline? Purchase's d1 transfer pg will eat him for breakfast. I can't wait for that matchup.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 12, 2008, 06:01:34 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 12, 2008, 06:01:34 PM
d3hero ....
did you by any chance forget about Damien Santana???
dont tell me he isnt the best PG in Skyline
did you by any chance forget about Damien Santana???
dont tell me he isnt the best PG in Skyline
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 12, 2008, 07:21:25 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 12, 2008, 07:21:25 PM
Santana might have a tiny height advantage but Purchase's new PG is a division one scholarship player who is going to match up evenly with him when he's playing that position.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 12, 2008, 07:45:39 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 12, 2008, 07:45:39 PM
should be exciting then! should be a very interesting year.
whose your surprising team this year?
whose your surprising team this year?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 12, 2008, 08:21:24 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 12, 2008, 08:21:24 PM
"If you think that Bard is going to beat Purchase, you've lost the common sense part of your brain."
I resent the implication that I ever had a common sense part of my brain. But the way I've been able to tell Bard has beaten Purchase in the past is a complicated one.
1. Take the number of assists, divide it by the number of turnovers and multiply it by each team's number of blocked shots over the square root of the total number of offensive fouls.
2. Disregard that number, look up at scoreboard.
I plan to use that same system this season, with the same results.
"Justin White? The #1 point guard in the skyline? Purchase's d1 transfer pg will eat him for breakfast. I can't wait for that matchup."
Justin White's father is a chef. The only thing the Purchase PG (no name, I notice) will be eating for breakfast is can after can of Justin's whoop-ass. And Justin learned how to serve it a la carte, so don't be expecting a side of home fries.
I resent the implication that I ever had a common sense part of my brain. But the way I've been able to tell Bard has beaten Purchase in the past is a complicated one.
1. Take the number of assists, divide it by the number of turnovers and multiply it by each team's number of blocked shots over the square root of the total number of offensive fouls.
2. Disregard that number, look up at scoreboard.
I plan to use that same system this season, with the same results.
"Justin White? The #1 point guard in the skyline? Purchase's d1 transfer pg will eat him for breakfast. I can't wait for that matchup."
Justin White's father is a chef. The only thing the Purchase PG (no name, I notice) will be eating for breakfast is can after can of Justin's whoop-ass. And Justin learned how to serve it a la carte, so don't be expecting a side of home fries.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 13, 2008, 11:13:26 AM
Post by: d3hero on November 13, 2008, 11:13:26 AM
justin white?
purchase's backup point guard, also with the same first name, could take him but the new starting pg, as i said, a d1 scholarship player, is going to manhandle him.
btw, i don't know if i mentioned your #1 recruit, Forrest Alvarez, but come on... he's a division 2 independent school league high school center. He's not bad and he's tall but come on. If that's all Bard has coming in, your team is in trouble.
purchase's backup point guard, also with the same first name, could take him but the new starting pg, as i said, a d1 scholarship player, is going to manhandle him.
btw, i don't know if i mentioned your #1 recruit, Forrest Alvarez, but come on... he's a division 2 independent school league high school center. He's not bad and he's tall but come on. If that's all Bard has coming in, your team is in trouble.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2008, 01:25:34 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2008, 01:25:34 PM
purchase's backup point guard, also with the same first name, could take him but the new starting pg, as i said, a d1 scholarship player, is going to manhandle him.
I still say that Purchase's lack of names will hurt them. You know the name of Bard players, but not Purchase, it appears.
Here, I'll make it easier for you- fill in the blank.
"Purchase's starting point guard, (INSERT FIRST NAME HERE) (INSERT LAST NAME HERE) will be left utterly helpless by the Sous Chef of Slam, Justin White."
I still say that Purchase's lack of names will hurt them. You know the name of Bard players, but not Purchase, it appears.
Here, I'll make it easier for you- fill in the blank.
"Purchase's starting point guard, (INSERT FIRST NAME HERE) (INSERT LAST NAME HERE) will be left utterly helpless by the Sous Chef of Slam, Justin White."
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 13, 2008, 01:52:42 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 13, 2008, 01:52:42 PM
anyone want to tell my why we are talking about bard ... dont waste your time talking about how good they are going to be - newsflash ! they will finish in the bottom three this year.
by the way ... heard this infamous PG is from one of the UNC campuses
by the way ... heard this infamous PG is from one of the UNC campuses
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2008, 03:02:53 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2008, 03:02:53 PM
newsflash ! they will finish in the bottom three this year.
Not a chance. The conference even has conceded the likely order of finish before the season begins.
http://www.skylineconference.org/sport.asp?path=mbball
Not a chance. The conference even has conceded the likely order of finish before the season begins.
http://www.skylineconference.org/sport.asp?path=mbball
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 13, 2008, 03:45:41 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 13, 2008, 03:45:41 PM
raptormania i can understand school spirit but your comments about the bard program are more then a little annoying, bottom line bard is a bottom teir team not just in the skyline but in any conference. no offense but isnt bard the school that lost to Cal Tech who lost over 60 straight games and has players on the team who didnt play hs bball??
with that being said who are the top 5 players in the skyline this year in no order, here are my pics....
David Acree
Damien Santana
Alex Kuchar
Gordon from Yeshiva
Shannon from Farmingdale
with that being said who are the top 5 players in the skyline this year in no order, here are my pics....
David Acree
Damien Santana
Alex Kuchar
Gordon from Yeshiva
Shannon from Farmingdale
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 13, 2008, 04:14:23 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 13, 2008, 04:14:23 PM
and while we are on the subject, who ever purchase's new pg is i wish him the best but fact is fact no matter where he went to school or who recruited him he plays at purchase so he is a DIII player not a DI player playing DIII. how bout we wait and see how well he does before we crown him best pg in the conference. I played in the skyline and had the pleasure of playing against santana his fr. and soph and im sure he's gotten alot better since then. I would put his skills up against anyones.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 13, 2008, 04:26:19 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 13, 2008, 04:26:19 PM
well put zones...
heres my top 5
Santana (FSC)
Gordon (YU)
Acree (SJC)
Johnson (MSV)
James (OW)
heres my top 5
Santana (FSC)
Gordon (YU)
Acree (SJC)
Johnson (MSV)
James (OW)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2008, 05:05:18 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2008, 05:05:18 PM
raptormania i can understand school spirit but your comments about the bard program are more then a little annoying, bottom line bard is a bottom teir team not just in the skyline but in any conference.
My apologies for talking about one of the Skyline Conference basketball teams on the Skyline Conference basketball message board. In retrospect, I should have realized how out of line I was.
If by "bottom teir" you mean "first place", then obviously you are correct. I'll assume this is what you mean, since I don't know what a "teir" is.
My apologies for talking about one of the Skyline Conference basketball teams on the Skyline Conference basketball message board. In retrospect, I should have realized how out of line I was.
If by "bottom teir" you mean "first place", then obviously you are correct. I'll assume this is what you mean, since I don't know what a "teir" is.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 13, 2008, 05:10:36 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 13, 2008, 05:10:36 PM
2008-09 Season Preview
Reloaded Panthers Could Challenge for Skyline Crown
Purchase, NY (Nov. 11, 2008) – It's hard to take anything away from a 3-22 season, but as the Purchase College men's basketball program gets ready to embark on their 2008-09 campaign, there's a lot to be excited about with a revamped roster and a full season under head coach Jeff Charney.
Charney, who had the interim tag removed from his job title moving into this season, replaced Denny Carroll last year midseason. Purchase steadily improved under Charney in the second half, challenging several Skyline opponents. Despite improved play, the Panthers win-loss record still took a hit as they suffered another losing season, falling to 3-22 and 2-16 in the league.
Purchase Athletic Director Ernie Palmieri named Charney, a well-known recruiter and a coach that has had success in three sports at the high school and college levels, a chance to turn the program around as the new head coach.
Charney wasted little time adding former UNC-Charlotte guard Jerrell Lewis and DII standouts Marvin Billups and Corey Orgias from the University of New Haven to the fold.
Lewis, a 6-2 point guard averaged 18 points, five assists and three rebounds in four years at New Hampton Prep. The former New England Class A All-Star had some high-scoring efforts, including a 28-point performance at the Fork Union Tournament where he scored 28 against Bridgton. In his two playing seasons at UNC-Charlotte, Lewis, who played on the same prep school team as NBA forward Rashad McCants, averaged 0.4 points and 0.3 rebounds in 28 games played. He had nine assists and two steals.
Billups, a 6-5 swingman, attended Monroe-Woodbury High School and led the team in scoring, rebounding, field goal percentage, steals and assists as the team won the Section 9 Championship his senior year. He was named team MVP and Gatorade Rookie of the Year, among other honors. He was a top recruit for New Haven before deciding to come to Purchase to play for Charney.
Billups' recruitment also helped Charney land Orgias, a teammate of Billups at New Haven. The forward averaged 12 points and10 rebounds per game in high school and was another standout recruit at New Haven. Billups and Orgias also won a National Prep School Championship in 2007 at Notre Dame Prep in Massachusetts.
In addition to Charney's star recruiting class, Purchase returns All-Skyline guard Tyriq Harrington, who averaged 18.6 points per game, forward Kazeem Famuyide (13.5 points, 6.5 rebounds) and senior co-captain Henry Farrarin. The Panthers also return sharp-shooting guard Chad Charney, reserves Chris Evangelista and Maurice Richardson, and welcome back point guard Justin Walters, who did not play with the team last season. Newcomers also include transfers John Simmons and Charles Britz.
Purchase was picked 7th in the Skyline Pre-Season Poll, but several coaches ranked the Panthers higher and now consider the team a legit contender in the league.
-Bobby Ciafardini, SID
Reloaded Panthers Could Challenge for Skyline Crown
Purchase, NY (Nov. 11, 2008) – It's hard to take anything away from a 3-22 season, but as the Purchase College men's basketball program gets ready to embark on their 2008-09 campaign, there's a lot to be excited about with a revamped roster and a full season under head coach Jeff Charney.
Charney, who had the interim tag removed from his job title moving into this season, replaced Denny Carroll last year midseason. Purchase steadily improved under Charney in the second half, challenging several Skyline opponents. Despite improved play, the Panthers win-loss record still took a hit as they suffered another losing season, falling to 3-22 and 2-16 in the league.
Purchase Athletic Director Ernie Palmieri named Charney, a well-known recruiter and a coach that has had success in three sports at the high school and college levels, a chance to turn the program around as the new head coach.
Charney wasted little time adding former UNC-Charlotte guard Jerrell Lewis and DII standouts Marvin Billups and Corey Orgias from the University of New Haven to the fold.
Lewis, a 6-2 point guard averaged 18 points, five assists and three rebounds in four years at New Hampton Prep. The former New England Class A All-Star had some high-scoring efforts, including a 28-point performance at the Fork Union Tournament where he scored 28 against Bridgton. In his two playing seasons at UNC-Charlotte, Lewis, who played on the same prep school team as NBA forward Rashad McCants, averaged 0.4 points and 0.3 rebounds in 28 games played. He had nine assists and two steals.
Billups, a 6-5 swingman, attended Monroe-Woodbury High School and led the team in scoring, rebounding, field goal percentage, steals and assists as the team won the Section 9 Championship his senior year. He was named team MVP and Gatorade Rookie of the Year, among other honors. He was a top recruit for New Haven before deciding to come to Purchase to play for Charney.
Billups' recruitment also helped Charney land Orgias, a teammate of Billups at New Haven. The forward averaged 12 points and10 rebounds per game in high school and was another standout recruit at New Haven. Billups and Orgias also won a National Prep School Championship in 2007 at Notre Dame Prep in Massachusetts.
In addition to Charney's star recruiting class, Purchase returns All-Skyline guard Tyriq Harrington, who averaged 18.6 points per game, forward Kazeem Famuyide (13.5 points, 6.5 rebounds) and senior co-captain Henry Farrarin. The Panthers also return sharp-shooting guard Chad Charney, reserves Chris Evangelista and Maurice Richardson, and welcome back point guard Justin Walters, who did not play with the team last season. Newcomers also include transfers John Simmons and Charles Britz.
Purchase was picked 7th in the Skyline Pre-Season Poll, but several coaches ranked the Panthers higher and now consider the team a legit contender in the league.
-Bobby Ciafardini, SID
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 13, 2008, 05:37:22 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 13, 2008, 05:37:22 PM
Also,
Zachary Gordon isn't on Yeshiva's roster if anyone has looked so don't be so quick in mentioning him as one of the top 5 players in the conference.
As for the other guys, I would put Joe Cooke from MSV in there along with any one of the three new Purchase transfers. Billups can jump out of the gym and will be the most exciting player to watch in the conference. Ogrias is a big guy with great footwork and an excellent 15 footer and Lewis is lightning fast with ridiculous shooting range, ferocious defense on top of being the strongest PG in the league.
So the word is out.
Anyone who thinks Polytech or Maritime should be in the top 5 for this conference is absolutely insane. Maritime's ONLY player was Webb last year and guess what? He's in the ABA now. They almost lost to LAST YEAR's purchase team WITH WEBB so what makes anyone think they're going to win more than 6 games without him? As for Polytech, what do they have? They LOST TO PURCHASE last year. Wow.
These rankings are going to be revised immediately. It's a three team conference -
Farmingdale, Purchase, Old Westbury. Enjoy the season.
Zachary Gordon isn't on Yeshiva's roster if anyone has looked so don't be so quick in mentioning him as one of the top 5 players in the conference.
As for the other guys, I would put Joe Cooke from MSV in there along with any one of the three new Purchase transfers. Billups can jump out of the gym and will be the most exciting player to watch in the conference. Ogrias is a big guy with great footwork and an excellent 15 footer and Lewis is lightning fast with ridiculous shooting range, ferocious defense on top of being the strongest PG in the league.
So the word is out.
Anyone who thinks Polytech or Maritime should be in the top 5 for this conference is absolutely insane. Maritime's ONLY player was Webb last year and guess what? He's in the ABA now. They almost lost to LAST YEAR's purchase team WITH WEBB so what makes anyone think they're going to win more than 6 games without him? As for Polytech, what do they have? They LOST TO PURCHASE last year. Wow.
These rankings are going to be revised immediately. It's a three team conference -
Farmingdale, Purchase, Old Westbury. Enjoy the season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2008, 05:49:20 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2008, 05:49:20 PM
"Purchase was picked 7th in the Skyline Pre-Season Poll, but several coaches ranked the Panthers higher and now consider the team a legit contender in the league."
Doesn't this mean that several coaches also thought they were worse than seventh?
But man, I'm now convinced. when Purchase's own SID talks about how good the team is, that is the unbiased observer I have been waiting for. Where do I get the championship t-shirts?
Doesn't this mean that several coaches also thought they were worse than seventh?
But man, I'm now convinced. when Purchase's own SID talks about how good the team is, that is the unbiased observer I have been waiting for. Where do I get the championship t-shirts?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 13, 2008, 07:30:33 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 13, 2008, 07:30:33 PM
I totally forgot about Cooke ... awsome ball player subtract Johnson and add Cooke to my list
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 13, 2008, 08:22:23 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 13, 2008, 08:22:23 PM
I dont remember joe cook being a real force but then again i played against him his fr. and soph years so im sure he has improved. even still no matter where the players from purchase used to play they are DIII players which means they have DIII talent. UNC charlotte is a legit program Im sure if this guy was a true DI player he would have landed at a smaller DI or DII school not dropping all the way to a 3-22 DIII team, and i am in no way bashing him.
and with raptor's comment about purchases' SID kind of like a fan on a message board with the school mascot in his tag name right. Totally unbiased
my top 5 in the conference
Farmingdale
St. Joes
Old Westbury
Mount St Marys
Anyone else.................
and with raptor's comment about purchases' SID kind of like a fan on a message board with the school mascot in his tag name right. Totally unbiased
my top 5 in the conference
Farmingdale
St. Joes
Old Westbury
Mount St Marys
Anyone else.................
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 13, 2008, 09:10:23 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 13, 2008, 09:10:23 PM
wow you people are REALLLLY underestimating purchase, especially you, zone.
The UNC Charlotte kid is related to one of the New Haven guys and they have been playing together for quite some time. You might say he's a "D3" talent but that's not really the case. He could have stayed at UNC or gone to another D2 school and practically any D3 he wanted to...he went to purchase b/c as i said, his cousin did.
For your information, Purchase beat D2 Nyack in a scrimmage, without the D1 kid playing and without the D2 guys in the second half. I'm not mentioning that the returning players for Purchase...Harrington (All Skyline 2nd team), Famuyide & Ferrarin are much improved and one of the other transfers, Britz, came from Mt. St. Vincent and can 360 dunk.
Speaking of that, they're having a pep rally at 8:45 PM tomorrow night. If you want to see them for yourself, show up. Otherwise wait until next weekend when they beat New Paltz and the winner of the York/Hartwick game to take that tournament down.
The UNC Charlotte kid is related to one of the New Haven guys and they have been playing together for quite some time. You might say he's a "D3" talent but that's not really the case. He could have stayed at UNC or gone to another D2 school and practically any D3 he wanted to...he went to purchase b/c as i said, his cousin did.
For your information, Purchase beat D2 Nyack in a scrimmage, without the D1 kid playing and without the D2 guys in the second half. I'm not mentioning that the returning players for Purchase...Harrington (All Skyline 2nd team), Famuyide & Ferrarin are much improved and one of the other transfers, Britz, came from Mt. St. Vincent and can 360 dunk.
Speaking of that, they're having a pep rally at 8:45 PM tomorrow night. If you want to see them for yourself, show up. Otherwise wait until next weekend when they beat New Paltz and the winner of the York/Hartwick game to take that tournament down.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 13, 2008, 09:19:31 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 13, 2008, 09:19:31 PM
im not doubting im just saying i do want to see for myself, i remember playing against charlie britz he is tough why did he leave the mount. and im not doubt the talent of lewis (we can stop calling him the DI kid)
I just dont understand why a Legit D1 kid would PAY to go to school.
I just dont understand why a Legit D1 kid would PAY to go to school.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on November 13, 2008, 09:52:11 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on November 13, 2008, 09:52:11 PM
D3Hero:
I don't get why you are so surprised that people are underestimating a team who was 3-23 last year. Regardless of who they brought in, you can't expect people to just hop on the bandwagon. Look at last year in the CUNYAC, nobody was talking about Brooklyn College in the preseason. It took them about a month to get noticed, and they started out 6-1, 2-0 in the conference. Point being, that until Purchase goes out and gets a big conference win, they will not be respected. Respect is to be earned in the NCAA.
I don't get why you are so surprised that people are underestimating a team who was 3-23 last year. Regardless of who they brought in, you can't expect people to just hop on the bandwagon. Look at last year in the CUNYAC, nobody was talking about Brooklyn College in the preseason. It took them about a month to get noticed, and they started out 6-1, 2-0 in the conference. Point being, that until Purchase goes out and gets a big conference win, they will not be respected. Respect is to be earned in the NCAA.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2008, 11:47:32 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 13, 2008, 11:47:32 PM
"and with raptor's comment about purchases' SID kind of like a fan on a message board with the school mascot in his tag name right. Totally unbiased"
I assume the fact that Bard has owned Purchase in recent years is biased as well. Perhaps final scores are prejudiced against SUNY schools?
I assume the fact that Bard has owned Purchase in recent years is biased as well. Perhaps final scores are prejudiced against SUNY schools?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 14, 2008, 09:12:35 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 14, 2008, 09:12:35 AM
you must be prejudice against final scores seeing the numbers Bard has put up, and the comments you continue to make
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 14, 2008, 10:52:43 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 14, 2008, 10:52:43 AM
Which one of these points of view is reality-based?
1. Bard has owned Purchase, and will continue to do so.
2. A great point guard angel has descended from on high, or possibly North Carolina, to magically lead Purchase to greatness. Unfortunately, I don't know his name.
I'll go with number one.
1. Bard has owned Purchase, and will continue to do so.
2. A great point guard angel has descended from on high, or possibly North Carolina, to magically lead Purchase to greatness. Unfortunately, I don't know his name.
I'll go with number one.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 14, 2008, 11:07:31 AM
Post by: MMTPdthree on November 14, 2008, 11:07:31 AM
didnt joe cooke transfer from manhattanville to the Mount ?
hes not the biggest kid ... 6'2 , good speed, knocks down soooooo many jumpers
hes not the biggest kid ... 6'2 , good speed, knocks down soooooo many jumpers
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 14, 2008, 02:44:08 PM
Post by: raptor31 on November 14, 2008, 02:44:08 PM
You gotta love how discussion about two of last years worst Skyline teams has dominated the board. Let's bring some reason to all this though. Purchase and their new roster that could apparently win the NESCAC is unproven and we haven't seen how a couple kids that weren't good enough for a higher level will do at this level. The Skyline has a ton of players that could avg .4 and .3 at a low DI School. I am sure with the additions it won't be a 2 win campaign again but let's take it easy before we give them the automatic bid.
As for Bard. The program has been a work in progress for the past 8 years and Coach Wood should be commended for his efforts in taking a program that was 0-25 against bad DIII's and non affiliated programs to a place where they are competitive in a recognized conference. The Raptors hung with Farmingdale at home last year, gave Old Westbury all it wanted and lost a handful of games in overtime and the last 3 minutres. Let's be realistic though, a playoff berth is within their grasp but I wouldn't go out and say they are a top tier team yet.
If you haven't seen my guy Justin White play this year go check him out. Santana and Acree are phenomenal players but J will be right there with them this season. He has taken tremendous strides as a junior and it showed in the Vassar scrimmage where he put up 20+ pointss, 9 assists (could have been 13) and 5 steals. He was clearly the best player on the court and had people in the crowd wondering how he ever got to Bard. He has put a ton of effort into it and deserves all the credit.
Should be an exciting weekend as the Raptors kick it off against Plymouth St. tomorrow.
As for Bard. The program has been a work in progress for the past 8 years and Coach Wood should be commended for his efforts in taking a program that was 0-25 against bad DIII's and non affiliated programs to a place where they are competitive in a recognized conference. The Raptors hung with Farmingdale at home last year, gave Old Westbury all it wanted and lost a handful of games in overtime and the last 3 minutres. Let's be realistic though, a playoff berth is within their grasp but I wouldn't go out and say they are a top tier team yet.
If you haven't seen my guy Justin White play this year go check him out. Santana and Acree are phenomenal players but J will be right there with them this season. He has taken tremendous strides as a junior and it showed in the Vassar scrimmage where he put up 20+ pointss, 9 assists (could have been 13) and 5 steals. He was clearly the best player on the court and had people in the crowd wondering how he ever got to Bard. He has put a ton of effort into it and deserves all the credit.
Should be an exciting weekend as the Raptors kick it off against Plymouth St. tomorrow.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 14, 2008, 07:20:50 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 14, 2008, 07:20:50 PM
"Let's be realistic though, a playoff berth is within their grasp but I wouldn't go out and say they are a top tier team yet."
A playoff berth plus a few wins equals a championship.
Let's be realistic though...Raptormania! is spreading.
A playoff berth plus a few wins equals a championship.
Let's be realistic though...Raptormania! is spreading.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 15, 2008, 02:15:07 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 15, 2008, 02:15:07 PM
well you people missed an exciting slam dunk contest last night. unfortunate... but don't worry. purchase will be bringing that contest to a gym near you soon!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 15, 2008, 02:51:07 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 15, 2008, 02:51:07 PM
All trash-talk aside, I sure hope so- I'd love to see Purchase become a big Skyline player. Love the school, have always enjoyed the people when I attend Bard/Purchase games there. I even called my first postseason game at the Purchase gym, when Bard made the HVMAC tournament back in 2000-2001. I wish Purchase luck- except in two contests.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 15, 2008, 10:51:53 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 15, 2008, 10:51:53 PM
Stevens just beat Polytech by 40 points. Ramapo beat Yeshiva by 50.
Polytech is ranked higher than Purchase in this conference?
Things are going to change REAL fast.
OH yeah....Bard lost tonight, too.
Polytech is ranked higher than Purchase in this conference?
Things are going to change REAL fast.
OH yeah....Bard lost tonight, too.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 15, 2008, 10:55:36 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 15, 2008, 10:55:36 PM
wow...
i just noticed that bard's two only scorers are both guards, 6'0" (generous height given to White) and 5'11" Martin. Bard has absolutely no inside presence and their two "scorers" are not what i would call excellent.
OH yeah, MSM won tonight by like 60 points but they played a non-ncaa opponent.
i just noticed that bard's two only scorers are both guards, 6'0" (generous height given to White) and 5'11" Martin. Bard has absolutely no inside presence and their two "scorers" are not what i would call excellent.
OH yeah, MSM won tonight by like 60 points but they played a non-ncaa opponent.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 15, 2008, 11:07:33 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 15, 2008, 11:07:33 PM
While St Joe's Bklyn is not in the Skyline, this seemed to be the best place for a report. 2 point win for the Bears tonight over Mt Aloysius in the Mounties own tourney.
Freshman Antoine Forehand (Rice) dropped 21 to be high scorer. Senior Ervin MAddox (St Peter's) had 12 points (with 2 asst to go with the points). With his output tonight Maddox eclipsed the 1,000 point mark for his career.Congratulations to the Bears and to Maddox. Anyone familiar with NYC d3 bball would know who Maddox is, he is almost always the smallest guy on the court however he is extremely talented and when he is playing like he did tonight he is one of the region's best guards. Congratulations Ervin!
In Skyline news, Stevens Tech put a hurting on the Polytech boys. My friend told me DeMarco wasnt in attendance for Poly, not sure why??
From Stevens' website:
The Ducks rolled 91-54 over Polytechnic University in the 2008-09 Stevens Tip-Off Tournament on Saturday night in Hoboken at the Canavan Arena. Senior guard Anthony Passalacqua scored a game-high 22 points to lead the Ducks, and fellow senior Virgil Gray poured in 21. Junior guard Matt Higgins recorded a double-double with 11 points and a game-high 13 rebounds as Stevens jumped out to a 25 point halftime lead and never looked back.
Stevens looking strong again looks like first year head coach Hurley should be pleased with his teams start.
Any info on the Yeshiva rout???
Freshman Antoine Forehand (Rice) dropped 21 to be high scorer. Senior Ervin MAddox (St Peter's) had 12 points (with 2 asst to go with the points). With his output tonight Maddox eclipsed the 1,000 point mark for his career.Congratulations to the Bears and to Maddox. Anyone familiar with NYC d3 bball would know who Maddox is, he is almost always the smallest guy on the court however he is extremely talented and when he is playing like he did tonight he is one of the region's best guards. Congratulations Ervin!
In Skyline news, Stevens Tech put a hurting on the Polytech boys. My friend told me DeMarco wasnt in attendance for Poly, not sure why??
From Stevens' website:
The Ducks rolled 91-54 over Polytechnic University in the 2008-09 Stevens Tip-Off Tournament on Saturday night in Hoboken at the Canavan Arena. Senior guard Anthony Passalacqua scored a game-high 22 points to lead the Ducks, and fellow senior Virgil Gray poured in 21. Junior guard Matt Higgins recorded a double-double with 11 points and a game-high 13 rebounds as Stevens jumped out to a 25 point halftime lead and never looked back.
Stevens looking strong again looks like first year head coach Hurley should be pleased with his teams start.
Any info on the Yeshiva rout???
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 16, 2008, 03:19:12 AM
Post by: d3hero on November 16, 2008, 03:19:12 AM
Zach Gordon transferred out leaving with Yeshiva the weakest roster it has had in over a decade. They're going to have a horrendous year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 16, 2008, 10:56:20 AM
Post by: raptor31 on November 16, 2008, 10:56:20 AM
Bard lost first game of the season but Justin White scored 27 pts to kick off what is going to be a special year for him. All he needs is a couple of the other guys to come along and watch out. This is still a developing team as they have 0 seniors and a crop of freshmen and sophomores that are getting the first major playing time of their college careers.
Down 2 to Plymouth St. with 2 min left at their place is nothing to hang their heads about. As this team continues to develop and a few of the young guys get their legs under them they won't lose a game like that. James Martin (who also had a great game in the scrimmage against Vassar) will have a nice year and be a big player in the Bard transition game along with White. He gives Justin something Bard hasn't had since the days of Collin Orcutt, a natural athlete on the wing who is great in the open court. Good luck to the Raptors today against Centenary, should be a big first win of the season.
How did the hyped up Purchase team to btw? Didn't see a score.
Down 2 to Plymouth St. with 2 min left at their place is nothing to hang their heads about. As this team continues to develop and a few of the young guys get their legs under them they won't lose a game like that. James Martin (who also had a great game in the scrimmage against Vassar) will have a nice year and be a big player in the Bard transition game along with White. He gives Justin something Bard hasn't had since the days of Collin Orcutt, a natural athlete on the wing who is great in the open court. Good luck to the Raptors today against Centenary, should be a big first win of the season.
How did the hyped up Purchase team to btw? Didn't see a score.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 16, 2008, 12:03:36 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 16, 2008, 12:03:36 PM
not so fast raptor, centenary played a great game last night against wheaton who is alot better then the plymouth team bard faced. the cyclones are much improved and it should be THEIR first win of the year. nice game by white last night but, when your two best players are 5'9 and 5'10 its gonna be really hard to win games anywhere Baker should dominate in the post for the cyclones today and 6'5 swingman kearney the raptors just dont have a match up for.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 16, 2008, 02:20:00 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 16, 2008, 02:20:00 PM
Quote from: d3hero on November 16, 2008, 03:19:12 AMYeah, I just found out he transferred to Penn and is sitting out this year. That's a pretty big jump up in competition. It'll be interesting to see how he does there.
Zach Gordon transferred out leaving with Yeshiva the weakest roster it has had in over a decade. They're going to have a horrendous year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on November 16, 2008, 02:38:02 PM
Post by: CityD3 on November 16, 2008, 02:38:02 PM
i've seen st. joe's play a couple cuny's over the past few years. maddox is a tough kid wit a lot a game. congrats to him. I did notice that mount aloysius was missing their best player mcnutt, but it is an impressive win for the potential skyline team (they are in the provisional process.) it will be interesting to see how they do against catholic in the championship.
Quote from: BklynBasketball on November 15, 2008, 11:07:33 PM
While St Joe's Bklyn is not in the Skyline, this seemed to be the best place for a report. 2 point win for the Bears tonight over Mt Aloysius in the Mounties own tourney.
Freshman Antoine Forehand (Rice) dropped 21 to be high scorer. Senior Ervin MAddox (St Peter's) had 12 points (with 2 asst to go with the points). With his output tonight Maddox eclipsed the 1,000 point mark for his career.Congratulations to the Bears and to Maddox. Anyone familiar with NYC d3 bball would know who Maddox is, he is almost always the smallest guy on the court however he is extremely talented and when he is playing like he did tonight he is one of the region's best guards. Congratulations Ervin!
In Skyline news, Stevens Tech put a hurting on the Polytech boys. My friend told me DeMarco wasnt in attendance for Poly, not sure why??
From Stevens' website:
The Ducks rolled 91-54 over Polytechnic University in the 2008-09 Stevens Tip-Off Tournament on Saturday night in Hoboken at the Canavan Arena. Senior guard Anthony Passalacqua scored a game-high 22 points to lead the Ducks, and fellow senior Virgil Gray poured in 21. Junior guard Matt Higgins recorded a double-double with 11 points and a game-high 13 rebounds as Stevens jumped out to a 25 point halftime lead and never looked back.
Stevens looking strong again looks like first year head coach Hurley should be pleased with his teams start.
Any info on the Yeshiva rout???
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 16, 2008, 04:02:42 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 16, 2008, 04:02:42 PM
Centenary over Bard. Great game from Sophs Will Atkinson and Rob Urie. Also Baker with good game as well
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 17, 2008, 03:23:18 AM
Post by: d3hero on November 17, 2008, 03:23:18 AM
91-54, 82-49.
Whoever picked Polytech #5 in this conference pre-season must have been absolutely wasted.
Whoever picked Polytech #5 in this conference pre-season must have been absolutely wasted.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 17, 2008, 09:21:17 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 17, 2008, 09:21:17 AM
"i just noticed that bard's two only scorers are both guards, 6'0" (generous height given to White) and 5'11" Martin. Bard has absolutely no inside presence and their two "scorers" are not what i would call excellent."
Sad when people make broad roster judgments based on one game.
Bard' best returning interior player, Eli Strauss, is still recovering from a broken finger, but no more than a week away. Alvarez-Ringer and Hinton are freshmen with solid, developing games.
But after a pair of heartbreaking losses, I'm excited for a competitve season in the Skyline. As Raptor31 said, I expect a tremendous season with Bard in contention- and a Bard team that gets better as the season progresses.
Sad when people make broad roster judgments based on one game.
Bard' best returning interior player, Eli Strauss, is still recovering from a broken finger, but no more than a week away. Alvarez-Ringer and Hinton are freshmen with solid, developing games.
But after a pair of heartbreaking losses, I'm excited for a competitve season in the Skyline. As Raptor31 said, I expect a tremendous season with Bard in contention- and a Bard team that gets better as the season progresses.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 17, 2008, 11:49:39 AM
Post by: raptor31 on November 17, 2008, 11:49:39 AM
Coming out 0-2 obviously not what Bard wanted but I am more optimistic about this unit than I have ever been. Coming out 0-2 there isn't a sense of panic within the program. All of the guys know they need to get back to work in practice this week and keep getting better every day. This might not seem like a big deal but a lot of teams fall apart when they open 0-2 and never recover. Expect the best from this group in February.
Either game this weekend could have gone either way, Justin White missed a front end with little time left that could have beaten Centenary and in the Plymouth game they just got outplayed in the final 2. For a young team winning these close games is all about experience and getting guys used to making plays down the stretch. James Martin and Chris Margella are both in primary roles and weren't called on as freshmen to make these plays. It will take a little period of time for these guys to adjust to making the plays Washington and Arocho did last year.
On a big time positive noted, even with White having a terrible game Bard managed to be in position to win with big time games by David Polette (who people better take notice of because he will have a big time shooting year), Margella and freshman Yonah Greenstein. They combined to shoot 12-19 from 3. With those types of shooters around White and Martin you can count on this to be another fun Raptor team to watch play. Let's go get them next weekend in D'Youville!
Either game this weekend could have gone either way, Justin White missed a front end with little time left that could have beaten Centenary and in the Plymouth game they just got outplayed in the final 2. For a young team winning these close games is all about experience and getting guys used to making plays down the stretch. James Martin and Chris Margella are both in primary roles and weren't called on as freshmen to make these plays. It will take a little period of time for these guys to adjust to making the plays Washington and Arocho did last year.
On a big time positive noted, even with White having a terrible game Bard managed to be in position to win with big time games by David Polette (who people better take notice of because he will have a big time shooting year), Margella and freshman Yonah Greenstein. They combined to shoot 12-19 from 3. With those types of shooters around White and Martin you can count on this to be another fun Raptor team to watch play. Let's go get them next weekend in D'Youville!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 17, 2008, 12:03:23 PM
Post by: raptor31 on November 17, 2008, 12:03:23 PM
And... height doesn't matter in D3, especially amongst guards. You can put a 6'3 kid on White or Martin, they are simply to physical and athletic for it to matter. I will also take them as the best rebounding backcourt in the Skyline. If you want to talk about height as a detractor you should talk about the frontcourts. Fortunately, Bard has 3 guys over 6'5 this year so it should be a little better situation than the past but frontcourt defense and rebounding are still big question marks. Like everything else with this young team, development of the frontcourt will make or break exactly how far this team can go.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 17, 2008, 12:20:37 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 17, 2008, 12:20:37 PM
best rebounding backcourt in the skyline?
i don't think so, boss. I would say that MSM, MSV, Farmingdale, Old West, St. Joe's & Purchase all have better rebounding backcourts.
i don't think so, boss. I would say that MSM, MSV, Farmingdale, Old West, St. Joe's & Purchase all have better rebounding backcourts.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 17, 2008, 02:43:15 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 17, 2008, 02:43:15 PM
why is everyone trying to make BARD sound better then they are, they have small guards point blank period and size does matter on any level. i graduated in 2007 and was and scored 1167 career points i honestly believe i would have had close to 1400 if i didnt have to play against 6'3 to 6'6 wingmen that altered my shot. how can you be more physical with someone who really doesnt have to guard you just play off of you and use their length to alter a shot.
I loved playing smaller guards when i played because i knew i had an advantage, and the only smaller guard that i can honestly say got the best of me was Mike Hoyt.
I loved playing smaller guards when i played because i knew i had an advantage, and the only smaller guard that i can honestly say got the best of me was Mike Hoyt.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 17, 2008, 02:56:30 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 17, 2008, 02:56:30 PM
"how can you be more physical with someone who really doesnt have to guard you just play off of you and use their length to alter a shot."
You've heard of quickness, right? Just curious.
In a related note- why don't the tallest guards always become the best guards? Seek the answer deep within yourself, and you'll find the answer.
You've heard of quickness, right? Just curious.
In a related note- why don't the tallest guards always become the best guards? Seek the answer deep within yourself, and you'll find the answer.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 17, 2008, 03:02:49 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 17, 2008, 03:02:49 PM
"why is everyone trying to make BARD sound better then they are, they have small guards point blank period and size does matter on any level."
-Gotta love this!
-Gotta love this!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 17, 2008, 03:33:04 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 17, 2008, 03:33:04 PM
big guards arent the best, kobe, lebron, jordan all 6'6 and above and play guard. granted the bigger guards at the DIII level arent as talented but ask any coach they will tell you that you cant Teach height!! and i believe any coach in the skyline will take a 6'4 wing over a slightly quicker 6'0 wing in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 17, 2008, 10:03:58 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 17, 2008, 10:03:58 PM
97-44 Purchase over Pratt.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 17, 2008, 10:06:03 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 17, 2008, 10:06:03 PM
"big guards arent the best, kobe, lebron, jordan all 6'6 and above and play guard. granted the bigger guards at the DIII level arent as talented but ask any coach they will tell you that you cant Teach height!! and i believe any coach in the skyline will take a 6'4 wing over a slightly quicker 6'0 wing in a heartbeat."
This is true. Justin White isn't as good as LeBron James. You got me.
I assume you'd also trade Chris Paul (6'0", 175) for Mardy Collins (6'6", 220). And Tony Parker (6'2", 180) for Rodney Stuckey (6'5", 205).
Justin White gets to the basket, and scores, against anyone I've seen guard him. Taller, shorter, double-teams-doesn't matter. Go ahead, put a guy on him who is a few inches taller and assume you will lock him down. Good luck with that.
And godspeed to Chris Paul, who could have had a decent NBA career, if only he were taller.
This is true. Justin White isn't as good as LeBron James. You got me.
I assume you'd also trade Chris Paul (6'0", 175) for Mardy Collins (6'6", 220). And Tony Parker (6'2", 180) for Rodney Stuckey (6'5", 205).
Justin White gets to the basket, and scores, against anyone I've seen guard him. Taller, shorter, double-teams-doesn't matter. Go ahead, put a guy on him who is a few inches taller and assume you will lock him down. Good luck with that.
And godspeed to Chris Paul, who could have had a decent NBA career, if only he were taller.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 17, 2008, 10:07:23 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 17, 2008, 10:07:23 PM
I remember Pratt-ah, the old Hudson Valley Men's Athletic Conference!
I'm more interested in Purchase's work in the New Paltz tourney- what are the pairings for that, anyway?
I'm more interested in Purchase's work in the New Paltz tourney- what are the pairings for that, anyway?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 18, 2008, 01:45:59 AM
Post by: d3hero on November 18, 2008, 01:45:59 AM
Purchase v. New Paltz
York v. Hartwick
My predictions?
Purchase over New Paltz
York over Hartwick
Purchase over York
New Paltz over Hartwick
York v. Hartwick
My predictions?
Purchase over New Paltz
York over Hartwick
Purchase over York
New Paltz over Hartwick
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 18, 2008, 04:57:59 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 18, 2008, 04:57:59 AM
justin white is also 0-2
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 18, 2008, 10:41:25 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 18, 2008, 10:41:25 AM
"justin white is also 0-2"
Cmon, thats unfair. To discuss your opinions about games and players is cool but to say a student athlete is 0 and 2 in a team sport is wrong. Give Justin White credit he is a very good player in a good conference. His team is 0 and 2, however will definitely contend for a spot in the playoffs this year. Be fair, singling a kid out like that isnt.
Cmon, thats unfair. To discuss your opinions about games and players is cool but to say a student athlete is 0 and 2 in a team sport is wrong. Give Justin White credit he is a very good player in a good conference. His team is 0 and 2, however will definitely contend for a spot in the playoffs this year. Be fair, singling a kid out like that isnt.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 18, 2008, 10:59:13 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 18, 2008, 10:59:13 AM
It makes sense- when his point got blown out of the water, he switched metrics. He's the same guy who claimed Centenary would dominate Bard, then claimed credit when Centenary won, 81-80.
I've had the pleasure of seeing Justin White develop as a player for two years, and am even more excited to see him continue to develop for the next two years.
Incidentally, I hope Purchase is developing, because A) it's good for both the program and the Skyline as a whole, and B) the same as usual Purchase team would get stomped by this edition of the Raptors.
And I also miss St. Joe's of Brooklyn as a rival- I wonder if they can get to the Skyline Conference soon. I hope so, and wish that team well. Their gym is one of my favorite road gyms.
I've had the pleasure of seeing Justin White develop as a player for two years, and am even more excited to see him continue to develop for the next two years.
Incidentally, I hope Purchase is developing, because A) it's good for both the program and the Skyline as a whole, and B) the same as usual Purchase team would get stomped by this edition of the Raptors.
And I also miss St. Joe's of Brooklyn as a rival- I wonder if they can get to the Skyline Conference soon. I hope so, and wish that team well. Their gym is one of my favorite road gyms.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 18, 2008, 11:10:09 AM
Post by: raptor31 on November 18, 2008, 11:10:09 AM
First of all, to my guy who scored 1,100 something points. I'm sorry your height gave you a disadvantage but my guy J White's doesn't. He will pass your 1,100 up this season and by the end of his career he will surpass the 1,500 mark so if you are saying with height he could have scored 2,000 you might be right. But on the same note with a little more height he would not be playing on this level, he would be a big time guard at a high level.
Does height give certain guys an advantage, sure! But you also can't take away from the guys who dominate taller player because of their physicality and athleticism. I can go through a list that will last all day if you want me to name smaller guards that play bigger for this exact reason. One of the toughest guys I ever played against was a kid Anthony Fitzgerald at Villa Julie. He was about 6'2 and ended up as an All-American big guy who avg close to 15 reb per game and scored over 1,500 pts. I don't care if you put a 6'8 kid on him it just didn't matter.
To my guy who stated that Justin White is 0-2 you have no idea what basketball is all about. Unfortunately, players don't get wins and losses by themselves. Bard could have easily been 1-1 out of this weekend if a couple things went differently, they didn't but for a young team this isn't necessarily a bad thing. I am sure a lot of the other younger teams in the Skyline will have the same growing process.
And d3 hero, you haven't seen the Bard backcourt rebound chief!
Does height give certain guys an advantage, sure! But you also can't take away from the guys who dominate taller player because of their physicality and athleticism. I can go through a list that will last all day if you want me to name smaller guards that play bigger for this exact reason. One of the toughest guys I ever played against was a kid Anthony Fitzgerald at Villa Julie. He was about 6'2 and ended up as an All-American big guy who avg close to 15 reb per game and scored over 1,500 pts. I don't care if you put a 6'8 kid on him it just didn't matter.
To my guy who stated that Justin White is 0-2 you have no idea what basketball is all about. Unfortunately, players don't get wins and losses by themselves. Bard could have easily been 1-1 out of this weekend if a couple things went differently, they didn't but for a young team this isn't necessarily a bad thing. I am sure a lot of the other younger teams in the Skyline will have the same growing process.
And d3 hero, you haven't seen the Bard backcourt rebound chief!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 18, 2008, 11:16:13 AM
Post by: raptor31 on November 18, 2008, 11:16:13 AM
Can we also just mention this board isn't a place to post individual career achievements from when you played, it is about the kids playing now and what they are doing. Anyone can come on here and state they scored 1,100 points. Not what it's about "zonecantstopme"
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 18, 2008, 11:26:08 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 18, 2008, 11:26:08 AM
LOL its a free world and I can type what I want especially when its relevant to the point I am trying to make, first off I understand what your saying about anthony fitzgerald i have played against him a bunch of times in mens leagues in Maryland most recently about three weeks ago. he is the perfect size for a DIII post but do you think he would have had the same success at another level????
I also believe that the conversation was about guards not posts like Fitz. and it seems that you keep mentioning POINT Guards while I keep mentioning Wing players. true both positions are guards so let me end this here. Any coach will take a 6'4 guard on the WING instead of a 6'0 guard but it might be different for the pg position which is naturally smaller.
Happy Now
I also believe that the conversation was about guards not posts like Fitz. and it seems that you keep mentioning POINT Guards while I keep mentioning Wing players. true both positions are guards so let me end this here. Any coach will take a 6'4 guard on the WING instead of a 6'0 guard but it might be different for the pg position which is naturally smaller.
Happy Now
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 18, 2008, 02:35:32 PM
Post by: raptor31 on November 18, 2008, 02:35:32 PM
Never said he would have been better at a higher level just said height didn't stop him from killing bigger kids. Height was the issue, not position. That is the only reason I brought it up. More specifically the height of J White was the issue, and he is a point. No big deal though. As a basketball coach I would not say I would always take a 6'4 wing over a 6'0 wing. Depends on skill set, toughness, athleticism... You can't just say you would take a kid who is 6'4 over any 6'0 kid. I'm sure we played against each other at some point and on the same level and as you know there are some 6'0 foot killers on this level. Two examples are the best two wings in the conference, Santana and Acree. You can't tell me "any coach" would take a 6'4 wing over those two (about 6'0 each) just because they are 6'4? If you are saying those two would be better at 6'4 that's not an argument, that's obvious. All I am saying.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 18, 2008, 10:06:05 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 18, 2008, 10:06:05 PM
MSV loses by 16 to Lehman...Farmingdale loses to Ramapo by 10.
I dont get Farmingdale's coach though...why not start their D1 transfer, Michael Campbell? He scored 24 off the bench in only 26 minutes but still...i don't get it.
If you have three excellent players in Santana, Campbell & Shannon, play them 33+, all starting together and then go with different units like what the Celtics do.
I think these three guys might be one of the best tandems in the conference but Purchase's Orgias, Billups & Lewis are going to be even better.
I dont get Farmingdale's coach though...why not start their D1 transfer, Michael Campbell? He scored 24 off the bench in only 26 minutes but still...i don't get it.
If you have three excellent players in Santana, Campbell & Shannon, play them 33+, all starting together and then go with different units like what the Celtics do.
I think these three guys might be one of the best tandems in the conference but Purchase's Orgias, Billups & Lewis are going to be even better.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 19, 2008, 01:10:44 AM
Post by: raptor31 on November 19, 2008, 01:10:44 AM
the hype continues. I will be at Stevenson Gym Dec 4 for Bard-Purchase and I will let you know if the hype is real. Gonna be tough for them to live up to this much hype but we will see...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on November 19, 2008, 06:35:39 PM
Post by: CityD3 on November 19, 2008, 06:35:39 PM
height obviously helps, but a player can absolutely overcome it. it aint easy but it can be done (especially at this level.) never seen this kid white play but based on his numbers i think he's overcome the vertically challenged thing. by the way i remember a raptor wearing the number 31. gotta be a lil more subtle with the user name AT.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 19, 2008, 09:49:40 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 19, 2008, 09:49:40 PM
Baruch over Polytech 91-66. Wow, 3 20+ point losses in a row. Way to go, 5th ranked team in the conference! That makes so little sense it's unbelievable.
RPI over Mount St. Mary, 77-70.
And wow...Yeshiva, a 15 point victory over awful, awful CCNY.
RPI over Mount St. Mary, 77-70.
And wow...Yeshiva, a 15 point victory over awful, awful CCNY.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 19, 2008, 11:34:39 PM
Post by: raptor31 on November 19, 2008, 11:34:39 PM
haha i am not trying to hide or be subtle at all, unlike most people on here I don't mind people knowing who I am. Who is city d3?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 20, 2008, 03:15:28 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 20, 2008, 03:15:28 PM
Raptor31 is the captain of Raptormania!'s tenth-anniversary team, set to be announced next year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 20, 2008, 03:48:31 PM
Post by: raptor31 on November 20, 2008, 03:48:31 PM
Once again, the board isn't about past bums who can come on here and talk about what we used to do it's about the kids playing now! Slept on freshman Yonah Greenstein is hitting 8 threes in 2 games to give Bard the Xfactor they need to win the D'Youville tourney. He is the guy Bard needs this year to open the court up and provide a scoring punch off the bench. People will know what Polette and Margella do shooting the ball and what White and Martin do from the guard spots, it is going to be the freshmen that need to provide something for Bard to get over the hump. D'Youville will be utterly dominated by Justin this weekend on the perimeter and will have to respect the players the scouting report will tell them can hurt them as well, so there should be a lot of opportunities for freshmen Greenstein, Alex Hinton and Forest Alvarez-Ringer to step up and prove themselves.
What is the rest of the Skyline up to this weekend?
What is the rest of the Skyline up to this weekend?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 20, 2008, 04:12:53 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 20, 2008, 04:12:53 PM
All true. But Raptor31, I've known bums. Bums are a friend of mine. And you, sir, are no bum.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 20, 2008, 09:40:38 PM
Post by: raptor31 on November 20, 2008, 09:40:38 PM
I guess this at some point became the Bard message board
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 20, 2008, 11:40:44 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 20, 2008, 11:40:44 PM
I have said it for years- it was only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 21, 2008, 10:41:18 AM
Post by: raptor31 on November 21, 2008, 10:41:18 AM
Finally saw the Plymouth St. game from the weekend online. Keep sleeping on this Bard team Skyline, there will be a few shockers in there. Just got rattled in the last 2 minutes and didn't get the ball in Justin's hand at the right times. Up until that point White had 27 points and was literally unstoppable. Can't wait to see him match up with a few kids in the Skyline, will be some fun games to watch in there.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 21, 2008, 11:24:13 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 21, 2008, 11:24:13 AM
Biggest thing I took out of the opening weekend was the performance by the trio of frosh- 11 points from Yonah, 8 and 8 from Forrest, 5 and 5 from Alex Hinton.
I already knew Justin White was unstoppable.
I already knew Justin White was unstoppable.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 21, 2008, 11:55:16 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 21, 2008, 11:55:16 AM
03 White, Justin....... * 4-17 1-9 6-7 0 0 0 2 15 6 6 0 3 38
really unstoppabel 24% shooting
11% 3pt percentage
0 rebounds
6 Turnovers
vs. centenary
really unstoppabel 24% shooting
11% 3pt percentage
0 rebounds
6 Turnovers
vs. centenary
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 21, 2008, 12:39:29 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 21, 2008, 12:39:29 PM
Sounds like Justin White stopped himself hah
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 21, 2008, 01:28:28 PM
Post by: raptor31 on November 21, 2008, 01:28:28 PM
Did have a rough game against Centenary. Haven't watched that one yet. Settled for too many 3's from what I heard. Happens to the best of them, even you ZoneCantStopMe. Expect a big bounce back weekend up in D'Youville, Bards old NEAC foe. J had some of his best games as a freshman up there and I know he is motivated and ready after a bad performance and a loss he puts too much on his own shoulders.
Good to hear some voices on the board again boys, even if all we do is praise and kill JWhite on here! Can I hear something else about a Skyline team or player on this board other than fighting about Bard? Anyone have any input on any other squad other than Purchase is sick because Tyler Hansbrough and Darren Collison apparently transfered there. Anyone? Any MSV or MSM people out there? Westbury, Yeshiva?
Good to hear some voices on the board again boys, even if all we do is praise and kill JWhite on here! Can I hear something else about a Skyline team or player on this board other than fighting about Bard? Anyone have any input on any other squad other than Purchase is sick because Tyler Hansbrough and Darren Collison apparently transfered there. Anyone? Any MSV or MSM people out there? Westbury, Yeshiva?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 21, 2008, 01:31:32 PM
Post by: raptor31 on November 21, 2008, 01:31:32 PM
And RaptorMania, obviously we knew the kid was good, but I am very impressed with his poise now. As you know his biggest problem the first two years is he had a lot of talent but there were too many highs and lows. Kid is under control, making great reads, moving without the ball, very good to see the development and the other kids will come along with him.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 21, 2008, 02:20:43 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 21, 2008, 02:20:43 PM
Agreed.
I'm not ready to give up on him due to one bad game, that's for sure.
Oh, to be in D'Youville tonight...
I'm not ready to give up on him due to one bad game, that's for sure.
Oh, to be in D'Youville tonight...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 22, 2008, 12:28:44 AM
Post by: d3hero on November 22, 2008, 12:28:44 AM
Purchase 81 - New Paltz 78
Believe the hype. Purchase beat's the home SUNYAC team in their own tournament.
Marvin Billups, 28 points, 7 boards and a dunk.
Jerrell Lewis, 16 points.
http://athletics.newpaltz.edu/mbasketball/news_story.cfm?id=4412
Hartwick is losing tomorrow as well.
Believe the hype. Purchase beat's the home SUNYAC team in their own tournament.
Marvin Billups, 28 points, 7 boards and a dunk.
Jerrell Lewis, 16 points.
http://athletics.newpaltz.edu/mbasketball/news_story.cfm?id=4412
Hartwick is losing tomorrow as well.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 22, 2008, 12:33:48 AM
Post by: d3hero on November 22, 2008, 12:33:48 AM
And wow, did D'YOUVILLE just beat Bard by 20+? Wow.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 22, 2008, 11:54:57 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 22, 2008, 11:54:57 AM
"Believe the hype. Purchase beat's the home SUNYAC team in their own tournament."
Huge win. New Paltz was 6-19, 2-14 last year.
Still, good to see the Skyline get the victory.
Sounds like a tough night for Bard last night- let's see how they bounce back today.
Huge win. New Paltz was 6-19, 2-14 last year.
Still, good to see the Skyline get the victory.
Sounds like a tough night for Bard last night- let's see how they bounce back today.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on November 22, 2008, 11:59:16 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on November 22, 2008, 11:59:16 AM
Tracked down the box- looks like Bard ran into a tough shooting night. Justin White had 29, but everyone else was off-target. Don't expect that to continue.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 23, 2008, 12:52:26 AM
Post by: d3hero on November 23, 2008, 12:52:26 AM
Purchase over Hartwick by 13 to win the New Paltz tournament.
Hartwick has already beat Oneonta State & York (NY) this year so don't give me any BS about this not being an impressive win.
Billups scored 29, following a 28 performance. He also got another dunk.
Lewis scored 22, following a 16 performance.
Hartwick has already beat Oneonta State & York (NY) this year so don't give me any BS about this not being an impressive win.
Billups scored 29, following a 28 performance. He also got another dunk.
Lewis scored 22, following a 16 performance.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on November 23, 2008, 01:33:19 AM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on November 23, 2008, 01:33:19 AM
Sorry d3 hero, but if you are claiming a victory over Hartwick as an "impressive win" then your team Purchase isn't very good.
Hartwick is a sub-.500 team that has gone 10-15 4 of the past 6 seasons and 2-22 the other 2. There wins over Oneonta and York tell you that 1) York is going to miss 3/5ths of their starting lineup that graduated from last years team, and 2) November basketball is what it is.
Here's your analogy: Is Duke, beating Michigan, an "impressive win" because Michigan beat UCLA?
Correct Answer: No. That's why they came up with the phrase "upsets happen".
Hartwick is a sub-.500 team that has gone 10-15 4 of the past 6 seasons and 2-22 the other 2. There wins over Oneonta and York tell you that 1) York is going to miss 3/5ths of their starting lineup that graduated from last years team, and 2) November basketball is what it is.
Here's your analogy: Is Duke, beating Michigan, an "impressive win" because Michigan beat UCLA?
Correct Answer: No. That's why they came up with the phrase "upsets happen".
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 23, 2008, 01:38:10 AM
Post by: d3hero on November 23, 2008, 01:38:10 AM
Regardless my friend,
The fact of the matter is Purchase is a first year NCAA school and has never won more than 5 games in a season as an NCAA provisional. They just won the New Paltz tournament and guess what boss? York is picked to win the CUNY so if they're beating a team, though absolutely crappy as Hartwick has been (i went there and played there, i should know, it's still a statement.
Regardless, not a bad night for Skyline. Farmingdale, St. Joe's & Purchase won tournaments...good job!
The fact of the matter is Purchase is a first year NCAA school and has never won more than 5 games in a season as an NCAA provisional. They just won the New Paltz tournament and guess what boss? York is picked to win the CUNY so if they're beating a team, though absolutely crappy as Hartwick has been (i went there and played there, i should know, it's still a statement.
Regardless, not a bad night for Skyline. Farmingdale, St. Joe's & Purchase won tournaments...good job!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on November 23, 2008, 01:45:57 AM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on November 23, 2008, 01:45:57 AM
I'm interested to see Farmingdale and Joe's quest to the crown. The matchup reminds me of the Stevens/Manhattanville run from 2 years ago [first time Skyline ever got 2 teams into the NCAA tournament] or Kings Point/Mt. St. Mary's from back in 2004 I believe.
As always, teams from the "middle" like Purchase, Westbury, and MSV always have a lot to do with who comes out in the end, and usually one of these teams makes a surprising run. I can't remember the last time the top 2 teams in the skyline actually finished the year 1-2
As always, teams from the "middle" like Purchase, Westbury, and MSV always have a lot to do with who comes out in the end, and usually one of these teams makes a surprising run. I can't remember the last time the top 2 teams in the skyline actually finished the year 1-2
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bearnation on November 23, 2008, 06:29:20 AM
Post by: bearnation on November 23, 2008, 06:29:20 AM
From a neutral point of view. I watched the Friday game between Purchase and New Paltz, first because of the hype for Purchase and a kid from FDR Hyde Park is playing for New Paltz. I live in the Hudson Valley graduated for Potsdam in 86(National Champs 32-0 60 straight wins) Purchase has talent but only a 6 man rotation, Ok 7. 8 if count the guy who is the starting center and played 2 minutes. Purchase had almost a 20 point lead against New Paltz and only won by 3. New Paltz is young and at times played that way. They still showed pose and almost won the game. New Platz is a sub .500 team in the SUNYAC. I don't know much about the Skyline Conference but Purchase is a .500 team in the SUNYAC without a bench. They would be in foul trouble or just get worn down playing that many minutes on the long two game weekend trips to either Northern New York or Western New York. Maybe they should join the SUNYAC and we would see what would happen for real!
By the way the 3 transfers to Purchase may have been at D1 and D2 schools but the are D3 talent which is why they are at Purchase. One needs to have something extra to earn minutes at the next level. They are playing D3 because they can compete at this level otherwise they would have gone to a different program in their respective Division of the NCAA.
By the way the 3 transfers to Purchase may have been at D1 and D2 schools but the are D3 talent which is why they are at Purchase. One needs to have something extra to earn minutes at the next level. They are playing D3 because they can compete at this level otherwise they would have gone to a different program in their respective Division of the NCAA.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 23, 2008, 01:19:08 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 23, 2008, 01:19:08 PM
Purchase's bench is stronger than it seems. Several of the guys who didn't see light in the tournament, will see light in Skyline games and will make an impact.
As for the D2 & D1 guys, i gurantee they're going to be better than 99 % of the competition they face this season. And i'll say it right now - Brooklyn College's pre-season All American is going to have his hands full when they face off against one another (because i know everyone is waiting for that).
As for the D2 & D1 guys, i gurantee they're going to be better than 99 % of the competition they face this season. And i'll say it right now - Brooklyn College's pre-season All American is going to have his hands full when they face off against one another (because i know everyone is waiting for that).
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 23, 2008, 08:57:12 PM
Post by: raptor31 on November 23, 2008, 08:57:12 PM
Didn't see the games but I agree winning that tournament is a huge statement for Purchase. I am not going to hate at all, they won a tournament with 3 programs that have been at a higher status than them in college basketball and coming out and kicking off the season with a couple wins is huge for a new group of players together.
Obviously valid points about the status of Hartwick and New Paltz and no this doesn't mean Purchase will be in the top 5 in the Skyline but it is intriguing. I am excited to see their guys play up at Bard next week, hopefully it will be another great Bard-Purchase matchup (had a bunch of those in my 4 yrs). I wish Purchase all the best and everyone has to remember, Bard, Purchase and Polytech were all in a non-bid league called the HVMAC as recently as 4 seasons ago. It has been a tough transition for all 3 and I am happy to see any former HVMAC teams succeed (especially my boys at St. Joe's BK who I am excited to see in the D3).
As for the Bard losses, I talked with a bunch of the guys and it was just a tough weekend. It has been a rough start to the season with their 2 bigs getting injured in week 1 of practice, then James Martin goes down in the D'Youville game, followed by Chris Margella going down early in the Green Mountain game, and you also have to remember role player/knock down shooter Adam Shear is out first semester and coming back in January. With a full roster this Bard team could make some noise but when you take 3 probable starters and the 6th man off a team that is only 7 or 8 deep that is going to hurt. I am proud of the guys and Justin White for holding their heads high this weekend and giving an all out effort (only down 6 to D'Youville with 8 min to play, lost to GM by 2 and White back rimmed a 3 to win).
0-4 start isn't what guys wanted but considering circumstances and the guys attitude of going out and getting better everyday I am happy as Raptor fan. We just need to stay on point and be ready for the return of half the rotation in January. *On a side note Justin White had 29 and 22 in back to back games and is scoring 23+ a game. Having a PG to build around this season and next is a great starting point
Obviously valid points about the status of Hartwick and New Paltz and no this doesn't mean Purchase will be in the top 5 in the Skyline but it is intriguing. I am excited to see their guys play up at Bard next week, hopefully it will be another great Bard-Purchase matchup (had a bunch of those in my 4 yrs). I wish Purchase all the best and everyone has to remember, Bard, Purchase and Polytech were all in a non-bid league called the HVMAC as recently as 4 seasons ago. It has been a tough transition for all 3 and I am happy to see any former HVMAC teams succeed (especially my boys at St. Joe's BK who I am excited to see in the D3).
As for the Bard losses, I talked with a bunch of the guys and it was just a tough weekend. It has been a rough start to the season with their 2 bigs getting injured in week 1 of practice, then James Martin goes down in the D'Youville game, followed by Chris Margella going down early in the Green Mountain game, and you also have to remember role player/knock down shooter Adam Shear is out first semester and coming back in January. With a full roster this Bard team could make some noise but when you take 3 probable starters and the 6th man off a team that is only 7 or 8 deep that is going to hurt. I am proud of the guys and Justin White for holding their heads high this weekend and giving an all out effort (only down 6 to D'Youville with 8 min to play, lost to GM by 2 and White back rimmed a 3 to win).
0-4 start isn't what guys wanted but considering circumstances and the guys attitude of going out and getting better everyday I am happy as Raptor fan. We just need to stay on point and be ready for the return of half the rotation in January. *On a side note Justin White had 29 and 22 in back to back games and is scoring 23+ a game. Having a PG to build around this season and next is a great starting point
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 24, 2008, 04:00:36 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 24, 2008, 04:00:36 PM
raptor31,
thanks for acknowledging purchase's success.
It's great to see a school that up until very recently, had a team that consisted of one basketball player and several hipsters who "played basketball" actually playing NCAA basketball at a respectful level.
It should be fun to see the Bard/Purchase game. I really don't think that your team has the firepower to keep up with this year's Panther squad but anything can happen (that's why the games are played).
thanks for acknowledging purchase's success.
It's great to see a school that up until very recently, had a team that consisted of one basketball player and several hipsters who "played basketball" actually playing NCAA basketball at a respectful level.
It should be fun to see the Bard/Purchase game. I really don't think that your team has the firepower to keep up with this year's Panther squad but anything can happen (that's why the games are played).
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 25, 2008, 01:18:01 AM
Post by: raptor31 on November 25, 2008, 01:18:01 AM
You may be right for this first matchup but with a full squad of guys it should be a great game. Bard will need their 4 players that are out back and fully healthy to hang with a lot of teams with more talent. I will let you know what I think of your boys after next week. Purchase actually had a couple nice squads when we played. Had a team with a 6'9 kid Steve Sage that had a great compliment of players. Akatunde Amare was a great guard there, they had a couple other bigs and a nice rotation of role playing guards. That team was far better than the teams the last few years. Polytech has been hit hard the last couple years unfortunately. They also had some solid teams in the HVMAC. Won it my first 2 yrs in the league with a D1 level big man. Kid Bamba could have competed Ivy or Patriot easily.
How is Farmingdale playing this year?
How is Farmingdale playing this year?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 25, 2008, 09:12:43 AM
Post by: d3hero on November 25, 2008, 09:12:43 AM
Farmingdale has a trio of players, just like Purchase, that are very good.
Damien Santana, Erastus Shannon & D1 JUCO transfer, Mike Campbell. They're going to be good.
The team that people are sleeping on though is St. Joe's. They've got Acree and Niblock back but they've added a 6'5" NAIA player whose playing out his senior season there...J.J. Walsh. He was actually just named co-player of the week with Purchase's new star, Mavin Billups. St. Joe's isn't going to lose that many games.
It should be interesting. Old Westbury only lost 68-50 to Hofstra last night and they held D2 New York Tech to a 74-71 victory. Though they lost to Brooklyn, i think they've got a pretty good team.
The difference between Farmingdale & St. Joe's to Purchase, back to my regular statements, is that Purchase's two new D2 transfers are only sophomores while Farmingdale & St. Joe's talent is all senior based.
I know this is a mixed up, all over the place post but my league standings predictions?
Either Purchase, Farmingdale or St. Joe's at #1, 2 & 3, followed by Old Westbury & Maritime. The bottom 5 are going to be up in the air.
Damien Santana, Erastus Shannon & D1 JUCO transfer, Mike Campbell. They're going to be good.
The team that people are sleeping on though is St. Joe's. They've got Acree and Niblock back but they've added a 6'5" NAIA player whose playing out his senior season there...J.J. Walsh. He was actually just named co-player of the week with Purchase's new star, Mavin Billups. St. Joe's isn't going to lose that many games.
It should be interesting. Old Westbury only lost 68-50 to Hofstra last night and they held D2 New York Tech to a 74-71 victory. Though they lost to Brooklyn, i think they've got a pretty good team.
The difference between Farmingdale & St. Joe's to Purchase, back to my regular statements, is that Purchase's two new D2 transfers are only sophomores while Farmingdale & St. Joe's talent is all senior based.
I know this is a mixed up, all over the place post but my league standings predictions?
Either Purchase, Farmingdale or St. Joe's at #1, 2 & 3, followed by Old Westbury & Maritime. The bottom 5 are going to be up in the air.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 25, 2008, 11:13:13 AM
Post by: raptor31 on November 25, 2008, 11:13:13 AM
I know the players, was just wondering if any Farmingdale people were out there who had seen their games so far. Seeing if anyone had some insight on them? Tough for you to tell me Purchase is going to compete for 1 or 2 that is jumping the gun a little bit. If you tell me they are going to be behind the snr laden squads I might give you that but they will not compete with FSC or SJ because the avg age on St Joes is about 32 and Farmingdale is too battle tested.
If the PC guys are young that looks like a nice future though.
If the PC guys are young that looks like a nice future though.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 25, 2008, 12:55:26 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on November 25, 2008, 12:55:26 PM
wow avg age of 32, i know they had some older players but damn thats stretching it. I think acree is like 26 right now
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 25, 2008, 03:29:20 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 25, 2008, 03:29:20 PM
St. Joe's is an older team, for sure. Their NAIA transfer is a real player though and their freshman pg is good too...should be very interesting.
And yes, I am saying that Purchase will compete with them. And as for the Purchase v. Bard game next week, my prediction?
Purchase 85 - Bard 61
And yes, I am saying that Purchase will compete with them. And as for the Purchase v. Bard game next week, my prediction?
Purchase 85 - Bard 61
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 26, 2008, 10:50:14 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 26, 2008, 10:50:14 AM
im assuming that 32 average age thing is a joke...st joes LI seems legit right now though.
Billups thus far has lived up to the hype the posters are creating on here. Purchase looks like they should make some noise in the conference. It is early yet, but already people are talking about purchase in a way they havent before. Watching Billups get off against some good defenders proved he will be a force in the conference.
Old Westbury has looked impressive thus far against good competition.
Poly has had some rough breaks, theyve been in all of their games, but a young nucleus is usually a recipe for losing those games where youre close but just cant close the gap, or deliver the knockout punch if you in the lead. They have talent though, and they play hard which is a testament to their coach and their heart.
Yeshiva. Yeshiva. 2 and 0 in the conference in a supossed down year. Well coached as always and they have the talent to run their system, and win alot of games. Claster and Liebovich are a dangerous combo and they have an impressive freshman witha good supporting cast.
MSV won their last 2. Their game against St Joes Bklyn was a tough one and proved that SJC Bklyn deserves to play in an ncaa conference. It was a good game which MSV lead wire to wire. The bears cut the lead several times and like i just said, if this team isnt in the Skyline soon I will be surprised. They can definitely compete. MSV also has the rookie of the week in the conference right now.
Bard, from what we have heard on here theyve been struck hard with injuries but with a loss to Yeshiva last night, its obvious theyre having some difficulties. Justin White is one of the better players in the conference but they need to get things clicking and get their roster back to full strength.
Farmingdale. Theyre stacked we all know this. Its going to be tough to knock them off in the skyline this year.
MSM has been getting very good guard play and also features a player of the week in the conference this year. Its never an easy trip to Newburg.
Maritime has only played 2 games thus far but Coach King will have those guys ready to go for conference play and theyre always dangerous. Paul Frazier is a problem on the court for opposing defenses.
Billups thus far has lived up to the hype the posters are creating on here. Purchase looks like they should make some noise in the conference. It is early yet, but already people are talking about purchase in a way they havent before. Watching Billups get off against some good defenders proved he will be a force in the conference.
Old Westbury has looked impressive thus far against good competition.
Poly has had some rough breaks, theyve been in all of their games, but a young nucleus is usually a recipe for losing those games where youre close but just cant close the gap, or deliver the knockout punch if you in the lead. They have talent though, and they play hard which is a testament to their coach and their heart.
Yeshiva. Yeshiva. 2 and 0 in the conference in a supossed down year. Well coached as always and they have the talent to run their system, and win alot of games. Claster and Liebovich are a dangerous combo and they have an impressive freshman witha good supporting cast.
MSV won their last 2. Their game against St Joes Bklyn was a tough one and proved that SJC Bklyn deserves to play in an ncaa conference. It was a good game which MSV lead wire to wire. The bears cut the lead several times and like i just said, if this team isnt in the Skyline soon I will be surprised. They can definitely compete. MSV also has the rookie of the week in the conference right now.
Bard, from what we have heard on here theyve been struck hard with injuries but with a loss to Yeshiva last night, its obvious theyre having some difficulties. Justin White is one of the better players in the conference but they need to get things clicking and get their roster back to full strength.
Farmingdale. Theyre stacked we all know this. Its going to be tough to knock them off in the skyline this year.
MSM has been getting very good guard play and also features a player of the week in the conference this year. Its never an easy trip to Newburg.
Maritime has only played 2 games thus far but Coach King will have those guys ready to go for conference play and theyre always dangerous. Paul Frazier is a problem on the court for opposing defenses.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 26, 2008, 01:11:19 PM
Post by: d3hero on November 26, 2008, 01:11:19 PM
nice summary even though i think you're looking at a lot of positives for every team as opposed to realities.
Polytech is going to lose all but 3 games this season (if they can get 3 wins). Yeshiva is not good. They lost their best player (Gordon) and they have replaced him with ??? The fact that they've beat Poly & Bard just shows how weak those two teams are.
Old Westbury hung with Hofstra for most of that game so that's impressive to me. Prosper is a big, athletic dude and if he plays well and stays out of foul trouble, will create a mismatch inside for every other team in the conference (and outside of it as well).
St. Joe's of LI has a good core and two stars in Acree & their new NAIA transfer. They're legit, as is Farmingdale.
I don't see what the big deal about MSM is. They're a .500 team. MSV, below .500. Maritime will be decent, 5th place in the conference.
Billups is an excellent player for Purchase, yes, but Lewis is equally talented, as is Orgias.
Polytech is going to lose all but 3 games this season (if they can get 3 wins). Yeshiva is not good. They lost their best player (Gordon) and they have replaced him with ??? The fact that they've beat Poly & Bard just shows how weak those two teams are.
Old Westbury hung with Hofstra for most of that game so that's impressive to me. Prosper is a big, athletic dude and if he plays well and stays out of foul trouble, will create a mismatch inside for every other team in the conference (and outside of it as well).
St. Joe's of LI has a good core and two stars in Acree & their new NAIA transfer. They're legit, as is Farmingdale.
I don't see what the big deal about MSM is. They're a .500 team. MSV, below .500. Maritime will be decent, 5th place in the conference.
Billups is an excellent player for Purchase, yes, but Lewis is equally talented, as is Orgias.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 26, 2008, 01:33:53 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 26, 2008, 01:33:53 PM
d3hero, have you seen Yeshiva , MSM, or MSV play this year to make such statements?
Yeshiva has a d2 transfer in Leibovich, Claster who is tough as nails and a good freshman. Add those guys with their role players into the Yeshiva system and Yeshiva is dangerous.
MSM has guys who can shoot and get hot, that happens on the right night it could spell trouble for an opponent.
MSV has the rookie of the week, in addition to a nice transfer player from the Liberty League, plus 2 of the better shooters in the conference. Not a bad group on paper if u ask me.
Again,
Farmingdale, Westbury and LI SJC are the top dogs with the targets on their backs.
Yeshiva has a d2 transfer in Leibovich, Claster who is tough as nails and a good freshman. Add those guys with their role players into the Yeshiva system and Yeshiva is dangerous.
MSM has guys who can shoot and get hot, that happens on the right night it could spell trouble for an opponent.
MSV has the rookie of the week, in addition to a nice transfer player from the Liberty League, plus 2 of the better shooters in the conference. Not a bad group on paper if u ask me.
Again,
Farmingdale, Westbury and LI SJC are the top dogs with the targets on their backs.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 26, 2008, 01:42:26 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 26, 2008, 01:42:26 PM
I saw Farmingdale State beat Baruch in overtime last night. The Bearcats were up by 24 points in the first half, but played poorly down the stretch. Farmingdale was more aggressive and simply wanted it more. This game was also subject to some pretty bad officiating.
Farmingdale has three of the best players in the Skyline conference: Santana, Shannon and Mike Campbell, a transfer from Globe.
Farmingdale has three of the best players in the Skyline conference: Santana, Shannon and Mike Campbell, a transfer from Globe.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on November 26, 2008, 10:43:33 PM
Post by: raptor31 on November 26, 2008, 10:43:33 PM
Appreciate the update on some of the teams. Anyone think this has a shot of being a 2 bid league at all? Probably not because no one has a tough enough schedule? Anyone know if Farmingdale could get one if they lost in the tourney?
Nice rundown of some of the teams and what theyre working with. Looking forward to seeing some of the teams play. Tough loss for the Raptors Tues. Still undermanned with Martin out and 2 players out til 2nd semester. Might be a struggle Tues with Purchase, but you just never know...
Nice rundown of some of the teams and what theyre working with. Looking forward to seeing some of the teams play. Tough loss for the Raptors Tues. Still undermanned with Martin out and 2 players out til 2nd semester. Might be a struggle Tues with Purchase, but you just never know...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 02, 2008, 09:22:42 AM
Post by: CityD3 on December 02, 2008, 09:22:42 AM
Quote from: BklynBasketball on November 26, 2008, 10:50:14 AM
MSV won their last 2. Their game against St Joes Bklyn was a tough one and proved that SJC Bklyn deserves to play in an ncaa conference. It was a good game which MSV lead wire to wire. The bears cut the lead several times and like i just said, if this team isnt in the Skyline soon I will be surprised. They can definitely compete. MSV also has the rookie of the week in the conference right now.
St. Joe's-BK does deserve to be in an NCAA conference, but they gotta get a facility. it's pretty crazy that they can get any kind of talent in while playing at a high school gym. That being said, the St. Joes battle of LI vs. BK could get ugly for the bears..that's a tough matchup for them. However, they have nothing to lose and just being competetive with LI could open some eyes. MSV has some good guards, but they are gonna need to find a true big man if they're gonna make any serious noise.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on December 02, 2008, 11:28:06 AM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on December 02, 2008, 11:28:06 AM
Raptor -
Possible, but HIGHLY unlikely. The Skyline will not be getting 2 bids this season. In Skyline history it only happened once, a couple years ago with Stevens and Manhattanville. And that was because Stevens was a Top 25 team and the #1 team in the region before being upset at home in the tournament. Their resume also included 4 wins over teams that had been in the tournament the prior year outside of the conference, as well as a close loss to NYU, which was another Top 25 team.
Manhattanville won the tourney and got the auto bid, and there were questions about if they would have made it in if they didn't get the auto.
That being said, the Skyline this year is worse than the Skyline from that year, so the conference wins won't help as much. In order for this league to get two bids, the #1 seed in the tourney would have to be something like 20-4 going into conference play, and make at least the conference semifinals. Even then, it would be tough. Last Massey Ranking (within past month) I saw had the Skyline as the 6th worst division 3 conference in the country.
Possible, but HIGHLY unlikely. The Skyline will not be getting 2 bids this season. In Skyline history it only happened once, a couple years ago with Stevens and Manhattanville. And that was because Stevens was a Top 25 team and the #1 team in the region before being upset at home in the tournament. Their resume also included 4 wins over teams that had been in the tournament the prior year outside of the conference, as well as a close loss to NYU, which was another Top 25 team.
Manhattanville won the tourney and got the auto bid, and there were questions about if they would have made it in if they didn't get the auto.
That being said, the Skyline this year is worse than the Skyline from that year, so the conference wins won't help as much. In order for this league to get two bids, the #1 seed in the tourney would have to be something like 20-4 going into conference play, and make at least the conference semifinals. Even then, it would be tough. Last Massey Ranking (within past month) I saw had the Skyline as the 6th worst division 3 conference in the country.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 02, 2008, 12:37:38 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 02, 2008, 12:37:38 PM
though getting two bids is unlikely, the skyline is stronger this year than it was last year and that's a fact.
Farmingdale lost barely anything and gained a JUCO D1 allstar player - St. Joe's gained a 6'6" NAIA transfer - Old Westbury is very talented and has the best center in the league - Maritime, though losing Webb, has put together a good team with some strong players and Purchase is, in my opinion, the most improved team in college basketball, going from a 3-22 team to a 3-0 start and with good health, is on path for a 20+ win season.
The Skyline isn't a joke. I didn't mention MSV & MSM but they're not bad teams at all. Bard & Polytech aren't the best...and we'll see how Yeshiva is (i'm watching them tonight against Purchase...my opinion? 75-52 Purchase wins.)
Farmingdale lost barely anything and gained a JUCO D1 allstar player - St. Joe's gained a 6'6" NAIA transfer - Old Westbury is very talented and has the best center in the league - Maritime, though losing Webb, has put together a good team with some strong players and Purchase is, in my opinion, the most improved team in college basketball, going from a 3-22 team to a 3-0 start and with good health, is on path for a 20+ win season.
The Skyline isn't a joke. I didn't mention MSV & MSM but they're not bad teams at all. Bard & Polytech aren't the best...and we'll see how Yeshiva is (i'm watching them tonight against Purchase...my opinion? 75-52 Purchase wins.)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 02, 2008, 12:50:20 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 02, 2008, 12:50:20 PM
I love the skyline and the teams in it, and it seems to be alot stronger then last year but it is by FAR weaker then it was in the past. I would have loved to play in this skyline. it seems more individual based rather then team based and thos old skyline teams had the team concept down
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on December 02, 2008, 01:04:20 PM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on December 02, 2008, 01:04:20 PM
d3hero -
Stronger than last year, absolutely.
Stronger than 2 years ago, no chance.
Stronger than 3 years ago, no chance again.
Think of the "best teams" in the conference. Farmingdale, St. Joes, and Old Westbury...none of whom are Top 25 teams...actually, I don't believe any of them have been Top 25 in the last 10 years, if ever. In fact, if you just look in the region, Skyline generally fairs worse than NJAC and CUNY. It's not a knock on the Skyline, but it just isn't a very good conference (and I'm a huge Skyline fan, but you just have to compare it to the "good" conferences like NESCAC, SUNY, UAA, CCIW, etc. and you'll see the difference between the good conferences and bad ones).
Stronger than last year, absolutely.
Stronger than 2 years ago, no chance.
Stronger than 3 years ago, no chance again.
Think of the "best teams" in the conference. Farmingdale, St. Joes, and Old Westbury...none of whom are Top 25 teams...actually, I don't believe any of them have been Top 25 in the last 10 years, if ever. In fact, if you just look in the region, Skyline generally fairs worse than NJAC and CUNY. It's not a knock on the Skyline, but it just isn't a very good conference (and I'm a huge Skyline fan, but you just have to compare it to the "good" conferences like NESCAC, SUNY, UAA, CCIW, etc. and you'll see the difference between the good conferences and bad ones).
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 02, 2008, 11:37:46 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 02, 2008, 11:37:46 PM
Farmingdale, St. Joe's & Purchase are all better than all CUNYs. Old Westbury is too.
In Skyline news,
St. Joe's beat Old Westbury by 10, 88-78 with their new NAIA transfer scoring 30 and pulling down 15 boards.
Maritime squeaked by MSM by 2, 75-73.
MSV destroyed Bard, 108-72.
And last but not least, Purchase beat up Yeshiva 79-55, very close to my 75-52 prediction. Purchase was ahead 79-49 and then didn't score for the last 4 minutes of the contest. The game was never close. Marvin Billups once again was unstoppable - the Yeshiva defense had no answer for him (yet another dunk, and an and1 dunk at that for him). Jerrell Lewis was extremely hot in the first half and finished with over 20. Chad Charney hit several 3's and Justin Walters had double digits with nearly as many steals (imo, he will lead the conference with about 5 per game at the seasons' end.)
That's it for tonight, folks.
My prediction for the score of Thursday's Purchase v. Bard game? Purchase 95, Bard 55.
In Skyline news,
St. Joe's beat Old Westbury by 10, 88-78 with their new NAIA transfer scoring 30 and pulling down 15 boards.
Maritime squeaked by MSM by 2, 75-73.
MSV destroyed Bard, 108-72.
And last but not least, Purchase beat up Yeshiva 79-55, very close to my 75-52 prediction. Purchase was ahead 79-49 and then didn't score for the last 4 minutes of the contest. The game was never close. Marvin Billups once again was unstoppable - the Yeshiva defense had no answer for him (yet another dunk, and an and1 dunk at that for him). Jerrell Lewis was extremely hot in the first half and finished with over 20. Chad Charney hit several 3's and Justin Walters had double digits with nearly as many steals (imo, he will lead the conference with about 5 per game at the seasons' end.)
That's it for tonight, folks.
My prediction for the score of Thursday's Purchase v. Bard game? Purchase 95, Bard 55.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 03, 2008, 01:48:46 AM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 03, 2008, 01:48:46 AM
D3 Hero:
How can you say that those 4 teams are better than all CUNY's?
Farmingdale was taken to overtime by Baruch.
Purchase is still an unproven team. Purchase got dismantled by 3 CUNY's last year and they lost to Poly, a weak Skyline team. Irregardless of how many future NBA stars they seem to have accumulated during the offseason, they still have a lot to prove. Chime in on them again in February.
Old Westbury is 0-1 vs CUNY this year, having fallen to Brooklyn at Old Westbury, in their own tournament.
It is very early in the season to be making such rash statements. Each conference had two 20 win teams last year. So in my opinion, the upper echelon teams in each conference match up, while the lesser Skyline teams are better than the lesser CUNYs.
How can you say that those 4 teams are better than all CUNY's?
Farmingdale was taken to overtime by Baruch.
Purchase is still an unproven team. Purchase got dismantled by 3 CUNY's last year and they lost to Poly, a weak Skyline team. Irregardless of how many future NBA stars they seem to have accumulated during the offseason, they still have a lot to prove. Chime in on them again in February.
Old Westbury is 0-1 vs CUNY this year, having fallen to Brooklyn at Old Westbury, in their own tournament.
It is very early in the season to be making such rash statements. Each conference had two 20 win teams last year. So in my opinion, the upper echelon teams in each conference match up, while the lesser Skyline teams are better than the lesser CUNYs.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 03, 2008, 03:19:25 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 03, 2008, 03:19:25 PM
the sickest thing about Purchase is that their 6'9" guy isn't even playing yet. If and when they get him back, they're going to be not only regionally good but NCAA tournament good.
As for the Skyline being better than CUNY - absolutely this year. Brooklyn, Baruch, Lehman, Hunter & City Tech are the top 5 this year.
I actually think Purchase is a great bellweather team for this matchup, as they play against Lehman, Brooklyn (this saturday) and City Tech. Farmingdale beat Baruch (yes, in overtime) and we'll see how the teams do against Hunter but, i honestly believe that with Mike Campbell going to Farmingdale, Walsh to St. Joe's and the "big three" transfers at purchase, along with Old Westbury & Maritime being good, that the CUNY isn't as strong as the Skyline this year.
As for the Skyline being better than CUNY - absolutely this year. Brooklyn, Baruch, Lehman, Hunter & City Tech are the top 5 this year.
I actually think Purchase is a great bellweather team for this matchup, as they play against Lehman, Brooklyn (this saturday) and City Tech. Farmingdale beat Baruch (yes, in overtime) and we'll see how the teams do against Hunter but, i honestly believe that with Mike Campbell going to Farmingdale, Walsh to St. Joe's and the "big three" transfers at purchase, along with Old Westbury & Maritime being good, that the CUNY isn't as strong as the Skyline this year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on December 03, 2008, 03:52:18 PM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on December 03, 2008, 03:52:18 PM
As an obvious Purchase fan I applaud your enthusiasm for the team and wish them all the success they deserve, but as an outsider with a lot of experience covering not only the Skyline, but all of the Atlantic, East, and Northeast divisions, I have to say you're a little overzealous with some of the claims regarding the Skyline and Purchase.
For starters, I'd argue that North Carolina Wesleyan is the most improved team in the college basketball, and that within the region, Kean is the most improved team. I know you like to throw around that this team picked up this transfer, and so and so went here, and all that looks great on paper, but as far as what they've done on the court up to this point, Kean and NCW have both been more impressive from last year to this year.
Kean - Wins over Division 2 Clarion, Wilkes, and John Jay. Clarion win impressive, other two aren't.
Losses are to NYU (undefeated this year, 16-11 in UAA last year), Stevens (5-1 this year, 23-6 last year, ECAC Metro Champs), and Bowdoin (5-1 this year, 22-7 last year, made it to 2nd round of NCAA tournament).
If Purchase and Kean switched schedules, I think Purchase would have the same 3-3 record that Kean has. I've seen Kean play three time this season and Purchase twice, and I think the difference [AT THIS POINT IN TIME] between Kean last year to this year is bigger than Purchase last year to this year, even though Purchase will finish with a much better record. Purchase hasn't played anyone good up to this point, so while I know they've gotten better from last year, just how much so remains to be seen.
If you look at Purchase's schedule and look big picture (as in national scene), they could finish the season undefeated and have zero quality wins. Not to take anything away from the top teams in the skyline, but they just aren't as good as the Wash U's, Amherst's, Platteville's of the country. So for Purchase being NCAA Tournament good, I would believe we'd have no clue how good they are until we saw them against a good tournament team.
I'm taking nothing away from Purchase's team and hope they do well, but I wouldn't start thinking about this as a dangerous NCAA team just yet.
For starters, I'd argue that North Carolina Wesleyan is the most improved team in the college basketball, and that within the region, Kean is the most improved team. I know you like to throw around that this team picked up this transfer, and so and so went here, and all that looks great on paper, but as far as what they've done on the court up to this point, Kean and NCW have both been more impressive from last year to this year.
Kean - Wins over Division 2 Clarion, Wilkes, and John Jay. Clarion win impressive, other two aren't.
Losses are to NYU (undefeated this year, 16-11 in UAA last year), Stevens (5-1 this year, 23-6 last year, ECAC Metro Champs), and Bowdoin (5-1 this year, 22-7 last year, made it to 2nd round of NCAA tournament).
If Purchase and Kean switched schedules, I think Purchase would have the same 3-3 record that Kean has. I've seen Kean play three time this season and Purchase twice, and I think the difference [AT THIS POINT IN TIME] between Kean last year to this year is bigger than Purchase last year to this year, even though Purchase will finish with a much better record. Purchase hasn't played anyone good up to this point, so while I know they've gotten better from last year, just how much so remains to be seen.
If you look at Purchase's schedule and look big picture (as in national scene), they could finish the season undefeated and have zero quality wins. Not to take anything away from the top teams in the skyline, but they just aren't as good as the Wash U's, Amherst's, Platteville's of the country. So for Purchase being NCAA Tournament good, I would believe we'd have no clue how good they are until we saw them against a good tournament team.
I'm taking nothing away from Purchase's team and hope they do well, but I wouldn't start thinking about this as a dangerous NCAA team just yet.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 03, 2008, 03:58:46 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 03, 2008, 03:58:46 PM
D3 Hero:
You did not suggest that the skyline was better than the cuny. What you said was, the teams that you listed are better than ALL CUNYs. As a CUNY has already beaten one of your teams listed, your statement does not seem true.
You did not suggest that the skyline was better than the cuny. What you said was, the teams that you listed are better than ALL CUNYs. As a CUNY has already beaten one of your teams listed, your statement does not seem true.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 03, 2008, 08:43:12 PM
Post by: CityD3 on December 03, 2008, 08:43:12 PM
I thought this was an all-Bard discussion board....the raptor faithful are awfully quiet and rightfully so.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 03, 2008, 10:46:15 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 03, 2008, 10:46:15 PM
The Barders aren't going to be talking until they win a game. Maybe if they play Polytech again they'll have a chance at getting one but that's doubtful.
I don't know who is playing in the "Bard Tournament" but unless they give themselves a game against a team like Sarah Lawrence, i really don't see Bard winning a game this season.
I don't know who is playing in the "Bard Tournament" but unless they give themselves a game against a team like Sarah Lawrence, i really don't see Bard winning a game this season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 04, 2008, 01:02:00 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on December 04, 2008, 01:02:00 AM
Looks like bard is matched up against Regis in the first round of their own tournament. Regis is coming off of a 6-17 season. they look much imporved they are 4-1 with their only loss coming to 16th ranked elms in the elms tournament.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 05, 2008, 12:42:38 AM
Post by: d3hero on December 05, 2008, 12:42:38 AM
Purchase beats Bard by 17 and the Panthers were only given 14 minutes to warm up pre-game.
Justin White got destroyed by Jerrell Lewis (who is not on academic probation) with Lewis scoring a season high 35 points.
Justin White got destroyed by Jerrell Lewis (who is not on academic probation) with Lewis scoring a season high 35 points.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 05, 2008, 10:03:34 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 05, 2008, 10:03:34 AM
Purchase beats Bard by 17 and the Panthers were only given 14 minutes to warm up pre-game.
Do you mean that Purchase arrived late? Or that Bard pushed up the starting time of the game? Also, minor quibble... 80-65 isn't 17- I know that, and Bard isn't even known for its math department!
Justin White got destroyed by Jerrell Lewis
Yes. White was a non-factor, with a paltry 23 points and 6 assists.
Eager to see what Bard does once it plays more than seven deep, when all the injured folks return.
Do you mean that Purchase arrived late? Or that Bard pushed up the starting time of the game? Also, minor quibble... 80-65 isn't 17- I know that, and Bard isn't even known for its math department!
Justin White got destroyed by Jerrell Lewis
Yes. White was a non-factor, with a paltry 23 points and 6 assists.
Eager to see what Bard does once it plays more than seven deep, when all the injured folks return.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on December 05, 2008, 11:17:04 AM
Post by: raptor31 on December 05, 2008, 11:17:04 AM
Haha, don't worry about Bard, we are only 10 seasons removed from an 0-25 campaign so don't think losing is going to drive us anywhere. As far as the comment "Justin White got destroyed by Lewis," that is completely ignorant because you weren't at the game and didn't see how it played out. Unfortunately, both coaches played zone the ENTIRE game so we didn't get to see the two match up head to head. The couple times they did match up in transition you saw that they were very evenly matched in ball skills, athleticism and they both had mutual respect for each other. Would have been fun to see them go head to head because Lewis would NOT have scored 30+ because he would have had trouble going by J and wouldn't have had 10+ clean looks at 3! Justin also killed the Purchase zone all night long by splitting it with dribble penetration and finding looks for himself and his shooters. If you watched the game what you would have seen was a very gifted scorer in Lewis doing what he does best (taking a lot of shots and making some) and Justin White doing what he does best, being a great point guard!! There is no coach in the country who would watch that game and rather have #24 on Purchase running their team than #3 on Bard. You put J White on Purchase and Lewis on Bard and this is a 40 plus point game so lets not get twisted by looking at box scores. No disrespect to the Bard roster and they will admit it, Purchase had more talent and athleticism than them but didn't have more heart and desire.
Unfortunately the Bard zone allowed Lewis to have a field day and shoot open shots, split gaps in the defense against weaker defenders and overall just eat the Raptors up. While he did play a great game the zone kept Billups and the other 6'5 kid in check for the most part so it wasn't all negative.
Unfortunately no one actually goes to any of the games they write about on here they look at box scores and make claims they have no idea about. Lewis is the real deal, not a D1 player but definately a D2 talent and tremendous D3 player. The other two kids are also great players and Purchase is much improved!
BUTTTT... Bard finds themselves down 10 with 5 min to play and consider this, Bard's 2nd leading scorer Chris Margella severly injured his elbow 10 min into the game and their 3rd leading scorer and one of their best defenders and White's transition partner James Martin DIDNT PLAY!!! Add onto that Forest Alvarez-Ringer who has been a monster the last 2 games and just keeps getting better every day fouled out with 7 min left and the game all of a sudden isn't such a great win for PC. I don't know about you but I am not too comfortable with only winning by a marginal amount (the 5 extra pts were tack on pts at the end with FTs) if I am Purchase considering they were at full strength and Bard was without its 2 and 3 leding scorers, a key big fouled out and a without the service of key role player Adam Shear.
Until the Raptors get healthy it will be tough for them to win but I will tell you this. There is a great attitude on this team and for a team 0-7 they are not blowing up, they are not quitting, they are simply getting better every day and waiting it out until they get everyone back. With a full roster they aren't Skyline champs but they can compete with anyone in the conference, even the overhyped, maybe 5th best team in the league Purchase.
Unfortunately the Bard zone allowed Lewis to have a field day and shoot open shots, split gaps in the defense against weaker defenders and overall just eat the Raptors up. While he did play a great game the zone kept Billups and the other 6'5 kid in check for the most part so it wasn't all negative.
Unfortunately no one actually goes to any of the games they write about on here they look at box scores and make claims they have no idea about. Lewis is the real deal, not a D1 player but definately a D2 talent and tremendous D3 player. The other two kids are also great players and Purchase is much improved!
BUTTTT... Bard finds themselves down 10 with 5 min to play and consider this, Bard's 2nd leading scorer Chris Margella severly injured his elbow 10 min into the game and their 3rd leading scorer and one of their best defenders and White's transition partner James Martin DIDNT PLAY!!! Add onto that Forest Alvarez-Ringer who has been a monster the last 2 games and just keeps getting better every day fouled out with 7 min left and the game all of a sudden isn't such a great win for PC. I don't know about you but I am not too comfortable with only winning by a marginal amount (the 5 extra pts were tack on pts at the end with FTs) if I am Purchase considering they were at full strength and Bard was without its 2 and 3 leding scorers, a key big fouled out and a without the service of key role player Adam Shear.
Until the Raptors get healthy it will be tough for them to win but I will tell you this. There is a great attitude on this team and for a team 0-7 they are not blowing up, they are not quitting, they are simply getting better every day and waiting it out until they get everyone back. With a full roster they aren't Skyline champs but they can compete with anyone in the conference, even the overhyped, maybe 5th best team in the league Purchase.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on December 05, 2008, 11:20:30 AM
Post by: raptor31 on December 05, 2008, 11:20:30 AM
and what are you talking about they had 14 min to warm up. THERE WAS A GIRLS GAME BEFORE IT!!! Both teams were given 20 min to warm up, I was sitting front row watching the warm ups. Just don't post about stuff you don't know...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on December 05, 2008, 11:24:46 AM
Post by: raptor31 on December 05, 2008, 11:24:46 AM
Let me just reiterate this, Purchase is much improved from last year but to say they are "NCAA tourney" good is just ridiculous. I am not sure you have watched Purchase play this year. They aren't close to Farmingdale or St. Joe's and don't really have a chance to win this thing. They are closer to Westbury than where they were but I mean cmon, don't be unreasonable.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 05, 2008, 11:30:56 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 05, 2008, 11:30:56 AM
Raptor31, your consistent use of "facts" and "actually watching games" only confuses the issues. Please revert to baseless speculation and character assassination, or else I fear D3Hero will not have any way of responding.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 05, 2008, 01:02:49 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 05, 2008, 01:02:49 PM
you're right that i wasn't at the game up at Bard and i was a) told that there wasn't much time alloted to warm up and b) told that purchase won by 17 (which is not very far off from 15). You did just prove my statement true about the warmup time by saying there was a girls game before (which Purchase killed in) and the fact that i misquoted the score by a 2 point deficit without seeing a box score isn't something that offensive.
The fact of the matter that you guys LOVE your Justin White is absolutely fine, absolutely. He's your best player and you worship the ground he walks on. However, the truth remains that he was abused last night and cannot keep up with Purchase's Lewis.
As for your concession that Bard isn't as athletic as Purchase, I agree. The only thing Bard might have over Purchase is a more fiber friendly cafeteria diet.
As for your "constantly improving" Forest Alvarez, I coached against Forest in high school last year and he was a good player in a a small private school league. He might be doing better now but him fouling out of the game didn't effect the outcome.
And a hint to you: Bard's roster might be decimated by injury but don't you think that perhaps a handful of other Skyline teams are missing guys, too?
The last thing to address is Purchase compared to St. Joe's & Farmingdale. We'll see. After the next semester starts, we will see again.
As for you Barders, until you guys get a win, your opinions about how great your players are, are bogus to me. I'm here supporting Purchase, a 5-0 team that has never won 5 games in its history until this year. When you have something to brag about, flaunt it baby, flaunt it.
The fact of the matter that you guys LOVE your Justin White is absolutely fine, absolutely. He's your best player and you worship the ground he walks on. However, the truth remains that he was abused last night and cannot keep up with Purchase's Lewis.
As for your concession that Bard isn't as athletic as Purchase, I agree. The only thing Bard might have over Purchase is a more fiber friendly cafeteria diet.
As for your "constantly improving" Forest Alvarez, I coached against Forest in high school last year and he was a good player in a a small private school league. He might be doing better now but him fouling out of the game didn't effect the outcome.
And a hint to you: Bard's roster might be decimated by injury but don't you think that perhaps a handful of other Skyline teams are missing guys, too?
The last thing to address is Purchase compared to St. Joe's & Farmingdale. We'll see. After the next semester starts, we will see again.
As for you Barders, until you guys get a win, your opinions about how great your players are, are bogus to me. I'm here supporting Purchase, a 5-0 team that has never won 5 games in its history until this year. When you have something to brag about, flaunt it baby, flaunt it.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 05, 2008, 01:07:27 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 05, 2008, 01:07:27 PM
One more thing...
Why does the losing team always have, "more heart and desire" than the more "athletic and talented" team? Doesn't that always seem to be the case in the opinion of the losers?
I never quite understood that point and it still doesn't make any sense to me. It would seem to me that the losing team always claims to have the heart because they don't have the win. That makes more sense, no?
Why does the losing team always have, "more heart and desire" than the more "athletic and talented" team? Doesn't that always seem to be the case in the opinion of the losers?
I never quite understood that point and it still doesn't make any sense to me. It would seem to me that the losing team always claims to have the heart because they don't have the win. That makes more sense, no?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 05, 2008, 01:15:37 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 05, 2008, 01:15:37 PM
However, the truth remains that he was abused last night and cannot keep up with Purchase's Lewis.
You really don't know what a zone defense is, do you?
As for you Barders, until you guys get a win, your opinions about how great your players are, are bogus to me.
Until you see a game you give your opinion about, why exactly should your opinion carry any validity?
You really don't know what a zone defense is, do you?
As for you Barders, until you guys get a win, your opinions about how great your players are, are bogus to me.
Until you see a game you give your opinion about, why exactly should your opinion carry any validity?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on December 05, 2008, 02:09:42 PM
Post by: raptor31 on December 05, 2008, 02:09:42 PM
Do you consistently state things without having any logic behind your opinions. Probably why you are coaching at a small private school in the city.
First of all Bard had more heart and desire because they were playing against a team that was at least 30 points better than the the Bard team on the floor last night and they outhustled and outworked Purchase in ever facet of the game. This is why it remained a game until 3 min left! Purchase was bigger and more athletic yet got outrebounded because they play lax last night.
Secondly, I will say this again, BOTH TEAMS PLAYED ZONE. You have no clue about this game if you think one player can kill another player when both teams are playing zone. No disrespect to Lewis but he killed the Bard zone not Justin White.
Third, Forest fouling out absolutely effected the outcome, you coaching against him in high school gives you no insight as to what his effect on the game last night was. Forest played tough and gave your boy Billups problems at the bottom of the zone. When he was gone no one on the bottom of the zone could keep up with his quickness.
Fourth, other Skyline teams might have injuries but PURCHASE DIDNT so your point makes no sense in the context that I was comparing a healthy Bard team to this Purchase team.
Fifth, my sophomore year Purchase had a team better than this one and they had 10+ wins that year, the year before, and the year after so your 5 win "fact" isn't exactly accurate. Purchase was terrible the last 3 years but actually competed and did well at the level they were at before.
Sixth, complaining about warmup time is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. In D3 games men's games are after women's all the time and 20 min warmup time is standard. Oh yeah, both teams had the same amount of time to warmup.
Seventh, there wasn't one paragraph you wrote that made any sense or had any bases in fact.
And by the way I will "worship the ground" J White walks on all day and all night. When you are that TOUGH it just happens. Some of us only score 1,100 pts in college can't make sense on a message board so I understand you not liking J very much. Don't be mad cause he would bust your ass, it has happened to a few others.
First of all Bard had more heart and desire because they were playing against a team that was at least 30 points better than the the Bard team on the floor last night and they outhustled and outworked Purchase in ever facet of the game. This is why it remained a game until 3 min left! Purchase was bigger and more athletic yet got outrebounded because they play lax last night.
Secondly, I will say this again, BOTH TEAMS PLAYED ZONE. You have no clue about this game if you think one player can kill another player when both teams are playing zone. No disrespect to Lewis but he killed the Bard zone not Justin White.
Third, Forest fouling out absolutely effected the outcome, you coaching against him in high school gives you no insight as to what his effect on the game last night was. Forest played tough and gave your boy Billups problems at the bottom of the zone. When he was gone no one on the bottom of the zone could keep up with his quickness.
Fourth, other Skyline teams might have injuries but PURCHASE DIDNT so your point makes no sense in the context that I was comparing a healthy Bard team to this Purchase team.
Fifth, my sophomore year Purchase had a team better than this one and they had 10+ wins that year, the year before, and the year after so your 5 win "fact" isn't exactly accurate. Purchase was terrible the last 3 years but actually competed and did well at the level they were at before.
Sixth, complaining about warmup time is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. In D3 games men's games are after women's all the time and 20 min warmup time is standard. Oh yeah, both teams had the same amount of time to warmup.
Seventh, there wasn't one paragraph you wrote that made any sense or had any bases in fact.
And by the way I will "worship the ground" J White walks on all day and all night. When you are that TOUGH it just happens. Some of us only score 1,100 pts in college can't make sense on a message board so I understand you not liking J very much. Don't be mad cause he would bust your ass, it has happened to a few others.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 05, 2008, 02:15:06 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 05, 2008, 02:15:06 PM
Unfortunately, Raptor31, it is inaccurate to say you have destroyed D3Hero, nor have I. This is because we are playing a zone.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: all day quads on December 05, 2008, 02:44:27 PM
Post by: all day quads on December 05, 2008, 02:44:27 PM
F the haters....all i gotta say is someone better put hand up on YONAH "the Maccabi Assassain" GREENSTEIN!!!!! the kid is the BEST shooter in the Sky Line Conference. The Bard freshmen has hit 5 3's in the last 2 games and with the increase in playing time the Maccabi Assassain's numbers should only improve.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 05, 2008, 04:30:27 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 05, 2008, 04:30:27 PM
BEST SHOOTER?
C'mon, he is a good shooter and a nice piece for Bard. I like him as a player for them. Best shooter in the conference has to be Joe Cooke right now for MSV
Stats:
3-POINT FG PCT (Min. 1.0 made per game)
## Player-Team Cl G 3FG FGA Pct
----------------------------------------------------
1.Afum, Kris-OW............ JR 5 5 8 .625
2.Cooke, Joe-CMSV.......... SR 6 24 42 .571
3.Harrington, Tyriq-PC..... SO 5 5 9 .556
4.Jimenez, Chris-SJC....... FR 4 9 17 .529
5.Polett, David-BC......... JR 7 14 30 .467
6.Biron, Chen-YU........... FR 7 15 33 .455
Reese, Bill-OW........... JR 4 5 11 .455
8.Lewis, Jerrell-PC........ SR 5 14 31 .452
9.Houde, Mike-SJC.......... SR 4 4 9 .444
10.Jackson, Davon-FSC....... SR 5 6 14 .429
Cunningham, Matt-MSMC.... SR 5 6 14 .429
3-POINT FG MADE
## Player-Team Cl G 3FG Avg/G
----------------------------------------------
1.Cooke, Joe-CMSV.......... SR 6 24 4.00
2.Charney, Chad-PC......... SR 5 15 3.00
Acree, David-SJC......... SR 4 12 3.00
4.Ohri, Arjun-POLY......... SO 7 20 2.86
5.Lewis, Jerrell-PC........ SR 5 14 2.80
6.George, Hakiem-OW........ JR 5 13 2.60
7.Josey, Kevin-MTIME....... JR 4 10 2.50
8.Jimenez, Chris-SJC....... FR 4 9 2.25
9.Biron, Chen-YU........... FR 7 15 2.14
10.Polett, David-BC......... JR 7 14 2.00
DiMaggio, Nick-CMSV...... JR 5 10 2.00
C'mon, he is a good shooter and a nice piece for Bard. I like him as a player for them. Best shooter in the conference has to be Joe Cooke right now for MSV
Stats:
3-POINT FG PCT (Min. 1.0 made per game)
## Player-Team Cl G 3FG FGA Pct
----------------------------------------------------
1.Afum, Kris-OW............ JR 5 5 8 .625
2.Cooke, Joe-CMSV.......... SR 6 24 42 .571
3.Harrington, Tyriq-PC..... SO 5 5 9 .556
4.Jimenez, Chris-SJC....... FR 4 9 17 .529
5.Polett, David-BC......... JR 7 14 30 .467
6.Biron, Chen-YU........... FR 7 15 33 .455
Reese, Bill-OW........... JR 4 5 11 .455
8.Lewis, Jerrell-PC........ SR 5 14 31 .452
9.Houde, Mike-SJC.......... SR 4 4 9 .444
10.Jackson, Davon-FSC....... SR 5 6 14 .429
Cunningham, Matt-MSMC.... SR 5 6 14 .429
3-POINT FG MADE
## Player-Team Cl G 3FG Avg/G
----------------------------------------------
1.Cooke, Joe-CMSV.......... SR 6 24 4.00
2.Charney, Chad-PC......... SR 5 15 3.00
Acree, David-SJC......... SR 4 12 3.00
4.Ohri, Arjun-POLY......... SO 7 20 2.86
5.Lewis, Jerrell-PC........ SR 5 14 2.80
6.George, Hakiem-OW........ JR 5 13 2.60
7.Josey, Kevin-MTIME....... JR 4 10 2.50
8.Jimenez, Chris-SJC....... FR 4 9 2.25
9.Biron, Chen-YU........... FR 7 15 2.14
10.Polett, David-BC......... JR 7 14 2.00
DiMaggio, Nick-CMSV...... JR 5 10 2.00
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 05, 2008, 11:00:31 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 05, 2008, 11:00:31 PM
St Joe's vs St Joe's tonight.
Again, anyone who doesn't think St Joe's Brooklyn deserves to be an NCAA Skyline team is crazy. SJC LI is considered by many to be one of the top 2-3 teams in the skyline, and they went into the half holding a 1 point lead. This was a game where LI did lead the entire game, with SJC Brooklyn tying it up 3 times, so SJC LI handled business. But this was no easy game it seems. Until about the 9 minute mark left in the game it was a 2-3 possession game. At this point a team like SJC LI just has the depth and muscle to wear down their opponents and they pulled away en route to a 20+ point victory, SJC LI gets all the credit they deserve and their stars did what they were supposed to do.
SJC BKLYN however doesn't get credit sometimes, and I think its warranted here. There are no moral victories but they are a team who is almost always smaller and almost never as deep, as their opponents. This is the 2nd Skyline team they gave a great run to in the past couple of weeks. They are a tough team who could definitely pull an upset or 2 in the region. Kudos to the Bears and to their coach as well, as he deserves some credit as well.
The battle of the St Joe's is pretty cool, wonder why they don't play it annually?
Again, anyone who doesn't think St Joe's Brooklyn deserves to be an NCAA Skyline team is crazy. SJC LI is considered by many to be one of the top 2-3 teams in the skyline, and they went into the half holding a 1 point lead. This was a game where LI did lead the entire game, with SJC Brooklyn tying it up 3 times, so SJC LI handled business. But this was no easy game it seems. Until about the 9 minute mark left in the game it was a 2-3 possession game. At this point a team like SJC LI just has the depth and muscle to wear down their opponents and they pulled away en route to a 20+ point victory, SJC LI gets all the credit they deserve and their stars did what they were supposed to do.
SJC BKLYN however doesn't get credit sometimes, and I think its warranted here. There are no moral victories but they are a team who is almost always smaller and almost never as deep, as their opponents. This is the 2nd Skyline team they gave a great run to in the past couple of weeks. They are a tough team who could definitely pull an upset or 2 in the region. Kudos to the Bears and to their coach as well, as he deserves some credit as well.
The battle of the St Joe's is pretty cool, wonder why they don't play it annually?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 05, 2008, 11:54:29 PM
Post by: CityD3 on December 05, 2008, 11:54:29 PM
The battle of st joe's did seem like it went as expected with LI winning by 20, but bkbasketball is right. this was in no way an easy win for LI. Bears of Bk opened up hot and led for pretty much the whole first half. LI was fortunate to be up one at halftime as BK had a horrible last two minutes in the first half when a couple wide open missed layups by BK and some falling asleep on defense resulted in them losing a 4 point lead very quickly . In the second half, LI ran away with it because BK is simply outconditioned. They totally ran out of gas. JJ Walsh had another great outing with 24 points and 8 rebounds while playing most of the game in foul trouble. Acree didnt shoot the ball too great, but just outran the whole BK defense for a couple uncontested fast break layups in the 2nd half that put the game away. he finished with 17 and niblock quietly had a monster game with 13 and 19. as for BK, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they have the most underrated backcourt in the area. Gist and Maddox are small but they both can play on my team. they dominated the first half which even led LI to play a triangle-and-2 on them for a couple possessions. second half was a different story as everyone on the team seemed tired. st joe's bk and their coach do deserve some credit, but again they gotta win one of these games. They have come close in years past andd seem to always fall short. They are gettin there, but they aint ready just yet.
PS: very good size crowd and a good atmosphere for DIII game-they should make it an annual thing bklynbasketball. after the mini-scare in the first half, im not sure if coach mateyko would want that.
PS: very good size crowd and a good atmosphere for DIII game-they should make it an annual thing bklynbasketball. after the mini-scare in the first half, im not sure if coach mateyko would want that.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 06, 2008, 12:19:20 AM
Post by: d3hero on December 06, 2008, 12:19:20 AM
You Bard folks are ABSOLUTELY wacked out of your minds but i enjoy telling you how i think your team is awful and how the team i'm for is fantastic.
I also enjoy your squabbles and teaming up against me - that's also great.
Also, Justin White would not "bust my ass" if i played against him and Jerrell Lewis DID destroy him and your team's zone. I say this because he is the point guard and Jerrell is the point guard thus, with Jerrell outperforming White, he in my opinion, was better.
For your information, I've attended Purchase games this season and will be at tomorrow's game when they will beat Brooklyn College.
As for everything else you wrote, good for you. I hope you get your ENTIRE team back because even with everyone healthy and in great shape, they're still only going to have a chance against ....... (nobody) this year.
I also enjoy your squabbles and teaming up against me - that's also great.
Also, Justin White would not "bust my ass" if i played against him and Jerrell Lewis DID destroy him and your team's zone. I say this because he is the point guard and Jerrell is the point guard thus, with Jerrell outperforming White, he in my opinion, was better.
For your information, I've attended Purchase games this season and will be at tomorrow's game when they will beat Brooklyn College.
As for everything else you wrote, good for you. I hope you get your ENTIRE team back because even with everyone healthy and in great shape, they're still only going to have a chance against ....... (nobody) this year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylineman on December 06, 2008, 05:10:33 PM
Post by: skylineman on December 06, 2008, 05:10:33 PM
Well actually purchase doesn't have their full roster, if purchase had every player they were supposed too you'd see their 6'8 big man with a jump shot, smooth touch and guard skills dominating the league. But for reasons beyond me, he is ineligible. Purchase with that team would have been unstoppable.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 06, 2008, 06:21:21 PM
Post by: CityD3 on December 06, 2008, 06:21:21 PM
Quote from: d3hero on December 06, 2008, 12:19:20 AM
For your information, I've attended Purchase games this season and will be at tomorrow's game when they will beat Brooklyn College.
How'd that prediction work out for your "powerhouse" panthers??? first baruch puttin a scare into farmingdale and now brooklyn taking down the "tournament ready" purchase team. shift in power in the region maybe??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on December 06, 2008, 06:49:35 PM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on December 06, 2008, 06:49:35 PM
We can officially stop the Purchase Bandwagon for a while. First good team they play all year and they lose at home.
Is this team going to be in the running and have a shot in the Skyline Tourney? Yes, they can score and do have a lot of talent. That alone means on any given night you can win.
Will they win? No. They play NO defense and rely too much on Lewis especially, and mostly one on one basketball. If he has god awful shooting days (like today), they will lose. When you score 81 and your team has 7 assists TOTAL, that is a very bad sign.
If this team somehow wins Skyline and makes NCAA's? One and done, unless the God's give them a severely favorable matchup.
Is this team going to be in the running and have a shot in the Skyline Tourney? Yes, they can score and do have a lot of talent. That alone means on any given night you can win.
Will they win? No. They play NO defense and rely too much on Lewis especially, and mostly one on one basketball. If he has god awful shooting days (like today), they will lose. When you score 81 and your team has 7 assists TOTAL, that is a very bad sign.
If this team somehow wins Skyline and makes NCAA's? One and done, unless the God's give them a severely favorable matchup.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 07, 2008, 04:27:24 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 07, 2008, 04:27:24 PM
Again, anyone who doesn't think St Joe's Brooklyn deserves to be an NCAA Skyline team is crazy.
Totally agree. Think this is a matter of when, not if. I miss those road trips.
For your information, I've attended Purchase games this season and will be at tomorrow's game when they will beat Brooklyn College.
I assume Purchase beat Brooklyn College in the same parallel universe where they beat an undermanned Bard team by 40.
Totally agree. Think this is a matter of when, not if. I miss those road trips.
For your information, I've attended Purchase games this season and will be at tomorrow's game when they will beat Brooklyn College.
I assume Purchase beat Brooklyn College in the same parallel universe where they beat an undermanned Bard team by 40.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 07, 2008, 04:46:52 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 07, 2008, 04:46:52 PM
Don't believe the hype folks. Purchase played a team that was successful last year, and they were beaten on their own court.
D3Hero:
You certainly talked a big game, but now you seem to have disappeared now that you realized your boys at Purchase can't bang with the big boys. I'm sure you'll come up with around 18 excuses as to why Purchase lost, one excuse for each shot Jerel Lewis missed. 9-27 from the field? There's a reason why he didnt cut it at the D1 school.
* on another note, "Skylineman" joins the board as D3Hero seemingly disappears. Then Skylineman makes an excuse on Purchase's behalf.. Interesting
D3Hero:
You certainly talked a big game, but now you seem to have disappeared now that you realized your boys at Purchase can't bang with the big boys. I'm sure you'll come up with around 18 excuses as to why Purchase lost, one excuse for each shot Jerel Lewis missed. 9-27 from the field? There's a reason why he didnt cut it at the D1 school.
* on another note, "Skylineman" joins the board as D3Hero seemingly disappears. Then Skylineman makes an excuse on Purchase's behalf.. Interesting
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 07, 2008, 07:16:33 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 07, 2008, 07:16:33 PM
i haven't gone anywhere you crazies.
Purchase, at times, looked like their team from last year against Brooklyn College and still, down 24 starting the 2nd half, brought it to within 2. They lost it again and BC went back up 12, only to come back down to 3. Had Purchase made some free throws, they would've taken the game.
As for All American Baptiste...
I saw him do ABSOLUTELY nothing except make a few three point shots. There are about 100 players in the Empire 8 conference that can do that and if that makes someone All American, that's pretty sad.
The skyline guy who just came on the board is absolutely right. There is a 6'8" man who isn't playing for Purchase at the moment and if he was playing, would make the Panthers a different team but that aside, Purchase played their worst game and they probably weren't prepared for it. They weren't as aggressive as they should have been and their shooting was weak. The fact that they came back not once but twice shows some character though and I think it will help them move forward in the season.
Let me also add, BUBBACHUCK - To say that Lewis didn't make it at a d1 school b/c he shot 9-27 one night against Brooklyn College is one of the most retarded statements ever made on this board (and i make plenty of them, so i should know). There were plenty of reasons he didn't get burn but you obviously don't look into that before making a bold accusation like that. Let me also add that if Lewis "can't make it" at a D1, then nobody in the conference can. He's the best player in the Skyline, hands down.
BTW, Maritime beat Farmingdale in the Bronx by 12. St. Joe's is the best team in the conference at this point in time (maybe in the region as well).
ONE MORE THING :
If you really call Brooklyn College "the big boys" then Division 3 basketball in the Atlantic region is not good. Take the Baruch team with Karis on it and match them up against these guys and you would see a dismantling of the Bridges.
Purchase, at times, looked like their team from last year against Brooklyn College and still, down 24 starting the 2nd half, brought it to within 2. They lost it again and BC went back up 12, only to come back down to 3. Had Purchase made some free throws, they would've taken the game.
As for All American Baptiste...
I saw him do ABSOLUTELY nothing except make a few three point shots. There are about 100 players in the Empire 8 conference that can do that and if that makes someone All American, that's pretty sad.
The skyline guy who just came on the board is absolutely right. There is a 6'8" man who isn't playing for Purchase at the moment and if he was playing, would make the Panthers a different team but that aside, Purchase played their worst game and they probably weren't prepared for it. They weren't as aggressive as they should have been and their shooting was weak. The fact that they came back not once but twice shows some character though and I think it will help them move forward in the season.
Let me also add, BUBBACHUCK - To say that Lewis didn't make it at a d1 school b/c he shot 9-27 one night against Brooklyn College is one of the most retarded statements ever made on this board (and i make plenty of them, so i should know). There were plenty of reasons he didn't get burn but you obviously don't look into that before making a bold accusation like that. Let me also add that if Lewis "can't make it" at a D1, then nobody in the conference can. He's the best player in the Skyline, hands down.
BTW, Maritime beat Farmingdale in the Bronx by 12. St. Joe's is the best team in the conference at this point in time (maybe in the region as well).
ONE MORE THING :
If you really call Brooklyn College "the big boys" then Division 3 basketball in the Atlantic region is not good. Take the Baruch team with Karis on it and match them up against these guys and you would see a dismantling of the Bridges.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 07, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 07, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
D3Hero:
Looking at the box score, Baptiste had 21 points on 6-10 shooting (5-8 from behind the arc, those are the "few" threes he hit). To go along with 8 boards, 2 blocks and 2 assists.
I suppose a player who does all of that for his team should never be considered an All American.
Surely we should nominate Mr. Lewis from Purchase. Lewis had 22 points while taking 17 more shots than Baptiste did, going 0-8 from 3. Mr. Lewis also contributed a whopping 2 assists, clearly an indication of his Division I point guard ability.
As for Purchase being the next great team in the region:
Purchase's collection of NBA lottery picks had 7 assists for the game. Guerin from Brooklyn had 8 assists by himself.
* In response to your comments.. I was not the one anointing Purchase , you were. You got all excited because Purchase beat New Paltz, a team that was under .500 last year. I was simply enlightening you to the fact that up until yesterday, they had played nobody worth mentioning and yesterday's loss proved that Purchase is not to be considered an upper echelon team in the region (Stockton, Ramapo, Brooklyn, St. Joe's)
Looking at the box score, Baptiste had 21 points on 6-10 shooting (5-8 from behind the arc, those are the "few" threes he hit). To go along with 8 boards, 2 blocks and 2 assists.
I suppose a player who does all of that for his team should never be considered an All American.
Surely we should nominate Mr. Lewis from Purchase. Lewis had 22 points while taking 17 more shots than Baptiste did, going 0-8 from 3. Mr. Lewis also contributed a whopping 2 assists, clearly an indication of his Division I point guard ability.
As for Purchase being the next great team in the region:
Purchase's collection of NBA lottery picks had 7 assists for the game. Guerin from Brooklyn had 8 assists by himself.
* In response to your comments.. I was not the one anointing Purchase , you were. You got all excited because Purchase beat New Paltz, a team that was under .500 last year. I was simply enlightening you to the fact that up until yesterday, they had played nobody worth mentioning and yesterday's loss proved that Purchase is not to be considered an upper echelon team in the region (Stockton, Ramapo, Brooklyn, St. Joe's)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 07, 2008, 09:02:11 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 07, 2008, 09:02:11 PM
Bubba,
you must really not be bright. OF COURSE purchase only had 7 assists. When your team goes 1-18 from the three point line, how are you supposed to get assists? You can't. Unless the person who you pass the ball to SCORES, you can't get an assist. I think you would know that, no?
Most of Purchase's points came off of rebounds, offensive rebounds. 20 offensive boards. They lead the conference in that stat category btw. Also, they lead the conference in A to TO ratio (maybe not after yesterday, but they did up to that point).
you must really not be bright. OF COURSE purchase only had 7 assists. When your team goes 1-18 from the three point line, how are you supposed to get assists? You can't. Unless the person who you pass the ball to SCORES, you can't get an assist. I think you would know that, no?
Most of Purchase's points came off of rebounds, offensive rebounds. 20 offensive boards. They lead the conference in that stat category btw. Also, they lead the conference in A to TO ratio (maybe not after yesterday, but they did up to that point).
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 07, 2008, 09:20:26 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 07, 2008, 09:20:26 PM
Having someone capable of hitting a 3 be the person taking the shot would help. Running an offense, that crazy old idea. That might work.
Another crazy thought of mine, is that if someone doesn't take 27 shots, the chances for more assists are abundant. These are just a few of my thoughts.
Another crazy thought of mine, is that if someone doesn't take 27 shots, the chances for more assists are abundant. These are just a few of my thoughts.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on December 08, 2008, 12:06:00 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on December 08, 2008, 12:06:00 AM
OF COURSE purchase only had 7 assists. When your team goes 1-18 from the three point line, how are you supposed to get assists? You can't. Unless the person who you pass the ball to SCORES, you can't get an assist.
So Purchase is a great offensive team, and your proof is that Purchase can't get assists because they are a godawful three-point point shooting team?
The Maginot Line was a tremendous defense, because once the Germans went around it to get into France, the country crumbled.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: 123456 on December 08, 2008, 09:20:43 AM
Post by: 123456 on December 08, 2008, 09:20:43 AM
Maritime 84, Farmingdale 73
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 08, 2008, 10:36:56 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 08, 2008, 10:36:56 AM
regardless of all the banter back and forth and the trash talk, Purchase is still a very dangerous team. They are not as good as some will lead you to believe nor as bad as others will. Fact is they have a couple of guys in Lewis and Billups who can erupt and score a ton on you. They we be a force come Skyline Conf. tourney time.
Maritime beating Farmingdale is a big win for the Privateers, thats a win that can have serious implications come conference tourney time. Would love to have seen it, im sure it was a good game. Not many Maritime ppl post here though. Same with Farmingdale.
Old Westbury beats Poly, things are tough in Polytech land these days. Theyre in every game but havent won one yet. Young teams tend to do that. On the other hand, Lester Prosper is the best big in the conference, and one of the best in the region.
MSV has put up about 400 points in their last 4 games, and they are 2-0 in the conference, when is the last time they did that? I would love to know. They are a dangerous shooting team.
Mt St Marys, theyve got some athletic guys and a couple of shooters, they will get some wins im sure, always a dangerous team come late winter.
Maritime beating Farmingdale is a big win for the Privateers, thats a win that can have serious implications come conference tourney time. Would love to have seen it, im sure it was a good game. Not many Maritime ppl post here though. Same with Farmingdale.
Old Westbury beats Poly, things are tough in Polytech land these days. Theyre in every game but havent won one yet. Young teams tend to do that. On the other hand, Lester Prosper is the best big in the conference, and one of the best in the region.
MSV has put up about 400 points in their last 4 games, and they are 2-0 in the conference, when is the last time they did that? I would love to know. They are a dangerous shooting team.
Mt St Marys, theyve got some athletic guys and a couple of shooters, they will get some wins im sure, always a dangerous team come late winter.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 08, 2008, 10:38:38 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 08, 2008, 10:38:38 AM
Right now if you ask me in the metro area, leaving the NJ teams out of the discussion, Brooklyn is the top team. They have to be. St Joe's LI is up there too, they are in my opinion the cream of the crop in the Skyline.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 08, 2008, 01:50:23 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 08, 2008, 01:50:23 PM
as i said,
if Brooklyn College is considered the best team in the atlantic region than the state of division three basketball is at an all time low.
Regardless, St. Joe's is a better team than Brooklyn and even though they lost, I actually still believe that Purchase is too.
if Brooklyn College is considered the best team in the atlantic region than the state of division three basketball is at an all time low.
Regardless, St. Joe's is a better team than Brooklyn and even though they lost, I actually still believe that Purchase is too.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 08, 2008, 02:26:16 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 08, 2008, 02:26:16 PM
D3Hero:
You are delusional.
You are delusional.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on December 08, 2008, 04:09:14 PM
Post by: raptor31 on December 08, 2008, 04:09:14 PM
Purchase has great talent but very obviously hasn't been together long. In the one game I saw it didn't seem like their big 3 played off each other very well. Lewis is a tough combo guard but I wouldn't call him a point d3hero. He is a lot of their problems even though he is talented and can score the rock. He doesn't really drive to create for others and takes a LOT of BAD shots. PGs need to be great decision makers and he is more of a straight gunner and dangerous scorer. At Bard in a 33 pt effort he took a lot of shots as well. Every time he took an in rythm jump shot he wasn't missing. The problem is for every one of those he takes a bad pull up or contested 3. If they can get him to get his shot selection under control and use his penetration ability to create for teammates that would help PC out a lot. He had 0 assists in that game and when your PG isn't sharing the ball it creates issues. I have no problem with points shooting a lot but they can't be bad shots! PC might be better off putting the ball in the kid Walters hands more and let Lewis play off the ball. I don't know their team well but having Lewis play point seemed to be the same problem Philly had with AI at the point and the issues of every Stephon Marbury team.
For anyone who is realistic about D3 basketball Purchase is obviously not an NCAA tourney team. They have the talent (and with a supposed 6'8 big with guard skills they REALLY have talent... is this going to be Leon Smith??? I wondered what happened to him) and if their staff can put that talent together in a way where they will play good basketball and share the ball then they could play with SJ and Farm a little but until then they won't. We will wait and see.
For anyone who is realistic about D3 basketball Purchase is obviously not an NCAA tourney team. They have the talent (and with a supposed 6'8 big with guard skills they REALLY have talent... is this going to be Leon Smith??? I wondered what happened to him) and if their staff can put that talent together in a way where they will play good basketball and share the ball then they could play with SJ and Farm a little but until then they won't. We will wait and see.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on December 08, 2008, 04:10:58 PM
Post by: raptor31 on December 08, 2008, 04:10:58 PM
Tough game for Bard against the best team in the Skyline tomorrow. Could get ugly... what are the other matchups this week?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on December 08, 2008, 09:44:15 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on December 08, 2008, 09:44:15 PM
St. Joes VS MSV
didnt think at the start of the year this would be a good matchup. But both are 2-0 in the conference. MSV has played hard against everyone, and is showing a high-power offence thus far. but im not sure if the St. Joes Defence will be too much for them.
we shall see....
im picking St. Joes 107-101
didnt think at the start of the year this would be a good matchup. But both are 2-0 in the conference. MSV has played hard against everyone, and is showing a high-power offence thus far. but im not sure if the St. Joes Defence will be too much for them.
we shall see....
im picking St. Joes 107-101
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 09, 2008, 11:16:31 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 09, 2008, 11:16:31 AM
I agree, MSV has been scoring alot and has swept this weeks Skyline individual awards
http://www.d3hoops.com/pressreleases.php?release=2565
But SJC LI has alot of weapons in Niblock Acree and Walsh who has been lighting it up this year.
Should be a good game though.
MSMC @ Poly could be a good game as well, neither has a win in the conference yet, however MSMC lost to MAritime by 2, then got handled by MSV. Poly has been in every game theyve played thus far, and are hungry for their first win as well. Could be an interesting game.
Decent night for Skyline fans.
http://www.d3hoops.com/pressreleases.php?release=2565
But SJC LI has alot of weapons in Niblock Acree and Walsh who has been lighting it up this year.
Should be a good game though.
MSMC @ Poly could be a good game as well, neither has a win in the conference yet, however MSMC lost to MAritime by 2, then got handled by MSV. Poly has been in every game theyve played thus far, and are hungry for their first win as well. Could be an interesting game.
Decent night for Skyline fans.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 10, 2008, 02:28:17 PM
Post by: CityD3 on December 10, 2008, 02:28:17 PM
looks like mount saint vincent played a competitive game against st joe's LI. niblock and walsh combined for 40 points and 31 rebounds with acree adding 26. the dolphins were led by dimaggio and cooke with 28 and 21, repectively. Early ROY candidate battle had his first bad game. Anyone see this game live?? seems to me lack of a big man continues to hurt msv, but playing with the class of the conference bodes well for first year coach nigro.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on December 10, 2008, 04:26:34 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on December 10, 2008, 04:26:34 PM
i was interested in the game so i traveled from LI to go watch. MSV isnt a pushover by any means. SJC was only up 4 at the half. that kid dimaggio is legit. good ball handler and can really shoot. cooke was no surprise - hes one of the best overall players in the conference.
no doubt MSV lacks a big man. i cant even describe how many 3rd of 4th opportunities SJC had, and took advantage of them. they could come up with a 6 seed in the tourney and maybe surprise some people.
MARATIME BEAT FARMINGDALE ?!?!?!?!!? - dont get me wrong im pumped about it ... but i was not expecting that
no doubt MSV lacks a big man. i cant even describe how many 3rd of 4th opportunities SJC had, and took advantage of them. they could come up with a 6 seed in the tourney and maybe surprise some people.
MARATIME BEAT FARMINGDALE ?!?!?!?!!? - dont get me wrong im pumped about it ... but i was not expecting that
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 11, 2008, 01:35:45 AM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on December 11, 2008, 01:35:45 AM
Dear D3Hero:
You have officially lost your license to post on this board. Purchase has fallen on its home floor to 2 CUNY Teams in the past 4 days.
So seriously.. No need to talk anymore..
Okay, okay.. How about you admit you jumped the gun a tad bit on Purchase's rise to national prominence.
And then... No more from you...
Shhhhhhhh..... We know, we know... Purchase is still awesome and better than all CUNYs... We know...
Shhhh.... Its okay..
You have officially lost your license to post on this board. Purchase has fallen on its home floor to 2 CUNY Teams in the past 4 days.
So seriously.. No need to talk anymore..
Okay, okay.. How about you admit you jumped the gun a tad bit on Purchase's rise to national prominence.
And then... No more from you...
Shhhhhhhh..... We know, we know... Purchase is still awesome and better than all CUNYs... We know...
Shhhh.... Its okay..
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 11, 2008, 09:11:19 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 11, 2008, 09:11:19 AM
Lehman downs Purchase without Jameson Garcia. Good game for The Lightning.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 11, 2008, 10:34:59 AM
Post by: d3hero on December 11, 2008, 10:34:59 AM
Lehman is athletic and is well coached. Purchase actually played better against Brooklyn but oh well. We'll see how they do in the regular season.
all i know is that Jerrell Lewis will not be stopped from scoring points. He had the flu last night and played very well. John Simmons is also stepping up for Purchase and making an impact.
Let's also remember : Orgias, Billups, Walters & Simmons all return next year.
all i know is that Jerrell Lewis will not be stopped from scoring points. He had the flu last night and played very well. John Simmons is also stepping up for Purchase and making an impact.
Let's also remember : Orgias, Billups, Walters & Simmons all return next year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 11, 2008, 12:41:34 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 11, 2008, 12:41:34 PM
So we are nearing the Christmas break, is it too early for predictions?
SJC
Farmingdale
Maritime
Purchase
Westbury
Cmsv
Yeshiva
MSMC
BARD
NYU-Poly
SJC
Farmingdale
Maritime
Purchase
Westbury
Cmsv
Yeshiva
MSMC
BARD
NYU-Poly
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 11, 2008, 04:37:25 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 11, 2008, 04:37:25 PM
right now,
i think those standings are pretty realistic.
St. Joe's, Maritime, Old Westbury, Farmingdale, Purchase & MSV will be the playoff teams in this conference. In what order? I'm not sure and that's yet to be determined. However, those are the playoff teams. A lot can happen between now and the end of Feb. though.
i think those standings are pretty realistic.
St. Joe's, Maritime, Old Westbury, Farmingdale, Purchase & MSV will be the playoff teams in this conference. In what order? I'm not sure and that's yet to be determined. However, those are the playoff teams. A lot can happen between now and the end of Feb. though.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 16, 2008, 04:12:58 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 16, 2008, 04:12:58 PM
wow i am SO lost.
Maritime beats Farmingdale by 11 and then loses to Yeshiva by 3, making Martin Leibowich player of the week and puts him on the ECAC honor roll.
This conference is nuts.
St. Joe's watch out when you guys play Bard. The way things are going, i wouldn't be surprised.
Maritime beats Farmingdale by 11 and then loses to Yeshiva by 3, making Martin Leibowich player of the week and puts him on the ECAC honor roll.
This conference is nuts.
St. Joe's watch out when you guys play Bard. The way things are going, i wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 16, 2008, 05:43:59 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 16, 2008, 05:43:59 PM
Maritime also beat MSMC by 1 and MSMC lost to MSV by alot...its a wide open conference right now
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on December 17, 2008, 01:49:17 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on December 17, 2008, 01:49:17 PM
Wide open? Lets be realistic - SJC will probablly take the #1 seed in the tournament if they keep playing at this level.
Farmingdale had a surprising loss - whatever it happens...
OW is good
Maratime can play with everyone and pull out big wins - hey a win is a win - i dont care who its against.
MSV has a few good young guys and a strong Sr. shooter
Purchase is ... well purchase - i guess they were just too hyped up in the pre season - now im just left dissapointed.
P.S. Bard is done...
Farmingdale had a surprising loss - whatever it happens...
OW is good
Maratime can play with everyone and pull out big wins - hey a win is a win - i dont care who its against.
MSV has a few good young guys and a strong Sr. shooter
Purchase is ... well purchase - i guess they were just too hyped up in the pre season - now im just left dissapointed.
P.S. Bard is done...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 17, 2008, 02:10:09 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 17, 2008, 02:10:09 PM
so thats 6 teams who could potentially on any given night beat the other?
you wouldnt call that wide open?
you wouldnt call that wide open?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on December 18, 2008, 01:52:56 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on December 18, 2008, 01:52:56 PM
im sorry i misunderstood you. I thought you were speaking primarially on playoff seeds. i appologize. If your talking about a confrence champ - yes its wide open
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 19, 2008, 12:09:34 AM
Post by: d3hero on December 19, 2008, 12:09:34 AM
the fact of the matter is that there are 8 teams in this conference that are capable of beating one another with two absolute doormats who will prob. end the season either 0-25, 1-24 or 2-23. You do the math and figure out who they would get those two possible wins against.
it should be exciting. we'll also see who each team gets in during the next semester.
it should be exciting. we'll also see who each team gets in during the next semester.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on December 19, 2008, 12:05:56 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on December 19, 2008, 12:05:56 PM
So is all this hype officially over about Purchase?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 19, 2008, 01:25:56 PM
Post by: CityD3 on December 19, 2008, 01:25:56 PM
considering that the only person who believed the hype was the one who started it- d3hero...yes the hype is done. two losses to CUNY teams (considered the weaker conference) killed the "hype." they still could be a force in the skyline but winning games in the NCAA is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 19, 2008, 01:55:09 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 19, 2008, 01:55:09 PM
The fact of the matter is that one of Purchase's key recruits isn't playing this season and without him, they're a different team. A 6'9" guy who can PLAY would absolutely crush the entire atlantic conference teams and that's what this squad is missing.
Regardless, I still believe that Purchase is going to be a force in the Skyline. As i said in a recent post, it's one of the most competitive years the conference has seen in...well, possibly ever. There are 8 good teams that can beat one another on any given night and that makes for exciting division three basketball. The days of Mville & Stevens at the top with the 3rd place team rotating between Farmingdale, St. Joe's & Old Westbury are done.
We'll see what happens come spring time.
Regardless, I still believe that Purchase is going to be a force in the Skyline. As i said in a recent post, it's one of the most competitive years the conference has seen in...well, possibly ever. There are 8 good teams that can beat one another on any given night and that makes for exciting division three basketball. The days of Mville & Stevens at the top with the 3rd place team rotating between Farmingdale, St. Joe's & Old Westbury are done.
We'll see what happens come spring time.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on December 19, 2008, 02:21:14 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on December 19, 2008, 02:21:14 PM
Quote from: d3hero on December 19, 2008, 01:55:09 PM
The fact of the matter is that one of Purchase's key recruits isn't playing this season and without him, they're a different team. A 6'9" guy who can PLAY would absolutely crush the entire atlantic conference teams and that's what this squad is missing.
Regardless, I still believe that Purchase is going to be a force in the Skyline. As i said in a recent post, it's one of the most competitive years the conference has seen in...well, possibly ever. There are 8 good teams that can beat one another on any given night and that makes for exciting division three basketball. The days of Mville & Stevens at the top with the 3rd place team rotating between Farmingdale, St. Joe's & Old Westbury are done.
We'll see what happens come spring time.
Stevens at the top, they were only good for two years, before that they were pretty much garbage.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 19, 2008, 04:26:32 PM
Post by: CityD3 on December 19, 2008, 04:26:32 PM
Quote from: d3hero on December 19, 2008, 01:55:09 PM
We'll see what happens come spring time.
Last time I checked games are played and won during winter.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on December 19, 2008, 09:41:48 PM
Post by: d3hero on December 19, 2008, 09:41:48 PM
spring, late winter, whatever dude. stop being a you know what.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on January 06, 2009, 12:00:01 AM
Post by: CityD3 on January 06, 2009, 12:00:01 AM
tough start to the new year for the skyline. Mount st marys loses two games in a holiday tourney. St Joe's, who we've been arguin may be th best in the region, beats Potsdam but loses to Montclair in OT down in Fla. and Mount St vincents loses by 23 at Centenary. The Rookie of the Year candidate randy battle wasn't in the box score. what happened there??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: OxyBob on January 06, 2009, 03:25:13 AM
Post by: OxyBob on January 06, 2009, 03:25:13 AM
Eyewitness report from Pasadena:
Caltech 77, Polytechnic 69
CIT: Matt Dellatorre 27 pts, 10 rebs, 3 assists, 3 steals, Travis Haussler 19 pts, 12 rebs, 2 assists, 5 blocks, Ryan Elmquist 14, Wei Li 11
NYU-Poly: Arjun Ohri 25, Andre Robinson 17 pts, 7 rebs, 3 assists, 3 steals, Anthony Mottola 10
Halftime: CIT 40-24
Rebounds: CIT 38-36
Records: Caltech 1-10, Polytechnic 0-10
Very entertaining game between Caltech and NYU-Poly. CIT got off to a quick 7-0 lead and never trailed in the game. Arjun Ohri's 3-point play brought the Fighting Blue Jays within 7-5, but that's as close they'd get the rest of the night. The Beavers took a 26-12 lead on Travis Haussler's layup at 9:30, stretched the lead to 18, and led 40-24 at the break. In the second half, CIT led 52-37 at 12:25, but NYU-Poly scored 11 straight to close to 52-48 at 8:40. Wei Li's 3-ball broke the scoreless spell for CIT to push the lead back to 7, and the Blue Jays didn't get closer than 4 the rest of the way. The Beavers won it at the free throw line by sinking 28-for-33, while NYU-Poly was only 10-for-20, and missed several chances to close the gap by clanking their FTs.
For Caltech, the Beavers had 4 starters in double figures. Matt Dellatorre scored 27 points on 6-for-13 FGs and 13-for-14 from the line, and also pulled down 10 rebounds. Travis Haussler played a very strong game in the post with 19 points and 12 rebounds, and had 5 blocks. Ryan Elmquist had 14 points on 4-for-6 FGs and 6-for-6 FTs, and made a key basket on a put back with 3 minutes to go. Wei Li scored 11 and hit on 3-for-5 on 3-balls. For Polytechnic, Arjun Ohri played a strong game with 25 points on 10-for-18 FGs and 3-for-3 from the line. Andre Robinson scored 17 and had 7 boards, and Anthony Mottola had 10.
I've now seen Caltech win its last 3 games. I saw CIT break its 207-game losing streak to D-III teams against Bard on 01/06/07, I saw them break an 18-game losing streak against Gallaudet on 12/17/07, and I saw them break a 30-game losing streak tonight. Fear the Beavers!
OxyBob
Caltech 77, Polytechnic 69
CIT: Matt Dellatorre 27 pts, 10 rebs, 3 assists, 3 steals, Travis Haussler 19 pts, 12 rebs, 2 assists, 5 blocks, Ryan Elmquist 14, Wei Li 11
NYU-Poly: Arjun Ohri 25, Andre Robinson 17 pts, 7 rebs, 3 assists, 3 steals, Anthony Mottola 10
Halftime: CIT 40-24
Rebounds: CIT 38-36
Records: Caltech 1-10, Polytechnic 0-10
Very entertaining game between Caltech and NYU-Poly. CIT got off to a quick 7-0 lead and never trailed in the game. Arjun Ohri's 3-point play brought the Fighting Blue Jays within 7-5, but that's as close they'd get the rest of the night. The Beavers took a 26-12 lead on Travis Haussler's layup at 9:30, stretched the lead to 18, and led 40-24 at the break. In the second half, CIT led 52-37 at 12:25, but NYU-Poly scored 11 straight to close to 52-48 at 8:40. Wei Li's 3-ball broke the scoreless spell for CIT to push the lead back to 7, and the Blue Jays didn't get closer than 4 the rest of the way. The Beavers won it at the free throw line by sinking 28-for-33, while NYU-Poly was only 10-for-20, and missed several chances to close the gap by clanking their FTs.
For Caltech, the Beavers had 4 starters in double figures. Matt Dellatorre scored 27 points on 6-for-13 FGs and 13-for-14 from the line, and also pulled down 10 rebounds. Travis Haussler played a very strong game in the post with 19 points and 12 rebounds, and had 5 blocks. Ryan Elmquist had 14 points on 4-for-6 FGs and 6-for-6 FTs, and made a key basket on a put back with 3 minutes to go. Wei Li scored 11 and hit on 3-for-5 on 3-balls. For Polytechnic, Arjun Ohri played a strong game with 25 points on 10-for-18 FGs and 3-for-3 from the line. Andre Robinson scored 17 and had 7 boards, and Anthony Mottola had 10.
I've now seen Caltech win its last 3 games. I saw CIT break its 207-game losing streak to D-III teams against Bard on 01/06/07, I saw them break an 18-game losing streak against Gallaudet on 12/17/07, and I saw them break a 30-game losing streak tonight. Fear the Beavers!
OxyBob
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 06, 2009, 06:10:39 AM
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 06, 2009, 06:10:39 AM
I watched marys in the marymount tournament. the talent is there they just look out of place with each other like they dont know their rolls. Centenary should have stayed in the skyline 3-0 vs them this year they are much improved. tough loss for joe's but i think they played without walsh if im not mistaken.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on January 06, 2009, 11:53:50 AM
Post by: MMTPdthree on January 06, 2009, 11:53:50 AM
I think MSV played without ROY possibility, Randy Battle against Cetenary
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CunyPlayer03 on January 06, 2009, 02:45:51 PM
Post by: CunyPlayer03 on January 06, 2009, 02:45:51 PM
Randy Battle has failed of the Mount St Vincent Basketball team
thats why he wasnt in the box score
thats why he wasnt in the box score
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on January 07, 2009, 11:17:21 AM
Post by: MMTPdthree on January 07, 2009, 11:17:21 AM
WOW. I think that may hurt their chances of making it to the tourney. However it is a TEAM sport, but a powerful tall forward like Battle is certainly a game changer.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on January 07, 2009, 01:41:06 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on January 07, 2009, 01:41:06 PM
Losing Battle will certainly hurt MSV however they still have the conference's best shooter Joe Cook (might be the best shooter in the region, seriously).
They also score alot from the outside with their other guards. Nice win over Maritime last night.
Maritime seems to be on a roller coaster this season, beating Farmingdale, losing to Yeshiva and MSV.
Maritime picks up against Poly Tomorrow, at Poly. Expect Poly to fight hard after going 0-2 in California.
They also score alot from the outside with their other guards. Nice win over Maritime last night.
Maritime seems to be on a roller coaster this season, beating Farmingdale, losing to Yeshiva and MSV.
Maritime picks up against Poly Tomorrow, at Poly. Expect Poly to fight hard after going 0-2 in California.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on January 07, 2009, 09:33:51 PM
Post by: d3hero on January 07, 2009, 09:33:51 PM
St. Joe's lost that game to Montclair (and beat Potsdam) without their best player, JJ Walsh (24 PPG, 10 RPG). He has academic issues to deal with.
It seems like the entire conference is dealing with academic problems, though i think Old Westbury is going to become a force all of a sudden. Lester Prosper scored 33 points and had a breakout game against Christopher Newport in their last game in Arizona. If they finally wake up and realize that having a 6'10" kid that can score will make them insanely hard to beat locally, they're going to win a lot of games: apparently, with the 17 point loss to Farmingdale, they still haven't realized that fact.
BTW - Maritime lost Paul Frazier, their Jamal Webb senior replacement. They're not the same team without him.
It looks like Farmingdale hasn't lose anyone and IMO, is once again the favorite to win the league. If Walsh comes back for St. Joe's, we'll see.
Purchase is still dangerous as they have the best player in the conference, Lewis.
It seems like the entire conference is dealing with academic problems, though i think Old Westbury is going to become a force all of a sudden. Lester Prosper scored 33 points and had a breakout game against Christopher Newport in their last game in Arizona. If they finally wake up and realize that having a 6'10" kid that can score will make them insanely hard to beat locally, they're going to win a lot of games: apparently, with the 17 point loss to Farmingdale, they still haven't realized that fact.
BTW - Maritime lost Paul Frazier, their Jamal Webb senior replacement. They're not the same team without him.
It looks like Farmingdale hasn't lose anyone and IMO, is once again the favorite to win the league. If Walsh comes back for St. Joe's, we'll see.
Purchase is still dangerous as they have the best player in the conference, Lewis.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2009, 12:23:57 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 08, 2009, 12:23:57 PM
St. Joe's hosts Farmingdale tonight in a big-time Skyline matchup. If Walsh is ineligible, St. Joe's will definitely be weakened and may no longer be the favorite to win the conference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 09, 2009, 12:45:49 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 09, 2009, 12:45:49 PM
I didn't see the game, but Farmingdale easily beat St. Joe's 84-67 last night. St. Joe's was up 36-31 at the half, but the Rams outscored them 53-31 in the second half. Walsh did not play for St. Joe's and according to the box score, Mike Campbell had 23 points and 8 boards in only 16 minutes for Farmingdale. As I said before, Santana, Shannon and Campbell are one tough trio for Farmingdale.
There's no report on the Maritime @ Poly game, so it remains to be seen if the Blue Jays are still winless.
In another Skyline contest, Purchase fell to Old Westbury. I haven't seen Prosper play yet, but I will try to catch him sometime this season.
There's no report on the Maritime @ Poly game, so it remains to be seen if the Blue Jays are still winless.
In another Skyline contest, Purchase fell to Old Westbury. I haven't seen Prosper play yet, but I will try to catch him sometime this season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on January 10, 2009, 01:08:53 PM
Post by: CityD3 on January 10, 2009, 01:08:53 PM
JJ Walsh is still out for St. Joe's. However i did notice that Alvin Bray is playing now. The first I heard of Bray he was considered potentially the best player in St. Joe's history and had overseas opportunity. The interesting part of this is that this was THREE years ago. Injuries have cost him most of his career and I am happy for him that he is getting a chance to play. However, I would really like to see what St. Joe's average age is. I won't be surprised if they are older that a few NBA teams. I'm not even sure that there is anything wrong with running men in the mid 20's out there to play, but it is a very strange part of Division III basketball.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on January 10, 2009, 05:44:54 PM
Post by: d3hero on January 10, 2009, 05:44:54 PM
St. Joe's beats Purchase 72-71 with JJ Walsh playing. Marvin Billups has super game for Purchase, Acree breaks scoring record for St. Joes.
Let me also add that in my opinion, St. Joseph's isn't as good as we all thought they were, even with Walsh. They're not overly big and they do play together well but, they're not a dominating team.
Farmingdale, though suffering two losses early in the season, one by ten in their first game and another to a possible fluke game against Maritime, is looking ridiculously strong with an entire lineup featuring 6'6" players that have versatile games. Santana is scoring better than last year and nobody is playing more than 25 minutes. They're my pick right now.
Still, Purchase lost their best big man in Corey Orgias to injury and they almost took out St. Joe's tonight, even with their guy Walsh. We'll see...
Let me also add that in my opinion, St. Joseph's isn't as good as we all thought they were, even with Walsh. They're not overly big and they do play together well but, they're not a dominating team.
Farmingdale, though suffering two losses early in the season, one by ten in their first game and another to a possible fluke game against Maritime, is looking ridiculously strong with an entire lineup featuring 6'6" players that have versatile games. Santana is scoring better than last year and nobody is playing more than 25 minutes. They're my pick right now.
Still, Purchase lost their best big man in Corey Orgias to injury and they almost took out St. Joe's tonight, even with their guy Walsh. We'll see...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 12, 2009, 08:04:35 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on January 12, 2009, 08:04:35 PM
anyone know why mt st marys had to forfeit its two wins???
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on January 13, 2009, 12:34:10 AM
Post by: d3hero on January 13, 2009, 12:34:10 AM
i'm going to assume that MSM had to forfeit their only wins (thus giving Polytech possibly their only win of the year) because they were using a player who was ineligible.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2009, 04:21:15 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 13, 2009, 04:21:15 PM
Who would have thought that Mt. Saint Vincent would be tied for first place this far into the season? The Dolphins are 5-1 in conference play and are atop the Skyline standings with St. Joe's and Farmingdale. But there is a catch. So far MSV has played a weak conference schedule. They have wins over Bard, MSM, Yeshiva, Poly and Maritime, and a loss to St. Joe's. That's four wins against the weakest four teams in the Skyline, along with a better win over Maritime. In their next three games, the Dolphins face Purchase and Farmingdale on the road, and then host Old Westbury. This is going to be a much tougher stretch for MSV.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on January 13, 2009, 10:39:45 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on January 13, 2009, 10:39:45 PM
I think its a matter of what Dolphin Defence shows up to play. No doubt they are going to score a lot of points with kids like Cooke and DiMaggio shotting all day. They also got some good shooters off the bench too. But yet again - they lack a big man. And they lost Battle due to grades.
But, I cant wait to see the matchup between DiMaggio and Santana on the 17th. Both are fenominal shooters, and can both play defence.
But, I cant wait to see the matchup between DiMaggio and Santana on the 17th. Both are fenominal shooters, and can both play defence.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on January 14, 2009, 10:55:31 PM
Post by: raptor31 on January 14, 2009, 10:55:31 PM
Just want to throw some props to my boy Justin White who hit his 1,000 career point not even midway through junior year. In a pretty dark season for the Raptors he continues to stand out and impress. Don't know how the next 2 yrs will shape up for the Raptors but J has a serious shot at 2,000. Congrats to him!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CunyPlayer03 on January 15, 2009, 12:10:18 PM
Post by: CunyPlayer03 on January 15, 2009, 12:10:18 PM
I had seen the boxscore for the MSV vs Purchase game and Marvin Billups had 46 and 13 and they did not have the d1 transfer Lewis
Thats a pretty good game i might say
Thats a pretty good game i might say
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2009, 04:42:00 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 15, 2009, 04:42:00 PM
Bard blew perhaps their best chance at a victory this season when they were beaten at home last night by Poly 87-68. That certainly was a winnable game--at least on paper--for the Raptors.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on January 17, 2009, 09:34:17 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on January 17, 2009, 09:34:17 PM
St. Joes and Farmingdale starting to run away with it now???
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on January 18, 2009, 05:41:46 PM
Post by: d3hero on January 18, 2009, 05:41:46 PM
it's farmingdale's conference to lose. St. Joe's isn't that dominant. Purchase lost to them by one without their big man Orgias and Lewis played perhaps his worst game of the season.
Farmingdale had a freak loss to Maritime and one more out of league loss in their first game. It's a one team race for first with everyone else but Poly, Bard & MSM vying for 2-6.
Farmingdale had a freak loss to Maritime and one more out of league loss in their first game. It's a one team race for first with everyone else but Poly, Bard & MSM vying for 2-6.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2009, 01:48:25 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 19, 2009, 01:48:25 PM
I saw Purchase beat Poly on Saturday. It was a good game with several lead changes. Needless to say Purchase is much better than last year, but probably not as good as some have argued. Last year they had three guys who could play and this year they have about seven. Marvin Billups is the team's best player and is quite versatile. Justin Walters threw a couple of nice passes and played well down the stretch. Jerrel Lewis didn't play and I don't know if he's on the roster or not.
Arjun Ohri and Anthony Mottola played very well for Poly. The Fighting Blue Jays gave it 100% but were a bit overmatched against the Panthers.
Arjun Ohri and Anthony Mottola played very well for Poly. The Fighting Blue Jays gave it 100% but were a bit overmatched against the Panthers.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Henri Papillon Charriere on January 19, 2009, 11:25:24 PM
Post by: Henri Papillon Charriere on January 19, 2009, 11:25:24 PM
You guys were right about MSV hitting the tough stretch of their schedule. I was at the MSV Farmingdale game on Saturday and have a couple of observations. First, Farmingdale is a very powerful team both inside and outside. It goes without saying that Santana is a great player. Second, coming into the game I thought MSV would put up a better fight. They seemed disorganized. Players are in and out like hockey line changes. They have two shooters in Cook and Dimaggio, but from what I saw on Saturday they weren't the ones taking the shots. At any rate, it looks like Farmingdale is on their way to another championship. I'm going to try and catch the Rams back in action at Yeshiva tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3gift on January 21, 2009, 08:06:35 AM
Post by: d3gift on January 21, 2009, 08:06:35 AM
I first must start off and say that the skyline has become more competitive every yr. Farmingdale is very good and has always been good but i must admit that st joes will give them a run for their money. J.J Walsh is the best player in the skyline. he is a 6'5 beast that can play any position and in reality he should be playing pro ball somewhere. If purchase had a dominate big man they would be a top ranked team as well. That Marvin guy from purchase has skills tooo, but 1 man cant do it all.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on January 21, 2009, 11:29:39 AM
Post by: d3hero on January 21, 2009, 11:29:39 AM
Lewis is out with a foot injury for Purchase.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3gift on January 21, 2009, 12:36:56 PM
Post by: d3gift on January 21, 2009, 12:36:56 PM
Rams vs Eagles for the skyline once again.......
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 23, 2009, 10:00:34 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 23, 2009, 10:00:34 AM
Nice win last night for Mount St. Vincent. The Dolphins beat Old Westbury in Riverdale 96-84. They're now tied with Maritime for third place with a 6-3 record.
I went to Poly last night to check out St. Joe's and when I got there I found out the game was cancelled. That's happened to me about four or five times with junior college games, but this is the first time ever for a D3 game.
I went to Poly last night to check out St. Joe's and when I got there I found out the game was cancelled. That's happened to me about four or five times with junior college games, but this is the first time ever for a D3 game.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on January 23, 2009, 11:19:06 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on January 23, 2009, 11:19:06 AM
Why was the game cancelled?
Farmingdale beating Purchase not much of a surprise but in this league this year all these games have playoff implications. Purchase has had some injuries it seems however the general consensus is that the Rams are the top of the Skyline again, along with SJC.
Yeshiva losing to MSMC is a big one. MSMC has some nice pieces and could make a late season surge with some wins, perhaps playing spoiler for some teams, if they could rack up wins they could sneak in to the top 6 also, it wouldnt be out of the question. Is Kalster out for the season for the Macabees?
MSV winning ties them for third yes, however they own the tie breaker over Maritime...that makes Saturdays game against MAritime arguably the biggest game the MSV program has had in a while.
Farmingdale beating Purchase not much of a surprise but in this league this year all these games have playoff implications. Purchase has had some injuries it seems however the general consensus is that the Rams are the top of the Skyline again, along with SJC.
Yeshiva losing to MSMC is a big one. MSMC has some nice pieces and could make a late season surge with some wins, perhaps playing spoiler for some teams, if they could rack up wins they could sneak in to the top 6 also, it wouldnt be out of the question. Is Kalster out for the season for the Macabees?
MSV winning ties them for third yes, however they own the tie breaker over Maritime...that makes Saturdays game against MAritime arguably the biggest game the MSV program has had in a while.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 23, 2009, 11:45:03 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 23, 2009, 11:45:03 AM
Quote from: BklynBasketball on January 23, 2009, 11:19:06 AM
Why was the game cancelled?
Two people told me the refs didn't show up, but I'm not certain that's the reason.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on January 23, 2009, 11:59:40 AM
Post by: d3hero on January 23, 2009, 11:59:40 AM
the refs didn't show up? that's just ridiculous...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on January 26, 2009, 10:54:40 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on January 26, 2009, 10:54:40 AM
lots of big games since anyone has posted...
Ive said it before MSMC can sneak up on the bottom of this league! 3 wins in a row, one against Purchase. That is a big win, and Lewis was back from injury scoring 20+
Yeshiva handed Poly another league loss last night in Brooklyn. Any reports on Yeshiva? Seems Kalster is still out and Biron as well?
MSV wins 2 big ones at home vs. Old Westbury and then travels to Maritime and hands the Privateers a loss in a game with many playoff implications.
Farmingdale continues to roll and look strong, theyve got to be the favorite now.
Ive said it before MSMC can sneak up on the bottom of this league! 3 wins in a row, one against Purchase. That is a big win, and Lewis was back from injury scoring 20+
Yeshiva handed Poly another league loss last night in Brooklyn. Any reports on Yeshiva? Seems Kalster is still out and Biron as well?
MSV wins 2 big ones at home vs. Old Westbury and then travels to Maritime and hands the Privateers a loss in a game with many playoff implications.
Farmingdale continues to roll and look strong, theyve got to be the favorite now.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2009, 07:48:44 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 26, 2009, 07:48:44 PM
I saw the Yeshiva @ Poly game on Sunday. The game was competitive until midway through the second half when the Macabees broke it open. Ohri was outstanding in the first half (draining quite a few NBA three's off the dribble with defenders in his face) but he cooled off in the second half.
This is a typical Yeshiva team. Good coaching, sound on fundamentals, good passing and teamwork. Leibovich looked good: He's a pretty athletic swingman who can shoot the three and put the ball on the floor and drive to the hoop. Brookim also was impressive: He's a versatile performer, who appears to have a pretty good all-around game.
This is a typical Yeshiva team. Good coaching, sound on fundamentals, good passing and teamwork. Leibovich looked good: He's a pretty athletic swingman who can shoot the three and put the ball on the floor and drive to the hoop. Brookim also was impressive: He's a versatile performer, who appears to have a pretty good all-around game.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3gift on January 28, 2009, 08:12:23 AM
Post by: d3gift on January 28, 2009, 08:12:23 AM
The skyline is looking real competitive right now. Everyone is hungry for a win. Its obviously that the two best teams are Farmingdale and sjc. Its really no surprise that the rams are where they are but did u think the eagles would be right there fighting for that spot. Purchase and Vincent's are good teams as well....sjc are winning games by 20+ with the best player in skyline not even playing. I saw a couple of their games and Walsh is just too much of a problem on the perimeter and even more dangerous in the paint. They also have a deep bench with players that could start on other temas in the conference.... We will see in feb when the playoffs roll around...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on January 28, 2009, 11:46:55 AM
Post by: d3hero on January 28, 2009, 11:46:55 AM
ya know, i'm going to have to disagree about SJC. Even with Walsh (who wasn't in the lineup their last game btw), they only beat Purchase by 1 point and Purchase played one of their worst games this season. Acree is an acrobatic scorer and very talented but outside of him and JJ, i don't see what the big fuss is about.
As for Farmingdale...they're a good team. They have some solid players that can do things and they also move the ball better than any other team I've seen. They're not AMAZING and they aren't going to go anywhere in the NCAA (if they make it) but they are good.
As for MSV, i have no clue how they get their wins. They're slow and they rely completely on outside shooting. I guess when they're hot, they're hot though...
The teams that puzzle me the most are Old Westbury & Maritime. Maritime because I have no idea how they are winning at all; they had a good player in Paul Frazier and he's no longer with the team. They must be really well coached because talent wise, they're not great. Old Westbury on the other hand, isn't very big but they're quick and good. As for the overall size of the team, it doesn't matter when they have the only real center in the league in Prosper, a 6'10" guy with some skills. The fact that they cannot dominate with a guy like that on their squad is almost just plain stupid. That's a team that needs to re-evaluate themselves.
Purchase: They're going to destroy weak teams, that's a given. They've done it all year and they will continue to do so. Their loss against MSM will be avenged and I actually am going to favor them in their next games against SJC & Maritime. They had a serious problem with Old Westbury because of Prosper (if their coach was smart, he would use Prosper like that more often) and they looked flat against Farmingdale, though i think they can be much more competitive the next time round.
We'll see. It's almost an absolute given that Farmingdale & SJC will finish 1, 2 but 3-6 is completely up in the air. I couldn't even begin to speculate which team will be in what spot as i've seen every squad play and right now, the standings don't make much sense to me.
Last note: Leibovich is the worst team player i've ever seen (Yeshiva's guy). He chucks up three's and charges to the basket with his head down. Sure, he's 6'5" and can play but wow, you're not going to win that way. Your radio announcers even said, and i quote, "He put his head down and charged to the basket like a rhinocerous." Wow.
As for Farmingdale...they're a good team. They have some solid players that can do things and they also move the ball better than any other team I've seen. They're not AMAZING and they aren't going to go anywhere in the NCAA (if they make it) but they are good.
As for MSV, i have no clue how they get their wins. They're slow and they rely completely on outside shooting. I guess when they're hot, they're hot though...
The teams that puzzle me the most are Old Westbury & Maritime. Maritime because I have no idea how they are winning at all; they had a good player in Paul Frazier and he's no longer with the team. They must be really well coached because talent wise, they're not great. Old Westbury on the other hand, isn't very big but they're quick and good. As for the overall size of the team, it doesn't matter when they have the only real center in the league in Prosper, a 6'10" guy with some skills. The fact that they cannot dominate with a guy like that on their squad is almost just plain stupid. That's a team that needs to re-evaluate themselves.
Purchase: They're going to destroy weak teams, that's a given. They've done it all year and they will continue to do so. Their loss against MSM will be avenged and I actually am going to favor them in their next games against SJC & Maritime. They had a serious problem with Old Westbury because of Prosper (if their coach was smart, he would use Prosper like that more often) and they looked flat against Farmingdale, though i think they can be much more competitive the next time round.
We'll see. It's almost an absolute given that Farmingdale & SJC will finish 1, 2 but 3-6 is completely up in the air. I couldn't even begin to speculate which team will be in what spot as i've seen every squad play and right now, the standings don't make much sense to me.
Last note: Leibovich is the worst team player i've ever seen (Yeshiva's guy). He chucks up three's and charges to the basket with his head down. Sure, he's 6'5" and can play but wow, you're not going to win that way. Your radio announcers even said, and i quote, "He put his head down and charged to the basket like a rhinocerous." Wow.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3gift on January 28, 2009, 02:46:45 PM
Post by: d3gift on January 28, 2009, 02:46:45 PM
d3hero u gotta be kidding me. Did you watch that Purchase and Sjc game?? They baby billups and give him jordan calls when at their home court.. Two starters fouled out( Walsh and jiminez) and other guys were in foul trouble and they still managed to get a win on their home court. Its gonna be much harder for Purchase when they travel down to patchouge. They are a good team but i dont think they have a shot against farmingdale or St.joes. Their only two losses came when Walsh did not play so you tell me?????
Last nite Sjc beat Old wesbury by 20 without one of their stars(walsh). Acree, bray and niblock all had great games. Alvin bray who looks about 30 had the best game of the season so far.
Last nite Sjc beat Old wesbury by 20 without one of their stars(walsh). Acree, bray and niblock all had great games. Alvin bray who looks about 30 had the best game of the season so far.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: FROMAFAR on January 29, 2009, 02:36:37 PM
Post by: FROMAFAR on January 29, 2009, 02:36:37 PM
Hey Rhode Scholar, I am an E 8 guy, just browsing the site.... I'm curious... The ref's not showing IS rediculous :o You mentioned you think it may have been another reason.....what could that be ???
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on January 29, 2009, 09:59:47 PM
Post by: d3hero on January 29, 2009, 09:59:47 PM
Purchase beats MSM by home easily with star J. Lewis still nursing an injured foot.
Marvin Billups once again had his way and dropped 30 points with two big dunks included. Senior Kazeem Famuyide scored 15, Chad Charney 11. Corey Orgias had 12 & 7 for the Panthers as well.
Marvin Billups once again had his way and dropped 30 points with two big dunks included. Senior Kazeem Famuyide scored 15, Chad Charney 11. Corey Orgias had 12 & 7 for the Panthers as well.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ball1003 on January 29, 2009, 11:01:46 PM
Post by: ball1003 on January 29, 2009, 11:01:46 PM
D3hero are you kidding me???? You must be a player on Purchase because you have no clue about this league. You haven't stopped all year about how great they are.... they are in 5th place and are 10-7 overall.. thats very impressive i must say lol Do not even put yourself in the same sentence as Farmingdale or SJC until you beat one of them.... by the way where is Raptor Mania????? I haven't heard from him ever since he realized Bard won't win a game this year
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2009, 10:03:51 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2009, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: FROMAFAR on January 29, 2009, 02:36:37 PMTwo students told me the game was cancelled because the refs didn't show up. I didn't speak with a player, a coach or the SID. That's why I said I wasn't certain that was the reason.
Hey Rhode Scholar, I am an E 8 guy, just browsing the site.... I'm curious... The ref's not showing IS rediculous :o You mentioned you think it may have been another reason.....what could that be ???
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2009, 11:42:54 AM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2009, 11:42:54 AM
Last night I saw St. Joe's beat Poly (the refs did show up this time). The game was never in doubt, but Poly gave it 100% and didn't get blown out. Nice effort by Ohri, but he didn't get much support from his teammates. DeMarco hit some threes but Mottola was in foul trouble for much of the game and never got on track. Poly definitely misses Bucknight. Without him, the Fighting Blue Jays have no strong interior defensive presence and shot blocker.
Niblock and Hyde were effective down low for St. Joe's. Both had a lot of success against smaller Poly defenders. Acree had a strong second half, scoring from all over the court. He's quick, athletic and has good range. Once again, JJ Walsh did not play.
Niblock and Hyde were effective down low for St. Joe's. Both had a lot of success against smaller Poly defenders. Acree had a strong second half, scoring from all over the court. He's quick, athletic and has good range. Once again, JJ Walsh did not play.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on January 30, 2009, 02:53:36 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on January 30, 2009, 02:53:36 PM
Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2009, 11:42:54 AM
Last night I saw St. Joe's beat Poly (the refs did show up this time). The game was never in doubt, but Poly gave it 100% and didn't get blown out. Nice effort by Ohri, but he didn't get much support from his teammates. DeMarco hit some threes but Mottola was in foul trouble for much of the game and never got on track. Poly definitely misses Bucknight. Without him, the Fighting Blue Jays have no strong interior defensive presence and shot blocker.
Niblock and Hyde were effective down low for St. Joe's. Both had a lot of success against smaller Poly defenders. Acree had a strong second half, scoring from all over the court. He's quick, athletic and has good range. Once again, JJ Walsh did not play.
Slight typo there Rhodes...Bucknight is the asst coach and former CCNY standout. Although he would probably be a huge life if he played for Poly...theyre missing Buckner, their center 8)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2009, 04:06:31 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2009, 04:06:31 PM
Quote from: BklynBasketball on January 30, 2009, 02:53:36 PMYeah, you're right. Buckner is the center and Bucknight is the assistant coach.Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on January 30, 2009, 11:42:54 AM
Last night I saw St. Joe's beat Poly (the refs did show up this time). The game was never in doubt, but Poly gave it 100% and didn't get blown out. Nice effort by Ohri, but he didn't get much support from his teammates. DeMarco hit some threes but Mottola was in foul trouble for much of the game and never got on track. Poly definitely misses Bucknight. Without him, the Fighting Blue Jays have no strong interior defensive presence and shot blocker.
Niblock and Hyde were effective down low for St. Joe's. Both had a lot of success against smaller Poly defenders. Acree had a strong second half, scoring from all over the court. He's quick, athletic and has good range. Once again, JJ Walsh did not play.
Slight typo there Rhodes...Bucknight is the asst coach and former CCNY standout. Although he would probably be a huge life if he played for Poly...theyre missing Buckner, their center 8)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ball1003 on January 31, 2009, 12:39:52 PM
Post by: ball1003 on January 31, 2009, 12:39:52 PM
Don't worry Rhodes... when st. joe's gets healthy in a week they're gonna be hard to beat.... its a 2 team race... Feb. 12 SJC @ Farm that will decide home court in the finals....
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on January 31, 2009, 08:09:35 PM
Post by: d3hero on January 31, 2009, 08:09:35 PM
i would just like to remind everyone of how i said that Bard will not win a game this year. Well, they haven't won yet and it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
It's official: Bard is the worst team in division three basketball.
It's official: Bard is the worst team in division three basketball.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2009, 02:55:16 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2009, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: ball1003 on January 31, 2009, 12:39:52 PMThere's no doubt Farmingdale and St. Joe's are the two best teams in the conference. Let's see what happens on Feb. 12. Farmingdale beat St. Joe's by 17 in their first meeting in Patchogue.
Don't worry Rhodes... when st. joe's gets healthy in a week they're gonna be hard to beat.... its a 2 team race... Feb. 12 SJC @ Farm that will decide home court in the finals....
Quote from: d3hero on January 31, 2009, 08:09:35 PMDon't know if the Raptors are the worst, but they're certainly one of the worst. They evidently didn't find replacements for Washington and Arocho.
It's official: Bard is the worst team in division three basketball.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2009, 02:59:26 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2009, 02:59:26 PM
I also find it interesting that Mount St. Vincent has sole possession of third place. The Dolphins are the surprise team in the Skyline. They're 9-3 in conference play and are riding a four-game win streak, including wins over Old Westbury and Maritime.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 01, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
One last thing: I saw the second half of the Old Westbury @ Poly game yesterday. Once again, Poly hung in there, but came up short. They have a very young team and should be more competitive next year.
I was impressed with Prosper on Old Westbury. He's got a solid body, but needs to get a little stronger and more physical. He has a pretty good shooting touch from outside and he has a very nice midrange game. Down low, he has decent moves but needs more polish. On defense, he made on excellent block and altered a couple of other shots. Overall he looks very good, but he has the potential to dominate down the road.
Hakiem George also looked good for the Panthers. He has an excellent jump shot with NBA range.
I was impressed with Prosper on Old Westbury. He's got a solid body, but needs to get a little stronger and more physical. He has a pretty good shooting touch from outside and he has a very nice midrange game. Down low, he has decent moves but needs more polish. On defense, he made on excellent block and altered a couple of other shots. Overall he looks very good, but he has the potential to dominate down the road.
Hakiem George also looked good for the Panthers. He has an excellent jump shot with NBA range.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on February 02, 2009, 01:03:48 PM
Post by: d3hero on February 02, 2009, 01:03:48 PM
I hope that MSV stays in the playoffs and runs against Purchase in the first round. That will be an easy win for the Panthers.
No idea how Vincent's is winning. They're slow and rely completely on outside shooting with little defense.
No idea how Vincent's is winning. They're slow and rely completely on outside shooting with little defense.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 02, 2009, 06:28:50 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 02, 2009, 06:28:50 PM
"by the way where is Raptor Mania?Huh? I haven't heard from him ever since he realized Bard won't win a game this year"
Working on about nine other projects- but losing never stopped me from posting before. And unlike past years, this is a team just ravaged by injuries. More talent when healthy than the team that won 8 last year.
"i would just like to remind everyone of how i said that Bard will not win a game this year. Well, they haven't won yet and it doesn't look like it's going to happen."
My kudos to our member of the Psychic Friends Network. He also was able to see that Bard would lose 80% of its starting lineup to significant injuries, along with three major contributors on the bench.
His psychic abilities don't appear to have extended to SUNY-Purchase dominating the Skyline Conference (watched Purchase struggle at home for most of the game against a battered Bard team). But you can't win them all.
Leave it to d3hero, though- he makes up for his psychic misses with the class to kick an injured team when it's down.
Working on about nine other projects- but losing never stopped me from posting before. And unlike past years, this is a team just ravaged by injuries. More talent when healthy than the team that won 8 last year.
"i would just like to remind everyone of how i said that Bard will not win a game this year. Well, they haven't won yet and it doesn't look like it's going to happen."
My kudos to our member of the Psychic Friends Network. He also was able to see that Bard would lose 80% of its starting lineup to significant injuries, along with three major contributors on the bench.
His psychic abilities don't appear to have extended to SUNY-Purchase dominating the Skyline Conference (watched Purchase struggle at home for most of the game against a battered Bard team). But you can't win them all.
Leave it to d3hero, though- he makes up for his psychic misses with the class to kick an injured team when it's down.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on February 02, 2009, 08:01:12 PM
Post by: d3hero on February 02, 2009, 08:01:12 PM
What injuries? Don't begin to tell me that Forrest Alvarez would have really helped your completely horrendous basketball team win a game. You have Justin White and supposedly he's the closest thing to "god" that Bard College has ever seen. Shouldn't he propel your team to a mighty victory?
Speaking of INJURIES, the Purchase squad has been without its star player and their best big man Orgias has a messed up calf. Take that plus their main big man, 6'8" with fantastic skills, hasn't played a game all season.
I would LOVE to see what fantastic recruits Bard brings in next year. Are you going to conjure up the ghosts of ... you tell me to play for your squad?
And losing before might not have stopped you from posting but certainly losing now has.
Speaking of INJURIES, the Purchase squad has been without its star player and their best big man Orgias has a messed up calf. Take that plus their main big man, 6'8" with fantastic skills, hasn't played a game all season.
I would LOVE to see what fantastic recruits Bard brings in next year. Are you going to conjure up the ghosts of ... you tell me to play for your squad?
And losing before might not have stopped you from posting but certainly losing now has.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 02, 2009, 11:05:59 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 02, 2009, 11:05:59 PM
"What injuries? Don't begin to tell me that Forrest Alvarez would have really helped your completely horrendous basketball team win a game. You have Justin White and supposedly he's the closest thing to "god" that Bard College has ever seen. Shouldn't he propel your team to a mighty victory?"
We can agree to disagree if any team can lose 80% of its starting lineup and three key reserves and not be decimated.
"Speaking of INJURIES, the Purchase squad has been without its star player and their best big man Orgias has a messed up calf. Take that plus their main big man, 6'8" with fantastic skills, hasn't played a game all season."
Yes. This sounds exactly the same.
"And losing before might not have stopped you from posting but certainly losing now has."
You realize you are making this statement in reply to my post, right?
We can agree to disagree if any team can lose 80% of its starting lineup and three key reserves and not be decimated.
"Speaking of INJURIES, the Purchase squad has been without its star player and their best big man Orgias has a messed up calf. Take that plus their main big man, 6'8" with fantastic skills, hasn't played a game all season."
Yes. This sounds exactly the same.
"And losing before might not have stopped you from posting but certainly losing now has."
You realize you are making this statement in reply to my post, right?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on February 03, 2009, 11:39:37 PM
Post by: d3hero on February 03, 2009, 11:39:37 PM
Raptor,
When your team wins a game, you are allowed to talk again.
When your team wins a game, you are allowed to talk again.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 03, 2009, 11:57:34 PM
Post by: Queens on February 03, 2009, 11:57:34 PM
d3hero,
you have made wrong predictions all year, finally you get one right and your bragging about it... Bard is miserable big deal, get over it
you have made wrong predictions all year, finally you get one right and your bragging about it... Bard is miserable big deal, get over it
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 04, 2009, 12:07:48 AM
Post by: Queens on February 04, 2009, 12:07:48 AM
On a more positive note...
Does anyone know when the regional rankings come out? Where do you think Farmingdale will be ranked? Any shot there the top team in the region?
Does anyone know when the regional rankings come out? Where do you think Farmingdale will be ranked? Any shot there the top team in the region?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 04, 2009, 08:59:44 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 04, 2009, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: d3hero on February 03, 2009, 11:39:37 PM
Raptor,
When your team wins a game, you are allowed to talk again.
actually, hes allowed to talk whenever he wants, if it werent for raptormania this board would be silent most times, he has kept it alive for a couple of years.
i think, honestly this is Farmingdale's conference to lose. That is my honest opinion. With that said it is plausible that St Joe's could go in there and knock them off in the playoffs.
With teams like MSV, Maritime, Westbury and Purchase breathing down your neck, an upset in the playioffs is not far off either.
As far as d3hero and his blind allegiance to Purchase I like it. Glad to see someone root for their team. A little exxagerrated most times but its still cool to see.
I think nowis the time we can start to predict the awards for the conference no?
Rookie of the year: Brookim - YU
Player of the year: I have a tough time with this one...however with Santana at 21points and 4+ asst per game i think he gets the nod.
Hon Mention: Billups, Ohri, Acree, Cooke, Campbell and Harrison from MSMC.
what do you guys think?
How about coach of the year? All Confernece team? Etc.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 04, 2009, 09:00:56 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 04, 2009, 09:00:56 AM
Oh, and congratulations goes out to Tim Dougherty for recording his 1000th point at Maritime. He did it against MSMC.
Congrats!
http://www.skylineconference.org/News/mbball/2009/1/28/dougherty_1000.asp?path=mbball
Congrats!
http://www.skylineconference.org/News/mbball/2009/1/28/dougherty_1000.asp?path=mbball
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 04, 2009, 01:45:51 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 04, 2009, 01:45:51 PM
"actually, hes allowed to talk whenever he wants, if it werent for raptormania this board would be silent most times, he has kept it alive for a couple of years."
Thanks for the support, Bklyn. Obviously, I can't contribute in an eloquent way like d3hero, between his prognostications for Purchase (didn't he say Purchase would conquer Russia? I can't remember) and making fun of injured teams-which I think is an outgrowth of his stellar work at PunchKittensintheFace.com. But I'll certainly try my best to keep up.
And congrats to Tim Dougherty! Joins Justin White as 1,000 point scorers in the Skyline this year. Anyone else close to the mark?
Thanks for the support, Bklyn. Obviously, I can't contribute in an eloquent way like d3hero, between his prognostications for Purchase (didn't he say Purchase would conquer Russia? I can't remember) and making fun of injured teams-which I think is an outgrowth of his stellar work at PunchKittensintheFace.com. But I'll certainly try my best to keep up.
And congrats to Tim Dougherty! Joins Justin White as 1,000 point scorers in the Skyline this year. Anyone else close to the mark?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 04, 2009, 03:31:36 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 04, 2009, 03:31:36 PM
Quote from: Queens on February 04, 2009, 12:07:48 AMThe regional rankings just came out. Here's the Atlantic Region (with the overall record followed by the in-region record):
On a more positive note...
Does anyone know when the regional rankings come out? Where do you think Farmingdale will be ranked? Any shot there the top team in the region?
1. Richard Stockton 19-2 (16-2)
2. Farmingdale 16-2 (16-2)
3. William Paterson 15-4 (15-4)
4. Baruch 17-4 (15-3)
5. Montclair State 15-5 (12-5)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on February 04, 2009, 07:35:46 PM
Post by: d3hero on February 04, 2009, 07:35:46 PM
Rookie of the Year would have been Randy Battle from MSV had he not left the team.
Does the ROY have to be a freshman? B/c Brookim is a sophomore and if that's the case, Billups will get ROY.
As for player of the year, i think it's totally depending on who wins it all. Farmingdale's got either Santana or Campbell, St. Joe's has Walsh or Acree, Purchase has Lewis or Billups...it really, in my opinion, matters on who wins it.
Coach of the year: Jeff Charney. I don't care how many transfers came in and how some people might say, "Anyone could coach that team and win". The fact is Purchase was never a real program(3 wins last year, one coming against Pratt) and this year, they're going to finish several games above .500. If that isn't Coach of the Year material, i don't know what is.
Does the ROY have to be a freshman? B/c Brookim is a sophomore and if that's the case, Billups will get ROY.
As for player of the year, i think it's totally depending on who wins it all. Farmingdale's got either Santana or Campbell, St. Joe's has Walsh or Acree, Purchase has Lewis or Billups...it really, in my opinion, matters on who wins it.
Coach of the year: Jeff Charney. I don't care how many transfers came in and how some people might say, "Anyone could coach that team and win". The fact is Purchase was never a real program(3 wins last year, one coming against Pratt) and this year, they're going to finish several games above .500. If that isn't Coach of the Year material, i don't know what is.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 04, 2009, 09:11:49 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 04, 2009, 09:11:49 PM
Both Lewis and Walsh are not listed among the statistical leaders in the Skyline because neither one of them has played in 75% of their team's games. Unless that stat changes, I doubt either one of them will be considered for POY honors.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: MMTPdthree on February 04, 2009, 09:17:18 PM
Post by: MMTPdthree on February 04, 2009, 09:17:18 PM
Quote from: BklynBasketball on February 04, 2009, 08:59:44 AMQuote from: d3hero on February 03, 2009, 11:39:37 PM
How about coach of the year? All Confernece team? Etc.
First Year Head Coach Brian Nigro from MSV. Mount was picked second to last in the pre-season polls, and are in sole posession of 3rd place. Looks like he brought in a few transfers, while dealing with the loss of a dominant freshman in Randy Battle. Who knows, maybe they can pull a few upsets in the playoffs....
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on February 04, 2009, 10:49:21 PM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on February 04, 2009, 10:49:21 PM
D3hero:
Do you ever talk about or give credit to anyone other than Purchase? Regardless of who they've brought in or what 7'5 kids they have sitting out this season, they are nothing more than a middle of the pack team. They have come nowhere near meeting the standards you set forth and haven't won a big game this season.
All that being said, Nigro of MSV is my choice for COY.
Do you ever talk about or give credit to anyone other than Purchase? Regardless of who they've brought in or what 7'5 kids they have sitting out this season, they are nothing more than a middle of the pack team. They have come nowhere near meeting the standards you set forth and haven't won a big game this season.
All that being said, Nigro of MSV is my choice for COY.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 05, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
Post by: Queens on February 05, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
Thanks Rhodes Scholar for posting the regional rankings..
Farmingdale has to be hurt by a extremely weak schedule, i mean its a disgrace. They have one good win all season and thats vs Baruch. Thats the only way to explain a team with 2 loses not receiving votes for the top 25. They need to start scheduling better non conference opponents because the skyline is shaping up as probably the worst conference around(not taking anything away from farmingdale because i think they have a really good team)
D3hero dont say purchase was a good win either, its pretty obvious you either went to purchase, currently play for purchase or have son on the team...
Farmingdale has to be hurt by a extremely weak schedule, i mean its a disgrace. They have one good win all season and thats vs Baruch. Thats the only way to explain a team with 2 loses not receiving votes for the top 25. They need to start scheduling better non conference opponents because the skyline is shaping up as probably the worst conference around(not taking anything away from farmingdale because i think they have a really good team)
D3hero dont say purchase was a good win either, its pretty obvious you either went to purchase, currently play for purchase or have son on the team...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on February 05, 2009, 10:41:36 AM
Post by: d3hero on February 05, 2009, 10:41:36 AM
i actually go to Mount St. Mary so eat it.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 06, 2009, 01:01:40 AM
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 06, 2009, 01:01:40 AM
Quote from: d3hero on February 05, 2009, 10:41:36 AM
i actually go to Mount St. Mary so eat it.
Eat it? Seriously? That's your comeback?
Spare us the false identity crap. Nobody is fooled. They don't even need me to look up the IP address to tell everyone where you're posting from.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on February 06, 2009, 02:33:23 AM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on February 06, 2009, 02:33:23 AM
D3Hero:
Let me stop you right there. Its been enough of all your insane statements on the board, your word holds no credence.
As Pat says, you're classy response of "eat it" was amazing.
You say you attend Mt. St. Mary, now before I address that nonsense, let me humor all the others who will read this board.
D3hero, our good friend. I've looked over your wide range of posts since you joined the board. Since your inception to our family, you have made many crazy statements; including but not limited to:
1. "Skyline will be a 3 team race. Farmingdale, Old Westbury and Purchase"
^ Interesting. What place is purchase in?
2. "I guarantee the new kid from Greece (talking about a Hunter College player) will be absolutely nasty."
^ the player to which he was referring has played 0 quality minutes this year.
3. "This is one of the worst teams Baruch has had in a longgggg time".
^ Baruch is ranked 4th in the region and closing in on 20 wins.
4. " I coached against Forrest Alvarez in highschool".
^ Interesting. As Alvarez played in manhattan in highschool and you claim to be attending MSM, that had to be one hectic commute.
5. "St Joes is the best team in the region"
^ St. Joe's is not even ranked top 5 in the region.
6. "Justin Walters will avg 5 steals per game"
^ one of the most ludicrous statements ever spoken.
7. ".. I went to and played for Hartwick, I should know"
^ you are certainly well traveled. From Hartwick, to Manhattan, to Mt. St. Mary's and still find time to make it to all of Purchase's games.
D3Hero: you are a clown.
Point.
Blank.
Period.
Let me stop you right there. Its been enough of all your insane statements on the board, your word holds no credence.
As Pat says, you're classy response of "eat it" was amazing.
You say you attend Mt. St. Mary, now before I address that nonsense, let me humor all the others who will read this board.
D3hero, our good friend. I've looked over your wide range of posts since you joined the board. Since your inception to our family, you have made many crazy statements; including but not limited to:
1. "Skyline will be a 3 team race. Farmingdale, Old Westbury and Purchase"
^ Interesting. What place is purchase in?
2. "I guarantee the new kid from Greece (talking about a Hunter College player) will be absolutely nasty."
^ the player to which he was referring has played 0 quality minutes this year.
3. "This is one of the worst teams Baruch has had in a longgggg time".
^ Baruch is ranked 4th in the region and closing in on 20 wins.
4. " I coached against Forrest Alvarez in highschool".
^ Interesting. As Alvarez played in manhattan in highschool and you claim to be attending MSM, that had to be one hectic commute.
5. "St Joes is the best team in the region"
^ St. Joe's is not even ranked top 5 in the region.
6. "Justin Walters will avg 5 steals per game"
^ one of the most ludicrous statements ever spoken.
7. ".. I went to and played for Hartwick, I should know"
^ you are certainly well traveled. From Hartwick, to Manhattan, to Mt. St. Mary's and still find time to make it to all of Purchase's games.
D3Hero: you are a clown.
Point.
Blank.
Period.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3hero on February 06, 2009, 03:04:42 AM
Post by: d3hero on February 06, 2009, 03:04:42 AM
1. considering that purchase was a 3 win team last year, they've made ridiculous improvements.
2. the greeks usually produce better ball players. what can i say?
3. Baruch's coach is amazing and gets the best from his players.
4. Of course I don't attend MSM. Who wants to be in Newburgh, anyway? As for for the guy from Bard, he certainly wasn't a game changer.
5. St. Joe's, oh well. Walsh wasn't as dominant as one would think he could be.
6. If he got more minutes, sure he would. 2.9 Steals per 25 minutes. Not saying one would play the entire game, but if he did, that's about 4.2 steals per.
Let me also add that all these opinions and statements are my clown personality self and in no way represent anything other than an online message board persona created by me.
7. I'm def. a clown. I'm a professional clown.
2. the greeks usually produce better ball players. what can i say?
3. Baruch's coach is amazing and gets the best from his players.
4. Of course I don't attend MSM. Who wants to be in Newburgh, anyway? As for for the guy from Bard, he certainly wasn't a game changer.
5. St. Joe's, oh well. Walsh wasn't as dominant as one would think he could be.
6. If he got more minutes, sure he would. 2.9 Steals per 25 minutes. Not saying one would play the entire game, but if he did, that's about 4.2 steals per.
Let me also add that all these opinions and statements are my clown personality self and in no way represent anything other than an online message board persona created by me.
7. I'm def. a clown. I'm a professional clown.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 06, 2009, 11:27:46 AM
Post by: Queens on February 06, 2009, 11:27:46 AM
Great Work BubbaChuck, simply great stuff...
I remember some of those "infamous quotes" they made me chuckle at the time because they were ridiculous and now that time has passed they are even more ridiculous. His rebuttals dont even make sense.
"greeks usually produce better basketball players" Whatt??? ???
The coach at baruch is good but good enough for 4th in the region? Baruchs record is 18-4. How many wins do you give the coach credit for?
St Joes best team in the region? Wake me up when they beat beat some who is half way decent...( at least you admitted you were wrong on this one, which you didnt on any of the other?)
Lastly, How long have you been in College for? I'd love to get some box scores from your playing days, if you ever played....
Until next time i will continue to "eat it"
I remember some of those "infamous quotes" they made me chuckle at the time because they were ridiculous and now that time has passed they are even more ridiculous. His rebuttals dont even make sense.
"greeks usually produce better basketball players" Whatt??? ???
The coach at baruch is good but good enough for 4th in the region? Baruchs record is 18-4. How many wins do you give the coach credit for?
St Joes best team in the region? Wake me up when they beat beat some who is half way decent...( at least you admitted you were wrong on this one, which you didnt on any of the other?)
Lastly, How long have you been in College for? I'd love to get some box scores from your playing days, if you ever played....
Until next time i will continue to "eat it"
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on February 07, 2009, 12:22:45 PM
Post by: skylinestar on February 07, 2009, 12:22:45 PM
I saw st joes play vincents the other night and it was not competitive from the start. they had nobody to match up with walsh down low as he cruised for 21 first half points and sat for almost the entire second half. Im interested to see the st joes farmingdale game on thursday the 12th, farmingdale is cruising and so are the eagles. On another side note to d3 hero, looks like you were wrong again, when walsh has played this year st joes is undefeated.....so is he really not dominant?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ball1003 on February 08, 2009, 12:48:05 PM
Post by: ball1003 on February 08, 2009, 12:48:05 PM
d3hero... were you able to catch the st joes vs. purchase game yesterday? If you weren't... can you do me a favor? Ask Billups how his face is?? Walsh dunked it on his head and ended up giving him stitches. It should have been the ESPN play of the night lol For the second time this year your boy lewis was outplayed by a freshman on st joes. Purchase must of gotten dunked on at least 5 times.... try again next year buddy. St. Joes has now beaten msv and purchase by 40 and 30 this week....and farmingdale continues to roll as well. Thursday night should be a great one...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 11, 2009, 02:08:09 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 11, 2009, 02:08:09 PM
tough out of conference loss last night for Maritime, the 4th place skyline Privateers lost to St Joe's Bklyn 77-76. This is a great resume builder for St Joes who is in provisional membership with the NCAA and has been discussed as a possible Skyline team in the future. For Maritime though 12-8 and in 4th place in the conference, this is a game that has to shake your confidence. Additionally, this is a team that I saw Brooklyn College blow out (sJC BKLYN). That demonstrates how the top teams in the 2 respective conferences are really head and shoulders above the field(cuny and skyline).
Looking forward there are some big games tomorrow. I would like to go catch the Farmingdale vs SJC LI game but i dont think its possible tomorrow for me. That should be one of the best games in the region all year. Mike Campbell is really coming on and now showing everyone he is living up to the hype he had pre season. My personal opinion is that Farmingdale wins the game somewhere in the range of 8-12 point margin of victory.
Maritime goes BACK to brooklyn this time to face Poly who just smashed MSV over the weekend. With Robinson, DeMarco and Mottola contributing to help Ohri, this could be a tough one for maritime.
Westbury goes to purchase...this is a game with serious playoff seeding implications. another really important one here because 3-6 are all within a game or 2 of each other. jockeying for home court is a big deal.
Yeshiva traveling to MSV to see if the 3rd place MSV can get it back on track. seems like the wheels fell off a little the last 2 games but this is the same team who rattled off 4 in a row previous to the 2 game skid.
Bard and MSMC just dont wanna lose to each other. Neither has more to play for than pride, although thats the most important thing to play for.
good luck to everyone.
Looking forward there are some big games tomorrow. I would like to go catch the Farmingdale vs SJC LI game but i dont think its possible tomorrow for me. That should be one of the best games in the region all year. Mike Campbell is really coming on and now showing everyone he is living up to the hype he had pre season. My personal opinion is that Farmingdale wins the game somewhere in the range of 8-12 point margin of victory.
Maritime goes BACK to brooklyn this time to face Poly who just smashed MSV over the weekend. With Robinson, DeMarco and Mottola contributing to help Ohri, this could be a tough one for maritime.
Westbury goes to purchase...this is a game with serious playoff seeding implications. another really important one here because 3-6 are all within a game or 2 of each other. jockeying for home court is a big deal.
Yeshiva traveling to MSV to see if the 3rd place MSV can get it back on track. seems like the wheels fell off a little the last 2 games but this is the same team who rattled off 4 in a row previous to the 2 game skid.
Bard and MSMC just dont wanna lose to each other. Neither has more to play for than pride, although thats the most important thing to play for.
good luck to everyone.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 13, 2009, 08:36:11 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 13, 2009, 08:36:11 AM
farmingdale beats sjc LI last night. JJ Walsh finished with 5 points. Five.
Maritime rebiounds to beat Poly.
Purchase over Westbury and MSV downed by Yeshiva.
Parity in this league from 3-8 is crazy.
Maritime rebiounds to beat Poly.
Purchase over Westbury and MSV downed by Yeshiva.
Parity in this league from 3-8 is crazy.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ball1003 on February 13, 2009, 02:57:46 PM
Post by: ball1003 on February 13, 2009, 02:57:46 PM
walsh fouled out of the game if you look at the boxscore brooklyn.... where did everybody go? Did they realize that farmingdale and st. joes were too good for everybody else???/
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 13, 2009, 04:29:37 PM
Post by: Queens on February 13, 2009, 04:29:37 PM
Farmingdale is too good for everybody else, please do not put St Joes in the same class as farmingdale...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on February 13, 2009, 08:53:17 PM
Post by: skylinestar on February 13, 2009, 08:53:17 PM
I agree with you queens, right now you cant put st joes in the same category as farmingdale only because they have yet to prove themselves and beat them, but they are so much better than they other teams in the conference its not even funny.
what happened to old westbury being picked to finish second? Mt St Vincent is a joke, has no inside presence and cant compete with any of the upper tier teams...purchase is extremely overrated, maritime is a tough out but cant compete with st joes or fdale....
Expect to see joes and farmingdale in the finals, and i wouldnt bank on walsh scoring only 5 points, so dont be surprised if st joes wins the conference.
what happened to old westbury being picked to finish second? Mt St Vincent is a joke, has no inside presence and cant compete with any of the upper tier teams...purchase is extremely overrated, maritime is a tough out but cant compete with st joes or fdale....
Expect to see joes and farmingdale in the finals, and i wouldnt bank on walsh scoring only 5 points, so dont be surprised if st joes wins the conference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on February 13, 2009, 08:54:32 PM
Post by: skylinestar on February 13, 2009, 08:54:32 PM
Also is it really true that billups had to leave the game against st joes to get stitches after walsh dunked on him??
i would like to see some footage of that!
i would like to see some footage of that!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ball1003 on February 14, 2009, 10:32:42 AM
Post by: ball1003 on February 14, 2009, 10:32:42 AM
yes skylinestar that is correct... footage would be nice
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: HoopzFanatic on February 17, 2009, 12:56:18 PM
Post by: HoopzFanatic on February 17, 2009, 12:56:18 PM
why is it that farmingdale state doesn't get any national recognition. I see they have won 17 games in a row and havn't lost a game since dec. 6th. With teams like montclair state and william patterson getting some consideration in the other votes category in the top 25 you just got to wonder because they are both ranked lower than farmingdale in the region. I believe farmingdale might have even beat montclair this season. But congrats to farmingdale on a great season i have watched them a couple times and think they can be a real tournament sleeper.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mid-range j on February 17, 2009, 03:28:58 PM
Post by: mid-range j on February 17, 2009, 03:28:58 PM
farmingdale is going to take the conference, i would be surprised if st joes beat them because they havent proved they can win in the big games in the last 5-6 years maybe even longer
farmingdale is just too strong for the skyline and if they want to get national recognition they should move out of the skyline...they are just way to good year after year..no offense to the teams like polytech, bard, purchase, mt st vincent, maritime, but they are just not good and never really are, these are easy 20+ point blowouts for farmingdale..
stevens, mville, and kings point shipped out and now its time for farmingdale to head out too..
farmingdale is just too strong for the skyline and if they want to get national recognition they should move out of the skyline...they are just way to good year after year..no offense to the teams like polytech, bard, purchase, mt st vincent, maritime, but they are just not good and never really are, these are easy 20+ point blowouts for farmingdale..
stevens, mville, and kings point shipped out and now its time for farmingdale to head out too..
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2009, 07:39:17 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on February 17, 2009, 07:39:17 PM
Quote from: HoopzFanatic on February 17, 2009, 12:56:18 PMI believe the reason that Farmingdale isn't getting any votes in the Top 25 is because of their weak schedule. They have four good wins all year: Montclair State, Baruch, and St. Joe's (twice). They have two bad losses: Ramapo and SUNY-Martitime. All their other wins are against average to horrible competition. I'm not knocking Farmingdale--they are a solid team and may very well be the second best team in the Atlantic. But even so, that does not necessarily translate into a Top 25 team because the Atlantic region is one of the weakest in the country.
why is it that farmingdale state doesn't get any national recognition. I see they have won 17 games in a row and havn't lost a game since dec. 6th. With teams like montclair state and william patterson getting some consideration in the other votes category in the top 25 you just got to wonder because they are both ranked lower than farmingdale in the region. I believe farmingdale might have even beat montclair this season. But congrats to farmingdale on a great season i have watched them a couple times and think they can be a real tournament sleeper.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2009, 09:26:46 AM
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2009, 09:26:46 AM
And what is four wins for Rhodes Scholar is one win in the eyes of many voters, perhaps zero in the eyes of others.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: HoopzFanatic on February 18, 2009, 11:41:52 AM
Post by: HoopzFanatic on February 18, 2009, 11:41:52 AM
I can see where your coming from pat and rhodes, but if thats the case what quality wins do montclair and william pat have that make them more qualified than farmingdale?........Also if the atlantic is that weak why is richard stockton ranked so highly, why wouldn't they be hurt by the region. I dont think the NJAC is as strong as its been the last couple years.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on February 18, 2009, 12:04:41 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on February 18, 2009, 12:04:41 PM
The NJAC is still the strongest conference in the region by far. Even the below .500 teams will beat most of the CUNY and Skyline teams most nights. Stockton had a nice showing in the NCAA's last year and returned most of the team and have picked up right where they left off.
I can also be pretty sure that most coaches and teams would not want to face Willy P in the post-season, they are always ready to play and will play that smothering D against anyone with no fear.
I can also be pretty sure that most coaches and teams would not want to face Willy P in the post-season, they are always ready to play and will play that smothering D against anyone with no fear.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2009, 12:35:07 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2009, 12:35:07 PM
Quote from: HoopzFanatic on February 18, 2009, 11:41:52 AM
I can see where your coming from pat and rhodes, but if thats the case what quality wins do montclair and william pat have that make them more qualified than farmingdale?
Playing 12 games against the NJAC means a lot more than playing 16 games against the Skyline.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: HoopzFanatic on February 18, 2009, 12:54:54 PM
Post by: HoopzFanatic on February 18, 2009, 12:54:54 PM
Thats why i thought a a head to head win against montclair would mean more in a addition to the skyline wins. But anyway all of these teams are having great years hopefully we will see them all in the ncaa tourney......I think the atlantic region is much under rated and the top teams in the region can go out and compete with any one in the country
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2009, 01:28:16 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2009, 01:28:16 PM
At some point games in mid-November take on a lot less importance compared to 'what have you done lately.'
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Henri Papillon Charriere on February 18, 2009, 01:56:42 PM
Post by: Henri Papillon Charriere on February 18, 2009, 01:56:42 PM
As a Farmingdale fan, I have wanted them to move to another conference for quite some time now. Only then will they recieve some national attention. On a side note, my Rams were not in action last night, so I took a drive over to see MSV play CSI. The game was up and down, but MSV hung on to win. Cooke put on an impressive performance scoring 29 points including 7 three pointers. Dimaggio chipped in with 20 points and 8 helpers. If MSV stays hot they could upset a team in the first round. Looking forward to tonight as the Rams host Purchase.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2009, 02:34:47 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2009, 02:34:47 PM
The problem for Farmingdale is that there are no longer teams like Stevens and Manhattanville in the league to raise the overall level of competition.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on February 18, 2009, 02:51:43 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on February 18, 2009, 02:51:43 PM
As a school Farmingdale would fit in the NJAC but the NJAC is already at 10 teams for basketball and even trips to NJCU and Kean could be close to 2 hours each way because of traffic. Unfortunately they are in a bad location for any conference but CUNY and even that would be some bad road trips.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 18, 2009, 07:05:50 PM
Post by: Queens on February 18, 2009, 07:05:50 PM
If Farmingdale wants any respect nationally ( which they deserve) they need to change conferences... Stevens did it and they have some rough road trips but thats the price you pay to expand your program. Farmingdale in the NJAC would be interesting...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 19, 2009, 10:31:05 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 19, 2009, 10:31:05 AM
Pretty clearly, the Skyline is down this season. But it might be too quick to dismiss the conference as ever able to support a program like Farmingdale. I'm interested to see if the programs within the conference grow- remember, in program-building terms, a bunch of these teams are very, very new to competitive college basketball.
It stands to reason that newly DIII-blessed Bard, Purchase, Poly would have some growing pains, and given that they were replacing some of the top Skyline teams, that there would be a transition. But it isn't clear to me that they are inherently lesser programs in terms of potential than those that departed-and they seem to be a better fit, especially geographically.
It stands to reason that newly DIII-blessed Bard, Purchase, Poly would have some growing pains, and given that they were replacing some of the top Skyline teams, that there would be a transition. But it isn't clear to me that they are inherently lesser programs in terms of potential than those that departed-and they seem to be a better fit, especially geographically.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mid-range j on February 19, 2009, 02:03:57 PM
Post by: mid-range j on February 19, 2009, 02:03:57 PM
Poly, Bard, and Purchase are new to d3? or are they new to the conference? im pretty sure they have been in d3 for a while now...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 19, 2009, 02:16:04 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 19, 2009, 02:16:04 PM
Purchase is new to D-III.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mid-range j on February 19, 2009, 03:39:45 PM
Post by: mid-range j on February 19, 2009, 03:39:45 PM
Thanks Pat, didnt know that...
Regardless, they have been in college basketball for ahwile now and I feel thats no excuse to why they are so bad...
Regardless, they have been in college basketball for ahwile now and I feel thats no excuse to why they are so bad...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on February 19, 2009, 04:44:14 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on February 19, 2009, 04:44:14 PM
Farmingdale was pretty bad for a few years when they first moved to D3. It takes a few years to go from a JC program to a competitive 4 year program.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 19, 2009, 11:56:23 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 19, 2009, 11:56:23 PM
I obviously haven't been up in a little while and for good reason, not much to talk about at 0-24. But I just want to say my boy Justin White broke an old Bard bums record of 45 points in a single game by putting up a 46 spot on Rivier tonight. In a season full of big time lows JWhite has been one of the few bright spots. He had an atrocious stretch of 6 games in which he was dealing with some personal stuff but you throw those out and hes around 25 ppg. Congrats to the best PG in the Skyline hands down. You put this kid on Farmingdale or St Joes and they would be scary good!! Kid has worked harder than any player in the Skyline to improve his game the last 3 years and it shows, he came in as a PG with quickness and talent but no head on his shoulders and he has matured into a guard that can do whatever you need him to do. He showed last year if you put scorers around him he will lead the conf in assists, this year he has showed the ability to carry an entire teams scoring load on his back. Obviously if you are winless you aren't gonna get much pub but as the Wesleyan coach said the other night, "Justin is better than any point guard in the NESCAC." Couldn't happen to a better kid either!
Last game of the year Sunday, LETS GET THAT WIN!!!! Good luck to St Joes or Farmingdale in the NCAAs, represent us well and maybe even win a couple to shut some of those clowns up who say the Atlantic is dead. What happened to the mighty Final 4 Purchase team BTW??
Last game of the year Sunday, LETS GET THAT WIN!!!! Good luck to St Joes or Farmingdale in the NCAAs, represent us well and maybe even win a couple to shut some of those clowns up who say the Atlantic is dead. What happened to the mighty Final 4 Purchase team BTW??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ball1003 on February 21, 2009, 10:54:59 AM
Post by: ball1003 on February 21, 2009, 10:54:59 AM
Raptor......your boy Justin White wouldn't play on St. Joes or Farmingdale. He wouldn't play over Santana or Skyline Rookie of the Year Chris Jiminez. Did you catch the Bard vs. St. Joes game where Jiminez held White to an 0-15 shooting night.....did I mention the game was played at Bard. Come on.... who shoots 0-15 at home....not the best pg in the league. i got news for you buddy.... the pgs for Mt St Vincent, Maritime and Purchase are all better than him too. Hes a decent player on a bad team. He would only start on like 3 teams in the league. Get real man.... and start recruiting up there
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 22, 2009, 11:53:35 AM
Post by: raptor31 on February 22, 2009, 11:53:35 AM
Thats a lot of hatred for such a little man ball. You obviously don't know basketball or players! All good though, let me explain something, Bard is a terrible team with a PG that would start on almost any division 3 team in the country. I see a lot of basketball at all levels and this kid can flat out play. Wow, he had one bad game against St. Joe's! As I already explained he had a lot of personal **** going on for that bad stretch, you go 0-24 and see if you can drop 30 a game every game. Been a rough season for the Raptors for a number of reasons and this kid just keeps doing his thing! You are obviously a hater who cant give a kid his due, you are telling me hed start for 3 skyline teams?? Really?? And you are telling me hes not better than that freshman PG on St Joes who has 3 All Conference guys around him?? You are telling me you wouldn't like to see JW in the backcourt with Santana creating shots for him?? Not only are you wrong but you just aren't smart. Keep drinking it and he will just keep giving it to you. Another failed D3 player who loves to hate on a kid that is playing hard game in and game out and is a little bit tougher than youve ever BEEN!!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 22, 2009, 11:55:36 AM
Post by: raptor31 on February 22, 2009, 11:55:36 AM
Oh yeah, we do recruit "up there," sorry if a 2.3 GPA and 800 SAT doesn't get us in and our whole team isn't made up of kids who can't write 3 sentences!! Sick life Skyline JUCO transfers and 29 year old homeless guys who show up on rosters, way to be. Not our fault we are an academic institute that is stuck in a conf of bad SUNY schools and low standard privates. You know what youre talking about though.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ball1003 on February 22, 2009, 12:26:56 PM
Post by: ball1003 on February 22, 2009, 12:26:56 PM
I would get your facts straight before you open your mouth Raptor.... don't put SUNY schools in the same category as the others. I don't know about the requirements for Westbury or Farmingdale, but you need an 80 and a 1000 to get into St. Joes and they don't have dorms either. It's all about recruiting buddy.... if you're jealous of what the other teams have why don't you help out and get kids.... go get yourself a 29 year old.... you might just win a game. YOU ARE 0-24!!!!!!! You really can't say a word guy... I've seen some high school teams this year that would beat Bard
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on February 22, 2009, 12:35:13 PM
Post by: skylinestar on February 22, 2009, 12:35:13 PM
the reg season officially comes to an end today with a meaningless game between bard and yeshiva......can bard stop the skid at 24? With that being said though i would like to talk some playoff basketball....any predictions on the maritime mt st vincents game and the westbury vs purchase game?....I got maritime by 15 and old westbury by 5 at home, prosper can be a real difference maker for them in the playoffs
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mid-range j on February 22, 2009, 03:21:49 PM
Post by: mid-range j on February 22, 2009, 03:21:49 PM
mt st vincent, martime, and purchase are all in the playoffs, wow what is the world coming too?
jus kidding, thats really a great thing..maybe there programs are starting to turn around, props to the coaches.. but after seeing a lot of skyline games the past couple of years that is pretty funny..
jus kidding, thats really a great thing..maybe there programs are starting to turn around, props to the coaches.. but after seeing a lot of skyline games the past couple of years that is pretty funny..
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 22, 2009, 08:08:10 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 22, 2009, 08:08:10 PM
Well, I would steer clear of criticizing the other teams in the Skyline. But Bard, Poly and Purchase were playing in an unrecognized conference, the HVMAC, just a few years ago. (Bard only got its first win in THAT conference 5-6 years ago!) So I think it is worth giving them some adjustment time before writing them off.
And apparently, so does Yeshiva:
Bard 75, Yeshiva 70
And apparently, so does Yeshiva:
Bard 75, Yeshiva 70
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 22, 2009, 09:03:23 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 22, 2009, 09:03:23 PM
Before we get a 29 year old we will keep our stud PG. Another standard day for J Dubs! No big deal though! Just an easy 39 and 7 steals to lead the Raptors to that first win! Took all season but they finally did it. I mean have the best player in the conference will eventually help you. I mean the kid who could only start for 3 teams in the skyline avg 34 pts 8 reb and 3 steals for his last week. That probably not good enough to start for most division III schools though. Great job to all the guys for stepping up and playing a big game today. It was meaningless in the grand scheme but to be 0-24 and put it all out there for pride is tough to do and these kids went all out for 40 minutes. Maccabi Assasin Yonah Greenstein hit the game winning 3 off a J White assist with under a minute left. He wrapped the game up by hitting the sealing 2 FTs too!! Big game for the kid against a team that didn't really recruit him out of the Yeshiva league. Adam Shear has been playing great basketball and scored 14 on 4 3s for another great game. Expect 15 ppg from him next year and this kid will work to add more to his game than just a 3 pt shot.
I didn't mean any disrespect but it is tough when your academic standards are above your comp it is tough to recruit in the same class. Obviously, you need better players to win but when people who are ignorant to the situation rip on the school and a kid who played his ass off all year in a bad situation I am going to take it a little personal. I mean let's be serious, 23 ppg at any level means you can play. The crazy thing is this kid isn't a pure scorer but in the role he has shot close to 40% from 3, 50% from the field and scored about 30 ppg in the final 7 games since they made a couple changes and got J off the ball a little more. They played Farmingdale at home to a tough game that ended up being an 8 pt loss and played great basketball for what they have on the court over that final stretch.
What I am saying is that there is no coach in the Skyline who wouldn't take him as their starting PG. On his HS city runner up team he was a playmaker and in his first two years at Bard he was used primarily setting up his teammates. Only because of the lack of supporting scorers and impact players has he been forced to take on that role. If you talk to this kid he would rather have 4 guys around him and just distribute the ball and in this role is where he truly thrives. We will see who is brought in and what the progress of the guys on the team is. There are a lot of nice pieces in place to be role players they just need a couple more bodies, the return and improvement of Alvarez-Ringer, and hopefully another great year from the BEST GUARD IN THE SKYLINE HANDS DOWN!!! LETS GOOOO!!!
Good luck to hopefully St. Joes and Farmingdale in the tourney, two great teams with some potential to make a little noise if given the right matchup.
I didn't mean any disrespect but it is tough when your academic standards are above your comp it is tough to recruit in the same class. Obviously, you need better players to win but when people who are ignorant to the situation rip on the school and a kid who played his ass off all year in a bad situation I am going to take it a little personal. I mean let's be serious, 23 ppg at any level means you can play. The crazy thing is this kid isn't a pure scorer but in the role he has shot close to 40% from 3, 50% from the field and scored about 30 ppg in the final 7 games since they made a couple changes and got J off the ball a little more. They played Farmingdale at home to a tough game that ended up being an 8 pt loss and played great basketball for what they have on the court over that final stretch.
What I am saying is that there is no coach in the Skyline who wouldn't take him as their starting PG. On his HS city runner up team he was a playmaker and in his first two years at Bard he was used primarily setting up his teammates. Only because of the lack of supporting scorers and impact players has he been forced to take on that role. If you talk to this kid he would rather have 4 guys around him and just distribute the ball and in this role is where he truly thrives. We will see who is brought in and what the progress of the guys on the team is. There are a lot of nice pieces in place to be role players they just need a couple more bodies, the return and improvement of Alvarez-Ringer, and hopefully another great year from the BEST GUARD IN THE SKYLINE HANDS DOWN!!! LETS GOOOO!!!
Good luck to hopefully St. Joes and Farmingdale in the tourney, two great teams with some potential to make a little noise if given the right matchup.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 22, 2009, 10:52:23 PM
Post by: Queens on February 22, 2009, 10:52:23 PM
Is this post serious? Did you really just 4 paragraphs about a 0-24 team? If anyone is interested im going to write a 3 page game recap of the Medgar Evers VS Pratt game ( probably the worst game in the history of division 3, on paper at least)...
It playoff time raptor get your head in the game kid!
It playoff time raptor get your head in the game kid!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 22, 2009, 11:13:29 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 22, 2009, 11:13:29 PM
No, he wrote about one of the finest players in the Skyline Conference, who just posted 46 and 39 on back-to-back games, shooting 55% and turning the ball over just twice while playing all 40 minutes against teams that keyed their defenses on him.
If you don't think this is worth writing about, then I feel sorry for you.
If you don't think this is worth writing about, then I feel sorry for you.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 22, 2009, 11:29:19 PM
Post by: Queens on February 22, 2009, 11:29:19 PM
Raptor and Raportmania is this the same person? Only people in the world that care about 0-24 team... its impressive dont get me wrong but lets keep things in perspective he played Yeshiva. Yes Yeshiva, put any of the starting 5 from farmingdale on Bard let them play against the vaunted Yeshiva defense, let them take 24 shots, and have the rock every time down the court the same thing will happen...I've seen Yeshiva play, lets be serious Raptor(s) the team is miserable. Kids a very good player but hes playing for one of the worst teams in the country, playing in meaningless games with no consquences.
Two teams ranked in the top 5 in the region and were talking BARD BASKETBALL!!! Thats like going into a Big east message board and start talking about a guy on south florida dropping 38 on St Francis College...
Two teams ranked in the top 5 in the region and were talking BARD BASKETBALL!!! Thats like going into a Big east message board and start talking about a guy on south florida dropping 38 on St Francis College...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 12:27:28 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 12:27:28 AM
We'll agree to disagree. White averaged 34 points in four games this week, put up 46 in the second game playing back-to-back nights, shot 55 percent with defenses keying on him, and in today's game didn't commit a single turnover.
I think any serious student of basketball knows when you are facing double and triple teams, it is harder to score. White not only scored, he did it efficiently.
I think any serious student of basketball knows when you are facing double and triple teams, it is harder to score. White not only scored, he did it efficiently.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2009, 01:03:25 AM
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2009, 01:03:25 AM
Quote from: Queens on February 22, 2009, 11:29:19 PM
Two teams ranked in the top 5 in the region and were talking BARD BASKETBALL!!!
So why are you talking Bard basketball instead of talking about what you want to talk about? Change the subject instead of whining.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 23, 2009, 08:48:52 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 23, 2009, 08:48:52 AM
while i dont believe he is the best pg in the skyline, or the best guard in the sjyline i DO have to commend the young man for playing his tail off even though as Queens said there was little to no motivation. White is a very good player and deserves accolades.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 11:15:22 AM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 11:15:22 AM
Pat,
It is a tribute to the extent Bard basketball defines the conversation that even those who don't wish to are magnetically drawn to this proud program set to rise again next season. It's not his fault.
It is a tribute to the extent Bard basketball defines the conversation that even those who don't wish to are magnetically drawn to this proud program set to rise again next season. It's not his fault.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 23, 2009, 11:17:08 AM
Post by: Queens on February 23, 2009, 11:17:08 AM
Damien Santana on Farmingdale just became all time leading scorer in school history last week, on a team that wins 20+ games every season and makes the NCAA tournament year after year...Now thats impressive
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 12:19:42 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 12:19:42 PM
Damien Santana on Farmingdale just became all time leading scorer in school history last week, on a team that wins 20+ games every season and makes the NCAA tournament year after year...Now thats impressive Now that's also impressive
Fixed. Not looking to run down Santana- how about you give some credit to White? Or is it too hard to recognize 34 points per game, tremendous shooting and continued effort in the face of an adversity-laden season?
Fixed. Not looking to run down Santana- how about you give some credit to White? Or is it too hard to recognize 34 points per game, tremendous shooting and continued effort in the face of an adversity-laden season?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2009, 01:41:08 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2009, 01:41:08 PM
Raptormania -- we got it, you like White. He and Bard don't have to be injected into every topic. All in favor of Bard basketball being talked about but let's not go overboard.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: 123456 on February 23, 2009, 01:44:34 PM
Post by: 123456 on February 23, 2009, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 12:19:42 PM
Damien Santana on Farmingdale just became all time leading scorer in school history last week, on a team that wins 20+ games every season and makes the NCAA tournament year after year...Now thats impressiveNow that's also impressive
Fixed. Not looking to run down Santana- how about you give some credit to White? Or is it too hard to recognize 34 points per game, tremendous shooting and continued effort in the face of an adversity-laden season?
Only my second post, but I feel the need to ask you where you get your stats on Justin White?? Last I checked he averaged 22.3 points per game (http://www.skylineconference.org/Sports/stats/mbb/0809/HTML/BC.HTM#team.ind (http://www.skylineconference.org/Sports/stats/mbb/0809/HTML/BC.HTM#team.ind))....then i look at his assist to turnover ratio and it's 79-114.....his shooting % doesnt even get him in the top 10 in the conference..i will give you the fact that he shoots a pretty good % from 3 (40.6) but thats honestly it.
ANYWAY, more important than BARD COLLEGE is the fact that the tournament is starting up tomorrow. #5 Purchase goes to #4 OW...the two teams split the regular season games with both teams winning on their homecourt. In the other game, #6 MSV goes to #3 Maritime...MSV beat the Privateers twice this season, including a 20 point win in the Bronx. Both games should be rpetty exciting, any calls on who comes out ahead??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 01:46:41 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 01:46:41 PM
"Raptormania -- we got it, you like White. He and Bard don't have to be injected into every topic. All in favor of Bard basketball being talked about but let's not go overboard."
I assume this is a joke, Pat- just defending Justin White's accomplishments against those running him down in this thread.
But notice that even in your note urging people to talk about something other than Bard basketball, you mentioned "Bard" twice, "White once", and "Raptormania" as well. Bard basketball and D3Hoops are inextricably linked!
I assume this is a joke, Pat- just defending Justin White's accomplishments against those running him down in this thread.
But notice that even in your note urging people to talk about something other than Bard basketball, you mentioned "Bard" twice, "White once", and "Raptormania" as well. Bard basketball and D3Hoops are inextricably linked!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 01:48:28 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 01:48:28 PM
Only my second post, but I feel the need to ask you where you get your stats on Justin White??
No problem- sorry for the confusion. The numbers refer to [HE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED]'s final week, during [PROGRAM THAT CASTS ENORMOUS SHADOW OVER ALL OF DIVISION III COLLEGE BASKETBALL]'s final four games.
No problem- sorry for the confusion. The numbers refer to [HE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED]'s final week, during [PROGRAM THAT CASTS ENORMOUS SHADOW OVER ALL OF DIVISION III COLLEGE BASKETBALL]'s final four games.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mid-range j on February 23, 2009, 02:25:44 PM
Post by: mid-range j on February 23, 2009, 02:25:44 PM
this is some funny stuff tho, i think everyone fails to realize that raptormania is just trying to get under peoples skin on the message boards...and hes doing a pretty good job..i mean its prob because hes trying to back up the worst team in college basketball on any level but hey least he has some pride and loyalty for his college..
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 02:51:49 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 02:51:49 PM
Well done, mid-range- though you did use raptormania, it is correctly spelled Raptormania!.
I will take issue with your statement- even the Massey Ratings, which carry a well-known bias against liberal arts schools, had Bard ahead of ME Presque Isle-and that was PRIOR to the win over Yeshiva.
Just happy to see a team that went through so much and worked so hard get a tangible reward.
I will take issue with your statement- even the Massey Ratings, which carry a well-known bias against liberal arts schools, had Bard ahead of ME Presque Isle-and that was PRIOR to the win over Yeshiva.
Just happy to see a team that went through so much and worked so hard get a tangible reward.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mid-range j on February 23, 2009, 03:14:03 PM
Post by: mid-range j on February 23, 2009, 03:14:03 PM
hahahaha this is comical! you are too much Raptormania!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on February 23, 2009, 03:30:40 PM
Post by: skylinestar on February 23, 2009, 03:30:40 PM
Listen up, bard hasn't been respectable as a mens basketball program since....well ever. But they did have a decent run a couple years back with star quality players Adam Turner and Drew McCormack. I believe Turner is the schools all time leading scorer, correct me if im wrong? But justin white is highly overrated, playing with kids who look as if they should be on a chess team rather than a college basketball squad.....
Lets get to real powerhouse program talk here, I think St joes is gonna win the conference tournament saturday night in farmingdale's own gym..should be a great game.
Lets get to real powerhouse program talk here, I think St joes is gonna win the conference tournament saturday night in farmingdale's own gym..should be a great game.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
Adam Turner won't soon be forgotten. But do keep in mind that last season, Bard challenged for a Skyline playoff spot in its first season with the conference. What you say is partially true- Bard doesn't have a basketball tradition- the team is making history with every step forward. But I've seen plenty of teams that lose a ton to injury, and the star gets keyed on defensively. Generally, that leads to more turnovers and low shooting percentage. But not with Justin White.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 04:27:56 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 04:27:56 PM
Don't know if this is inappropriate for a Skyline Conference thread, but here's a link to the Skyline's Player of the Week.
http://skylineconference.org/News/mbball/2009/2/23/skyline_winter0809_report13.asp?path=mbball
http://skylineconference.org/News/mbball/2009/2/23/skyline_winter0809_report13.asp?path=mbball
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: OxyBob on February 23, 2009, 04:57:34 PM
Post by: OxyBob on February 23, 2009, 04:57:34 PM
Quote from: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 01:46:41 PM
just defending Justin White's accomplishments against those running him down in this thread.
I only got to see Justin White play once, but he was indeed impressive against Caltech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2723039). White scored 6 points on 2-for-9 shooting, all while being single-covered, and the 7 shots he missed were oh so very close to going in the basket, so there was at least potential for a perfect 9-for-9 night. White was also 2-for-2 shooting FTs, which is 100% (and you can't get better than that!), and he led the Raptors with 6 turnovers, which means he was handling the ball an awful lot even while losing it. Most importantly, White was a part of history, as Caltech won 81-52 and ended its 207-game, 11-year D-III losing streak. Thanks for the memories, Justin!
OxyBob
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 05:58:51 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 05:58:51 PM
Well, if a player struggles in a single game early in his development, I guess we know all we need to about him.
You stay classy, OxyBob. It must feel good to publicly rip a student-athlete when he succeeds.
You stay classy, OxyBob. It must feel good to publicly rip a student-athlete when he succeeds.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on February 23, 2009, 06:30:39 PM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on February 23, 2009, 06:30:39 PM
Raptormania!, to be objective, you can't call anyone out on being "classy".
Someone makes a post about Damien Santana becoming the all time scorer in Farmingdale history and you have the audacity to not only strike out his writing and change it to "now that's always impressive", but then continue to plead for people to give attention to Justin White.
You single handedly are the reason people here don't want to acknowledge many of White's accomplishments, because you cannot have an objective conversation, but rather must make everything the Bard special. Try every now and then to stop being so single focused and talk outside your comfort zone.
Is Justin White a talented player? Yes.
Do we all know how much you love Justin White? Yes.
Have you made us all sick and tired of hearing about Justin White? Yes.
There, he's gotten the publicity you wanted. His name has been mentioned. Now, can the focus please shift to the conference tournament teams. Thanks.
Someone makes a post about Damien Santana becoming the all time scorer in Farmingdale history and you have the audacity to not only strike out his writing and change it to "now that's always impressive", but then continue to plead for people to give attention to Justin White.
You single handedly are the reason people here don't want to acknowledge many of White's accomplishments, because you cannot have an objective conversation, but rather must make everything the Bard special. Try every now and then to stop being so single focused and talk outside your comfort zone.
Is Justin White a talented player? Yes.
Do we all know how much you love Justin White? Yes.
Have you made us all sick and tired of hearing about Justin White? Yes.
There, he's gotten the publicity you wanted. His name has been mentioned. Now, can the focus please shift to the conference tournament teams. Thanks.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 08:21:27 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 08:21:27 PM
A lot to talk about here... wow!! I go away 24 hrs and we get 16 posts on Justin White. Shows the kid is doing something right. First of all if you guys are so sick of it just don't reply to the post about the kid or Bard!! No big deal, just don't reply. Secondly, Cyclone, Raptormania! wasn't ripping Damien Santana, he was simply saying that the comment should have been "now that's also impressive." He wasn't and never does put down other great players in the conference. The problem is you come on a board and give your opinion and people start disrespecting a kid. It's no problem to disagree and state your opinion but completely unnecessary to rip a kids accomplishments. If I say I think JWhite is the best guard feel free to disagree (you are wrong but that is alright) but don't trash a kid who is playing his ass off.
Secondly, if we didn't talk about Bard Basketball on here I am pretty sure this thread would be at about 25 pages instead of 47. Point blank, not many people in the skyline care about their teams enough to get on this board and post consistently, the fact that a few people who have been involved with the Bard program for the last decade get on and write when there is something to write about says a lot about the atmosphere that has been growing the past 10 years. This is an open board to discuss anything and since no one seems to want to talk about the playoffs says something about the Skyline as a whole.
If you don't care about hearing more about Bard Bball stop reading now! Something most of you don't know is 10 years ago this team was not NCAA recognized and against a schedule that didn't include many NCAA opponents went 0-25 with an average margin of defeat of 48 ppg. That is where we come from and it is a hideous past. The schools athletic budget is close to nothing, the facilities are just alright, and the support of athletics from the administration is close to non existent. The past 10 years have seen a lot of growth in students that care about sports and athletes that want more and yet the support hasn't come from the powers that be. We have become NCAA recognized, a part of a conference with an automatic bid and while going 1-24 this year is rough it is with a young team and against a caliber of opponent the school has never played.
There is definitely a lot of work to do but Coach Wood has done a tremendous job recruiting (there is no give to the 1400 and 3.5 GPA requirements for admissions) considering the schools he goes up against in recruiting battles, i.e. Williams, Amherst, Ithaca, Vassar, Skidmore, etc. etc. All these schools have bigger budgets, better facilities, athletic tradition, and obviously this makes it a tough task to recruit against them. It is nice to come on here and say START RECRUITING but it is a little tougher to actually go do that. Not to be an elitist and I have nothing against the schools in the conference but Bard in the Skyline with no give in the admissions process is like Princeton trying to compete year in and year out in the NEC or MAAC. It is tough to go out and get the same caliber athlete and player when the pool of players you have to get is limited by grades and most of those kids aren't going to like a liberal arts school like Bard over a place like Amherst.
We represent our school to the fullest and even when we are down (like right now) we will continue to care because that is the type of program Coach Wood has built, one where people involved care about the players that have come before and after. As bad as the record has been something has to be said about the fact that the two most loyal fans on this thread are the two Raptor faithful. Check out raptormania.com for a great fan site that goes back with almost 10 years worth of material!! I know at least 10 people just hit your site right there Raptormania!
Congratulation to all the Skyline teams this year, it was a competitive year all around and I hope the playoffs are the same. Obviously, we will see a St. Joes-Farmingdale final and it should be a great one! Watch out for Chris Niblock as the X Factor in that title game!
Secondly, if we didn't talk about Bard Basketball on here I am pretty sure this thread would be at about 25 pages instead of 47. Point blank, not many people in the skyline care about their teams enough to get on this board and post consistently, the fact that a few people who have been involved with the Bard program for the last decade get on and write when there is something to write about says a lot about the atmosphere that has been growing the past 10 years. This is an open board to discuss anything and since no one seems to want to talk about the playoffs says something about the Skyline as a whole.
If you don't care about hearing more about Bard Bball stop reading now! Something most of you don't know is 10 years ago this team was not NCAA recognized and against a schedule that didn't include many NCAA opponents went 0-25 with an average margin of defeat of 48 ppg. That is where we come from and it is a hideous past. The schools athletic budget is close to nothing, the facilities are just alright, and the support of athletics from the administration is close to non existent. The past 10 years have seen a lot of growth in students that care about sports and athletes that want more and yet the support hasn't come from the powers that be. We have become NCAA recognized, a part of a conference with an automatic bid and while going 1-24 this year is rough it is with a young team and against a caliber of opponent the school has never played.
There is definitely a lot of work to do but Coach Wood has done a tremendous job recruiting (there is no give to the 1400 and 3.5 GPA requirements for admissions) considering the schools he goes up against in recruiting battles, i.e. Williams, Amherst, Ithaca, Vassar, Skidmore, etc. etc. All these schools have bigger budgets, better facilities, athletic tradition, and obviously this makes it a tough task to recruit against them. It is nice to come on here and say START RECRUITING but it is a little tougher to actually go do that. Not to be an elitist and I have nothing against the schools in the conference but Bard in the Skyline with no give in the admissions process is like Princeton trying to compete year in and year out in the NEC or MAAC. It is tough to go out and get the same caliber athlete and player when the pool of players you have to get is limited by grades and most of those kids aren't going to like a liberal arts school like Bard over a place like Amherst.
We represent our school to the fullest and even when we are down (like right now) we will continue to care because that is the type of program Coach Wood has built, one where people involved care about the players that have come before and after. As bad as the record has been something has to be said about the fact that the two most loyal fans on this thread are the two Raptor faithful. Check out raptormania.com for a great fan site that goes back with almost 10 years worth of material!! I know at least 10 people just hit your site right there Raptormania!
Congratulation to all the Skyline teams this year, it was a competitive year all around and I hope the playoffs are the same. Obviously, we will see a St. Joes-Farmingdale final and it should be a great one! Watch out for Chris Niblock as the X Factor in that title game!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 08:23:16 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 08:23:16 PM
On a side note, I got a chance to check out the kid Carlos Valdez (per Justin White's request) on Mt St Mary on the online game watching system we have through Bard (can relive all 24 losses and that one win online) and he is tough!! Kid has legit size and skill. Hopefully he will develop like almost all Mt St Mary players do!! The program has fallen back a step but
Coach Davis continually does a great job developing players and getting his kids to play hard. Recent examples are Mike Hoyt and Chris Harrison (who I coached against as a freshman and didn't see how he would ever become an impact guy but he has). The guy knows his stuff and inspires kids to get better. Look forward to seeing how good this kid becomes.
Coach Davis continually does a great job developing players and getting his kids to play hard. Recent examples are Mike Hoyt and Chris Harrison (who I coached against as a freshman and didn't see how he would ever become an impact guy but he has). The guy knows his stuff and inspires kids to get better. Look forward to seeing how good this kid becomes.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 08:34:43 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 08:34:43 PM
And it is really easy guys... if you want the conversation to shift to the conf playoff teams then TALK ABOUT THEM!!! This isn't a place where only one conversation at a time can go on. The problem is there aren't many people from those schools that really care enough to get online and talk about them. Go to another conf site and you have multiple posters from every school talking constantly about everything. Just doesn't happen here. I would love to get into a conversation about who is the best big in this conference but every time something like that comes up it just kind of dies. Mike Campbells gotta get that by the way right or are we not classifying him as a true "big." Didn't see anyone all year dominate the way he did against Bard. Just did whatever he wanted when he wanted. Very crafty around the basket and just had the ability to bully whoever he wanted.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 08:51:48 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 08:51:48 PM
Someone makes a post about Damien Santana becoming the all time scorer in Farmingdale history and you have the audacity to not only strike out his writing and change it to "now that's always impressive", but then continue to plead for people to give attention to Justin White.
Sad that you have the ability to cut and paste, and you still misquote me. Our friend Queens had just finished calling Bard "miserable" and was comparing Santana to White, making the implicit point that Santana was impressive, White was not. Rather than run down Santana- because why would anyone do that?- I simply responded and pointed out that what he did was "also" impressive.
I can't help but find it amusing that you are upset over my talking about a remarkable week a Skyline Conference player had on a Skyline Conference board during a week he was named... Skyline Conference Player of the Week.
If you disagree that White is worthy of praise, so be it. I don't claim to be objective- but I certainly don't think the objective numbers undermine my case.
And as for talk about other teams- who is stopping you? Is the presence of Justin White some kind of mute button on your computer? Seriously- I'm pretty sure I can't force you to stop talking about your team and rip a student-athlete who just completed a remarkable week. And I'm certainly going to respond when people are unfairly critical of him.
Sad that you have the ability to cut and paste, and you still misquote me. Our friend Queens had just finished calling Bard "miserable" and was comparing Santana to White, making the implicit point that Santana was impressive, White was not. Rather than run down Santana- because why would anyone do that?- I simply responded and pointed out that what he did was "also" impressive.
I can't help but find it amusing that you are upset over my talking about a remarkable week a Skyline Conference player had on a Skyline Conference board during a week he was named... Skyline Conference Player of the Week.
If you disagree that White is worthy of praise, so be it. I don't claim to be objective- but I certainly don't think the objective numbers undermine my case.
And as for talk about other teams- who is stopping you? Is the presence of Justin White some kind of mute button on your computer? Seriously- I'm pretty sure I can't force you to stop talking about your team and rip a student-athlete who just completed a remarkable week. And I'm certainly going to respond when people are unfairly critical of him.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: OxyBob on February 23, 2009, 09:00:58 PM
Post by: OxyBob on February 23, 2009, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: Cyclone0205 on February 23, 2009, 06:30:39 PM
Raptormania!, to be objective, you can't call anyone out on being "classy".
Oh, don't worry, I know that Raptomania! means no harm, and I am sorry if I tread on his or Justin White's tender Bard sensibilities. Thing is, I am a big fan of the Skyline Conference. Not only did Bard help Caltech make history by snapping CIT's 207-game losing streak to D-III teams, but just this season Polytechnic came to California and lost to Caltech, snapping the Beavers' 30-game losing streak back to last season when they defeated Gallaudet. One of these days Caltech will finally win a conference game (they've lost 286 straight stretching back to 1985), but until then I appreciate the opportunity to look at Caltech's schedule and anticipate a rare CIT win courtesy of the Skyline Conference.
OxyBob
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on February 23, 2009, 09:24:04 PM
Post by: skylinestar on February 23, 2009, 09:24:04 PM
congratulations oxybob, u beat 2 of the worst teams to ever play college basketball, u would lose by 40 if u played st joes or farmingdale
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bball12 on February 23, 2009, 09:30:29 PM
Post by: bball12 on February 23, 2009, 09:30:29 PM
I was just browsing the boards and was reading the post on the skyline.
"There is definitely a lot of work to do but Coach Wood has done a tremendous job recruiting (there is no give to the 1400 and 3.5 GPA requirements for admissions) considering the schools he goes up against in recruiting battles, i.e. Williams, Amherst, Ithaca, Vassar, Skidmore, etc. etc. All these schools have bigger budgets, better facilities, athletic tradition, and obviously this makes it a tough task to recruit against them. It is nice to come on here and say START RECRUITING but it is a little tougher to actually go do that. Not to be an elitist and I have nothing against the schools in the conference but Bard in the Skyline with no give in the admissions process is like Princeton trying to compete year in and year out in the NEC or MAAC. It is tough to go out and get the same caliber athlete and player when the pool of players you have to get is limited by grades and most of those kids aren't going to like a liberal arts school like Bard over a place like Amherst."
You need to join a different league or stop complaining about requirements. This is the league Bard decided to join. It was your choice. Also i think it is funny putting those schools in the same paragraph as Bard. It will be a long time,if ever, before Bard starts winning the recruiting battles with those schools. Nothing against Coach Wood because i have no clue about the actual players on the team but he has a long way to go.
"There is definitely a lot of work to do but Coach Wood has done a tremendous job recruiting (there is no give to the 1400 and 3.5 GPA requirements for admissions) considering the schools he goes up against in recruiting battles, i.e. Williams, Amherst, Ithaca, Vassar, Skidmore, etc. etc. All these schools have bigger budgets, better facilities, athletic tradition, and obviously this makes it a tough task to recruit against them. It is nice to come on here and say START RECRUITING but it is a little tougher to actually go do that. Not to be an elitist and I have nothing against the schools in the conference but Bard in the Skyline with no give in the admissions process is like Princeton trying to compete year in and year out in the NEC or MAAC. It is tough to go out and get the same caliber athlete and player when the pool of players you have to get is limited by grades and most of those kids aren't going to like a liberal arts school like Bard over a place like Amherst."
You need to join a different league or stop complaining about requirements. This is the league Bard decided to join. It was your choice. Also i think it is funny putting those schools in the same paragraph as Bard. It will be a long time,if ever, before Bard starts winning the recruiting battles with those schools. Nothing against Coach Wood because i have no clue about the actual players on the team but he has a long way to go.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on February 23, 2009, 10:08:06 PM
Post by: skylinestar on February 23, 2009, 10:08:06 PM
raptor...the argument for best big in the conference starts and ends with JJ Walsh....campbell is good, but not as good as walsh, walsh can do everything and is prob the best finisher in the conference...and keep forrest alvarez out of this debate
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 10:33:51 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 23, 2009, 10:33:51 PM
You need to join a different league or stop complaining about requirements. This is the league Bard decided to join.
For what it's worth, I think this is a great point, and complaining about Bard's academic requirements obscures the large leaps forward Bard has made despite this. In 2007-2008, Bard was in the playoff hunt in its first Skyline campaign, finishing 8-17, 5-13. Remember- this was a program that in 2000-2001, finished 1-19-playing in the Hudson Valley Men's Athletic Conference, and non-conference foes like Cooper Union and Webb Institute.
But Bard has done remarkably well in Skyline athletics across the board. Only time will tell, of course, but I believe this season will be the aberration, not last season.
For what it's worth, I think this is a great point, and complaining about Bard's academic requirements obscures the large leaps forward Bard has made despite this. In 2007-2008, Bard was in the playoff hunt in its first Skyline campaign, finishing 8-17, 5-13. Remember- this was a program that in 2000-2001, finished 1-19-playing in the Hudson Valley Men's Athletic Conference, and non-conference foes like Cooper Union and Webb Institute.
But Bard has done remarkably well in Skyline athletics across the board. Only time will tell, of course, but I believe this season will be the aberration, not last season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 11:19:37 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 11:19:37 PM
In terms of my points about the academic requirements I was only responding to a post in the last few days regarding how Bard needs to "start recruiting." For now Bard is in a transition phase trying to find a league that fits the school best. We have been in 3 leagues in 5 years and could be moving again soon. I am by no means saying we didn't choose to be here or say that is the only factor in a 1-24 season. I was simply saying it is tough to kill the recruiting situation when there are things out of the control of the coaching staff and athletic department. I don't know if you read what I said but I completely agree with your statement about Bard not being in the class of those schools. That was actually a part of my point as to why it is tough for Bard to recruit when the kids they are recruiting are choosing between those great academic (and athletic) schools and Bard.
OxyBob, you don't see much Division III basketball on the east coast obviously. I was on the bench for that loss to Cal Tech and I was utterly shocked by how good Cal Tech was. The Cal Tech team I saw had 2 guards that could play, 2 bigs with size and moves and two other solid players. They did have the 5 token little asian guys on the end of the bench but coming into that game I think we all thought that would be the make up of the team. Cal Tech was one of the top 5 teams we played that year. Well coached group that played together and I think on the east coast (in some of the bad D3 leagues, which there are many) the team I saw would get between 8-15 wins every year depending on which league they were in. West Coast and Mid West D3 basketball is typically stronger because there are less teams so the talent is not watered down the way it is amongst the lower level d3s on the east coast. There also aren't as many d2 schools out that way so you get a lot of kids that could play higher level on the east coast that stay closer to home in Wisc, Iowa, Washington, Cali, etc. Great Bball out there. My Junior year we played UC Santa Cruz (they came into the game 3-10) and got blown away!
They would have been an solid team in a lot of east coast leagues. If you remember the year before Bard lost to CIT, Rivier had to hit a buzzer beater to win at Cal Tech. That was the same Rivier team that a year later (with no changes to roster) won their league and went to the NCAA tournament. Take the point for what it is worth but Cal Tech is better than advertised and wouldn't lose to St. Joes or Farmingdale by 40!! Bard only lost to Farmingdale by 13 with a 6 man roster and missing 2 starters and I don't know how Bard does this year against CalTech but I bet it wouldn't be much better than Poly did.
Skylinestar, I will keep Forrest out but can I throw Chris Niblock in?? Former 1,000 pt scorer for the BBP Phantoms?? Maybe you have heard of him? Boxed Jason Frazier out of bounds until he took off Niblocks headband and threw it into the crowd?? Well I am going to put him in the talk.
Still no playoff talk? Maybe that is because the people who talk on here are two Raptor fans, Skyline players, and casual fans who don't watch skyline games!
OxyBob, you don't see much Division III basketball on the east coast obviously. I was on the bench for that loss to Cal Tech and I was utterly shocked by how good Cal Tech was. The Cal Tech team I saw had 2 guards that could play, 2 bigs with size and moves and two other solid players. They did have the 5 token little asian guys on the end of the bench but coming into that game I think we all thought that would be the make up of the team. Cal Tech was one of the top 5 teams we played that year. Well coached group that played together and I think on the east coast (in some of the bad D3 leagues, which there are many) the team I saw would get between 8-15 wins every year depending on which league they were in. West Coast and Mid West D3 basketball is typically stronger because there are less teams so the talent is not watered down the way it is amongst the lower level d3s on the east coast. There also aren't as many d2 schools out that way so you get a lot of kids that could play higher level on the east coast that stay closer to home in Wisc, Iowa, Washington, Cali, etc. Great Bball out there. My Junior year we played UC Santa Cruz (they came into the game 3-10) and got blown away!
They would have been an solid team in a lot of east coast leagues. If you remember the year before Bard lost to CIT, Rivier had to hit a buzzer beater to win at Cal Tech. That was the same Rivier team that a year later (with no changes to roster) won their league and went to the NCAA tournament. Take the point for what it is worth but Cal Tech is better than advertised and wouldn't lose to St. Joes or Farmingdale by 40!! Bard only lost to Farmingdale by 13 with a 6 man roster and missing 2 starters and I don't know how Bard does this year against CalTech but I bet it wouldn't be much better than Poly did.
Skylinestar, I will keep Forrest out but can I throw Chris Niblock in?? Former 1,000 pt scorer for the BBP Phantoms?? Maybe you have heard of him? Boxed Jason Frazier out of bounds until he took off Niblocks headband and threw it into the crowd?? Well I am going to put him in the talk.
Still no playoff talk? Maybe that is because the people who talk on here are two Raptor fans, Skyline players, and casual fans who don't watch skyline games!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Henri Papillon Charriere on February 23, 2009, 11:22:18 PM
Post by: Henri Papillon Charriere on February 23, 2009, 11:22:18 PM
Bard basketball has had a tough year to say the least, but the two times I saw them play the coaching staff and the players conducted themselves with class. They could have easily turned on each other, but I saw them put forth a valiant effort, despite losing almost every game.
Moving on, the playoffs should be interesting this year. Here are my predictions: The Purchase at Old Westbury game will be a close game with Old Westbury coming out on top. I think the homecourt advantage and Lester Prosper inside will end a nice run for Purchase this year (Remember: only 3 wins last year for Purchase, not a bad turn around). The rumble in the Bronx between Maritime and MSV will be another close one. I got a chance to see MSV three times this year and they put up a good fight against my Rams last Saturday where Joe Cooke (28pts) and Nick Dimaggio (24pts) were lights out once again. However, Mike Campbell (31pts) was too much inside for them. If MSV stays hot and does not get completely dominated on the boards, I can see them traveling to Long Island on Thursday night where they will ultimately meet their demise against a very talented St. Joe's team. Old Westbury will fall to Farmingdale on Thursday night as well, setting up a great game for Saturday.
Saturday's championship game between St. Joes and my Rams will be an instant classic. Although St Joe's is very good, my bias prediction is that Damien Santana and the Rams will be cutting down the nets once again and making a return trip to the NCAA tournament.
Moving on, the playoffs should be interesting this year. Here are my predictions: The Purchase at Old Westbury game will be a close game with Old Westbury coming out on top. I think the homecourt advantage and Lester Prosper inside will end a nice run for Purchase this year (Remember: only 3 wins last year for Purchase, not a bad turn around). The rumble in the Bronx between Maritime and MSV will be another close one. I got a chance to see MSV three times this year and they put up a good fight against my Rams last Saturday where Joe Cooke (28pts) and Nick Dimaggio (24pts) were lights out once again. However, Mike Campbell (31pts) was too much inside for them. If MSV stays hot and does not get completely dominated on the boards, I can see them traveling to Long Island on Thursday night where they will ultimately meet their demise against a very talented St. Joe's team. Old Westbury will fall to Farmingdale on Thursday night as well, setting up a great game for Saturday.
Saturday's championship game between St. Joes and my Rams will be an instant classic. Although St Joe's is very good, my bias prediction is that Damien Santana and the Rams will be cutting down the nets once again and making a return trip to the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 11:22:46 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 11:22:46 PM
Keep hating Skyline coaches and players who keep posting!! At least our coaching staff and players don't have get on here and hate on everyone in the conference just because they didn't have a good season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 11:29:11 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 11:29:11 PM
Couldn't agree more Henri! Will be a Farmingdale-St. Joe's final. Beating a great team like St. Joe's three times in a season is a tough task to do and I will be interested to see if Farmingdale can do this. More interesting question is if St. Joe's wins does Farmingdale get an at large?? Pat Coleman, any comments??
Conference Player of the Year has to be Campbell, 20 and 9 for the conference champs and was the guy who provided toughness game in and game out. Without him this isn't as unstoppable of a team!
Conference Player of the Year has to be Campbell, 20 and 9 for the conference champs and was the guy who provided toughness game in and game out. Without him this isn't as unstoppable of a team!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: HoopzFanatic on February 23, 2009, 11:43:59 PM
Post by: HoopzFanatic on February 23, 2009, 11:43:59 PM
The best big in the conference is by no way a clear cut giveaway to JJ walsh......I have seen both farmingdale and st joes this year and i think campbell is a better player personally......Walsh is a great player but in the head to head match up walsh only put up 5 and 5......in his defense Farmingdale does have the best overall team defense in the conference and in my opinion the best defender in the conference with shannon, but i still think that campbell is tougher for defenses to cover and a better overall player
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 23, 2009, 11:59:49 PM
Post by: Queens on February 23, 2009, 11:59:49 PM
I'm happy to say i started this whole debate, i wish the boards were all like this! Very entertaining stuff, funny and its stayed for the most part respectful...
Most activity this board has seen all year, just in time for the playoffs...
St Joes VS Farm will be a good game, cant see farmingdale losing though....Too many weapons, hopefully farmingdale can make some noise in the NCAAS this year...
Most activity this board has seen all year, just in time for the playoffs...
St Joes VS Farm will be a good game, cant see farmingdale losing though....Too many weapons, hopefully farmingdale can make some noise in the NCAAS this year...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 01:21:19 AM
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 01:21:19 AM
At least the assistant coaches have stopped trashing on other teams in the conference. Thats going to really help you get your next job ball!
If any team can pull an upset who is it? I am going to say MSV just because of their style. If they catch you on a bad shooting night and they keep running that D'Antoni stuff at you it can be a long night. They would need a monster night from everyone and they would have to get out early and often to frustrate their opponent. Any body else got thoughts?
If any team can pull an upset who is it? I am going to say MSV just because of their style. If they catch you on a bad shooting night and they keep running that D'Antoni stuff at you it can be a long night. They would need a monster night from everyone and they would have to get out early and often to frustrate their opponent. Any body else got thoughts?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 01:24:08 AM
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 01:24:08 AM
By the way ball, I've seen multiple high school teams this year that would win the skyline so that comment doesn't always work. Although I watch 4 of the top teams in the country night in and night out so it might be an unfair statement. Anybody else seen St. Pats or St. Bens this year. Im going to say they both with the Skyline with relative ease.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylineman on February 24, 2009, 02:06:05 AM
Post by: skylineman on February 24, 2009, 02:06:05 AM
How does everyone fail to mention the skyline scoring leader Marvin Billups? Leading the turn around season for the panthers wasn't easy and he definitely had a "player of the year" caliber season. His name has to be at least up in the running.
GP-GS Min/G FG% 3PT% FT% R/G A/G STL BLK PTS/G
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Billups, Marvin..... 25-24 33.3 .516 .242 .765 5.9 1.9 55 5 23.1
GP-GS Min/G FG% 3PT% FT% R/G A/G STL BLK PTS/G
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Billups, Marvin..... 25-24 33.3 .516 .242 .765 5.9 1.9 55 5 23.1
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on February 24, 2009, 10:22:29 AM
Post by: skylinestar on February 24, 2009, 10:22:29 AM
I wouldnt use the head to head match up completely as the decision maker of who wis better walsh or campbell....wlash played in foul trouble the whole game and fouled out towards the end of the game. I wouldnt be so quick to crown farmingdale just yet though, st joes is a great team, and beating one team 3 times in a year is extremely tough to do!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on February 24, 2009, 10:59:37 AM
Post by: Knightstalker on February 24, 2009, 10:59:37 AM
If St. Joes wins the conference tournament, Farmingdale will be one of the top Atlantic teams in the Pool C discussion. This also depends on who wins the Cuny and NJAC.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 24, 2009, 11:35:49 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 24, 2009, 11:35:49 AM
in the discussion of Bard...lets lay off the guys, raptormania and the likes are the only REGULAR posters on here, while i do think its obvious they overstate bard's prowess, i think they do this in jest and i enjoy it.
Bard fields competitive teams, this has been a bad year for them, as for Poly, both teams had NUMEROUS injuries to key players, im not saying either team is a powerhouse but both are certainly better than their records, and yes ive seen them both play this year. Bard is not a terrible team neither is Poly. I epect both teams to improve next year and be in the playoff hunt for the 5th , 6th spots.
Bard having higher academic standards? Not really a valid arguement in my opinion, the league has SUNY schools in it which have very low tuition and their academic standards are (not LOW0 lower than the avg of the league. Then you have middle tier school like MSMC and MSV where its more expensive and more academically difficult to get in. Next you have Bard and Poly which are EXTREMELY competitive academically and VERY expensive. Theyre still in theleague. The difference btwn Bard and MSMC is the same as the difference btwn MSMc and Suny Farmingdale. No? The skyline isnt an even playing field financially or academically, but who cares? the ball is round in every game, the hoops is 10 feet. Play ball you know?
As far as the best BIG in the league, Walsh doesnt enter thAt discussion for me, hes a wing player. Prosper should be, he has the physical tools, however I dont know whats up, he has the ability to produce higher numbers than he is. In my opinion its hands down Campbell, although he has the skills to play the wing like walsh, but he is just an animal down low. I dont think anyone in the league can contain him. period. Niblock is also a workhorse, he is seen as a bit of a dirty player, but he works his tail off and usually outworks his opponent gotta respect that.
player of the year is campbell in my opinion, with honors to Walsh, Billups, Santana, Cooke and Acree.
Tonights games are going to be highly competitive, MSV beat the Privateers twice this year, yet theyre still the underdogs. Should be good game, neither team matches up well with the other teams strength, so whoever executes THEIR game should win.
Purchase Westbury is a VERY even matchup and could be the best game of the tourney, save the finals which should be a WAR btwn the Rams and Eagles.
Bard fields competitive teams, this has been a bad year for them, as for Poly, both teams had NUMEROUS injuries to key players, im not saying either team is a powerhouse but both are certainly better than their records, and yes ive seen them both play this year. Bard is not a terrible team neither is Poly. I epect both teams to improve next year and be in the playoff hunt for the 5th , 6th spots.
Bard having higher academic standards? Not really a valid arguement in my opinion, the league has SUNY schools in it which have very low tuition and their academic standards are (not LOW0 lower than the avg of the league. Then you have middle tier school like MSMC and MSV where its more expensive and more academically difficult to get in. Next you have Bard and Poly which are EXTREMELY competitive academically and VERY expensive. Theyre still in theleague. The difference btwn Bard and MSMC is the same as the difference btwn MSMc and Suny Farmingdale. No? The skyline isnt an even playing field financially or academically, but who cares? the ball is round in every game, the hoops is 10 feet. Play ball you know?
As far as the best BIG in the league, Walsh doesnt enter thAt discussion for me, hes a wing player. Prosper should be, he has the physical tools, however I dont know whats up, he has the ability to produce higher numbers than he is. In my opinion its hands down Campbell, although he has the skills to play the wing like walsh, but he is just an animal down low. I dont think anyone in the league can contain him. period. Niblock is also a workhorse, he is seen as a bit of a dirty player, but he works his tail off and usually outworks his opponent gotta respect that.
player of the year is campbell in my opinion, with honors to Walsh, Billups, Santana, Cooke and Acree.
Tonights games are going to be highly competitive, MSV beat the Privateers twice this year, yet theyre still the underdogs. Should be good game, neither team matches up well with the other teams strength, so whoever executes THEIR game should win.
Purchase Westbury is a VERY even matchup and could be the best game of the tourney, save the finals which should be a WAR btwn the Rams and Eagles.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 24, 2009, 11:59:01 AM
Post by: Queens on February 24, 2009, 11:59:01 AM
St Pats and St Benedicts would most likely win every d3 conference in the country, there starting 5s feature guys who will we all be watching on ESPN regulary and who possibly could be playing in the NBA. Thats not much of a knock on the skyline by saying that. I seen St Benedicts lose to Mater Dai ( I dont know if i spelled that right) actually they got killed. Mater Dai featured two twin bothers at 6'10 both committed to UNC. So saying that a highschool team would win a d3 college conference is not much of a knock on the conference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 24, 2009, 12:05:14 PM
Post by: Queens on February 24, 2009, 12:05:14 PM
Brooklyn,
Great points on the tutition and the academics on each school, i didnt even realize that was the case in the skyline. Skyline has to be the only conference in the country that has such a disparity in price of schools. Thats a huge factor if not more than academic standards of each school. I would think more people can get into Bard and Poly then can actually afford to pay 40 thousand a year, am i right?
Great points on the tutition and the academics on each school, i didnt even realize that was the case in the skyline. Skyline has to be the only conference in the country that has such a disparity in price of schools. Thats a huge factor if not more than academic standards of each school. I would think more people can get into Bard and Poly then can actually afford to pay 40 thousand a year, am i right?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 12:07:48 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 12:07:48 PM
Billups is in the discussion. What are the all conf teams? I got them like this.
First Team
Campbell - Farmingdale
Santana - Farmingdale
JJ Walsh - St. Joe's
Billups - Purchase
Justin White - Bard
Second Team
Nick DiMaggio - MSV
David Acree - St. Joe's
Lester Prosper - Old Westbury
Arjun Ohri - Polytechnic
Jerrell Lewis - Purchase
Third Team
Chris Harrison - MSM
Joe Cooke - MSV
Andre Cooper - Maritime
Martin Leibovich - Yeshiva
Shane DeNully - Old Westbury
Obviously there will now be 25 posts about how JWhite is not first team but I think he and Billups stats speak for themselves. This is an individual accomplishment not a team accomplishment. Both of these kids had tremendous years that I think outshine the kids from the better teams. Ohri I put on 2nd team simply because he didn't do as much all around as the other 2. Acree, while still having a great year didn't score as much and his % are lower than last year. The other 3 first teamers are no brainers. DiMaggio 2nd team over Cooke (3rd team) because he did a little more assist wise and I think he ran that team well. Prosper 2nd because of his impact on the game and he had nice numbers (14ppg 10rpg 2 blocks). Jerrell Lewis didn't have as great of a year as advertised to start but still was 2nd team worthy. 3rd team you could argue a couple guys but I think Cooper deserves to be there because he had a nice year and Maritime finished surprisingly high. Leibovich is deserving and the one you could prolly argue on would be DeNully but I think his assist numbers (especially ass/to) put him on the team. Probably no better PG in terms of running his team and getting the ball to the right people than DeNully.
First Team
Campbell - Farmingdale
Santana - Farmingdale
JJ Walsh - St. Joe's
Billups - Purchase
Justin White - Bard
Second Team
Nick DiMaggio - MSV
David Acree - St. Joe's
Lester Prosper - Old Westbury
Arjun Ohri - Polytechnic
Jerrell Lewis - Purchase
Third Team
Chris Harrison - MSM
Joe Cooke - MSV
Andre Cooper - Maritime
Martin Leibovich - Yeshiva
Shane DeNully - Old Westbury
Obviously there will now be 25 posts about how JWhite is not first team but I think he and Billups stats speak for themselves. This is an individual accomplishment not a team accomplishment. Both of these kids had tremendous years that I think outshine the kids from the better teams. Ohri I put on 2nd team simply because he didn't do as much all around as the other 2. Acree, while still having a great year didn't score as much and his % are lower than last year. The other 3 first teamers are no brainers. DiMaggio 2nd team over Cooke (3rd team) because he did a little more assist wise and I think he ran that team well. Prosper 2nd because of his impact on the game and he had nice numbers (14ppg 10rpg 2 blocks). Jerrell Lewis didn't have as great of a year as advertised to start but still was 2nd team worthy. 3rd team you could argue a couple guys but I think Cooper deserves to be there because he had a nice year and Maritime finished surprisingly high. Leibovich is deserving and the one you could prolly argue on would be DeNully but I think his assist numbers (especially ass/to) put him on the team. Probably no better PG in terms of running his team and getting the ball to the right people than DeNully.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
Once again valid points on the academics and I agree at the end of the day you have to play ball but you also can't rip a school for "not recruiting" when you are an assistant coach at a school that has requirements of 80 avg and 1000 SAT, ya know? The disparity is what it is and the Skyline is a weird league in that way. It will be tough for Bard and Poly to compete and recruit the same class kids overall as a Farmingdale, OW, or St. Joe's. No problem and I have never brought that up until people starting ripping Coach Wood for not recruiting when they don't really understand the full situation.
Bard is actually around 55 G's a year now which is crazy to think about and the point that more kids get into the school and can't afford it is a HUGE one!! Every year there are impact players who's first choice is Bard, they get in academically and then at the end of the day either don't get enough aid or can't afford the price put in front of them. All of this is a moot point because it is the hand dealt and what we have to work around. Given all of this and the past I am proud of where Bard is now and where we are going!
Obviously, Pats and Bens would win the Skyline, I was just responding to a point that a bunch of high school teams would beat Bard and how that is not valid considering there are high school teams that would be incredible D3 teams.
Ive got MSV and Westbury tonight! MSV's style is tough to guard and Maritime doesn't match up well with it. Westbury is just a little too strong all around for Purchase. Panthers will need something huge from Billups or Lewis to win this.
Bard is actually around 55 G's a year now which is crazy to think about and the point that more kids get into the school and can't afford it is a HUGE one!! Every year there are impact players who's first choice is Bard, they get in academically and then at the end of the day either don't get enough aid or can't afford the price put in front of them. All of this is a moot point because it is the hand dealt and what we have to work around. Given all of this and the past I am proud of where Bard is now and where we are going!
Obviously, Pats and Bens would win the Skyline, I was just responding to a point that a bunch of high school teams would beat Bard and how that is not valid considering there are high school teams that would be incredible D3 teams.
Ive got MSV and Westbury tonight! MSV's style is tough to guard and Maritime doesn't match up well with it. Westbury is just a little too strong all around for Purchase. Panthers will need something huge from Billups or Lewis to win this.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 24, 2009, 12:36:57 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 24, 2009, 12:36:57 PM
Once again valid points on the academics and I agree at the end of the day you have to play ball but you also can't rip a school for "not recruiting" when you are an assistant coach at a school that has requirements of 80 avg and 1000 SAT, ya know? The disparity is what it is and the Skyline is a weird league in that way. It will be tough for Bard and Poly to compete and recruit the same class kids overall as a Farmingdale, OW, or St. Joe's. No problem and I have never brought that up until people starting ripping Coach Wood for not recruiting when they don't really understand the full situation.
This is a fair point, Raptor31- but I will also say that I like the range of schools in the Skyline. There's more than one way to get to an elite level, and it is about time Bard challenges itself athletically. As you said, I am also proud of how far the program has come and where it is going.
I guess I view Bard's standards and cost less in terms of an excuse for when Bard comes up short than something that accentuates the positives when Bard takes steps forward.
This is a fair point, Raptor31- but I will also say that I like the range of schools in the Skyline. There's more than one way to get to an elite level, and it is about time Bard challenges itself athletically. As you said, I am also proud of how far the program has come and where it is going.
I guess I view Bard's standards and cost less in terms of an excuse for when Bard comes up short than something that accentuates the positives when Bard takes steps forward.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on February 24, 2009, 12:40:59 PM
Post by: skylinestar on February 24, 2009, 12:40:59 PM
walsh can score from all over the court yes, but he has been virtually unstoppable with low post position...prosper has been too inconsistent, with his size he should dominate the league and im not sure he does, campbell is a very good finisher who can take over a game. Niblock has very good foot work and a good player, however isnt the same caliber as walsh or campbell...i havent heard the dirty player talk
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 01:04:52 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 01:04:52 PM
Once again, it was a point made to dispute the fact that we don't recruit at Bard. I have never mentioned it as an excuse and don't really think it should be but people should understand certain things before they rip the job Coach Wood has done. It isn't the same situation at Bard and shouldn't be treated as such. The fact of the matter is Bard can't just get in any transfer they can find like a few of the other schools have. If you are saying this doesn't make it tougher on them than other teams then that is false. Usually conferences are made up of schools that are at a level playing field.
In Division 1 there are only a few leagues that hold their athletes to the same standards as the rest of the student body and those are the Ivy and Patriot (there is even some give at those schools). In Division 3 if you look at league breakdown, most schools are on a level playing field in terms of admission (UAA are some of the elite schools academically in the country and draw a high level basketball player as well, the NESCAC and Liberty can be said the same of). There is a correlation between the two and while Bard has the potential to get to the level of the higher end academic/athletic combo schools it is not there yet and more improtantly won't get there until the support from the school comes. Raptormania! you know better than anyone that sports is a little more than an irritating blip on the radar screen to most Bard Administration (although there has been a nice uprise of support in certain factions, i.e. admissions and a few other select places).
To do this thing the right way and really make it possible for the school to start to compete on the highest level you need full time coaches across the board, full time assistants in certain places, bigger recruiting budgets (not ones that run out a month into the season every year), and a little give in the admissions standards so that you can take a kid with a 3.2 and 1300 (there have been countless kids with those numbers rejected admission). I think there is still a big task ahead of Coach Wood and thus far he has met it head on and done all he can to change the culture of the place. 7 years ago there were 5 people in the stands, a table skirt on the scorers table and 3 varsity high school basketball players on the team. A little different day and age now and he has been the one to make this happen. I doubt any Skyline coach envies the situation at Bard and I am not sure many guys would have stayed for as long as he has. Countless recruits that got away because of standards and money, a lot of losing seasons that don't seem like they are going anywhere, and no support from the campus as a whole. Having faith in a process and continually working towards goals that aren't over night fixes is something Coach has to be commended for. I don't know how much longer he wants to be there but if he does stay 7 more years I would expect we will be sitting here talking about how Bard Basketball is a winning program in a legit conference and maybe even done some unspeakable things that we will get thrown off the board for saying!! Like winning a conf championship!
In Division 1 there are only a few leagues that hold their athletes to the same standards as the rest of the student body and those are the Ivy and Patriot (there is even some give at those schools). In Division 3 if you look at league breakdown, most schools are on a level playing field in terms of admission (UAA are some of the elite schools academically in the country and draw a high level basketball player as well, the NESCAC and Liberty can be said the same of). There is a correlation between the two and while Bard has the potential to get to the level of the higher end academic/athletic combo schools it is not there yet and more improtantly won't get there until the support from the school comes. Raptormania! you know better than anyone that sports is a little more than an irritating blip on the radar screen to most Bard Administration (although there has been a nice uprise of support in certain factions, i.e. admissions and a few other select places).
To do this thing the right way and really make it possible for the school to start to compete on the highest level you need full time coaches across the board, full time assistants in certain places, bigger recruiting budgets (not ones that run out a month into the season every year), and a little give in the admissions standards so that you can take a kid with a 3.2 and 1300 (there have been countless kids with those numbers rejected admission). I think there is still a big task ahead of Coach Wood and thus far he has met it head on and done all he can to change the culture of the place. 7 years ago there were 5 people in the stands, a table skirt on the scorers table and 3 varsity high school basketball players on the team. A little different day and age now and he has been the one to make this happen. I doubt any Skyline coach envies the situation at Bard and I am not sure many guys would have stayed for as long as he has. Countless recruits that got away because of standards and money, a lot of losing seasons that don't seem like they are going anywhere, and no support from the campus as a whole. Having faith in a process and continually working towards goals that aren't over night fixes is something Coach has to be commended for. I don't know how much longer he wants to be there but if he does stay 7 more years I would expect we will be sitting here talking about how Bard Basketball is a winning program in a legit conference and maybe even done some unspeakable things that we will get thrown off the board for saying!! Like winning a conf championship!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: OxyBob on February 24, 2009, 01:39:18 PM
Post by: OxyBob on February 24, 2009, 01:39:18 PM
Quote from: raptor31 on February 23, 2009, 11:19:37 PM
OxyBob, you don't see much Division III basketball on the east coast obviously. I was on the bench for that loss to Cal Tech and I was utterly shocked by how good Cal Tech was.
I was also at the Bard-Caltech game. Except for CIT players and coaches, I may be the only person in America who's seen them win their last three games against Bard, Gallaudet (see my avatar) and Polytechnic. I have followed Caltech basketball for many years, and although the Beavers are not my team I have always had a soft spot for them because they epitomize everything that's good about D-III, the last bastion of the true amateur student-athlete. I even gave up watching my own team play last Saturday to instead watch CIT play Redlands and maybe snap their 24-year, 285-game conference losing streak, but, alas, it was not to be.
Keep the faith with your cohort Raptormania!
OxyBob
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 24, 2009, 01:48:25 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 24, 2009, 01:48:25 PM
Quote from: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
Once again valid points on the academics and I agree at the end of the day you have to play ball but you also can't rip a school for "not recruiting"
I dont know if this was directed at me, i hope it was not bc i have NEVER ripped Bard in any way. I think Coach Woods does a good job up there in a nearly impossible position. 50k is ALOT and when youre in that tier youre competing with UAA and NESCACs like soimeone said. I think the progression Bard has made has been commendable and im sure they will continue to get better. I think they have a good team, i saw them lose a somewhat close one to Poly and they scrapped the entire 40 minutes, never giving up. I think, like i said earlier, the raptors will be in the playoff hunt next year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on February 24, 2009, 01:57:41 PM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on February 24, 2009, 01:57:41 PM
Bard needs to go the Stevens route.
Stevens was a nothing Skyline team that has since turned its athletic program into one of the best in the country. They have admissions standards that are even, if not slightly harder than Bard. (1350 vs. 1330 on the SAT, 58% of incoming in top 10% vs. 54%)..plus Stevens has one of the highest credit requirements of any school in the country.
*THIS IS NOT A KNOCK ON BARD, BOTH ARE GREAT SCHOOLS...ACADEMICS ARE VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL!*
That being said, Stevens has turned its athletics from nothing to a program where Men's Soccer is a national title contender every year, and Men's Lacrosse, Women's Soccer are both top 25 teams every year. Additionally, Men's basketball (prior to this season) was coming off of a Sweet 16 trip, followed by an ECAC championship.
The formula was pretty simple:
1) Hire an Athletic Director who's job is only to worry about athletics! Don't have him answer to Deans, Teachers, etc. Just focusing on getting funding and hiring the best coaches.
2) MUST have full time head and full time assistant coaches. Without it, you will not win. Period.
3) You actually do not need to be softer on admissions. Stevens admission process for athletes has actually gotten harder as they've improved, not easier. Lower admissions standards only furthers the divide between academic sphere (professors and such) and athletes.
4) How do you solve 3? Simple...more money for athletes. The athletes you want aren't the ones you have to lower your academics for. But the ones that do qualify, you can't lose because of money. That is where Stevens made their move. They started invested more in their scholarship funds and thus had a bigger resource pool to provide financial aid and scholarships.
Stevens was a nothing Skyline team that has since turned its athletic program into one of the best in the country. They have admissions standards that are even, if not slightly harder than Bard. (1350 vs. 1330 on the SAT, 58% of incoming in top 10% vs. 54%)..plus Stevens has one of the highest credit requirements of any school in the country.
*THIS IS NOT A KNOCK ON BARD, BOTH ARE GREAT SCHOOLS...ACADEMICS ARE VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL!*
That being said, Stevens has turned its athletics from nothing to a program where Men's Soccer is a national title contender every year, and Men's Lacrosse, Women's Soccer are both top 25 teams every year. Additionally, Men's basketball (prior to this season) was coming off of a Sweet 16 trip, followed by an ECAC championship.
The formula was pretty simple:
1) Hire an Athletic Director who's job is only to worry about athletics! Don't have him answer to Deans, Teachers, etc. Just focusing on getting funding and hiring the best coaches.
2) MUST have full time head and full time assistant coaches. Without it, you will not win. Period.
3) You actually do not need to be softer on admissions. Stevens admission process for athletes has actually gotten harder as they've improved, not easier. Lower admissions standards only furthers the divide between academic sphere (professors and such) and athletes.
4) How do you solve 3? Simple...more money for athletes. The athletes you want aren't the ones you have to lower your academics for. But the ones that do qualify, you can't lose because of money. That is where Stevens made their move. They started invested more in their scholarship funds and thus had a bigger resource pool to provide financial aid and scholarships.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 02:00:06 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 02:00:06 PM
Not directed at you BK, directed at a previous poster who said we needed to "start recruiting." I was saying I agree with your point that at the end of the day the rims are 10 ft and the ball is round and guys have to get it done on the court but people can't ignore the other situations that go along with that in college basketball that are sometimes out of a coaches hands.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 24, 2009, 02:04:30 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 24, 2009, 02:04:30 PM
Quote from: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 02:00:06 PM
Not directed at you BK, directed at a previous poster who said we needed to "start recruiting." I was saying I agree with your point that at the end of the day the rims are 10 ft and the ball is round and guys have to get it done on the court but people can't ignore the other situations that go along with that in college basketball that are sometimes out of a coaches hands.
totally agree! just didnt want you to think i was ripping Bard... ;D
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 02:11:20 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 02:11:20 PM
Well put cyclone, I completely agree except the loosening of standards academically should be done in the same way Bard does for a talented singer, pianist, actor, etc. I am not saying take a kid with a 2.8 and 1100. Bard has taken kids that maybe have a 3.2 and 1250 because it adds to your campus to have a potential world class violinist, future actor, etc. and these kids are bringing something else besides what they do in a classroom. I simply would like to see them give this same little bit of room for a kid who will come on campus and be a star at a sport. The administration doesn't seem to think athletics is a vital enough part of campus life to give this same leeway(although they seem to think art and music are). I agree that you can't create a divide between athletics and the school by taking kids who don't measure up, but diversifying your campus with a different type of kid like a successful athlete, even if he is a slight notch below, isn't always bad thing. I appreciate your view on things and couldn't agree more that full time coaches and assistants is the first and most crucial step to being successful. It is tough to ask a part time assistant coach to do as much work as a full time when that guy has to substitute teach during the day or work another 9-5 type job. It is a must have if Bard wants to raise up a level!!!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on February 24, 2009, 02:17:59 PM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on February 24, 2009, 02:17:59 PM
Ohh, I agree completely that they should diversify their campus. It's sort of a double edge sword though, because schools like Bard and "old" Stevens don't/didn't value athletics enough to let in athletes with less than ideal criteria.
I'll give you the example of how it works. All the Men's programs at Stevens were pretty bad. However, once they hired the full time coaches/assistants, they were able to do more work in recruiting. Because of this, they were able to recruit a good crop of athletes, across sports, that also met or exceeded the admissions requirements.
Now, this is where the luck comes in. These athletes, having already satisfied the academics of the campus, then went out and started winning. A lot. Because of this, the campus, professors included, get more interested in sports.
Now, second go round, you go back to admissions with a winning program, having done it (part luck, part skill) through recruiting qualified kids who could win. When you go into admissions the second time around, that's the time to push for letting in the less than ideal candidate, because you have something to base it off.
Basically, you have to kind of get lucky with the first group and hope that they are as good on the court as they are off it, and then once you've established that you'll be able to push the envelope on other kids. But again, that goes back to both you and my main point..got to have full time staff in place to find these kids.
I'll give you the example of how it works. All the Men's programs at Stevens were pretty bad. However, once they hired the full time coaches/assistants, they were able to do more work in recruiting. Because of this, they were able to recruit a good crop of athletes, across sports, that also met or exceeded the admissions requirements.
Now, this is where the luck comes in. These athletes, having already satisfied the academics of the campus, then went out and started winning. A lot. Because of this, the campus, professors included, get more interested in sports.
Now, second go round, you go back to admissions with a winning program, having done it (part luck, part skill) through recruiting qualified kids who could win. When you go into admissions the second time around, that's the time to push for letting in the less than ideal candidate, because you have something to base it off.
Basically, you have to kind of get lucky with the first group and hope that they are as good on the court as they are off it, and then once you've established that you'll be able to push the envelope on other kids. But again, that goes back to both you and my main point..got to have full time staff in place to find these kids.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 24, 2009, 02:21:52 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 24, 2009, 02:21:52 PM
Cyclone and Raptor31 are chock-full of good points. Just to briefly address:
4) How do you solve 3? Simple...more money for athletes. The athletes you want aren't the ones you have to lower your academics for. But the ones that do qualify, you can't lose because of money. That is where Stevens made their move. They started invested more in their scholarship funds and thus had a bigger resource pool to provide financial aid and scholarships.
This one flies in the face of 1, unfortunately- to get this an AD needs to be a forceful, effective advocate for the school providing financial aid and scholarships to prospective athletes.
4) How do you solve 3? Simple...more money for athletes. The athletes you want aren't the ones you have to lower your academics for. But the ones that do qualify, you can't lose because of money. That is where Stevens made their move. They started invested more in their scholarship funds and thus had a bigger resource pool to provide financial aid and scholarships.
This one flies in the face of 1, unfortunately- to get this an AD needs to be a forceful, effective advocate for the school providing financial aid and scholarships to prospective athletes.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Cyclone0205 on February 24, 2009, 02:30:35 PM
Post by: Cyclone0205 on February 24, 2009, 02:30:35 PM
Ahh Mania, i should have been more clear...
The AD should be forceful for school funding. What I meant by "answer to no one" is that you can't have an AD who is tied more towards the academics than the athletics. Your AD has to be the one that fights the professor and says "yes, this kid has a playoff game and will be missing this exam and you will allow him to take it when he gets back." Maybe that's not a problem at Bard, but I know at Stevens and WPI (both teams who have become respectable in basketball) that was always an issue of professors wanting their agendas to supersede sports.
I know, that seems to go against my point about not dividing the professors and the athletic department, but that is always a battle that comes up. That's why I think you have the AD fight it on his front, as opposed to fighting (initially) for the lower admissions standards at times for athletes.
The AD should be forceful for school funding. What I meant by "answer to no one" is that you can't have an AD who is tied more towards the academics than the athletics. Your AD has to be the one that fights the professor and says "yes, this kid has a playoff game and will be missing this exam and you will allow him to take it when he gets back." Maybe that's not a problem at Bard, but I know at Stevens and WPI (both teams who have become respectable in basketball) that was always an issue of professors wanting their agendas to supersede sports.
I know, that seems to go against my point about not dividing the professors and the athletic department, but that is always a battle that comes up. That's why I think you have the AD fight it on his front, as opposed to fighting (initially) for the lower admissions standards at times for athletes.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on February 24, 2009, 02:41:21 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on February 24, 2009, 02:41:21 PM
No, that makes a lot of sense. Frankly, there's probably more than one way to get there- but you need an AD to do this, and an administration to listen.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on February 24, 2009, 02:41:55 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on February 24, 2009, 02:41:55 PM
Cyclone, that is a problem at most schools, some professors think their core fundamental course is more important than anything else. I had a FC II (basic english class, lit and grammer) prof who tried to fail me because I missed a week of classes due to dress rehearsals and matinee performances of Man of La Mancha my second year at NJCU. She asked me what was more important, her class or playing some guitar. I replied that since I was a music major and classical guitar major, the play was more important. Especially since that play was a big part of my grade for three different classes that semester.
What is also helpful is an Academic Compliance coordinator who deals with the checking on grades and eligibility and deals with the faculty when it comes to it.
What is also helpful is an Academic Compliance coordinator who deals with the checking on grades and eligibility and deals with the faculty when it comes to it.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 03:13:54 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 03:13:54 PM
All great points guys and something Coach Wood has done since getting to Bard is help create the SAAC (Student Athlete Advisory Committee) which has handled a lot of situations we are talking about. They have helped get lights on the soccer field to allow night time practices. Also, this committee helped bridge the gap between professors and athletics and created a policy where as an athlete you can miss classes for certain games and practices as long as you give the schedule to the professor ahead of time. When I was a student fellow athletes got marked down grades for choosing to go to games over classes. Some professors are so full of themselves and their classes and think that this type of academic success is all that matters in a kids school experience. Thankfully, we have made it illegal for a professor to mark kids down for fulfilling team commitments. One of the small battles we have won the past 7 years on the way up.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 25, 2009, 02:22:11 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 25, 2009, 02:22:11 PM
Monster win for Maritime and Old Westbury pulled it out as expected. Guess the big run by Purchase didn't quite work out. Sometimes coaching and having talent that knows how to play together helps! Where did our favorite Purchase fan go?
In all seriousness great turn around by the Panthers this year and it shows how one year can make a big difference! This time last year if I said Purchase will be a playoff team everyone would have laughed! Who knows, next year we could be sitting here having the same conversation about (the team that shall not be named).
In all seriousness great turn around by the Panthers this year and it shows how one year can make a big difference! This time last year if I said Purchase will be a playoff team everyone would have laughed! Who knows, next year we could be sitting here having the same conversation about (the team that shall not be named).
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 25, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on February 25, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: raptor31 on February 25, 2009, 02:22:11 PM
Monster win for Maritime and Old Westbury pulled it out as expected. Guess the big run by Purchase didn't quite work out. Sometimes coaching and having talent that knows how to play together helps! Where did our favorite Purchase fan go?
In all seriousness great turn around by the Panthers this year and it shows how one year can make a big difference! This time last year if I said Purchase will be a playoff team everyone would have laughed! Who knows, next year we could be sitting here having the same conversation about (the team that shall not be named).
purchase will certainly be a strong team in this conference for the next few years...they have a good base and a coach who cares.
BaRD ( I WILL NAME THEM) should also be in the playoff hunt next year in my opinion.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 25, 2009, 03:26:53 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 25, 2009, 03:26:53 PM
There aren't many boards on this site that are weaker than the Skyline board by the way.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: all day quads on February 25, 2009, 04:09:55 PM
Post by: all day quads on February 25, 2009, 04:09:55 PM
Quote from: raptor31 on February 24, 2009, 12:07:48 PM
Billups is in the discussion. What are the all conf teams? I got them like this.
First Team
Campbell - Farmingdale
Santana - Farmingdale
JJ Walsh - St. Joe's
Billups - Purchase
Justin White - Bard
Second Team
Nick DiMaggio - MSV
David Acree - St. Joe's
Lester Prosper - Old Westbury
Arjun Ohri - Polytechnic
Jerrell Lewis - Purchase
Third Team
Chris Harrison - MSM
Joe Cooke - MSV
Andre Cooper - Maritime
Martin Leibovich - Yeshiva
Shane DeNully - Old Westbury
Obviously there will now be 25 posts about how JWhite is not first team but I think he and Billups stats speak for themselves. This is an individual accomplishment not a team accomplishment. Both of these kids had tremendous years that I think outshine the kids from the better teams. Ohri I put on 2nd team simply because he didn't do as much all around as the other 2. Acree, while still having a great year didn't score as much and his % are lower than last year. The other 3 first teamers are no brainers. DiMaggio 2nd team over Cooke (3rd team) because he did a little more assist wise and I think he ran that team well. Prosper 2nd because of his impact on the game and he had nice numbers (14ppg 10rpg 2 blocks). Jerrell Lewis didn't have as great of a year as advertised to start but still was 2nd team worthy. 3rd team you could argue a couple guys but I think Cooper deserves to be there because he had a nice year and Maritime finished surprisingly high. Leibovich is deserving and the one you could prolly argue on would be DeNully but I think his assist numbers (especially ass/to) put him on the team. Probably no better PG in terms of running his team and getting the ball to the right people than DeNully.
Raptor31,
Although I usually respect all your posts, I can't say the same for the one above. Your first and second teams look good, but I can't fathom not having Yonah "the Maccabi Assassin" Greenstein on your third team.
Maccabi once again came up clutch for Bard in their game vs. Yeshiva, when he stepped up and hit a 3 pointer with 30 seconds to go to put Bard up 2. He followed it up by hitting 2 clutch FTs with 3 seconds left to seal the game, and give Bard their first win of the year.
I feel bad for the Skyline Conference, having to deal with the Assassin for 3 more years is not going to be fun.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mid-range j on February 27, 2009, 10:26:04 AM
Post by: mid-range j on February 27, 2009, 10:26:04 AM
Looks like Farmingdale and St Joes will battle it out in the finals..some pretty ridiculous stat lines for each game...
Mike Campbell - 22 points 20 reb
Damien Santana - 20 points 8 reb 4 ass.
JJ Walsh - 22 points 11 reb
David Acree - 17 points 6 ass 5 reb
and Tim Doughtery of Maritime finishes his career ( I dont know if they will make ECACS or not) with a 29 point 13 rebound performance..he really had a great career..
Mike Campbell - 22 points 20 reb
Damien Santana - 20 points 8 reb 4 ass.
JJ Walsh - 22 points 11 reb
David Acree - 17 points 6 ass 5 reb
and Tim Doughtery of Maritime finishes his career ( I dont know if they will make ECACS or not) with a 29 point 13 rebound performance..he really had a great career..
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 27, 2009, 12:11:24 PM
Post by: Queens on February 27, 2009, 12:11:24 PM
Alot of impressive performances in the Semis of the Skyline... Gotta tip your hat to Tim Doughtery on a great career, not gifted with the best athletic ability but worked his but off to become a very successful college basketball player...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on February 27, 2009, 12:17:25 PM
Post by: Queens on February 27, 2009, 12:17:25 PM
I got the spread at Farmingdale -7...
Any takers?? ;D
Any takers?? ;D
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on February 27, 2009, 12:24:40 PM
Post by: skylinestar on February 27, 2009, 12:24:40 PM
ill take that bet, st joes wins by 10
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on February 27, 2009, 01:40:40 PM
Post by: raptor31 on February 27, 2009, 01:40:40 PM
I think Farmingdale is just a bit too much. Walsh has to keep Campbell in check and have a big game on his offensive end for St. Joe's to play with them. This matchup the last two years has been lopsided in Farmingdale's favor, including last year smacking in the final. Good luck to both squads tomorrow and if St. Joe's wins we might see two teams in the NCAA's from the Skyline.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ball1003 on February 27, 2009, 04:33:17 PM
Post by: ball1003 on February 27, 2009, 04:33:17 PM
Skyline fans.... check this out JJ "Dynamite" Walsh explodes against Maritime
"BEST DUNK OF THE YEAR"!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rnTyxw_EWw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rnTyxw_EWw)
"BEST DUNK OF THE YEAR"!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rnTyxw_EWw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rnTyxw_EWw)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: zonescantstopme on February 28, 2009, 09:09:30 PM
Post by: zonescantstopme on February 28, 2009, 09:09:30 PM
Congrats to St Joe's on Beating Farmingdale!!!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on March 01, 2009, 12:33:52 PM
Post by: skylinestar on March 01, 2009, 12:33:52 PM
st joes was the best team in the conference all year, they lost to fdale playing without their best player walsh and once at fdale by 5 when he was in foul trouble, so pretty much played without him twice....last night they proved it by winning the skyline conference championship game on Fdales floor!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on March 02, 2009, 04:29:00 PM
Post by: skylinestar on March 02, 2009, 04:29:00 PM
guess all those farmingdale fans went away?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: larry_u on March 02, 2009, 04:39:26 PM
Post by: larry_u on March 02, 2009, 04:39:26 PM
Can someone post your NCAA team's profiles in here:
http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6299.0
http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6299.0
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on March 05, 2009, 12:27:38 AM
Post by: raptor31 on March 05, 2009, 12:27:38 AM
Not sure ive seen one farmingdale fan here all year long. I don't think they have much of a following! Best team in the conference and no one talks about them.
St Joes will beat DeSales and lose to Ithaca most likely. Will have to play incredible to beat Ithaca, that is a tough squad!
I think Farmingdale will also beat U of New England. Well coached team in NE vs a talented bunch in Farmingdale. I think the talent wins out and two Skyline teams get NCAA victories.
Second Round is also very winnable game for Farmingdale as both MIT and RIC are beatable teams for them. I can't see them going past that, it would take a big time effort to upend Middlebury this year but it is possible. They have the talent but unfortunately they will come up against someone with just as much and a little bit of coaching to go along with it.
St Joes will beat DeSales and lose to Ithaca most likely. Will have to play incredible to beat Ithaca, that is a tough squad!
I think Farmingdale will also beat U of New England. Well coached team in NE vs a talented bunch in Farmingdale. I think the talent wins out and two Skyline teams get NCAA victories.
Second Round is also very winnable game for Farmingdale as both MIT and RIC are beatable teams for them. I can't see them going past that, it would take a big time effort to upend Middlebury this year but it is possible. They have the talent but unfortunately they will come up against someone with just as much and a little bit of coaching to go along with it.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on March 05, 2009, 09:35:21 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on March 05, 2009, 09:35:21 AM
good luck to Brooklyn, Baruch, Farmingdale and SJC in the tourney!!! Lets make some noise for the region!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on March 05, 2009, 11:05:49 AM
Post by: skylinestar on March 05, 2009, 11:05:49 AM
raptor, clearly st joes is the best team in the conference, and atleast you were right about niblock bein the x factor in that championship game
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: backboard on March 05, 2009, 11:35:11 AM
Post by: backboard on March 05, 2009, 11:35:11 AM
Don't be surprised if Farmingdale loses though
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mid-range j on March 05, 2009, 03:53:44 PM
Post by: mid-range j on March 05, 2009, 03:53:44 PM
raptor,
what do you know about desales?
have you seen them play?
just wondering..
what do you know about desales?
have you seen them play?
just wondering..
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on March 05, 2009, 07:50:36 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on March 05, 2009, 07:50:36 PM
Live stats have DeSales up 15 at the half and killin SJC on the boards
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on March 05, 2009, 08:51:34 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on March 05, 2009, 08:51:34 PM
Congrats to St Joseph's on a great season, unfortunately they lost to DeSales, rebounded in the second half and played well it seems on live stats.
personal fouls 26- sjc , 13 DeSales. Seemed to be the difference.
personal fouls 26- sjc , 13 DeSales. Seemed to be the difference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on March 05, 2009, 11:44:27 PM
Post by: raptor31 on March 05, 2009, 11:44:27 PM
Great season for St Joe's. I hope they soak all of this in because it is a once in a lifetime experience to make the tourney at any level. Great run and I am sure they are feeling bad now but looking back in a couple weeks they will be proud of the year they had.
Late answer Mid Range. Desales is real deal. I didn't see them but heard a lot about them from coaches in the Freedom. Braswell was awesome at William Allen in HS and he has been tremendous in college. Kid is just a beast all around. Like 6'1 but plays bigger and does everything. Lipinski is 6'6 and a great d3 big. After that the PG from Emmaus is tough and runs their team well and they go 8 deep.
These are all kids from the area around our camp so I have seen a lot of them playing coming up. Scariest thing is they return Braswell and Hunter and have a kid Jamey Bersier who a lot of people thought was a d2 level talent so if he comes along and fills Lipinskis shoes they will be back again. Not a bad loss for St. Joe's at all. I thought Walsh and Acree would cancel out Lipinski and Braswell and then the role players from St. Joes would take over but it seems like Desales toughness was too much.
Late answer Mid Range. Desales is real deal. I didn't see them but heard a lot about them from coaches in the Freedom. Braswell was awesome at William Allen in HS and he has been tremendous in college. Kid is just a beast all around. Like 6'1 but plays bigger and does everything. Lipinski is 6'6 and a great d3 big. After that the PG from Emmaus is tough and runs their team well and they go 8 deep.
These are all kids from the area around our camp so I have seen a lot of them playing coming up. Scariest thing is they return Braswell and Hunter and have a kid Jamey Bersier who a lot of people thought was a d2 level talent so if he comes along and fills Lipinskis shoes they will be back again. Not a bad loss for St. Joe's at all. I thought Walsh and Acree would cancel out Lipinski and Braswell and then the role players from St. Joes would take over but it seems like Desales toughness was too much.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on March 07, 2009, 08:23:23 PM
Post by: raptor31 on March 07, 2009, 08:23:23 PM
Farmingdale up 6 with 7 min left... Middlebury in a tight one. As of right now Farmingdale has a very legit shot of going to the Elite 8 and after seeing Stockton last night they can play with them as well. Little Skyline might be making some noise!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on March 07, 2009, 09:48:42 PM
Post by: raptor31 on March 07, 2009, 09:48:42 PM
Farmingdale vs Bridgewater should be a great matchup and Farmingdale has more than a legit shot to win! Bridgewater has a lot of weapons, athletic bigs, one great shooter and a legit PG. Farmingdale matches their athleticism and this game will come down to which guys make big plays down the stretch.
If Farmingdale pulls it out they can also play with a Stockton team that is loaded with guards and shooters or St Lawrence. Scary as it may be this could be a Final 4 team and looking at the other side of the bracket makes me believe they could feasibly go to the title game. CRAZY!
If Farmingdale pulls it out they can also play with a Stockton team that is loaded with guards and shooters or St Lawrence. Scary as it may be this could be a Final 4 team and looking at the other side of the bracket makes me believe they could feasibly go to the title game. CRAZY!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: marchmadness on March 08, 2009, 08:20:30 AM
Post by: marchmadness on March 08, 2009, 08:20:30 AM
Congrats to Farmingdale on a great job this year. I'd also like to congratulate oft-neglected SUNY Maritime and their coaching staff on a job well done. They went from a 4-21 club (the year prior to Coach King and his staff taking over) to 13 wins in 07-08 and 15 wins and an ECAC berth (their first one since 97-98) this past season. And they did it without Paul Frazier, who would have been a 20/10 player had he not been ruled academically ineligible. It should be noted that with Frazier, Maritime was the only skyline team to beat Farmingdale during the regular season. With Farmingdale losing Santana and Shannon and St. Joes losing Acree, Walsh, Niblock and others, it looks like next year should be wide open.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ncaaguy5 on March 09, 2009, 04:46:23 PM
Post by: ncaaguy5 on March 09, 2009, 04:46:23 PM
Thanks for the comments coach king
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylinestar on March 09, 2009, 05:17:07 PM
Post by: skylinestar on March 09, 2009, 05:17:07 PM
hey dont toot ur own horn now jody
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2009, 05:27:54 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2009, 05:27:54 PM
For what it's worth, the post didn't come from anywhere near New York ...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ncaaguy5 on March 10, 2009, 01:24:42 PM
Post by: ncaaguy5 on March 10, 2009, 01:24:42 PM
whatever pat coleman, your a tool
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2009, 03:08:22 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2009, 03:08:22 PM
Well, sorry to inject facts into the conversation. I prefer facts to assumptions. You're not a fan, I can tell. :)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: ncaaguy5 on March 11, 2009, 07:58:43 AM
Post by: ncaaguy5 on March 11, 2009, 07:58:43 AM
fact is your trying to protect your boy...like anyone not from the ny area would know about NY maritime. I didn't know there was a press release about Frazier being inelgible. I also didnt know that maritime was covered nationally. Its a shame that Farmingdale and St. Joes weren't nationally covered, at least they had 20 wins. How does a 15 win team get national coverage?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 11, 2009, 09:55:16 AM
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 11, 2009, 09:55:16 AM
National coverage? What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: 123456 on March 11, 2009, 10:00:51 AM
Post by: 123456 on March 11, 2009, 10:00:51 AM
Quote from: ncaaguy5 on March 11, 2009, 07:58:43 AM
fact is your trying to protect your boy...like anyone not from the ny area would know about NY maritime. I didn't know there was a press release about Frazier being inelgible. I also didnt know that maritime was covered nationally. Its a shame that Farmingdale and St. Joes weren't nationally covered, at least they had 20 wins. How does a 15 win team get national coverage?
This has to be one of the dumbest posts I have read in a while. Let me explain how ANY team can get "national coverage" the way you are talking about. OK, get ready....it's called a (drum roll, please)......WEBSITE!!!! Did you know that anyone in the nation can see Maritime's website? That mean's someone from, yes, even Nebraska can read the Maritime website and see the facts. Here's another one for you...did you know that when someone graduates from Maritime College (or any college) they are free to go where they would like? That means there could be alumni all over the world, wanting to know how Maritime is doing in sports, and then see that they did what they did...
Anyway, enough of Maritime. What are Farmingdale's chances this weekend? Farmingdale is the only team from the Skyline still playing, that's what this board should be focused on now....
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: phil on March 11, 2009, 10:30:03 AM
Post by: phil on March 11, 2009, 10:30:03 AM
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! "
Like Bluto, ncaaguy5 is on a roll with his MENSA-like meanderings.
BTW, I'm here in Texas and can name TCNJ's starting five, their head coach, and the number of points their assistant coach scored during his senior season in 1989 (1077). I keep up to date by employing a mixture of telepathy and carrier pigeon... on days when the internet is down.
Like Bluto, ncaaguy5 is on a roll with his MENSA-like meanderings.
BTW, I'm here in Texas and can name TCNJ's starting five, their head coach, and the number of points their assistant coach scored during his senior season in 1989 (1077). I keep up to date by employing a mixture of telepathy and carrier pigeon... on days when the internet is down.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on March 11, 2009, 11:43:22 AM
Post by: Knightstalker on March 11, 2009, 11:43:22 AM
Quote from: phil on March 11, 2009, 10:30:03 AM
"Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! "
Like Bluto, ncaaguy5 is on a roll with his MENSA-like meanderings.
BTW, I'm here in Texas and can name TCNJ's starting five, their head coach, and the number of points their assistant coach scored during his senior season in 1989 (1077). I keep up to date by employing a mixture of telepathy and carrier pigeon... on days when the internet is down.
Phil,
Don't know if you saw this previously. Former TCNJ (http://www.harlemglobetrotters.com/team/players/index.html?player_id=10) player is on the globetrotters.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: phil on March 11, 2009, 12:12:54 PM
Post by: phil on March 11, 2009, 12:12:54 PM
Knightstalker,
I did! How many D3 bball programs can claim they had an NBA player and a Globetrotter? They were just down here in Houston.
On another note, how many D3 programs can claim they beat Stockton and lost to Rutgers Camden this year, arghhh...
I did! How many D3 bball programs can claim they had an NBA player and a Globetrotter? They were just down here in Houston.
On another note, how many D3 programs can claim they beat Stockton and lost to Rutgers Camden this year, arghhh...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on March 11, 2009, 12:58:58 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on March 11, 2009, 12:58:58 PM
Harold Williams who played for Montclair and NJCU was also a Globetrotter for a season or two, he moved up to the Trotters from the Generals.
I just took the wife and kids to see the Trotters in Newark on Valentines day. Very good time.
I just took the wife and kids to see the Trotters in Newark on Valentines day. Very good time.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 14, 2009, 01:20:16 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on March 14, 2009, 01:20:16 PM
Here are the 2009 regular season totals for the Skyline vs.
CUNYAC....9-11
NJAC....2-5
CUNYAC....9-11
NJAC....2-5
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mellymel on March 14, 2009, 02:47:36 PM
Post by: mellymel on March 14, 2009, 02:47:36 PM
Live blog from tonight's NCAA game between Richard Stockton and Farmingdale State, starting at 7 p.m.:
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/126/story/428698.html
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/126/story/428698.html
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on March 17, 2009, 08:19:50 PM
Post by: raptor31 on March 17, 2009, 08:19:50 PM
RAPTORS 2010!!!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on April 19, 2009, 05:03:23 PM
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on April 19, 2009, 05:03:23 PM
There is talk on the E-8 board about several of their teams moving to the Liberty League. What are the thoughts here about teams from the Skyline moving into the E-8? Would that kind of mover make sense for any of the schools?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on May 08, 2009, 04:42:52 PM
Post by: raptor31 on May 08, 2009, 04:42:52 PM
Talk about getting it wrong, all-region for Atlantic was not even close. No issues with the 1st team what so ever but having Tim Wesley, Rashawn Smalls (a freshman) and even Nick Brady on over Justin White is an absurd proposition. Not to take away anything the three of these guys did but this team is made based on individual performance and White's season was far above anything these guys did. Wesley avg 17 and 9 (46% fg 30% 3pt) Smalls avg 16 and 8 and Brady avg 17 and 7. All nice seasons but you can't tell me they are deserving over the year Justin put up. Don't give me the team argument because none of the 3 of these guys played in meaningful conference games either as all 3 teams were sub .500.
Youre telling me 3 seasons where guys avg 17 and 8 reb (which is a nice year but fairly average in the scope of all region seasons) are more deserving than this kids numbers. These guys werent playing in the Wisc league going against top tier comp every night so I just don't get it. Look at the season White had, 22 pts 5 reb (from guard) 3 ass 3 steals, shot 40% from 3, went to the line 9 times a game, and did all this while getting double and triple teamed with the focus of every defense on him. Not to mention his 46 point game. SID's got it right with Billups who had an outstanding season for an ok team, they missed on this one. Not sure if it was because Bard didn't have the overall exposure to the region those 3 guys did but however this one was done it was done wrong. I know everyone is a Bard hater and the team is no good and all that but it was a little disrespectful to put those 3 guys on 2nd team over Justin.
Youre telling me 3 seasons where guys avg 17 and 8 reb (which is a nice year but fairly average in the scope of all region seasons) are more deserving than this kids numbers. These guys werent playing in the Wisc league going against top tier comp every night so I just don't get it. Look at the season White had, 22 pts 5 reb (from guard) 3 ass 3 steals, shot 40% from 3, went to the line 9 times a game, and did all this while getting double and triple teamed with the focus of every defense on him. Not to mention his 46 point game. SID's got it right with Billups who had an outstanding season for an ok team, they missed on this one. Not sure if it was because Bard didn't have the overall exposure to the region those 3 guys did but however this one was done it was done wrong. I know everyone is a Bard hater and the team is no good and all that but it was a little disrespectful to put those 3 guys on 2nd team over Justin.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on May 21, 2009, 08:19:09 PM
Post by: raptor31 on May 21, 2009, 08:19:09 PM
Look out for Bard's role players to make big jumps next year. There are a lot of shooters around J White next season. David Polett struggled with his shot this season but expect him to come back strong next year and have a big season. Adam Shear quietly had a big 2nd half of the year as he was gone first semester and came back to hit 42 3's in 15 games. These two guys both are within striking distance of Demetrius Washington's career 3 pt record and expect them to both break it!
Add in incoming Freshman Greg Gainey who is a straight gunner from Allentown, PA and you have a lot of threats around White to shoot the ball when you help off on him!
Returning sophomore Forrest Alvarez-Ringer will come back with a vengeance and surprise some people with the development in his game. He didn't play 2nd semester as he was getting his academics straight but having him come back is like having one of the best big man recruits in the conference. His 3 pt shot will be much improved and his interior strength will be a big bonus.
Add into that the fact the gang leader Justin White hit 56 threes last year and is only a mere 9 3s from breaking the career record himself and you have a deadly offensive unit returning. This is a team that will still lack size but they will be very experienced and have one of the best returning players in the country! With some of the losses of the conference powers expect a much improved Raptors bunch. The best thing about D3 is that guys who were once ok as underclassmen can really become stars when they commit to working on their game. Like we say every year, don't sleep on the Raptors. Everyone is coming back and hopefully this year we can keep the entire roster playing the whole year, crazier things have happened.
Add in incoming Freshman Greg Gainey who is a straight gunner from Allentown, PA and you have a lot of threats around White to shoot the ball when you help off on him!
Returning sophomore Forrest Alvarez-Ringer will come back with a vengeance and surprise some people with the development in his game. He didn't play 2nd semester as he was getting his academics straight but having him come back is like having one of the best big man recruits in the conference. His 3 pt shot will be much improved and his interior strength will be a big bonus.
Add into that the fact the gang leader Justin White hit 56 threes last year and is only a mere 9 3s from breaking the career record himself and you have a deadly offensive unit returning. This is a team that will still lack size but they will be very experienced and have one of the best returning players in the country! With some of the losses of the conference powers expect a much improved Raptors bunch. The best thing about D3 is that guys who were once ok as underclassmen can really become stars when they commit to working on their game. Like we say every year, don't sleep on the Raptors. Everyone is coming back and hopefully this year we can keep the entire roster playing the whole year, crazier things have happened.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: raptor31 on May 21, 2009, 08:24:25 PM
Post by: raptor31 on May 21, 2009, 08:24:25 PM
Apparently not many people really care about Skyline Basketball. Any news from the rest of the conference and outlook for next year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on May 27, 2009, 11:12:27 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on May 27, 2009, 11:12:27 PM
Pretty clearly, the talent at Bard has rendered the rest of the conference mute.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on May 28, 2009, 03:47:53 PM
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on May 28, 2009, 03:47:53 PM
Quote from: Raptormania! on May 27, 2009, 11:12:27 PM
Pretty clearly, the talent at Bard has rendered the rest of the conference mute.
Yeah....that must be it.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: jmurphyslaw on July 15, 2009, 09:55:47 PM
Post by: jmurphyslaw on July 15, 2009, 09:55:47 PM
raptor31 & Raptormania
I love that you guys are so hyped up for Bard Basketball...Ialways get a kick out of your posts and the reactions!!! I will have to shuffle over to the LL board to see the chaos you two cause there!!!
What do you think the move to the LL means for you guys? More investment by Bard into athletics? What will it do for recruiting? Any scoop on incoming guys? Will Bard win more than 3 games inthe Skyline before they leave?
Any scoop on the new coach? I know you two have answers........
I love that you guys are so hyped up for Bard Basketball...Ialways get a kick out of your posts and the reactions!!! I will have to shuffle over to the LL board to see the chaos you two cause there!!!
What do you think the move to the LL means for you guys? More investment by Bard into athletics? What will it do for recruiting? Any scoop on incoming guys? Will Bard win more than 3 games inthe Skyline before they leave?
Any scoop on the new coach? I know you two have answers........
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on July 17, 2009, 09:30:20 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on July 17, 2009, 09:30:20 PM
All will be revealed in due course... the empire will continue expanding...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3bballlova on October 20, 2009, 09:16:31 PM
Post by: d3bballlova on October 20, 2009, 09:16:31 PM
hey any news on the kid arjun ohri from poly? poly's roster was released yesterday and he's not on it.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: FROMAFAR on October 21, 2009, 09:45:28 AM
Post by: FROMAFAR on October 21, 2009, 09:45:28 AM
d3bballova, check that Poly roster again... I think he is there... what about the new coach there and the size of the roster... they have 7 footer as well. What happened to there coach... did he go with his brother at Mt. St. Vincent??? I'll check the web.... Who's this new coach... Washington.... could Poly be an issue in the Skyline this year...??/ Skyline may be down a bit this year, but I am in unchartered water and have no right speaking toward a conference I am not that familiar with... ;D
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on October 21, 2009, 02:49:18 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on October 21, 2009, 02:49:18 PM
I don't see Ohri on Poly's roster. If he's not there that's a major loss. The 7-0 center, Alexander, appears to be a transfer from Cameron University, a D2 school in Oklahoma. I have absolutely no info on him. Also don't know where Dan Nigro is. I don't see how Poly will be a factor this year.
Once again Farmingdale appears to be the favorite. Even though they lost Santana and Shannon, they do return Campbell, who's one of the best players in the region. Plus they're bringing in some impact JUCO transfers. It looks like the Rams could be about as good as last year.
St. Joe's lost Acree and Walsh, which really hurts. I don't know what new players will be there this year, but they may very well be the team most likely to challenge Farmingdale.
Once again Farmingdale appears to be the favorite. Even though they lost Santana and Shannon, they do return Campbell, who's one of the best players in the region. Plus they're bringing in some impact JUCO transfers. It looks like the Rams could be about as good as last year.
St. Joe's lost Acree and Walsh, which really hurts. I don't know what new players will be there this year, but they may very well be the team most likely to challenge Farmingdale.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: FROMAFAR on October 23, 2009, 12:37:52 PM
Post by: FROMAFAR on October 23, 2009, 12:37:52 PM
Rhodes that's why you are a scholar and I am Fromafar... OHRI is not on the roster, my apologies........I saw AJAY OLADAPO............ as the kids say, my bad.....I should stick to e-8 ;)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 01, 2009, 01:15:59 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 01, 2009, 01:15:59 PM
Why is it that the Atlantic, as a region, seems to be the worst at updating their rosters/websites/etc?
Brooklyn is tenth in the nation, no roster?? Its November already.
St Joe's and Farmingdale were both NCAA teams last year, no roster up by November?
The Skyline and Cuny really need to enact some sort of rule if you ask me. Rosters should be posted by "X=date."
Brooklyn is tenth in the nation, no roster?? Its November already.
St Joe's and Farmingdale were both NCAA teams last year, no roster up by November?
The Skyline and Cuny really need to enact some sort of rule if you ask me. Rosters should be posted by "X=date."
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3bballlova on November 05, 2009, 03:27:09 PM
Post by: d3bballlova on November 05, 2009, 03:27:09 PM
the season will be underway very shortly, and i'm curious to know what people are saying about the conference this year? preseason projections? who will finish on top/bottom of the conference? POY, all-conference, and ROY selections?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bmull on November 12, 2009, 09:30:54 PM
Post by: bmull on November 12, 2009, 09:30:54 PM
Could Farmingdale please post its roster - yikes!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bmull on November 12, 2009, 09:48:41 PM
Post by: bmull on November 12, 2009, 09:48:41 PM
SUNY Purchase - roster, please.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: FROMAFAR on November 13, 2009, 09:28:13 AM
Post by: FROMAFAR on November 13, 2009, 09:28:13 AM
Anyone on this site know where coach Nigro from Polytech is?????
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on November 13, 2009, 08:09:50 PM
Post by: CityD3 on November 13, 2009, 08:09:50 PM
Coach Nigro is at BMCC i believe. I also noticed former poly standout arjun ohri is on Division I NJIT's roster this year.
Title: Re: rosters
Post by: bmull on November 13, 2009, 10:43:56 PM
Post by: bmull on November 13, 2009, 10:43:56 PM
Farmingdale and Purchase - C'mon, rosters, please.
Title: Re: Skyline - Sage first game
Post by: bmull on November 15, 2009, 07:40:45 PM
Post by: bmull on November 15, 2009, 07:40:45 PM
I think Coach Barnes and Sage fans have to feel good, despite 82-62 loss to RPI.
Hundreds of folks in the stands, and a team with 15 frosh and 2 juniors handled themselves well. 6-1 frosh Alex King from Saratoga had 13, 6-0 frosh Mervin Springer from Copiague, LI, had 11. A good start.
Hundreds of folks in the stands, and a team with 15 frosh and 2 juniors handled themselves well. 6-1 frosh Alex King from Saratoga had 13, 6-0 frosh Mervin Springer from Copiague, LI, had 11. A good start.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 21, 2009, 05:32:49 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 21, 2009, 05:32:49 PM
It's been quiet in here to start the season...where are the Bard fellas? They usually keep it alive in here.
Well thus far, in this YOUNG season the Skyline is looking good. A year removed from sending 2 teams to the NCAA's and they are 4 and 1 vs. the CUNYAC.
Lehman 71 Mount St. Vincent 76 Final
Medgar Evers 83 Polytechnic 89 Final
York (N.Y.) 78 SUNY-Old Westbury 85 Final
NyCity Tech 56 SUNY-Maritime 78 Final
Yeshiva 60 CCNY 61
I saw the Evers Poly game, a battle of the weaker teams in their respective conferences last yr. and Poly cam out on top, Medgar also went on to beat someone so it was a nice win for Poly to start the year. Congrats to Washington on his first NCAA win, that's got to be exciting for him.
CCNY knocking off Yeshiva was a surprise to me, seems like Coach Stampfel has some new talent in there, would love to hear about them if anyone has info.
Nice wins for Maritime and Westbury,although i think they would be favored in those games if lines were set.
Mt. Saint Vincent beating defending ECAC champs, although a different version of Lehman, seems like a nice win as well for a middle of the road Skyline team from last year.
Seems to me that there are a lot of conference games being played way early in the skyline this year. Any idea why?
Well thus far, in this YOUNG season the Skyline is looking good. A year removed from sending 2 teams to the NCAA's and they are 4 and 1 vs. the CUNYAC.
Lehman 71 Mount St. Vincent 76 Final
Medgar Evers 83 Polytechnic 89 Final
York (N.Y.) 78 SUNY-Old Westbury 85 Final
NyCity Tech 56 SUNY-Maritime 78 Final
Yeshiva 60 CCNY 61
I saw the Evers Poly game, a battle of the weaker teams in their respective conferences last yr. and Poly cam out on top, Medgar also went on to beat someone so it was a nice win for Poly to start the year. Congrats to Washington on his first NCAA win, that's got to be exciting for him.
CCNY knocking off Yeshiva was a surprise to me, seems like Coach Stampfel has some new talent in there, would love to hear about them if anyone has info.
Nice wins for Maritime and Westbury,although i think they would be favored in those games if lines were set.
Mt. Saint Vincent beating defending ECAC champs, although a different version of Lehman, seems like a nice win as well for a middle of the road Skyline team from last year.
Seems to me that there are a lot of conference games being played way early in the skyline this year. Any idea why?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 30, 2009, 01:41:17 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on November 30, 2009, 01:41:17 PM
I saw St. Joe's beat CCNY, 74-65, on Saturday. The Eagles' best player is Jermaine Russell, a 6-7 senior transfer from D2 Lincoln. He is a good athlete who can run the floor, block shots, shot from outside and post up. He'll be tough to deal with in the Skyline. However, SJC lost Acree and Walsh and appear to be a little weaker than last year, although Farmingdale also seems to have slipped a bit.
CCNY is clearly better than last year. They've got about 10 new faces, most of whom are freshmen. Kenny Rubenstein and Jordan Jackson, two freshmen guards, both looked pretty good. There two big men, Tom Hart and Matas Rascius, who are both freshmen, are decent and have potential.
CCNY is clearly better than last year. They've got about 10 new faces, most of whom are freshmen. Kenny Rubenstein and Jordan Jackson, two freshmen guards, both looked pretty good. There two big men, Tom Hart and Matas Rascius, who are both freshmen, are decent and have potential.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 02, 2009, 02:53:24 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 02, 2009, 02:53:24 PM
Why aren't Jermain Russel and Mike Campell on St Joe's and Farmingdale's rosters anymore? Any info?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: gordonmann on December 02, 2009, 03:27:12 PM
Post by: gordonmann on December 02, 2009, 03:27:12 PM
Bkyln:
Look at the CUNYAC message board.
Look at the CUNYAC message board.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 02, 2009, 04:04:04 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 02, 2009, 04:04:04 PM
Quote from: BklynBasketball on December 02, 2009, 02:53:24 PM
Why aren't Jermain Russel and Mike Campell on St Joe's and Farmingdale's rosters anymore? Any info?
Quote from: gordonmann on December 02, 2009, 03:27:12 PM
Bkyln:
Look at the CUNYAC message board.
Gordon: The CUNYAC board has the lowdown on Campbell, but not Russell. I just checked St. Joe's site and Russell is no longer on the roster. So here goes: Does anyone know why he's off the team?
Tough breaks for both teams. These two guys may have been the two best players in the conference.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: gordonmann on December 02, 2009, 10:22:01 PM
Post by: gordonmann on December 02, 2009, 10:22:01 PM
Rhodes:
Right. That was my reference. To quote GI Joe, I figured knowing (that) was half the battle. :)
Right. That was my reference. To quote GI Joe, I figured knowing (that) was half the battle. :)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 06, 2009, 12:46:09 AM
Post by: CityD3 on December 06, 2009, 12:46:09 AM
It looks like Mount St Vincent beat NYU 64-63 on a bucket form Shaq Cunningham with 5 seconds left. That's a great road win for Coach Nigro, MSV, and the Skyline Conference. Congrats.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 06, 2009, 02:22:51 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 06, 2009, 02:22:51 PM
I went to the MSV @ NYU game yesterday. It was competitive from the opening tip. Very good outings by Cunningham and Johnson for MSV, while Jensen and Meziab played well for NYU. Glavan did not dress for NYU, which certainly didn't help.
Big win for MSV (probably the first time they've ever beaten NYU). The Dolphins are very young, but have some decent talent.
Big win for MSV (probably the first time they've ever beaten NYU). The Dolphins are very young, but have some decent talent.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Danny Weismuller on December 07, 2009, 08:39:16 AM
Post by: Danny Weismuller on December 07, 2009, 08:39:16 AM
Big win for MSV, congrats to Coach Nigro and Coach Adams... that program is heading in the right direction and I think they have a new facility. Looks like their might be a new powerhouse growing in the Skyline.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3fann on December 09, 2009, 05:43:37 PM
Post by: d3fann on December 09, 2009, 05:43:37 PM
Dimaggio with 35 points !? WOW :o
MSV is taking on Old Westbury tonight, should be a great test to see what these guys really got.
MSV is taking on Old Westbury tonight, should be a great test to see what these guys really got.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on December 15, 2009, 04:42:14 PM
Post by: Queens on December 15, 2009, 04:42:14 PM
Whats going on with Farmingdale? Anyone see them play lately, amazing how much they have fallen. I wonder if the Farmingdale coach regrets kicking Mr. Campbell off the team...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 15, 2009, 05:32:54 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 15, 2009, 05:32:54 PM
I haven't seen Farmingdale State play this year, but I heard they got some good JUCO transfers and a couple of decent freshmen. However, they lost Santana and Shannon from last year's team as well as Campbell, who I believe was one of the top players in the region. I saw him manhandle some pretty big guys last year--a total beast down low. If he were still around I imagine they would be much better.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2009, 05:25:39 PM
Post by: Rhodes Scholar on December 20, 2009, 05:25:39 PM
I wasn't at this one, but MSV gave Army a very good game yesterday at West Point. It was very close the entire way with Army leading 27-26 at the half and the game was tied at 54 with 5 minutes to play. The win marks the 26th straight win for Army against a non-D1 opponent.
The Dolphins were led by DiMaggio with 13 points while Johnson added 12.
The Dolphins were led by DiMaggio with 13 points while Johnson added 12.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 21, 2009, 01:44:44 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 21, 2009, 01:44:44 PM
the skyline looks about as wide open as EVER this season, happyholidays!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Raptormania! on January 08, 2010, 01:07:33 PM
Post by: Raptormania! on January 08, 2010, 01:07:33 PM
Huge win for the Raptors, 73-53 over NYU-Poly.
Justin White also passed the 1,500 point threshold for his career, and set the Bard record for three-point field goals.
Read more about it here:
http://www.raptormania.com/
Justin White also passed the 1,500 point threshold for his career, and set the Bard record for three-point field goals.
Read more about it here:
http://www.raptormania.com/
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Queens on January 09, 2010, 12:21:17 PM
Post by: Queens on January 09, 2010, 12:21:17 PM
Is it just me or the skyline is even worse than ever...
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on March 01, 2010, 04:04:46 PM
Post by: Knightstalker on March 01, 2010, 04:04:46 PM
Here is the ECAC (http://www.ecacsports.com/championships/2010_Basketball/Metro_Men_bracket.pdf) bracket for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on May 16, 2010, 04:10:07 PM
Post by: BklynBasketball on May 16, 2010, 04:10:07 PM
Coach King out at Maritime? Did he resign for a new position elsewhere?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: bmull on October 13, 2010, 07:41:31 PM
Post by: bmull on October 13, 2010, 07:41:31 PM
Friends Would someone give a shout-out when a roster get posted? thanks!
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 22, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on November 22, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
seems like this is the quietest spot on the boards..wonder why?
So, The Skyline is looking like things are changing.
St Joe's losing to Elms, looking like they have fallen off a bit from the past few years. Not a guy over 6'4 it seems.
Maritime with a couple of big wins in the post Jody King era.
Mt saint vincents back up to the high scoring, up tempo offense they departed from last year.
MSMC Knights look like they can really stroke it with their underclassmen leading the way.
Any Skyline chatter?
So, The Skyline is looking like things are changing.
St Joe's losing to Elms, looking like they have fallen off a bit from the past few years. Not a guy over 6'4 it seems.
Maritime with a couple of big wins in the post Jody King era.
Mt saint vincents back up to the high scoring, up tempo offense they departed from last year.
MSMC Knights look like they can really stroke it with their underclassmen leading the way.
Any Skyline chatter?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: NyBaller09 on November 26, 2010, 03:28:12 PM
Post by: NyBaller09 on November 26, 2010, 03:28:12 PM
Purchase College seems to be doing really well this year. They are 4-0, with quality wins over Brooklyn College, Eastern Connecticut State, and Emerson. I don't see many teams from the Skyline conference being able to compete with those guys this season, could be wrong tho any other skyline news?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 03, 2010, 09:35:48 AM
Post by: CityD3 on December 03, 2010, 09:35:48 AM
Mount St. Vincent's is now 6-0 after a 20 point win on the road against Old Westbury last night. This may prove that they are legit this year.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 13, 2010, 11:59:02 AM
Post by: BklynBasketball on December 13, 2010, 11:59:02 AM
WOW!! No chatter about Mt St Vincents going 10 & 0?!?!? Theyre on the front page of the d3hoops for pete sake...never seen that before.
Purchase 7-0 as well...dare I say the Skyline has become stronger than the CUNY?? ???
Purchase 7-0 as well...dare I say the Skyline has become stronger than the CUNY?? ???
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2011, 03:14:59 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2011, 03:14:59 PM
First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/02/ncaas-mens-regional-rankings/
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on February 09, 2011, 03:24:04 PM
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on February 09, 2011, 03:24:04 PM
Props to the "Big Kadlubowski" for guiding Mt. St. Mary to the #3 spot in the most recent regional rankings.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 16, 2011, 03:29:09 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 16, 2011, 03:29:09 PM
Week 3 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/16/ncaa-2011-regional-rankings-week-3/
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: mailsy on February 28, 2011, 06:09:52 PM
Post by: mailsy on February 28, 2011, 06:09:52 PM
Can anyone tell me about SUNY-Purchase?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: 7express on February 28, 2011, 06:40:51 PM
Post by: 7express on February 28, 2011, 06:40:51 PM
Quote from: mailsy on February 28, 2011, 06:09:52 PM
Can anyone tell me about SUNY-Purchase?
Quick, athletic team. Really expierenced team, whole team is upper classmen, 2 juniors rest are seniors Jeff Charney will have a lot of spots to fill next season. #4 and #5 are the 2 people to watch out for, not afraid to shoot from anywhere on the court. Hopefully both them and Cabrini advance on Friday, that'll be a good Saturday matchup
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 04, 2011, 11:04:44 PM
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 04, 2011, 11:04:44 PM
Purchase impressed tonight. They'll have to be much tougher, more disciplined, and focused to beat Cabrini, though. If both teams play tomorrow as they did tonight, it won't even be close.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Wolfpac on March 05, 2011, 02:18:51 PM
Post by: Wolfpac on March 05, 2011, 02:18:51 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 04, 2011, 11:04:44 PM
Purchase impressed tonight. They'll have to be much tougher, more disciplined, and focused to beat Cabrini, though. If both teams play tomorrow as they did tonight, it won't even be close.
Marcus kahn tends to keep his team focused, Lemons is fine, just a cramp, do not know much except they will double Lemons and that Marcus has a few tricks up his sleeve for the 4 & 5 guys. Hope you can make it out Hoopsfan.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on March 21, 2011, 07:19:12 PM
Post by: CityD3 on March 21, 2011, 07:19:12 PM
Any rumblings about coaching changes??
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylineBOY on May 03, 2011, 04:01:40 PM
Post by: skylineBOY on May 03, 2011, 04:01:40 PM
Yes, Coach Chad Charney is getting fired for advertising that his team needs games on the D3 Hoops Message Boards.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: gordonmann on May 03, 2011, 10:27:46 PM
Post by: gordonmann on May 03, 2011, 10:27:46 PM
That's doubtful. We have a whole message board dedicated just to that purpose. Lots of coaches could be fired for using it. :)
http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?board=1469.0
http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?board=1469.0
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skylineBOY on May 19, 2011, 02:39:48 PM
Post by: skylineBOY on May 19, 2011, 02:39:48 PM
I heard Purchase completely stuck out in recruiting...... Can anyone confirm this? Could they be going from first to last?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on June 08, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
Post by: CityD3 on June 08, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
Rumor has it that Purchase is getting two DII transfers from dowling, Jake Stevens and Beijon Warrington so purchase is reloaded for next year, if true.
Title: My Skyline Conference Pre-Season Rankings
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on September 28, 2011, 01:04:27 PM
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on September 28, 2011, 01:04:27 PM
1. Farmingdale
2. Purchase
3. Mt St Marys
4. Old Westbury
5. St. Joes
6. Yeshiva
7. Sage
8. Mt St Vincent
9. Polytech
10. Maritime
2. Purchase
3. Mt St Marys
4. Old Westbury
5. St. Joes
6. Yeshiva
7. Sage
8. Mt St Vincent
9. Polytech
10. Maritime
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on October 06, 2011, 04:32:22 PM
Post by: CityD3 on October 06, 2011, 04:32:22 PM
Interesting that you have yeshiva number 6, you know something about their recruiting class??? How about poly gettin a writeup for their recruiting class? coach adams trying to change that culture.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on October 07, 2011, 06:46:22 PM
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on October 07, 2011, 06:46:22 PM
I know Yeshiva didn't graduate or lose anyone of significance. They were pretty solid last year and just as good as Sage, which lost some of their top players. Mt St Vincent graduated alot of talent, lost some good underclassmen and failed to add anyone.
As for Poly, I think Nolan will do a great job there. If they had anyone besides coach Washington last year, they would have won at least 5 conference games. I think they will surprise some people this year. It's a shame talented players like Buckner and Mottola had to waste away under the coaching that was there. Maritime appears to be among the worst in all of D3 for this season.
As for Poly, I think Nolan will do a great job there. If they had anyone besides coach Washington last year, they would have won at least 5 conference games. I think they will surprise some people this year. It's a shame talented players like Buckner and Mottola had to waste away under the coaching that was there. Maritime appears to be among the worst in all of D3 for this season.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: skyadvisor on October 21, 2011, 11:31:36 AM
Post by: skyadvisor on October 21, 2011, 11:31:36 AM
Skylineboy,
where did you hear that purchase struck out in recruiting? What about Farmingdale? How are they looking?
where did you hear that purchase struck out in recruiting? What about Farmingdale? How are they looking?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on October 21, 2011, 01:04:36 PM
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on October 21, 2011, 01:04:36 PM
That's what I heard early in the summer, then later on I heard different. They had alot to replace (only Warrington was returning I believe, everyone else either graduated or transferred). I am sure they did a good job reloading though. We will see. I heard Farmingdale got a D1 mid-major 6'11 transfer to go along with their returnees. They sound like the favorite at this point.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on October 22, 2011, 07:47:23 PM
Post by: CityD3 on October 22, 2011, 07:47:23 PM
I think it's terrible that to be a top team in this region, you have to pick up DI/DII rejects. Wish these programs built themselves the old fashioned way.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on October 25, 2011, 04:12:52 PM
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on October 25, 2011, 04:12:52 PM
That seems to be the direction both the skyline and the njac are going in. Some teams still get recruits from high school, like Mt St Mary. But overall, these conferences will both be dictated by d1/d2 transfers.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on October 31, 2011, 07:39:50 PM
Post by: CityD3 on October 31, 2011, 07:39:50 PM
How does Purchase receive top votes for top 25 with no roster posted?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2011, 10:33:39 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2011, 10:33:39 PM
Just because they haven't posted a roster doesn't mean we don't have information on them in-house. :)
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: Nyc_Basketball on November 10, 2011, 01:18:22 PM
Post by: Nyc_Basketball on November 10, 2011, 01:18:22 PM
This years Purchase Panthers have the opportunity to do something special. With Warrington leading the charge & watching them play this summer, I predict a 3 peat. I am pretty sure the squad will be tested after reviewing there schedule but I'm sure head coach Jeff Charney isn't worried a tad bit. Instead of this being a rebuilding year after graduating 9 seniors this team is fully loaded with talent.
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on November 10, 2011, 04:06:23 PM
Post by: CityD3 on November 10, 2011, 04:06:23 PM
It's amazing how Charney does it, lose an all-american and they dont skip a beat..After reviewing other rosters I noticed Trey Black is back for St. Joe's. He played for Suffolk Community College in 07-08 (see link below.) I guess he didn't play enough games for it to count against his eligibility? I don't know the rules for transfers to D3.
http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_stats.cfm?category=stats&sid=6&divid=3&slid=2&collegeId=1457&seasonselect=391
http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_stats.cfm?category=stats&sid=6&divid=3&slid=2&collegeId=1457&seasonselect=391
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on November 11, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on November 11, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
Quote from: CityD3 on November 10, 2011, 04:06:23 PM
It's amazing how Charney does it, lose an all-american and they dont skip a beat..After reviewing other rosters I noticed Trey Black is back for St. Joe's. He played for Suffolk Community College in 07-08 (see link below.) I guess he didn't play enough games for it to count against his eligibility? I don't know the rules for transfers to D3.
http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_stats.cfm?category=stats&sid=6&divid=3&slid=2&collegeId=1457&seasonselect=391
All the teams in this conference cheat, so what difference does it make?
Title: Re: Skyline Conference
Post by: d3bballlova on November 14, 2011, 10:29:33 PM
Post by: d3bballlova on November 14, 2011, 10:29:33 PM
Yup. Just about every team that is in the top half of the Skyline cheats. The coaches cheating know who they are too. There should be an audit done on not only their recruiting methods but also their admissions qualifications. It is my belief that Some of the Skyline schools are getting kids in with the worst of grades just so they can bounce a ball. There needs to be a greater focus on developing young people not basketball players.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Billy Baller on December 07, 2011, 05:11:16 AM
Post by: Billy Baller on December 07, 2011, 05:11:16 AM
Farmingdale seems to be the top dog in the conference at the moment...7'0" center A.J. "why is not at a d1 school?" Matthews is averaging 26 and 16 right now through the 4 games he's played in...they've got some other decent pieces, nobody too big or super impressive but when you have a 7 footer who can play in the middle, what else do you really need? They did lose to Hamilton though so that was a sour note...the loss to John Jay was without Matthews in the lineup for some reason.
As for the rest of the conference: MSM, solid but not super impressive. MSV? Too small to do any real damage. Old Westbury isn't strong (they do have one or two very good players but won't contend this year). Interesting that St. Joe's is undefeated and won the East Conn tourni...they are playing a pretty much wing man game...everyone in their rotation is between 6'1 and 6'4"...no real post presence, just a lot of running and gunning and doing it well with guys who have played together for four years.
Purchase looked horrible against two better teams in Stevens Tech & Williams but has beaten everyone at "their level"...all new faces on their squad and will most likely add new guys in the spring (as most of these teams will). They are a real "wait and see" team: the matchup with William Paterson should feature any spring transfers they get: that will be the "legit" test for them moving forward as well as their matchup with Farmingdale & St. Joe's.
Team wise, Skyline not looking strong. Individually however, take the best 5 players from each position in this conference, you'll have a talented group.
As for the rest of the conference: MSM, solid but not super impressive. MSV? Too small to do any real damage. Old Westbury isn't strong (they do have one or two very good players but won't contend this year). Interesting that St. Joe's is undefeated and won the East Conn tourni...they are playing a pretty much wing man game...everyone in their rotation is between 6'1 and 6'4"...no real post presence, just a lot of running and gunning and doing it well with guys who have played together for four years.
Purchase looked horrible against two better teams in Stevens Tech & Williams but has beaten everyone at "their level"...all new faces on their squad and will most likely add new guys in the spring (as most of these teams will). They are a real "wait and see" team: the matchup with William Paterson should feature any spring transfers they get: that will be the "legit" test for them moving forward as well as their matchup with Farmingdale & St. Joe's.
Team wise, Skyline not looking strong. Individually however, take the best 5 players from each position in this conference, you'll have a talented group.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Billy Baller on January 08, 2012, 12:34:23 AM
Post by: Billy Baller on January 08, 2012, 12:34:23 AM
Farmingdale wins handily against MSV...they are just too strong for other Skyline teams this year. Close games against Hamilton & Randolph Macon but didn't have quite enough to get over the hump there...their other loss came without Matthews in the lineup so i don't really count that one.
Unfortunately, for this team to go somewhere in the NCAA tournament this year, it looks like they are going to need ONE more piece...their squad is good but not very deep and outside of Matthews, it's kind of unspectacular. If the only had one more explosive 6'4" type guy...a Lance Brown of sorts. Like I said, put Matthews on this years' WP team and WOW!
Unfortunately, for this team to go somewhere in the NCAA tournament this year, it looks like they are going to need ONE more piece...their squad is good but not very deep and outside of Matthews, it's kind of unspectacular. If the only had one more explosive 6'4" type guy...a Lance Brown of sorts. Like I said, put Matthews on this years' WP team and WOW!
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: 7express on February 10, 2012, 12:57:15 AM
Post by: 7express on February 10, 2012, 12:57:15 AM
Took the trip West on 84 to Newburgh after my class at Western Connecticut tonight, and saw St. Joes get absolutely steamrolled by Mount St. Mary. Even though the final was "only" 99-61, the closest the game was at the opening tip off; MSM was up 33 at halftime, and had it in the mid 40's for most of the game before a late SJ run got the margin under 40. If the Skyline wasn't a 1 bid league anyways (St. Joes would've been close if they finished undefeated and lost in the Skyline finals) it sure looks that way now.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: smorris12 on February 28, 2012, 10:33:33 AM
Post by: smorris12 on February 28, 2012, 10:33:33 AM
So, My boys (Albertus)are playing st Joe's, looks like BOTH teams like to run, they both played Yale within the past 3 years and lost but hung tough, athlectically they look even, askew is obviously a huge factor, I wonder how st Joe's will guard him, I think Dugas and Lora need 28 combined and AMC wins! St Joe's is actually a topic of conversation because they received an at large bid, that might fuel them, I hope not!! Good luck to both teams!!
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on June 05, 2012, 03:57:33 PM
Post by: SKYLINEBOY on June 05, 2012, 03:57:33 PM
Anyone hear anything about recruiting? Hopefully St. Joes got some new guys to replace to their seniors...Does anyone know if Matthews is coming back for Farmingdale?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 19, 2012, 07:00:43 PM
Post by: CityD3 on December 19, 2012, 07:00:43 PM
Amazing how dead the atlantic region boards are so dead. Looks like the skyline is SUNY's lose with the catholic schools, St. Joe's-LI and Mount St Mary's graduating their star players. Old Westbury impressive with their only two losses being Salisbury and NYU. Purchase and Farmingdale round out the top 3. Who gets the remaining 3 tournament spots?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: 7express on December 21, 2012, 12:38:14 AM
Post by: 7express on December 21, 2012, 12:38:14 AM
I'd go: Farmingdale, Purchase, Westbury, Mount St. Mary, Yeshiva and St. Joseph's (LI). I think they turn it around in January & February.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 21, 2012, 06:24:57 PM
Post by: CityD3 on December 21, 2012, 06:24:57 PM
Despite their win against Scranton, I think St Joes LI are both behind sage and mt st vincent.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: realone on January 11, 2013, 04:55:52 PM
Post by: realone on January 11, 2013, 04:55:52 PM
Has anyone paid attention to OldWestbury? They are 5-0 in the Skyline conf. 10-2 overall... They beat both Farmingdale & Purchase and are about to play a Division 1 opponent Cornell. They are now the top team and the team to beat in the Skyline conference. Anyone intersted in that conference should start paying attention.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 11, 2013, 05:17:07 PM
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 11, 2013, 05:17:07 PM
Welcome to the board -- it always helps to have someone here to talk about a team and put them on people's radar.
Title: AJ Matthews Scouting Report
Post by: jman3134 on February 16, 2013, 01:15:51 AM
Post by: jman3134 on February 16, 2013, 01:15:51 AM
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: WPI89 on February 26, 2013, 05:07:23 PM
Post by: WPI89 on February 26, 2013, 05:07:23 PM
Any Purchase fans out there? What are your thoughts about the WPI match-up? Your height scares the heck out of us.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: DMJSports on February 27, 2013, 04:19:56 AM
Post by: DMJSports on February 27, 2013, 04:19:56 AM
Here is an interesting look at how individuals impact a team's performance. The following analysis is not based on individual stats, but compares team performance with individual players in and out of the lineup. This is an objective analysis using actual data from every game played by Skyline Conference teams this season. Based on this comprehensive analysis, the following players are making the most positive impact on their respective team:
Farmingdale State: AJ MATTHEWS on the floor correlates to improving Farmingdale State scoring rate by 6.7ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 6.7ppg - a net gain of 13.4ppg compared to when MATTHEWS is out of the lineup.
Mount St. Mary: JOE STABACH court presence correlates to improving Mount St. Mary scoring rate by 15.1ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 1.4ppg - a net gain of 16.5ppg compared to when STABACH is off the court. DONTE HOWELL (11.2ppg) and RYAN STRAUB (7.7ppg) also make a strong positive impact.
Mount St. Vincent: SHAQUILLE CUNNINGHAM in the lineup correlates to improving Mount St. Vincent scoring rate by 6.6ppg and improving opponents scoring rate by 5.8ppg - a net gain of 0.8ppg compared to when CUNNINGHAM is on the bench.
NYU-Poly: STEFAN STOYANOVICH in the lineup correlates to increasing NYU-Poly scoring rate by 10.4ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 7.6ppg - a net gain of 18.0ppg compared to when STOYANOVICH is off the floor. JAMEL GIST (10.1ppg), THOMAS FABIAN (5.9ppg) and MARK ZIENTEK (5.7ppg) also make a strong positive impact.
Sage: MELVIN FORD on the court correlates to decreasing Sage scoring rate by 1.2ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 4.7ppg - a net gain of 3.6ppg compared to when FORD is off the court.
St. Joseph's (L.I.): EVAN MOHAMMED in the game correlates to improving St. Joseph's (L.I.) scoring rate by 4.4ppg and reducing opponents scoring rate by 7.5ppg - a net gain of 12.0ppg compared to when MOHAMMED is on the bench. KEITH ANDERSON (11.0ppg) also makes a strong positive impact.
SUNY-Maritime: RON BETHEA on the floor correlates to improving SUNY-Maritime scoring rate by 11.2ppg and reducing opponents scoring rate by 3.0ppg - a net gain of 14.2ppg compared to when BETHEA is out of the lineup.
SUNY-Old Westbury: TY MOORE on the floor correlates to increasing SUNY-Old Westbury scoring rate by 2.3ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 2.6ppg - a net gain of 4.9ppg compared to when MOORE is out of the lineup.
SUNY-Purchase: JUSTIN PERSON floor presence correlates to increasing SUNY-Purchase scoring rate by 6.5ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 6.3ppg - a net gain of 12.7ppg compared to when PERSON is out of the lineup. JOEL NERI (9.5ppg) also makes a strong positive impact.
On the lighter side, focusing on secondary goals (team stats other than the primary objective - outscoring opponents). Following are players making the most positive impact in these areas:
Team scoring: having DONTE HOWELL on the floor correlates to Mount St. Mary increasing its scoring rate by 16.5 ppg compared to when HOWELL is on the bench. JOE STABACH-Mount St. Mary (15.1) also makes a strong positive impact.
Opponent scoring: having CODY LOHSEN on the floor correlates to St. Joseph's (L.I) decreasing opposition scoring rate by 7.8 ppg compared to when LOHSEN is on the bench.
Team field goal percentage: having RYAN STAUB on the floor correlates to Mount St. Mary increasing its field goal percentage rate by 6.5 percentage points compared to when STAUB is on the bench. T-VAUGHN GIBSON-SUNY-Maritime (6.4) and JOEL NERI-SUNY-Purchase (6.0) also make a strong positive impact.
Opponent field goal percentage: having STEFAN STOYANOVICH on the floor correlates to NYU-Poly decreasing opposition field goal percentage rate by 9.9 percentage points compared to when STOYANOVICH is on the bench.
Team made field goals: having JOE STABACH on the floor correlates to Mount St. Mary increasing its made field goals rate by 5.7 per game compared to when STABACH is on the bench.
Opponent made field goals: having JUSTIN PERSON on the floor correlates to SUNY-Purchase decreasing opposition made field goals rate by 3.9 per game compared to when PERSON is on the bench.
Team offensive rebounds: having TERENCE HENDERSON on the floor correlates to Farmingdale State increasing its offensive rebounds rate by 4.6 per game compared to when HENDERSON is on the bench.
Opponent offensive rebounds: having T-VAUGHN GIBSON on the floor correlates to SUNY-Maritime decreasing opposition offensive rebounds rate by 7.4 per game compared to when GIBSON is on the bench. RON BETHEA-SUNY-Maritime (6.6) also makes a strong positive impact.
Team turnovers: having RON BETHEA on the floor correlates to SUNY-Maritime decreasing its turnovers rate by 8.6 per game compared to when BETHEA is on the bench.
Opponent turnovers: having OMARI TREBUSE on the floor correlates to SUNY-Old Westbury increasing opposition turnovers rate by 2.4 per game compared to when TREBUSE is on the bench.
Team steals: having PHIL CALIXTE on the floor correlates to St. Joseph's (L.I.) increasing its steals rate by 6.5 per game compared to when CALIXTE is on the bench.
Team assists: having JOEL NERI on the floor correlates to SUNY-Purchase increasing its assists rate by 5.0 per game compared to when NERI is on the bench. SHAQUILLE CUNNINGHAM-Mount St. Vincent (5.0) also makes a strong positive impact.
Team defensive rebounds: having STEFAN STOYANOVICH on the floor correlates to NYU-Poly increasing its defensive rebounds rate by 5.9 per game compared to when STOYANOVICH is on the bench. JOSHUA BAILEY-SUNY-Old Westbury (5.3) also makes a strong positive impact.
Farmingdale State: AJ MATTHEWS on the floor correlates to improving Farmingdale State scoring rate by 6.7ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 6.7ppg - a net gain of 13.4ppg compared to when MATTHEWS is out of the lineup.
Mount St. Mary: JOE STABACH court presence correlates to improving Mount St. Mary scoring rate by 15.1ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 1.4ppg - a net gain of 16.5ppg compared to when STABACH is off the court. DONTE HOWELL (11.2ppg) and RYAN STRAUB (7.7ppg) also make a strong positive impact.
Mount St. Vincent: SHAQUILLE CUNNINGHAM in the lineup correlates to improving Mount St. Vincent scoring rate by 6.6ppg and improving opponents scoring rate by 5.8ppg - a net gain of 0.8ppg compared to when CUNNINGHAM is on the bench.
NYU-Poly: STEFAN STOYANOVICH in the lineup correlates to increasing NYU-Poly scoring rate by 10.4ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 7.6ppg - a net gain of 18.0ppg compared to when STOYANOVICH is off the floor. JAMEL GIST (10.1ppg), THOMAS FABIAN (5.9ppg) and MARK ZIENTEK (5.7ppg) also make a strong positive impact.
Sage: MELVIN FORD on the court correlates to decreasing Sage scoring rate by 1.2ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 4.7ppg - a net gain of 3.6ppg compared to when FORD is off the court.
St. Joseph's (L.I.): EVAN MOHAMMED in the game correlates to improving St. Joseph's (L.I.) scoring rate by 4.4ppg and reducing opponents scoring rate by 7.5ppg - a net gain of 12.0ppg compared to when MOHAMMED is on the bench. KEITH ANDERSON (11.0ppg) also makes a strong positive impact.
SUNY-Maritime: RON BETHEA on the floor correlates to improving SUNY-Maritime scoring rate by 11.2ppg and reducing opponents scoring rate by 3.0ppg - a net gain of 14.2ppg compared to when BETHEA is out of the lineup.
SUNY-Old Westbury: TY MOORE on the floor correlates to increasing SUNY-Old Westbury scoring rate by 2.3ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 2.6ppg - a net gain of 4.9ppg compared to when MOORE is out of the lineup.
SUNY-Purchase: JUSTIN PERSON floor presence correlates to increasing SUNY-Purchase scoring rate by 6.5ppg and decreasing opponents scoring rate by 6.3ppg - a net gain of 12.7ppg compared to when PERSON is out of the lineup. JOEL NERI (9.5ppg) also makes a strong positive impact.
On the lighter side, focusing on secondary goals (team stats other than the primary objective - outscoring opponents). Following are players making the most positive impact in these areas:
Team scoring: having DONTE HOWELL on the floor correlates to Mount St. Mary increasing its scoring rate by 16.5 ppg compared to when HOWELL is on the bench. JOE STABACH-Mount St. Mary (15.1) also makes a strong positive impact.
Opponent scoring: having CODY LOHSEN on the floor correlates to St. Joseph's (L.I) decreasing opposition scoring rate by 7.8 ppg compared to when LOHSEN is on the bench.
Team field goal percentage: having RYAN STAUB on the floor correlates to Mount St. Mary increasing its field goal percentage rate by 6.5 percentage points compared to when STAUB is on the bench. T-VAUGHN GIBSON-SUNY-Maritime (6.4) and JOEL NERI-SUNY-Purchase (6.0) also make a strong positive impact.
Opponent field goal percentage: having STEFAN STOYANOVICH on the floor correlates to NYU-Poly decreasing opposition field goal percentage rate by 9.9 percentage points compared to when STOYANOVICH is on the bench.
Team made field goals: having JOE STABACH on the floor correlates to Mount St. Mary increasing its made field goals rate by 5.7 per game compared to when STABACH is on the bench.
Opponent made field goals: having JUSTIN PERSON on the floor correlates to SUNY-Purchase decreasing opposition made field goals rate by 3.9 per game compared to when PERSON is on the bench.
Team offensive rebounds: having TERENCE HENDERSON on the floor correlates to Farmingdale State increasing its offensive rebounds rate by 4.6 per game compared to when HENDERSON is on the bench.
Opponent offensive rebounds: having T-VAUGHN GIBSON on the floor correlates to SUNY-Maritime decreasing opposition offensive rebounds rate by 7.4 per game compared to when GIBSON is on the bench. RON BETHEA-SUNY-Maritime (6.6) also makes a strong positive impact.
Team turnovers: having RON BETHEA on the floor correlates to SUNY-Maritime decreasing its turnovers rate by 8.6 per game compared to when BETHEA is on the bench.
Opponent turnovers: having OMARI TREBUSE on the floor correlates to SUNY-Old Westbury increasing opposition turnovers rate by 2.4 per game compared to when TREBUSE is on the bench.
Team steals: having PHIL CALIXTE on the floor correlates to St. Joseph's (L.I.) increasing its steals rate by 6.5 per game compared to when CALIXTE is on the bench.
Team assists: having JOEL NERI on the floor correlates to SUNY-Purchase increasing its assists rate by 5.0 per game compared to when NERI is on the bench. SHAQUILLE CUNNINGHAM-Mount St. Vincent (5.0) also makes a strong positive impact.
Team defensive rebounds: having STEFAN STOYANOVICH on the floor correlates to NYU-Poly increasing its defensive rebounds rate by 5.9 per game compared to when STOYANOVICH is on the bench. JOSHUA BAILEY-SUNY-Old Westbury (5.3) also makes a strong positive impact.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on October 17, 2013, 10:05:41 AM
Post by: BubbaChuck3 on October 17, 2013, 10:05:41 AM
Hoping this board wakes back up for this 2013-2014 Season...
Who knows what each team has coming in?
A lot of teams lost a lot of their talent..
Who knows what each team has coming in?
A lot of teams lost a lot of their talent..
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 12, 2014, 04:06:32 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 12, 2014, 04:06:32 PM
Another episode of Hoopsville is slated for tonight... and Coach Jeff Charney from SUNY Purchase will be on the show to talk about the team at the midway point. Here are some of the guests lined-up as well:
Scranton's Mike Strong on win #800
Wellesley's Jennifer Kroll (Northeast Region)
Albertus Magnus' Mitch Oliver (Northeast Region)
#15 Virginia Wesleyan's Dave Macedo on win #300 (South Region & Coach's Corner)
#13 St. Norbert's Gary Grezesk (Central/Midwest Region)
We also have a major announcement to talk about.
Show starts at 7 PM EST and runs about two hours... and we may have time for another rant.
You can tune in here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2013-14/jan12 (http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2013-14/jan12)
You can also follow us on social media
- Twitter (@d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) and #Hoopsville)
- Facebook (www.facebook.com/Hoopsville (http://www.facebook.com/Hoopsville))
- Email (hoopsville@d3hoops.com)
Thanks and enjoy the show!
Scranton's Mike Strong on win #800
Wellesley's Jennifer Kroll (Northeast Region)
Albertus Magnus' Mitch Oliver (Northeast Region)
#15 Virginia Wesleyan's Dave Macedo on win #300 (South Region & Coach's Corner)
#13 St. Norbert's Gary Grezesk (Central/Midwest Region)
We also have a major announcement to talk about.
Show starts at 7 PM EST and runs about two hours... and we may have time for another rant.
You can tune in here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2013-14/jan12 (http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2013-14/jan12)
You can also follow us on social media
- Twitter (@d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) and #Hoopsville)
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Thanks and enjoy the show!
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on June 20, 2014, 04:03:27 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on June 20, 2014, 04:03:27 PM
For those who may not know... Purchase will be participating in the Hoopsville Classic on November 21-23. Here is more information and the pairings: www.d3hoops.com/notables/2014/06/hoopsville-classic-pairings-announced (http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2014/06/hoopsville-classic-pairings-announced)
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on April 03, 2015, 03:57:55 PM
Post by: CityD3 on April 03, 2015, 03:57:55 PM
Any of the rumors that the coaching staff at Purchase not returning have any truth to them?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on April 03, 2015, 03:59:11 PM
Post by: CityD3 on April 03, 2015, 03:59:11 PM
Any of the rumors that the coaching staff at Purchase not returning have any truth to them?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: gordonmann on April 03, 2015, 06:29:21 PM
Post by: gordonmann on April 03, 2015, 06:29:21 PM
Coach Charney stepped down last week:
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/03/charney-steps-down-after-frustrating-season
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/03/charney-steps-down-after-frustrating-season
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: CityD3 on December 31, 2015, 12:57:26 PM
Post by: CityD3 on December 31, 2015, 12:57:26 PM
Gonna throw something out to try to revive an absolute dead board: WIDE open conference this year! Sage still favorite but it seems like they have fallen back closer to the pack. Gonna be an interesting second half. 2nd semester additions/losses could be huge. Looks like old westbury didn't have two of their better players in most recent games. Any other news?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 03, 2016, 04:35:25 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 03, 2016, 04:35:25 PM
For the third consecutive year, Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) will air for 12 hours as the regular season enters the final four weeks. Dave McHugh will chat with coaches, administrators, student-athletes, and others involved in Division III basketball from around the country. Other guests will include those who have Division III roots or appreciate the division and the game along with the student-athletes who play the sport.
Hoopsville will air from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. (and maybe later) on Thursday, February 4 live from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can see what guests are scheduled, get more information, and watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb4
You can also read the press release about the show: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/hoopsville-marathon-2016
Here is the guest list as we speak. All times are Eastern and subject to change. Additional guests to be added if and when necessary:
We hope to get at least the full show on a podcast, or several podcast, during the on Friday. You can find it here:
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087
Don't forget you can always interact with us:
Website: www.d3hoopsville.com
Twitter: @d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) or #Hoopsville
Facebook: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
Email: hoopsville@d3hoops.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/d3hoopsville
And a reminder the Hoopsville Fundraising Project has begun yet again. Please consider helping us cover Division III basketball the way it deserves to be covered. If you can not donate, please don't worry about - we understand. At least share the campaign with anyone you think might be interested: http://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser/x/6029509
Also, if you know any advertisers interested in promoting their company or products on the show, send them our way: hoopsville@d3hoops.com
Thanks!
Hoopsville will air from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. (and maybe later) on Thursday, February 4 live from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can see what guests are scheduled, get more information, and watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb4
You can also read the press release about the show: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/hoopsville-marathon-2016
Here is the guest list as we speak. All times are Eastern and subject to change. Additional guests to be added if and when necessary:
| Time | Guest | School |
| 10:15am | Connie Tilley | St. Norbert (WBB) - WBCA Center Court |
| 10:40am | Jamie Purdy | Peidmont (WBB) |
| 11:00am | Keri Carollo | UW-Whitewater (WBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair |
| 11:20am | Brent Pollari | Saint Mary's (Minn.) (WBB) |
| 11:40am | Kent Madsen | No. 21 Wheaton (Ill.) (WBB) |
| 12:00pm | Russell Loyd | Rose-Hulman (MBB) |
| 12:20pm | Kevin Broderick | Nazareth (MBB) |
| 12:40pm | Justin Scott | Arcadia (MBB) |
| 1:00pm | Sam Hargraves | No. 12 Alma (MBB) |
| 1:20pm | Lenny Reich | Mount Union (SID) |
| 1:40pm | Maureen Webster | Clarkson (WBB) |
| 2:00pm | Betsy Witman | York (Pa.) (WBB) |
| 2:20pm | Sara Lee | Denison (WBB) |
| 2:40pm | Klay Kneuppel | Wisconsin Lutheran (MBB) |
| 3:00pm | Brian Van Haaften | Buena Vista (MBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair |
| 3:30pm | Sydney Moss | No. 1 Thomas More (WBB) |
| 3:45pm | Aaron Rousell | Bucknell (WBB) - former Chicago coach |
| 4:00pm | Tim Shanahan | Staten Island (WBB) |
| 4:20 | Pat Cunningham | Trinity (Texas) (MBB) - NABC Coach's Corner |
| 4:50pm | Bubba Smith | Sewanee (MBB) |
| 5:15pm | Ben Strong | Former Guilford All-American |
| 5:30pm | Kevin Connors | ESPN SportsCenter Anchor - Ithaca alumnus |
| 6:00pm | Kristen Dowling | Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (WBB) |
| 6:20pm | Allison Coleman | Sage (WBB) |
| 6:40pm | Landry Kosmalski | Swarthmore (MBB) |
| 7:00pm | Dave Niland | No. 23 Penn State-Behrend (MBB) |
| 7:20pm | Aaron Galletta | Lasell (MBB) |
| 7:40pm | John Baron | Gwynedd-Mercy (MBB) |
| 8:00pm | ||
| 8:20pm | ||
| 8:40pm | Melissa Hodgdon | Wheaton (Mass.) (WBB) |
| 9:00pm | G.P. Gromacki | No. 2 Amherst (WBB) |
| 9:20pm | James Wagner | |
| 9:40pm | HAPPY HOUR | Free-for-all of calls, tweets, and fun! |
We hope to get at least the full show on a podcast, or several podcast, during the on Friday. You can find it here:
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087
Don't forget you can always interact with us:
Website: www.d3hoopsville.com
Twitter: @d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) or #Hoopsville
Facebook: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
Email: hoopsville@d3hoops.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/d3hoopsville
And a reminder the Hoopsville Fundraising Project has begun yet again. Please consider helping us cover Division III basketball the way it deserves to be covered. If you can not donate, please don't worry about - we understand. At least share the campaign with anyone you think might be interested: http://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser/x/6029509
Also, if you know any advertisers interested in promoting their company or products on the show, send them our way: hoopsville@d3hoops.com
Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 10, 2016, 01:54:50 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 10, 2016, 01:54:50 PM
Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/10/first-2016-regional-rankings-released-today/
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2016, 06:56:48 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2016, 06:56:48 PM
The entire regular season has basically come down to this week: Championship Week.
Almost all conferences will determine their automatic bids to the NCAA tournament via their own tournaments. Those that haven't started already, will begin soon. And in a matter of a week, 87 teams on the men's and women's sides will know they are headed to the NCAA tournament.
Sunday night on Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh talks to some of the teams who hope home court will be their ticket to the NCAA post-season play. Each of the teams featured tonight won their regular season conference titles and need to win their conference tournaments to get into the NCAA tournament.
Hoopsville hits the air at 7pm ET. Tune in here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb21
Guests include (in order of appearance):
- Stacey Brunner-Jones, Concordia-Wisconsin women's coach
- Mike Ricks, Birmingham-Southern women's coach
- Bernard Tomlin, SUNY Old Westbury men's coach
- Mike McDevitt, St. Joseph's (Maine) women's coach
- Ryan Scott, Mid-Atlantic Region Report
You can also tune into the podcast(s) after the show has aired:
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087
Don't forget you can always interact with us:
Website: www.d3hoopsville.com
Twitter: @d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) or #Hoopsville
Facebook: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
Email: hoopsville@d3hoops.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/d3hoopsville
And a reminder the Hoopsville Fundraising Project is halfway to the deadline but we are not that close to the goal. Please consider helping us cover Division III basketball the way it deserves to be covered: http://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser/x/6029509.
Thanks!
Almost all conferences will determine their automatic bids to the NCAA tournament via their own tournaments. Those that haven't started already, will begin soon. And in a matter of a week, 87 teams on the men's and women's sides will know they are headed to the NCAA tournament.
Sunday night on Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh talks to some of the teams who hope home court will be their ticket to the NCAA post-season play. Each of the teams featured tonight won their regular season conference titles and need to win their conference tournaments to get into the NCAA tournament.
Hoopsville hits the air at 7pm ET. Tune in here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb21
Guests include (in order of appearance):
- Stacey Brunner-Jones, Concordia-Wisconsin women's coach
- Mike Ricks, Birmingham-Southern women's coach
- Bernard Tomlin, SUNY Old Westbury men's coach
- Mike McDevitt, St. Joseph's (Maine) women's coach
- Ryan Scott, Mid-Atlantic Region Report
You can also tune into the podcast(s) after the show has aired:
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087
Don't forget you can always interact with us:
Website: www.d3hoopsville.com
Twitter: @d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) or #Hoopsville
Facebook: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
Email: hoopsville@d3hoops.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/d3hoopsville
And a reminder the Hoopsville Fundraising Project is halfway to the deadline but we are not that close to the goal. Please consider helping us cover Division III basketball the way it deserves to be covered: http://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser/x/6029509.
Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 24, 2016, 02:17:55 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 24, 2016, 02:17:55 PM
Final public regional rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/24/third-ncaa-regional-ranking/
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2017, 01:14:19 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2017, 01:14:19 PM
In case anyone is following this page: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2017/01/both-coaches-ad-out-mount-st-vincent
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 25, 2017, 02:40:28 PM
Post by: Reserved Seat on January 25, 2017, 02:40:28 PM
Too hard to keep up with all the posts on this thread.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: jmcozenlaw on December 05, 2017, 02:50:28 PM
Post by: jmcozenlaw on December 05, 2017, 02:50:28 PM
Hello Moe........Larry........Curly.........
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on December 27, 2017, 03:27:06 PM
Post by: Greek Tragedy on December 27, 2017, 03:27:06 PM
Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 28, 2018, 03:12:08 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 28, 2018, 03:12:08 PM
There is a first time for everything. Right?
On Sunday's Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave chats with a number of programs who have never been on the show. All of them are in conference races and yearning to position themselves well for conference tournaments. Not sure any of them were expected to be in this position.
It seems to be a theme that's pretty common of late.
At the same time, one coach has been so consistent that winning number 600 almost seemed like a forgone conclusion, but a player she has on the team now may be one of the best no one is talking about.
And what to make, again, with the men's Top 25? And who will be the last women's team(s) to stay undefeated this season? Ryan Scott joins Dave to chat in the Top 25 Double-take segment.
Hoopsville is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch the show LIVE starting at 7:00 p.m. ET here: http://bit.ly/2GoBKlL
If you have questions, be sure to interact with the show on social media (see below) or email us your questions (hoopsville@d3hoops.com).
Guests include (in order of appearance):
- Jeff Gard, UW-Platteville men's coach
- James Mooney, Mount Saint Vincent men's coach
- Carroll LaHaye, Randolph-Macon women's coach
- Lynn Hersay, Smith women's coach
- Ryan Scott, D3hoops.com columnist (Top 25 Double-take)
If you enjoy the show via the podcasts instead, you can get access to them or subscribe one of the three following ways (click on the images when necessary):
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On Sunday's Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave chats with a number of programs who have never been on the show. All of them are in conference races and yearning to position themselves well for conference tournaments. Not sure any of them were expected to be in this position.
It seems to be a theme that's pretty common of late.
At the same time, one coach has been so consistent that winning number 600 almost seemed like a forgone conclusion, but a player she has on the team now may be one of the best no one is talking about.
And what to make, again, with the men's Top 25? And who will be the last women's team(s) to stay undefeated this season? Ryan Scott joins Dave to chat in the Top 25 Double-take segment.
Hoopsville is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch the show LIVE starting at 7:00 p.m. ET here: http://bit.ly/2GoBKlL
If you have questions, be sure to interact with the show on social media (see below) or email us your questions (hoopsville@d3hoops.com).
Guests include (in order of appearance):
- Jeff Gard, UW-Platteville men's coach
- James Mooney, Mount Saint Vincent men's coach
- Carroll LaHaye, Randolph-Macon women's coach
- Lynn Hersay, Smith women's coach
- Ryan Scott, D3hoops.com columnist (Top 25 Double-take)
If you enjoy the show via the podcasts instead, you can get access to them or subscribe one of the three following ways (click on the images when necessary):
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 07, 2018, 05:42:54 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 07, 2018, 05:42:54 PM
Men's first regional rankings this season: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 14, 2018, 02:03:02 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 14, 2018, 02:03:02 PM
Week 2 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2018, 02:44:15 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2018, 02:44:15 PM
The NCAA men's basketball regional advisory committees released their third set of rankings, and as expected, the Atlantic Region was among those getting shuffled. Here's the full list: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/men-regional-rankings-third
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
MAZEL TOV, YESHIVA!!
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2018, 03:21:17 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2018, 03:21:17 PM
We forgot to post this yesterday... or more realistically, didn't have time...
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The NCAA Division III tournaments are set. We know which 128 teams will be playing for the national championship. But there were some surprises, maybe some controversy, and certainly a lot of questions.
On a special edition of Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh was joined by Ryan Scott as they answered questions, tried to understand some of the decisions made, and pointed to some of the more interesting games to watch.
Dave also had a chance to talk more in depth about one of the big stories in the men's bracket, Yeshiva. Men's coach Elliot Steinmetz discussed the team's first ever conference title, NCAA tournament berth, and some of the scheduling changes that will take place to accommodate the school's religious background.
Dave will also talked to the men's committee chairs, Tim Fitzpatrick (Coast Guard Athletics Director), later in the show.
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The NCAA Division III tournaments are set. We know which 128 teams will be playing for the national championship. But there were some surprises, maybe some controversy, and certainly a lot of questions.
On a special edition of Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh was joined by Ryan Scott as they answered questions, tried to understand some of the decisions made, and pointed to some of the more interesting games to watch.
Dave also had a chance to talk more in depth about one of the big stories in the men's bracket, Yeshiva. Men's coach Elliot Steinmetz discussed the team's first ever conference title, NCAA tournament berth, and some of the scheduling changes that will take place to accommodate the school's religious background.
Dave will also talked to the men's committee chairs, Tim Fitzpatrick (Coast Guard Athletics Director), later in the show.
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Mike Rejniak on March 12, 2018, 11:25:21 AM
Post by: Mike Rejniak on March 12, 2018, 11:25:21 AM
Dear D3 Faithful ;D,
I have read many of your posts throughout the years and even met some of you in person, but for those who I haven't met, let me introduce myself: my name is Michael Rejniak and I have spent over 14 years coaching Division 3 basketball and love what our division has done and continues to do for the sport of basketball. One of the greatest things about Division 3 basketball is the brotherhood that we all have with one another (coaches and players alike). My wish is to showcase the talents of D3 on a national stage in The Basketball Tournament (TBT). You may have heard me speak about this on the Hoopsville Marathon with Dave McHugh of D3hoops.com (at the 6:11 mark). The TBT is a national tournament that is televised in July/August on ESPN after the NBA season is over. My goal is to put forth an all-star D3 team (current players are ineligible) and have them compete in this tournament to take on Former D1 / semi-pro's to prove that D3 deserves the same respect as other NCAA divisions. The team is mostly complete with former student-athletes from all over the country competing. Once the roster is complete we will be sure to release it through d3hoops. Former Babson College National Champion Matthew Droney '17 will also be assisting me on this journey.
While the end prize of this tournament is a monetary prize, being a D3-lifer, the goal is not the money (we all know that's not why we get into coaching), the goal is to bring an end to the stigma of Division 3 basketball, an awareness of how talented our student-athletes are and that we can compete (and win) against the best. We do need to raise funds for an entry fee, travel, meal and housing expenses for the athletes. In order to do this, we are conducting a crowd-funding campaign through GoFundMe to help make this a reality. These athletes need your support! Just think -- if every Division 3 school donated just $10, we will have raised over $4,000!!!! The link to the GoFundMe Page is below and please SPREAD THE WORD and email me with any questions/concerns at WeAreD3TBT@gmail.com. Thank you in advance for your support and Dave and I look forward to this "D3 Dream Team" taking the court this summer.-Mike Rejniak
I have read many of your posts throughout the years and even met some of you in person, but for those who I haven't met, let me introduce myself: my name is Michael Rejniak and I have spent over 14 years coaching Division 3 basketball and love what our division has done and continues to do for the sport of basketball. One of the greatest things about Division 3 basketball is the brotherhood that we all have with one another (coaches and players alike). My wish is to showcase the talents of D3 on a national stage in The Basketball Tournament (TBT). You may have heard me speak about this on the Hoopsville Marathon with Dave McHugh of D3hoops.com (at the 6:11 mark). The TBT is a national tournament that is televised in July/August on ESPN after the NBA season is over. My goal is to put forth an all-star D3 team (current players are ineligible) and have them compete in this tournament to take on Former D1 / semi-pro's to prove that D3 deserves the same respect as other NCAA divisions. The team is mostly complete with former student-athletes from all over the country competing. Once the roster is complete we will be sure to release it through d3hoops. Former Babson College National Champion Matthew Droney '17 will also be assisting me on this journey.
How YOU can help our former elite D3 basketball players
While the end prize of this tournament is a monetary prize, being a D3-lifer, the goal is not the money (we all know that's not why we get into coaching), the goal is to bring an end to the stigma of Division 3 basketball, an awareness of how talented our student-athletes are and that we can compete (and win) against the best. We do need to raise funds for an entry fee, travel, meal and housing expenses for the athletes. In order to do this, we are conducting a crowd-funding campaign through GoFundMe to help make this a reality. These athletes need your support! Just think -- if every Division 3 school donated just $10, we will have raised over $4,000!!!! The link to the GoFundMe Page is below and please SPREAD THE WORD and email me with any questions/concerns at WeAreD3TBT@gmail.com. Thank you in advance for your support and Dave and I look forward to this "D3 Dream Team" taking the court this summer.-Mike Rejniak
Support "We Are D3" In The TBT
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 22, 2018, 12:06:41 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 22, 2018, 12:06:41 PM
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The 2017-18 season is now complete. Congratulations to Nebraska Wesleyan and Amherst on their Division III national championships!
However, there is still some business to take care of ... we need to wrap up the season on Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com).
Tune in Thursday, March 22 as Dave McHugh is joined by a few guests as we look back at the Championship Weekends along with looking ahead at what should be a busy off-season and exciting 2018-19 season.
Plus, it what may be surprising to some and expected from others, we talk to the now-retiring Mark Edwards of WashU men's basketball. We chat about 37 incredible years and why he feels it is time to walk off the court for good.
Hoopsville is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch the show LIVE starting at 2:00 p.m. ET on Thursday in the video player above.
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- Gordon Mann interview with Emma McCarthy, No. 1 Amherst sophomore forward
- Max Pearce, SUNY Purchase Senior guard participating in the State Farm College Slam Dunk Championship in San Antonio
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The 2017-18 season is now complete. Congratulations to Nebraska Wesleyan and Amherst on their Division III national championships!
However, there is still some business to take care of ... we need to wrap up the season on Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com).
Tune in Thursday, March 22 as Dave McHugh is joined by a few guests as we look back at the Championship Weekends along with looking ahead at what should be a busy off-season and exciting 2018-19 season.
Plus, it what may be surprising to some and expected from others, we talk to the now-retiring Mark Edwards of WashU men's basketball. We chat about 37 incredible years and why he feels it is time to walk off the court for good.
Hoopsville is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch the show LIVE starting at 2:00 p.m. ET on Thursday in the video player above.
If you have questions, be sure to email them to hoopsville@d3hoops.com or interact with the show via the social media avenues.
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- Gordon Mann interview with Emma McCarthy, No. 1 Amherst sophomore forward
- Max Pearce, SUNY Purchase Senior guard participating in the State Farm College Slam Dunk Championship in San Antonio
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 17, 2018, 12:53:35 PM
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 17, 2018, 12:53:35 PM
Based on boxscores, Yeshiva's Turell looks pretty good. Yeshiva 0-2 after two close losses.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2018, 02:34:43 PM
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 17, 2018, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 17, 2018, 12:53:35 PM
Based on boxscores, Yeshiva's Turell looks pretty good. Yeshiva 0-2 after two close losses.
They played very poorly in a loss to FDU-Florham; Turell did ok in the second half. They played pretty well against Ramapo, up until the last minutes. Turell was running the point a lot for them and played much better, but doesn't seem to be settled in real well yet. Also, Simcha Halpert is not currently playing. I assume an injury, but I don't know for sure. That'll help things. They're a body or two short.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: hopefan on January 13, 2019, 03:16:39 AM
Post by: hopefan on January 13, 2019, 03:16:39 AM
Wondering why the Purchase - Mount St Vincent game scheduled for 1/12 was postponed? Weather in the area doesn't seem to be a factor???
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 13, 2019, 08:25:36 AM
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 13, 2019, 08:25:36 AM
Quote from: hopefan on January 13, 2019, 03:16:39 AM
Wondering why the Purchase - Mount St Vincent game scheduled for 1/12 was postponed? Weather in the area doesn't seem to be a factor???
some sort of HVAC malfunction. "temperature in the gym" was stated on CMSV Athletics Twitter. Too hot or too cold, that I dunno.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: hopefan on January 14, 2019, 10:22:36 AM
Post by: hopefan on January 14, 2019, 10:22:36 AM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on January 13, 2019, 08:25:36 AMQuote from: hopefan on January 13, 2019, 03:16:39 AM
Wondering why the Purchase - Mount St Vincent game scheduled for 1/12 was postponed? Weather in the area doesn't seem to be a factor???
some sort of HVAC malfunction. "temperature in the gym" was stated on CMSV Athletics Twitter. Too hot or too cold, that I dunno.
Caz +1 thanks.... when I see a cancellation/PP I always wonder and your mind goes to unfortunate reasons... bus breakdown, flu epidemic etc.. glad it's nothing more than HVAC
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2019, 04:16:40 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2019, 04:16:40 PM
Here are the first rankings for the men this season: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 03:23:49 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 03:23:49 PM
The second week Regional Rankings have been released: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 20, 2019, 03:39:00 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 20, 2019, 03:39:00 PM
The third public NCAA Division III regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 26, 2020, 06:10:42 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 26, 2020, 06:10:42 PM
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When it comes to the game of basketball, we love celebrating not only the student-athletes in Division III, but also those who help carry the game forward sometimes outside of the spotlight.
Sunday on Hoopsville, we celebrate those who have made the game of basketball, especially at DIII, so great. Coaches who continue to excel in different parts of the country and programs who play for more than just themselves.
Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch Sunday's show LIVE starting at 7:00 pm ET in the following ways:
- Main page: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville
- Show page: http://bit.ly/38E7YXi (or www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2019-20/jan26)
- Facebook Live Simulcast: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
- YouTube Simulcast: www.youtube.com/d3hoopsville
- Team1 Sports: www.team1sports.com/Hoopsville/
- Team1 Sports app (https://team1sports.com/) (Android TV, Amazon Fire, Apple TV, Roku) - you will either find it under the "live" section or search for the Hoopsville channel
Sunday's show primarily covers the Atlantic, Central, South, and Northeast Regions. All men's coaches appear in the NABC Coach's Corner. And all guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.
If you have questions about Division III basketball, feel free to send them and we will answer them on a the show. Email them to dave.mchugh@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options to the right.
Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
- Cameron Hill, No. 13 Trinity (Texas) women's coach
- Keri Carollo, No. 6 UW-Whitewater women's coach
- Damien Strahorn, No. 5 Colby men's coach
- Eliott Steinmetz, Yeshiva men's coach
- Ryan Scott, Top 25 Double-Take
If you enjoy the show via the podcasts, choose your favorite avenue to listen and/or subscribe via the the following four avenues (click on the images when necessary):
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville
We also have the podcast now on Tune-In (https://tunein.com/podcasts/Sports--Recreation-Podcasts/Hoopsville-p1153539/) and others coming. We will update them once we have better abilities to do so.
Don't forget you can always interact with us:
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When it comes to the game of basketball, we love celebrating not only the student-athletes in Division III, but also those who help carry the game forward sometimes outside of the spotlight.
Sunday on Hoopsville, we celebrate those who have made the game of basketball, especially at DIII, so great. Coaches who continue to excel in different parts of the country and programs who play for more than just themselves.
Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch Sunday's show LIVE starting at 7:00 pm ET in the following ways:
- Main page: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville
- Show page: http://bit.ly/38E7YXi (or www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2019-20/jan26)
- Facebook Live Simulcast: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
- YouTube Simulcast: www.youtube.com/d3hoopsville
- Team1 Sports: www.team1sports.com/Hoopsville/
- Team1 Sports app (https://team1sports.com/) (Android TV, Amazon Fire, Apple TV, Roku) - you will either find it under the "live" section or search for the Hoopsville channel
Sunday's show primarily covers the Atlantic, Central, South, and Northeast Regions. All men's coaches appear in the NABC Coach's Corner. And all guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.
If you have questions about Division III basketball, feel free to send them and we will answer them on a the show. Email them to dave.mchugh@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options to the right.
Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
- Cameron Hill, No. 13 Trinity (Texas) women's coach
- Keri Carollo, No. 6 UW-Whitewater women's coach
- Damien Strahorn, No. 5 Colby men's coach
- Eliott Steinmetz, Yeshiva men's coach
- Ryan Scott, Top 25 Double-Take
If you enjoy the show via the podcasts, choose your favorite avenue to listen and/or subscribe via the the following four avenues (click on the images when necessary):
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2020, 02:40:59 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2020, 02:40:59 PM
The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2020, 05:30:20 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2020, 05:30:20 PM
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And with that, the 2019-20 seasons have come to a sudden end.
What a week it has been in college basketball. Exactly a week ago, as we hit the air, the first signs that COVID-19 was going to impact the NCAA Tournaments was seen. Since then, it has been a whirlwind.
Tonight on Hoopsville, we try and make sense of one of the stranger finishes in history for NCAA events. What started with isolated closings of gyms for games ends a week later in all games being called off through the rest of the academic year.
We will chat with those who were preparing for games on Friday and hear their reactions to the seasons coming to a close so quickly.
Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
- Michelle Ferenze, No. 10 Whitman women's coach
- John Krikorian, Christopher Newport men's coach
- Cheri Harrer, No. 9 Baldwin Wallace women's coach
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Monday's show primarily covers the Atlantic, Central, South, and Northeast Regions. All men's coaches appear in the NABC Coach's Corner. And all guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline
All men's coaches appear in the NABC Coach's Corner. And all guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.
If you have questions about Division III basketball, feel free to send them and we will answer them on a the show. Email them to hoopsville@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options to the right.
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And with that, the 2019-20 seasons have come to a sudden end.
What a week it has been in college basketball. Exactly a week ago, as we hit the air, the first signs that COVID-19 was going to impact the NCAA Tournaments was seen. Since then, it has been a whirlwind.
Tonight on Hoopsville, we try and make sense of one of the stranger finishes in history for NCAA events. What started with isolated closings of gyms for games ends a week later in all games being called off through the rest of the academic year.
We will chat with those who were preparing for games on Friday and hear their reactions to the seasons coming to a close so quickly.
Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
- Michelle Ferenze, No. 10 Whitman women's coach
- John Krikorian, Christopher Newport men's coach
- Cheri Harrer, No. 9 Baldwin Wallace women's coach
Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch Thursday's show LIVE starting at 7:00 p.m. ET in the following ways:
- Main page: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville
- Show page: http://bit.ly/3b1XeU3 (or www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2019-20/mar12)
- Facebook Live Simulcast: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
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- Team1 Sports app (https://team1sports.com/) (Android TV, Amazon Fire, Apple TV, Roku) - you will either find it under the "live" section or search for the Hoopsville channel
Monday's show primarily covers the Atlantic, Central, South, and Northeast Regions. All men's coaches appear in the NABC Coach's Corner. And all guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline
All men's coaches appear in the NABC Coach's Corner. And all guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.
If you have questions about Division III basketball, feel free to send them and we will answer them on a the show. Email them to hoopsville@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options to the right.
Please also consider helping us out. We are accepting donations to the show - which many of you have asked about. The goal is to raise $7,500. We are approximately at $4,600 at the time of this posting.
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 18, 2020, 01:49:15 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 18, 2020, 01:49:15 PM
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Since March 2020, the NCAA and especially Division III has been on a roller coaster. A ride no one ever predicted or would want to be on. The ride is also not over.
Since March, many in DIII have tried to keep athletics going though through fall seasons the decisions had nearly everyone on the same page. Winter sports have seen more of a multi-pronged approach - depending on the institution, location, type, financial security, mentality, etc., etc., etc.
On this final of a trip of Hoopsville podcasts, we talk to a couple of administrators on the impact the pandemic has made on the division and their institutions. We also talk about different approaches each has taken when it comes to trying to have intercollegiate competition. And we discover why even with the best efforts to move forward, some things are not within one's control.
Yeshiva Athletics Director Joe Bednarsh and Amherst Athletics Director Don Faulstick give us their perspectives in what is a complicated world of restrictions, protocols, testing requirements, and more that are also always changing. Each institution has taken a different path, so far, but it doesn't mean their thinking is all that different. Find out how each is trying to ultimately help student-athletes succeed.
Another place the virus has made a significant impact is to the D3sports.com network (https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/12/d3sports-needs-your-help). Page views are down a whopping 93%! That ginormous decline has also hurt the financial future of the company (https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/12/d3sports-needs-your-help). Editor-in-Chief Pat Coleman joins us to discuss the extremely difficult challenge of keeping the websites up and operational and how asking for help from those who frequent the sites seemed like the best course of action.
Plus, Dave gives another in-depth breakdown of where DIII basketball sits in terms of a season ahead and especially possibility of NCAA Championships. And an update on where Hoopsville sits during an unpredicted challenge in front of everyone.
You can listen to the podcast here: https://bit.ly/2K7QIDp
Hoopsville broadcasts from the WBCA/NABC Studio. All guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline. We hope to start live, video, shows sometime in January.
If you have questions, ideas, or want to interact with the show, feel free to send them to hoopsville@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options available.
If you enjoy the show via the podcasts, choose your favorite avenue to listen and/or subscribe via the the following four avenues (click on the images when necessary):
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We also have the podcast now on Tune-In (https://tunein.com/podcasts/Sports--Recreation-Podcasts/Hoopsville-p1153539/) and others coming. We will update them once we have better abilities to do so.
Don't forget you can always interact with us:
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Since March 2020, the NCAA and especially Division III has been on a roller coaster. A ride no one ever predicted or would want to be on. The ride is also not over.
Since March, many in DIII have tried to keep athletics going though through fall seasons the decisions had nearly everyone on the same page. Winter sports have seen more of a multi-pronged approach - depending on the institution, location, type, financial security, mentality, etc., etc., etc.
On this final of a trip of Hoopsville podcasts, we talk to a couple of administrators on the impact the pandemic has made on the division and their institutions. We also talk about different approaches each has taken when it comes to trying to have intercollegiate competition. And we discover why even with the best efforts to move forward, some things are not within one's control.
Yeshiva Athletics Director Joe Bednarsh and Amherst Athletics Director Don Faulstick give us their perspectives in what is a complicated world of restrictions, protocols, testing requirements, and more that are also always changing. Each institution has taken a different path, so far, but it doesn't mean their thinking is all that different. Find out how each is trying to ultimately help student-athletes succeed.
Another place the virus has made a significant impact is to the D3sports.com network (https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/12/d3sports-needs-your-help). Page views are down a whopping 93%! That ginormous decline has also hurt the financial future of the company (https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/12/d3sports-needs-your-help). Editor-in-Chief Pat Coleman joins us to discuss the extremely difficult challenge of keeping the websites up and operational and how asking for help from those who frequent the sites seemed like the best course of action.
Plus, Dave gives another in-depth breakdown of where DIII basketball sits in terms of a season ahead and especially possibility of NCAA Championships. And an update on where Hoopsville sits during an unpredicted challenge in front of everyone.
You can listen to the podcast here: https://bit.ly/2K7QIDp
Hoopsville broadcasts from the WBCA/NABC Studio. All guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline. We hope to start live, video, shows sometime in January.
If you have questions, ideas, or want to interact with the show, feel free to send them to hoopsville@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options available.
If you enjoy the show via the podcasts, choose your favorite avenue to listen and/or subscribe via the the following four avenues (click on the images when necessary):
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville
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We also have the podcast now on Tune-In (https://tunein.com/podcasts/Sports--Recreation-Podcasts/Hoopsville-p1153539/) and others coming. We will update them once we have better abilities to do so.
Don't forget you can always interact with us:
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 12, 2021, 11:11:48 PM
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 12, 2021, 11:11:48 PM
Gang,
I'm a CWRU undergrad, so I already have one Division III alma mater to cheer for.
However, I just got into Yeshiva University's Cardozo Law School for a Master of Laws (LL.M) program in Intellectual Property Law, and will be starting that program in the Fall.
I'd like to start supporting Yeshiva Maccabee's basketball as well. What can anyone tell me about their prospects for next season?
I'm a CWRU undergrad, so I already have one Division III alma mater to cheer for.
However, I just got into Yeshiva University's Cardozo Law School for a Master of Laws (LL.M) program in Intellectual Property Law, and will be starting that program in the Fall.
I'd like to start supporting Yeshiva Maccabee's basketball as well. What can anyone tell me about their prospects for next season?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 12, 2021, 11:12:58 PM
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 12, 2021, 11:12:58 PM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 12, 2021, 11:11:48 PM
Gang,
I'm a CWRU undergrad, so I already have one Division III alma mater to cheer for.
However, I just got into Yeshiva University's Cardozo Law School for a Master of Laws (LL.M) program in Intellectual Property Law, and will be starting that program in the Fall.
I'd like to start supporting Yeshiva Maccabee's basketball as well. What can anyone tell me about their prospects for next season?
They should be contending for a national title. Enjoy!
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 13, 2021, 05:14:35 PM
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 13, 2021, 05:14:35 PM
Really??? WOW!!!
In that case, here is my dream for 2021-2022:
Case Western Reserve U. wins the PAC and makes a deep playoff run in football, AND
Yeshiva U. wins the Skyline and makes a deep playoff run in basketball.
Who would you say are the players to watch for Yeshiva?
In that case, here is my dream for 2021-2022:
Case Western Reserve U. wins the PAC and makes a deep playoff run in football, AND
Yeshiva U. wins the Skyline and makes a deep playoff run in basketball.
Who would you say are the players to watch for Yeshiva?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 13, 2021, 06:40:43 PM
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 13, 2021, 06:40:43 PM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 13, 2021, 05:14:35 PM
Really??? WOW!!!
In that case, here is my dream for 2021-2022:
Case Western Reserve U. wins the PAC and makes a deep playoff run in football, AND
Yeshiva U. wins the Skyline and makes a deep playoff run in basketball.
Who would you say are the players to watch for Yeshiva?
Ryan Turell is probably the best player in the country and Gabe Leifer might be the most skilled post player we've seen in a long time. There are lots of highlight videos online, you can definitely find them.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 13, 2021, 09:44:39 PM
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on May 13, 2021, 09:44:39 PM
Is the Skyline Conference considered to be one of the best in Division III?
CWRU's UAA is pretty good, as I understand, but CWRU is never a contender in that sport.
It'll be nice to have one DIII program to follow in football, and another in basketball.
CWRU's UAA is pretty good, as I understand, but CWRU is never a contender in that sport.
It'll be nice to have one DIII program to follow in football, and another in basketball.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: WUPHF on May 13, 2021, 10:16:49 PM
Post by: WUPHF on May 13, 2021, 10:16:49 PM
Yeshiva at Rochester is available on demand to see the team against a familiar foe.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 14, 2021, 06:52:29 AM
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 14, 2021, 06:52:29 AM
Skyline is definitely in the lower tier of basketball conferences. It's competitive, for sure, but the SOS is rarely that great. You're going to want to focus on non conference games.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: nescac1 on May 14, 2021, 11:46:58 AM
Post by: nescac1 on May 14, 2021, 11:46:58 AM
So Leifer is returning for a fifth year, then? If so, and with the addition of highly-regarded D1 transfer to last year's loaded team, Yeshiva seems likely to be pre-season number one, right? RMC (I think? who knows anymore) loses its all-American, and St. Thomas will be D1 next year .... Emory, Swarthmore, IWU, Tufts and Oskhosh all seem like top contenders too, but Yeshiva seems most worthy of the top spot, if Leifer is indeed returning.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 14, 2021, 03:38:01 PM
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 14, 2021, 03:38:01 PM
Leifer is planning to be back, as he is in grad school, but I suspect he'll have to wait and see what all the draws on his time might be. Buzz Anthony should be back at RMC.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: nescac1 on May 14, 2021, 04:05:27 PM
Post by: nescac1 on May 14, 2021, 04:05:27 PM
Thanks for the info. With Anthony back RMC is loaded too. Those seem like the top two ...
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 14, 2021, 04:13:51 PM
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on May 14, 2021, 04:13:51 PM
Quote from: nescac1 on May 14, 2021, 04:05:27 PM
Thanks for the info. With Anthony back RMC is loaded too. Those seem like the top two ...
Those are certainly the two we know (along with IWU). I suspect there will be other contenders emerge as we learn who's actually on what teams in the fall.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on June 15, 2021, 10:03:24 AM
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on June 15, 2021, 10:03:24 AM
@DagarmanSpartan — I'm the Beat Reporter for the Macs — follow me on Twitter @PoppersMacsLive for everything YU-related
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 13, 2021, 05:14:35 PM
Really??? WOW!!!
In that case, here is my dream for 2021-2022:
Case Western Reserve U. wins the PAC and makes a deep playoff run in football, AND
Yeshiva U. wins the Skyline and makes a deep playoff run in basketball.
Who would you say are the players to watch for Yeshiva?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on June 16, 2021, 05:32:56 PM
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on June 16, 2021, 05:32:56 PM
Thanks!
I'll follow you.
Looking forward to starting my LL.M studies at Cardozo Law School this Fall!!!
GO MACS!!!
I'll follow you.
Looking forward to starting my LL.M studies at Cardozo Law School this Fall!!!
GO MACS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: WUPHF on June 17, 2021, 08:04:57 PM
Post by: WUPHF on June 17, 2021, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: PoppersMacsLive on June 15, 2021, 10:03:24 AM
I'm the Beat Reporter for the Macs — follow me on Twitter @PoppersMacsLive for everything YU-related.
Plus, coverage of other Division III programs and a Top 25 poll.
Everyone on Twitter should follow @PoppersMacsLive.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on June 18, 2021, 11:55:32 AM
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on June 18, 2021, 11:55:32 AM
I appreciate that WUPHF! And DagarmanSpartan -- hopefully I can meet you in person at some games this season
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on October 15, 2021, 05:47:35 PM
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on October 15, 2021, 05:47:35 PM
Looks as though Yeshiva is #2 in the pre-season poll!
GO MACS!!!
https://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2021-22/preseason
GO MACS!!!
https://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2021-22/preseason
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on November 09, 2021, 02:37:56 PM
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on November 09, 2021, 02:37:56 PM
The Macs rolled to lopsided victories in their first two games. Home opener tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on December 03, 2021, 05:32:08 PM
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on December 03, 2021, 05:32:08 PM
45 straight wins..............Macs now ranked NUMBER ONE!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: deiscanton on December 04, 2021, 10:16:27 PM
Post by: deiscanton on December 04, 2021, 10:16:27 PM
Yeshiva now at 10-0, 7-0 in the Skyline. Macs get their 46th win in a row tonight with a 105-77 win over Old Westbury. The Macs have now finished their first half of Skyline Conference play and will take a break from conference action until January 26, 2022, when they travel to Mt. St. Mary.
The Macs return to non-conference action on Monday when they make the short trip to Brooklyn to play the Bulldogs from the CUNYAC. The two biggest anticipated games on this non-conference slate will be Yeshiva's final 2 non-conference games-- home games vs. Illinois Wesleyan on December 30, and vs. Williams on January 2, 2022.
The Macs return to non-conference action on Monday when they make the short trip to Brooklyn to play the Bulldogs from the CUNYAC. The two biggest anticipated games on this non-conference slate will be Yeshiva's final 2 non-conference games-- home games vs. Illinois Wesleyan on December 30, and vs. Williams on January 2, 2022.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on December 07, 2021, 01:15:11 PM
Post by: Greek Tragedy on December 07, 2021, 01:15:11 PM
Yeshiva beats Brooklyn 94-48. I suppose that's not surprising. But I found it interesting that 3 starters still played 34 minutes each. In fact, according to the PbP, Turell and Leader were still in there at the 3:39 mark up 42. Ouch. Seems unnecessary.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 09, 2021, 06:05:49 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 09, 2021, 06:05:49 PM
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For two programs this week, the number 25 is probably considered lucky. For many, it represents the bottom of a Top 25 ranking, but for those in the 25th slot ... it means they are ranked.
St. John Fisher hasn't been ranked since "Desperate Housewives," "Boston Legal," "The Shield," and "Fear Factor" where some of the most popular shows on television. The top movie was "Coach Carter." However, Coach Melissa Kuberka has gotten her Cardinals squad back into the rankings after a terrific start to the 2021-22 season. We talk to her about the team's success and how the rest of the season could shape up.
For DeSales, there were signs they were going to be good during the COVID season. Not all teams are able to duplicate that short-season success, but the Bulldogs are off to an undefeated start. Coach Scott Coval discusses just how good the team is and why we haven't seen the unit at it's very best. Plus, one can still break a backboard in today's game? DeSales found out it is possible.
Plus, Yeshiva is getting plenty of attention now that they have been ranked #1 in the D3hoops.com Top 25 poll the last few weeks. But do you really know the Macabees and their program? We talk to Gary Belsky who wrote an expose on the program for ESPN. It's a must read and a must listen to segment.
And UW-Eau Claire Athletics have big plans for future Blugolds and DIII championships. Introducing the $70 million Sonnetag Center. AD Dan Schumacher discusses the significant way UWEC could shift championships and even regional recruiting by 2024.
You can watch the show LIVE (or on demand) here: https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/dec9
Guests List:
- #25 St. John Fisher women's coach Melissa Kuberka
- #25 DeSales men's coach Scott Coval
- ESPN Writer Gary Belsky
- UW-Eau Claire Director of Athletics Dan Schumacher
Hoopsville broadcasts from the NABC Studio. All guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.
If you have questions, ideas, or want to interact with the show, feel free to send them to hoopsville@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options available.
If you enjoy the show via the podcasts, choose your favorite avenue to listen and/or subscribe via the the following four avenues (click on the images when necessary):
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For two programs this week, the number 25 is probably considered lucky. For many, it represents the bottom of a Top 25 ranking, but for those in the 25th slot ... it means they are ranked.
St. John Fisher hasn't been ranked since "Desperate Housewives," "Boston Legal," "The Shield," and "Fear Factor" where some of the most popular shows on television. The top movie was "Coach Carter." However, Coach Melissa Kuberka has gotten her Cardinals squad back into the rankings after a terrific start to the 2021-22 season. We talk to her about the team's success and how the rest of the season could shape up.
For DeSales, there were signs they were going to be good during the COVID season. Not all teams are able to duplicate that short-season success, but the Bulldogs are off to an undefeated start. Coach Scott Coval discusses just how good the team is and why we haven't seen the unit at it's very best. Plus, one can still break a backboard in today's game? DeSales found out it is possible.
Plus, Yeshiva is getting plenty of attention now that they have been ranked #1 in the D3hoops.com Top 25 poll the last few weeks. But do you really know the Macabees and their program? We talk to Gary Belsky who wrote an expose on the program for ESPN. It's a must read and a must listen to segment.
And UW-Eau Claire Athletics have big plans for future Blugolds and DIII championships. Introducing the $70 million Sonnetag Center. AD Dan Schumacher discusses the significant way UWEC could shift championships and even regional recruiting by 2024.
You can watch the show LIVE (or on demand) here: https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/dec9
Guests List:
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 19, 2021, 10:42:01 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 19, 2021, 10:42:01 PM
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We are now into the holiday break period for Division III. Some programs are playing occasional games or in tournaments/classic, others are taking extended breaks as they prepare for the conference grind starting in January. So time to take the temperature of the season so far.
On Sunday's Hoopsville, Dave McHugh chatted with a couple of teams garnering headlines around DIII. He also got the perspective of the season so far from those who follow it the closest.
And we take the time to celebrate the life of Mike Freilich, an assistant coach who died unexpectedly on Friday and has left many saddened throughout Division III.
You can watch the show LIVE (or on demand) here: https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/dec19 or http://www.d3hoops.com/x/lvmbp
Guests include (order subject to change):
- Polly Thomason, No. 18 Texas-Dallas women's coach
- Gordon Mann, D3hoops.com Senior Editor
- Gabe Leifer, No. 1 Yeshiva graduate student
- Ryan Scott, D3hoops.com columnist
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We are now into the holiday break period for Division III. Some programs are playing occasional games or in tournaments/classic, others are taking extended breaks as they prepare for the conference grind starting in January. So time to take the temperature of the season so far.
On Sunday's Hoopsville, Dave McHugh chatted with a couple of teams garnering headlines around DIII. He also got the perspective of the season so far from those who follow it the closest.
And we take the time to celebrate the life of Mike Freilich, an assistant coach who died unexpectedly on Friday and has left many saddened throughout Division III.
You can watch the show LIVE (or on demand) here: https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/dec19 or http://www.d3hoops.com/x/lvmbp
Guests include (order subject to change):
- Polly Thomason, No. 18 Texas-Dallas women's coach
- Gordon Mann, D3hoops.com Senior Editor
- Gabe Leifer, No. 1 Yeshiva graduate student
- Ryan Scott, D3hoops.com columnist
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Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on December 20, 2021, 04:44:22 PM
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on December 20, 2021, 04:44:22 PM
The upcoming matchup between #1 Yeshiva and #4 Illinois Weslayan could prove to be the D3 regular season matchup of the year.
GO MACS!!!
GO MACS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: thebear on December 20, 2021, 05:54:53 PM
Post by: thebear on December 20, 2021, 05:54:53 PM
Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on December 20, 2021, 04:44:22 PMThat is certainly a candidate. Although IWU's (61-71) loss last night to Washington U (9-1 UAA) takes some of the glitter off the upcoming matchup in the City.
The upcoming matchup between #1 Yeshiva and #4 Illinois Weslayan could prove to be the D3 regular season matchup of the year.
GO MACS!!!
If you put any weight in Doctor Massey his #1 UW-Oshkosh (9-1) and #3 UW-Platteville (11-0), who meet twice on 1/19 and 2/2 may also be in the mix for the D3 matchup of the year.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: deiscanton on December 31, 2021, 06:02:12 AM
Post by: deiscanton on December 31, 2021, 06:02:12 AM
In the first half of last night's game, Illinois Wesleyan put on a clinic. Absolute lock-down defense by the Titans, and everything went right for the Titans on the offensive side of the ball. Yeshiva took a pummeling, and if people saw Yeshiva last night for the first time in the first half and thought that Yeshiva in the first half looked more like Mount St. Vincent or any other Skyline team that would have been expected to lose big to the Titans in a match, I would not have blamed you.
Yeshiva made adjustments and won the second half by 6 points, and if the Macs had played more Top 25 competition before last night, maybe the game would have had a better result than it did.
Ryan Scott had the more accurate result of the game watching it live, and I did watch some other Yeshiva games this season to know that Coach Steinmetz could have done a better job in preparing the Macs for the physical style of Illinois Wesleyan than he did over the past week or so. As former NYU women's basketball coach and current NYU associate athletic director Janice Quinn would say (and did say in 2001 after the NYU women's basketball team got pummelled by Wash U at the Francis Field House in St. Louis); "It is a good lesson for us."
The scheduled game this Sunday vs Williams has been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19 protocols, so the Macs are now on their January break, and it is Skyline Conference play the rest of the way when the Macs return from break.
Even though I wish that the game would been closer, I did enjoy watching the pre-game festivities watching the MacsLive live feed, switching between Youtube and the JLTV simulcast (which was exactly the same thing)-- JLTV just turned on an automatic switch at 7:30 PM Eastern that switched the broadcast from the regularly scheduled "Bubbes Knows Best" to the MacsLive feed-- just like a machine switch would work on your local community access TV station. From my bedroom, I sang the national anthem and Hatikvah with the crowd and said a private Shecheyanu before the ball got tipped (a prayer thanking G-d for allowing me to reach this occasion.)
Yeshiva made adjustments and won the second half by 6 points, and if the Macs had played more Top 25 competition before last night, maybe the game would have had a better result than it did.
Ryan Scott had the more accurate result of the game watching it live, and I did watch some other Yeshiva games this season to know that Coach Steinmetz could have done a better job in preparing the Macs for the physical style of Illinois Wesleyan than he did over the past week or so. As former NYU women's basketball coach and current NYU associate athletic director Janice Quinn would say (and did say in 2001 after the NYU women's basketball team got pummelled by Wash U at the Francis Field House in St. Louis); "It is a good lesson for us."
The scheduled game this Sunday vs Williams has been postponed or cancelled due to COVID-19 protocols, so the Macs are now on their January break, and it is Skyline Conference play the rest of the way when the Macs return from break.
Even though I wish that the game would been closer, I did enjoy watching the pre-game festivities watching the MacsLive live feed, switching between Youtube and the JLTV simulcast (which was exactly the same thing)-- JLTV just turned on an automatic switch at 7:30 PM Eastern that switched the broadcast from the regularly scheduled "Bubbes Knows Best" to the MacsLive feed-- just like a machine switch would work on your local community access TV station. From my bedroom, I sang the national anthem and Hatikvah with the crowd and said a private Shecheyanu before the ball got tipped (a prayer thanking G-d for allowing me to reach this occasion.)
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 15, 2022, 03:48:02 PM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 15, 2022, 03:48:02 PM
Week 2 Regional Rankings - which are ranked now: https://d3hoops.com/notables/2022/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2022, 11:00:18 AM
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2022, 11:00:18 AM
The countdown is on! Ten more days until the regular season comes to a close and we find out who will be playing for the Walnut and Bronze!
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Thursday on Hoopsville, there is plenty to keep track of throughout Division III.
Hoopsville starts immediately following the NCAA Division III National Committee's announcement of the Top 16 "seeds" in both men's and women's rankings aired. We chatted with both national committee chairs, Michael Schauer of Wheaton (Ill.) and Megan Wilson of Luther, about the release, how they came to the decisions, and what they hope to inspire with the announcements. Plus more.
Then we talk to coaches around the country about their programs and how they are positioning themselves for conference tournaments.
Guests include:
Watch the show here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/feb17
Podcast here: https://soundcloud.com/hoopsville/1922-10-more-days?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
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Thursday on Hoopsville, there is plenty to keep track of throughout Division III.
Hoopsville starts immediately following the NCAA Division III National Committee's announcement of the Top 16 "seeds" in both men's and women's rankings aired. We chatted with both national committee chairs, Michael Schauer of Wheaton (Ill.) and Megan Wilson of Luther, about the release, how they came to the decisions, and what they hope to inspire with the announcements. Plus more.
Then we talk to coaches around the country about their programs and how they are positioning themselves for conference tournaments.
Guests include:
- National Committee Chairs
- Michael Schauer, No. 11 Wheaton (Ill.) coach
- Megan Wilson, Luther Associate Athletics Director
- Brendan Twomey, Farmingdale State men's coach
- Greg Mitchell, Hope men's coach
- Nick DiPillo, No. 17 Scranton women's coach
- Michelle Ferenz, No. 6 Whitman women's coach
Watch the show here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/feb17
Podcast here: https://soundcloud.com/hoopsville/1922-10-more-days?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 25, 2022, 02:43:05 PM
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 25, 2022, 02:43:05 PM
So is this the end of Yeshiva? Are they reloading? Rebuilding?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on January 25, 2023, 10:36:47 AM
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on January 25, 2023, 10:36:47 AM
The Skyline Conference is shaping up to feature one of the best battles in the country for an NCAA Tournament AQ.
3 teams (Merchant Marine, St. Joseph's-Long Island, and Yeshiva) have control of their own destiny for the 1 seed, and 2 more teams (Farmingdale State and Manhattanville) have control of their own destiny for their respective divisions and therefore at least a 2 seed. All 5 of these teams sit at 6-2 and these 5 have beaten up on each other.
Yeshiva has lost to FSC and SJULI and beaten MVille. FSC has lost to USMMA and MVille and beaten Yeshiva and SJULI. SJULI has lost to FSC and beaten Yeshiva. MVille has beaten FSC and lost to Yeshiva and USMMA. USMMA has beaten FSC and MVille. In out-of-division play--1 game which also provides a tiebreaker--the remaining contests between these 5 are as follows: USMMA and SJULI play on 1/25; USMMA and Yeshiva play on 1/29; MVille and SJULI play on 1/31.
Maritime sits at 5-3 and is in strong shape for a playoff birth. Their next 5 games are brutal though: @ Yeshiva, @ SJULI, vs. CMSV, vs. MVille, @ USMMA.
CMSV, at 4-4, is in good shape for a Wild Card (7 or 8 seed) birth.
St. Joseph's-Brooklyn and Old Westbury are both at 1-7 and in the seemingly stronger South Division, and are in major trouble. It appears that the final playoff spot will come down to one of Sarah Lawrence (3-5), Purchase (2-6), and MSMC (2-6).
3 teams (Merchant Marine, St. Joseph's-Long Island, and Yeshiva) have control of their own destiny for the 1 seed, and 2 more teams (Farmingdale State and Manhattanville) have control of their own destiny for their respective divisions and therefore at least a 2 seed. All 5 of these teams sit at 6-2 and these 5 have beaten up on each other.
Yeshiva has lost to FSC and SJULI and beaten MVille. FSC has lost to USMMA and MVille and beaten Yeshiva and SJULI. SJULI has lost to FSC and beaten Yeshiva. MVille has beaten FSC and lost to Yeshiva and USMMA. USMMA has beaten FSC and MVille. In out-of-division play--1 game which also provides a tiebreaker--the remaining contests between these 5 are as follows: USMMA and SJULI play on 1/25; USMMA and Yeshiva play on 1/29; MVille and SJULI play on 1/31.
Maritime sits at 5-3 and is in strong shape for a playoff birth. Their next 5 games are brutal though: @ Yeshiva, @ SJULI, vs. CMSV, vs. MVille, @ USMMA.
CMSV, at 4-4, is in good shape for a Wild Card (7 or 8 seed) birth.
St. Joseph's-Brooklyn and Old Westbury are both at 1-7 and in the seemingly stronger South Division, and are in major trouble. It appears that the final playoff spot will come down to one of Sarah Lawrence (3-5), Purchase (2-6), and MSMC (2-6).
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on February 14, 2023, 09:58:14 PM
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on February 14, 2023, 09:58:14 PM
Skyline update with one game to go:
Yeshiva and Farmingdale are tied at the top of the South at 12-3 and play on Saturday night @ Farmingdale State. Winner is the 1 seed; loser gets the 3 seed.
If Manhattanville wins on Saturday, they will be the 2 seed. If they lose and Maritime wins, Maritime will be the 2 and MVille the 4.
As things stand, Maritime is the 4 and Merchant Marine the 5, as the Mariners have struggled with Bryce Bristow hurt. They are tied at 10-5 and Maritime has the tiebreaker.
SJULI is locked into the 6 and CMSV is locked into the 7.
MSMC is 1 game up on Sarah Lawrence and SLC has the tiebreaker. If SLC wins and MSMC loses, SLC will be the 8; otherwise, MSMC will be the 8.
Yeshiva and Farmingdale are tied at the top of the South at 12-3 and play on Saturday night @ Farmingdale State. Winner is the 1 seed; loser gets the 3 seed.
If Manhattanville wins on Saturday, they will be the 2 seed. If they lose and Maritime wins, Maritime will be the 2 and MVille the 4.
As things stand, Maritime is the 4 and Merchant Marine the 5, as the Mariners have struggled with Bryce Bristow hurt. They are tied at 10-5 and Maritime has the tiebreaker.
SJULI is locked into the 6 and CMSV is locked into the 7.
MSMC is 1 game up on Sarah Lawrence and SLC has the tiebreaker. If SLC wins and MSMC loses, SLC will be the 8; otherwise, MSMC will be the 8.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: TheOsprey on February 14, 2023, 11:16:48 PM
Post by: TheOsprey on February 14, 2023, 11:16:48 PM
Hey Poppers, are you broadcasting the game or not possible because of away venue?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on February 14, 2023, 11:18:29 PM
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on February 14, 2023, 11:18:29 PM
We are planning to broadcast on MacsLive, although we have not officially announced as such as we work through some logistics. We will announce on MacsLive social media platforms when (if) it becomes official.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: TheOsprey on February 14, 2023, 11:31:14 PM
Post by: TheOsprey on February 14, 2023, 11:31:14 PM
Thanks. Excellent job all season. +k
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on February 15, 2023, 07:03:35 PM
Post by: Greek Tragedy on February 15, 2023, 07:03:35 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 25, 2022, 02:43:05 PM
So is this the end of Yeshiva? Are they reloading? Rebuilding?
So Yeshiva isn't dead yet! Macs playing for a #1 seed.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: TheOsprey on February 18, 2023, 09:52:04 PM
Post by: TheOsprey on February 18, 2023, 09:52:04 PM
Poppers-- what happened to tonight's game? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: stlawus on February 18, 2023, 09:57:46 PM
Post by: stlawus on February 18, 2023, 09:57:46 PM
Looks like there was a forfeit
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: TheOsprey on February 19, 2023, 10:31:08 AM
Post by: TheOsprey on February 19, 2023, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: TheOsprey on February 18, 2023, 09:52:04 PMNo need to respond. Saw the statement by the YU athletic director. Maybe there will be a make-up this week. Good luck this postseason Macs!
Poppers-- what happened to tonight's game? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2023, 10:32:52 AM
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2023, 10:32:52 AM
Hoopsville has a twitter feed on the game. Apparently Yeshiva was traveling after their sabbath observance and was expecting a 60 minute warmup on arrival. Farmingdale denied their request. Farmingdale is claiming a forfeit, Yeshiva that the game was cancelled. Conference commissioner should have stepped in.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 19, 2023, 02:55:57 PM
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 19, 2023, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 19, 2023, 10:32:52 AM
Hoopsville has a twitter feed on the game. Apparently Yeshiva was traveling after their sabbath observance and was expecting a 60 minute warmup on arrival. Farmingdale denied their request. Farmingdale is claiming a forfeit, Yeshiva that the game was cancelled. Conference commissioner should have stepped in.
I won't claim to know why FSC did what they did, but if YU was on-site and refused to play, then a conference forfeit is not unreasonable.
EDIT: Also it's irrelevant if it's a forfeit or no contest, Farmingdale is the 1 seed either way. Yeshiva had to win in order to flip that.
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: deiscanton on February 24, 2023, 07:36:02 AM
Post by: deiscanton on February 24, 2023, 07:36:02 AM
It is a moot point now, since none of the teams in the Skyline Conference are regionally ranked and only one bid is coming out of this league, but for what it is worth, the NCAA DIII Men's Basketball National Committee has treated last Saturday's Yeshiva at Farmingdale State game as a forfeit 2-0 win for Farmingdale State and a forfeit loss for Yeshiva and has recorded it as such in the won/loss records for both teams in the Region 3 data sheets.
The Region 3 data sheets coming into the Skyline conference tournament have:
1.) Farmingdale State at 18-7 (.720), SOS of .479, 1-2 v RRO, NCSOS of .555
2.) Yeshiva at 15-10 (.600), SOS of .512, 1-4 v RRO, NCSOS of .613.
And, FYI--
3.) Manhattanville came into the Skyline Conference tournament at 19-6 (.760), SOS of .468, 0-1 v RRO, NCSOS of .491
The Region 3 data sheets coming into the Skyline conference tournament have:
1.) Farmingdale State at 18-7 (.720), SOS of .479, 1-2 v RRO, NCSOS of .555
2.) Yeshiva at 15-10 (.600), SOS of .512, 1-4 v RRO, NCSOS of .613.
And, FYI--
3.) Manhattanville came into the Skyline Conference tournament at 19-6 (.760), SOS of .468, 0-1 v RRO, NCSOS of .491
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on July 19, 2024, 02:26:21 PM
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on July 19, 2024, 02:26:21 PM
Both Yeshiva and Farmingdale State have extremely strong non-conference schedules this upcoming season.
Yeshiva: Mount Union, Wooster, Springfield, Oglethorpe, Trinity CT, NYU, USJ CT, Wesleyan CT, Tufts
Farmingdale State: Drew, Ramapo, Baruch, NJCU, NYU, Wesleyan CT, Swarthmore, USJ CT Tournament
Yeshiva: Mount Union, Wooster, Springfield, Oglethorpe, Trinity CT, NYU, USJ CT, Wesleyan CT, Tufts
Farmingdale State: Drew, Ramapo, Baruch, NJCU, NYU, Wesleyan CT, Swarthmore, USJ CT Tournament
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on July 19, 2024, 04:52:17 PM
Post by: Greek Tragedy on July 19, 2024, 04:52:17 PM
So Yeshiva filled their open game?
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on July 24, 2024, 04:33:42 PM
Post by: PoppersMacsLive on July 24, 2024, 04:33:42 PM
Yes
Title: Re: MBB: Skyline Conference
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on March 04, 2025, 05:02:52 PM
Post by: DagarmanSpartan on March 04, 2025, 05:02:52 PM
All right, good job by Yeshiva. Won conference. Good luck in the playoffs!!!