He's lookin' like the real deal so far - in five innings, 4 hits and 8 Ks. Unfortunately, he also trails 2-1.
The OTHER game everyone is watching (Armando Galarraga's first start since his '*perfect game'), is just getting underway.
I guess Galarraga didn't want to test his ability to stay cool twice in a row - the lead-off batter for the ChiSox singled! ;) While he eventually made it to third, there was no further damage.
4-2 Nationals on a Dunn 2 run Homer and Willingham solo shot!!!!
Yeah! Strasburg struck out the side in the top of the 6th - 11 Ks! But I've read he is on a strict pitch-count of 80 (and is now at 81) so that may be it. Since he was still the pitcher of record, we'll see if the bullpen can preserve his first win.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 08, 2010, 08:39:25 PM
Yeah! Strasburg struck out the side in the top of the 6th - 11 Ks! But I've read he is on a strict pitch-count of 80 (and is now at 81) so that may be it. Since he was still the pitcher of record, we'll see if the bullpen can preserve his first win.
Makes sense, if he does come out, hope Nats bullpen can hold. Quality start for sure 8-)
6 Straight K's AMAZING young man!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!! Strasburg continued after all, and struck out the Bucs again in the 7th! 14 Ks.
This guy might be a keeper! ;D
In a way it would be a shame to remove him now, but I sure hope the Nats don't wreck his arm.
And his night is over. He certainly deserves the win, so I hope the Nats' pen can hold.
Anyone know how 14 Ks in a MLB debut ranks?
Name IP H R ER BB K ERA*
S Strasburg (W,1-0) 7 4 2 2 0 14 2.57
14 Ks no walks!!!!!!
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 08, 2010, 09:09:56 PM
And his night is over. He certainly deserves the win, so I hope the Nats' pen can hold.
Anyone know how 14 Ks in a MLB debut ranks?
3rd best according to commentators
J. R. Richards and Karl Spooner each had 15 in their debuts, but each of them had three walks (Strasburg had none). I'd call it the most dramatic debut in history!
In the other game, Galarraga is now done after 5 innings of 7-hit, 2-run ball. Despite his 2009 season, I was already a fan. But 2009 was such a disaster he started the season in triple A. Last week's game, with his calm response, made me a fan for life. With virtually any other pitcher or umpire, that could have gotten VERY ugly.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 08, 2010, 10:15:25 PM
J. R. Richards and Karl Spooner each had 15 in their debuts, but each of them had three walks (Strasburg had none). I'd call it the most dramatic debut in history!
In the other game, Galarraga is now done after 5 innings of 7-hit, 2-run ball. Despite his 2009 season, I was already a fan. But 2009 was such a disaster he started the season in triple A. Last week's game, with his calm response, made me a fan for life. With virtually any other pitcher or umpire, that could have gotten VERY ugly.
Jason Hayward and Atlanta Braves fans might disagree. :)
Quote from: sac on June 08, 2010, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 08, 2010, 10:15:25 PM
J. R. Richards and Karl Spooner each had 15 in their debuts, but each of them had three walks (Strasburg had none). I'd call it the most dramatic debut in history!
In the other game, Galarraga is now done after 5 innings of 7-hit, 2-run ball. Despite his 2009 season, I was already a fan. But 2009 was such a disaster he started the season in triple A. Last week's game, with his calm response, made me a fan for life. With virtually any other pitcher or umpire, that could have gotten VERY ugly.
Jason Hayward and Atlanta Braves fans might disagree. :)
My memory banks don't register this - you'll have to explain. ;)
I'll wait to get on the bandwagon after he has faced some rea ltough teams. Sure that is why they scheduled him to make his debut against the Pirates.
Quote from: szlongball on June 08, 2010, 10:56:10 PM
I'll wait to get on the bandwagon after he has faced some rea ltough teams. Sure that is why they scheduled him to make his debut against the Pirates.
I'm not putting him in the Hall of Fame just yet. :P
But against
anyone, that is an impressive start.
Any reason to diss the kid?
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 08, 2010, 11:31:03 PM
Quote from: szlongball on June 08, 2010, 10:56:10 PM
I'll wait to get on the bandwagon after he has faced some rea ltough teams. Sure that is why they scheduled him to make his debut against the Pirates.
I'm not putting him in the Hall of Fame just yet. :P
But against anyone, that is an impressive start.
Any reason to diss the kid?
Possibly the fact that we have had to sit through half a season of ESPN trying to get the Cy Young Award changed to the Steven Stasburg Award.
He didn't run out that ground ball. :)
I agree that he has been hyped unmercifully.
But is there any evidence that that is HIS fault? (Quite possibly at least partially Scott Boras's fault, but Strasburg's?)
And for tonight, it looked justified. We'll see.
Not really. Just hated how he held out to sign until the deadline, has Scott Boras as his agent, and got a ridiculous amount of money. Prefer guys like Drew Storen who signed the day after he was drafted because he wanted to start his career right away. Yes it was an OUTSTANDING outing tonight by Strasburg. But if you listened to any of the hype today, he could throw a no-hitter and get pulled because of his pitch count.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 08, 2010, 11:58:30 PM
I agree that he has been hyped unmercifully.
But is there any evidence that that is HIS fault? (Quite possibly at least partially Scott Boras's fault, but Strasburg's?)
And for tonight, it looked justified. We'll see.
You don't have Scott Boras as your agent and expect anything less.
Quote from: sac on June 08, 2010, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 08, 2010, 10:15:25 PM
J. R. Richards and Karl Spooner each had 15 in their debuts, but each of them had three walks (Strasburg had none). I'd call it the most dramatic debut in history!
In the other game, Galarraga is now done after 5 innings of 7-hit, 2-run ball. Despite his 2009 season, I was already a fan. But 2009 was such a disaster he started the season in triple A. Last week's game, with his calm response, made me a fan for life. With virtually any other pitcher or umpire, that could have gotten VERY ugly.
Jason Hayward and Atlanta Braves fans might disagree. :)
After he hit that first-AB HR, either the PBP guy or Orel Hershiser said, "We may be seeing the next Ted Williams." I started formulating my letter to the editor two seconds later.
Just hope that he stays healthy! Hopefully he has the conditioning, coaching/training, and genetics of a Nolan Ryan or Roger Clemens. If so, he could win Cy Young award early in his career.
He certainly will have his ups and downs early in MLB, but certainly looks to have the basics to be an outstanding young pitcher.
Best of Luck to him and the Nationals.
Also hope Jordan Zimmerman comes back healthy after elbow surgery. Nats will have some nice young pitchers 8-)
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 08, 2010, 11:58:30 PM
I agree that he has been hyped unmercifully.
But is there any evidence that that is HIS fault? (Quite possibly at least partially Scott Boras's fault, but Strasburg's?)
And for tonight, it looked justified. We'll see.
Everything I read about him (and, as a Washington Post subscriber, that's plenty) makes me think that he's a really nice kid, humble, with his head on right. I'm a fan already.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 08, 2010, 09:09:56 PM
And his night is over. He certainly deserves the win, so I hope the Nats' pen can hold.
Anyone know how 14 Ks in a MLB debut ranks?
Second coming of Bob Feller but Strasburg is few years older than Feller was when he started. Feller was only 17 years of age, he struck out 17 batters
Quote from: ECSUalum on June 09, 2010, 10:27:53 AM
Just hope that he stays healthy! Hopefully he has the conditioning, coaching/training, and genetics of a Nolan Ryan or Roger Clemens. If so, he could win Cy Young award early in his career.
He certainly will have his ups and downs early in MLB, but certainly looks to have the basics to be an outstanding young pitcher.
Best of Luck to him and the Nationals.
Also hope Jordan Zimmerman comes back healthy after elbow surgery. Nats will have some nice young pitchers 8-)
Things are heading in the right direction...read
HERE (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/06/jordan_zimmermann_on_pace_to_r.html).
Quote from: BoBo on June 10, 2010, 12:02:09 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on June 09, 2010, 10:27:53 AM
Just hope that he stays healthy! Hopefully he has the conditioning, coaching/training, and genetics of a Nolan Ryan or Roger Clemens. If so, he could win Cy Young award early in his career.
He certainly will have his ups and downs early in MLB, but certainly looks to have the basics to be an outstanding young pitcher.
Best of Luck to him and the Nationals.
Also hope Jordan Zimmerman comes back healthy after elbow surgery. Nats will have some nice young pitchers 8-)
Things are heading in the right direction...read HERE (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/06/jordan_zimmermann_on_pace_to_r.html).
Great news! I foresee the 'joke' Nats being contenders within 2-3 years.
"The recovery from Tommy John takes 12 to 18 months. Zimmermann has been ahead of schedule. Already, Zimmermann is throwing two- or three-inning simulated games and consistently hitting 93 and 94 miles per hour with his fastball."
Wow. Do you think if I had Tommy John surgery I could throw 93-94 miles per hour? That's impressive.
To my great embarassment, after I opened this thread I realized it is Stephen, not Steven, Strasburg.
Hopefully the thread is now corrected for future posts. :P
Looks like the correction worked.
To all those who didn't correct me, either thank you for not humiliating me, or shame on you for not noticing! :o ;D ;)
This isn't about Strasburg, but didn't know where else to post it and figured this was as good a spot as any.
Daniel Nava was just called up by the Red Sox from Pawtucket to play in today's game against the Phillies. Batting in the 9th spot he comes up to the plate in the bottom of the 2nd with the bases loaded, no outs, and the Red Sox down 2-1. He promptly deposits the 1st pitch he sees over the right field wall for a grand slam. What's amazing is his story of perseverence and how he didn't give up, until finally at 27 years old he gets his chance and makes the show. He has also doubled in his third at bat. Hollywood should be all over this story.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 10, 2010, 01:02:21 AM
Looks like the correction worked.
To all those who didn't correct me, either thank you for not humiliating me, or shame on you for not noticing! :o ;D ;)
Ypsi, No Worries, honest mistake, plus, we are not on the "Politics" thread ;)
Strasburg made his second start today - another very impressive outing, but he IS human! After 5.1 innings, he had yielded just one hit (albeit a solo HR); he then gave up a single and two walks (bringing his BB total to 5, vs. 8 Ks), and was pulled.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 13, 2010, 03:18:31 PM
Strasburg made his second start today - another very impressive outing, but he IS human! After 5.1 innings, he had yielded just one hit (albeit a solo HR); he then gave up a single and two walks (bringing his BB total to 5, vs. 8 Ks), and was pulled.
Only 1 human I know throws fastball above 100 MPH consistently and a change up at 90 MPH......Some though Superman was human too..... ;D
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on June 13, 2010, 06:15:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 13, 2010, 03:18:31 PM
Strasburg made his second start today - another very impressive outing, but he IS human! After 5.1 innings, he had yielded just one hit (albeit a solo HR); he then gave up a single and two walks (bringing his BB total to 5, vs. 8 Ks), and was pulled.
Only 1 human I know throws fastball above 100 MPH consistently and a change up at 90 MPH......Some though Superman was human too..... ;D
Not sure of the speed on their other pitches, but both Zumaya and Verlander of the Tigers consistently throw 100.
{I'll put this here, rather than resurrect an old thread.)
If pitching is your thing, check out the battle for Chicago! The Sox's Floyd and the Cubs' Lilly have a double no-hitter going after 5!! :o
The double no hitter lasted thru 6.5 innings. The Cubs broke thru w/ 2 hits and a run in the bottom of the 7th. The Sox were no-hit until the 9th. (Lilly must have exceeded his pitch-count, because with a no-hitter thru 8, he was immediately pulled after a lead-off single in the 9th.)
Final: Cubs, 1 run, 3 hits; Sox, 0 runs, 1 hit.
Soccer haters would have hated this game! ;D
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on June 13, 2010, 10:45:19 PM
The double no hitter lasted thru 6.5 innings. The Cubs broke thru w/ 2 hits and a run in the bottom of the 7th. The Sox were no-hit until the 9th. (Lilly must have exceeded his pitch-count, because with a no-hitter thru 8, he was immediately pulled after a lead-off single in the 9th.)
Final: Cubs, 1 run, 3 hits; Sox, 0 runs, 1 hit.
Soccer haters would have hated this game! ;D
Length of game -- 2:20
That was fast. You just get into your seat. You see great pitching and defense. The thrill of a no-hitter... You didn't have time to get bored!
After watching a bunch of Yankees Red Sox games, you're still 40 minutes away from the 7th inning stretch when the Cubs/White Sox game is over! :D
First time in 30 years that a game went no-no thru 6.5.
Perhaps to show how fluky these things are, the two pitchers were 1-5 and 2-6 entering the game! ;) [And 1-5 beat 2-6. :P]
Anyone who thinks they know baseball doesn't know baseball! ;D
By the time Bob Feller was Strasburg's current age he had 82 big league wins and had led the American League three years in strikeouts and two years in complete games.
Quote from: frank uible on June 14, 2010, 04:54:19 AM
By the time Bob Feller was Strasburg's current age he had 82 big league wins and had led the American League three years in strikeouts and two years in complete games.
Feller, born Nov 3, 1918, then enlists in the Navy on Dec 8, 1941 and spends the 1942-45 seasons on active duty.
And classily has never uttered a word of regret about how WWII carved the heart out of his baseball career when he was in his prime.
I was probably about 6 years old when I met Bob Feller and he signed my glove at a minor league game. I readily admit I didn't really know who he was. But I clearly remember by dad, who grew up an Indians fan, being almost speechless and trying to convey his admiration in the 15 seconds of face time he had with Feller.
That might have been the only time in my life I've seen my dad, a natural born sales/marketing wizard, at a loss for words.
Quote from: frank uible on June 14, 2010, 04:54:19 AM
By the time Bob Feller was Strasburg's current age he had 82 big league wins and had led the American League three years in strikeouts and two years in complete games.
Feller on Strasburg article
Click on link
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100610&content_id=11040890&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
My father grew up in Ohio. Was a big Feller and Indians fan and saw him pitch several times.. My brother-in-law has a picture with him as a young child sitting on Feller's lap with his grandparents and aunt in the picture. My wife's aunt lived near where the Indians held spring training in Tucson and entertained many of the Indians during those days. She may have been the Annie Savoy like in Bull Durham in those days.....
Strasburg still Rockin and Rolling in MLB for the Nats. Striking out a boat load of hitters to date. Looks to be the real deal to me!!!
He definitely looks to be a keeper. The only rap so far is that he's faced weaker teams so it will be interesting to see how he does when he faces some of the stronger ones.
Strasburg 41 strikeouts are the most in a pitcher's first four major league starts.
Not a bad start...plus he puts people in the stands which pays for the bonus money...plus his strikeout to walk ratio is already unreal...
Crash, Badger,
Excellent points re Strikeout to Walk ratio! Worth its weight in gold 8-) and...
Packing in the fans, creating new excitement for the team are ALLWAYS a good things ;D
The Braves should provide a good measuring stick tonight.
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on June 28, 2010, 09:41:14 AM
The Braves should provide a good measuring stick tonight.
Strasburg pitches 6 scoreless innings, but due to total lack of offense by Washington falls to 2-2 after getting roughed up in the 7th.
I'd deem him a very good pitcher on a very bad team.
It's impossible to win if your teammates can't put a few runs across the plate. I think he has the Mets next. Another decent measuring stick.
Nats dont score runs and dont play "D" so cant win
Strasburg record is 2-2 despite a 2.27 ERA and 48 strikeouts in 31 2/3 innings over his first five starts.
In the game against the Braves Strasburg was charged with four runs -- three earned -- in 6 1/3 innings, but he might have escaped unscathed if shortstop Ian Desmond hadn't booted a potential double-play grounder
There was another pitcher in Washington that had a great fastball but pitched for a lot of very bad teams that were a losing team for many years. That pitcher made it to the Hall of Fame.
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on June 29, 2010, 12:24:20 PM
There was another pitcher in Washington that had a great fastball but pitched for a lot of very bad teams that were a losing team for many years. That pitcher made it to the Hall of Fame.
Walter Johnson
Strasburg OPA is .216!! Keep it in this ballpark, and irrespective of what his batting mates due, he will have done his job.
Young pitchers should keep focused on having quality starts, and not worry about end result at this stage.
Strasburg likely to have Tommy John surgery :o
By JOSEPH WHITE, AP Sports Writer
WASHINGTON (AP)—Stephen Strasburg(notes) has a torn elbow ligament and will likely have Tommy John surgery, bringing the pitcher's promising rookie season to an abrupt end.
Washington Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo said Friday an MRI on the right elbow revealed a "significant tear." Strasburg will travel to the West Coast for a second opinion, but Rizzo anticipates the 22-year-old right-hander will need the operation that requires 12 to 18 months of rehabilitation
There goes the 15 million dollar investment....
Does anyone know if that delays his date for free agency? If not, and IF he comes back good as ever, the Nats are screwed.
David Clyde, anyone?
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on August 27, 2010, 04:28:29 PM
Does anyone know if that delays his date for free agency? If not, and IF he comes back good as ever, the Nats are screwed.
I guess he accumulates time served, but he's signed for 6 years.
Also 10 All-Star team members this summer have had Tommy John surgery in the past. In fact some feel like they come back throwing better than before.
More than 150 baseball players have had Tommy John surgery, the majority of them pitchers. Among active major league pitchers who have had elbow ligament replacement surgery
Read more:
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/feed/2010-08/strasburg-injured/story/pitchers-who-have-had-tommy-john-surgery#ixzz0xqRZb0JJ
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on August 27, 2010, 04:28:29 PM
Does anyone know if that delays his date for free agency? If not, and IF he comes back good as ever, the Nats are screwed.
So what else is new for the Washington franchise....
As a Washington Senator to Texas Stranger fan from the hapless Ted Williams Billy Martin Fergie Jenkins Gaylord Perry David Clyde days, it makes perfect sense to me.
The first "real" book that I ever read was the Reader's Digest condensed version (PG-rated) of
The Year the Yankees Lost the Pennant. I think that I was 9 years old. That version must have had all of the Joe & Lola hanky-panky taken out of it for my parents to permit my reading it.
Strasburg and Zimmerman
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/08/stephen_strasburg_probably_nee.html (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/08/stephen_strasburg_probably_nee.html)
Reread this thread tonight - brought back memories. :)
Strasburg is back (despite the controversial shutdown at the end of last season), and there are MANY now predicting the Nats to win it all this year.
Personally, I'm predicting the Tigers. Best starting five in MLB, and best 1-5 hitters. Though I admit I'm scared by their bullpen (or lack thereof :P).
Thanks Yipsi. You could say the same thing about the starting 5 of the Dodgers when healthy, and a better bullpen....however they said the same thing about the Lakers..... ::)
Really great to see MLB baseball start and the Astros beat the Rangers. :o
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 31, 2013, 11:43:59 PM
Reread this thread tonight - brought back memories. :)
Strasburg is back (despite the controversial shutdown at the end of last season), and there are MANY now predicting the Nats to win it all this year.
Personally, I'm predicting the Tigers. Best starting five in MLB, and best 1-5 hitters. Though I admit I'm scared by their bullpen (or lack thereof :P).
Strasburg is now 1-5. Some of it just plain bad luck.
Just checked his final stats. Only 8-9 (due to total lack of run support), but a perfectly respectable 3.00 era, and almost a 4:1 K:BB ratio. The Nats apparently also couldn't field this year: he gave up 71 runs, but only 61 were earned.
He'll be starting game 1 of the NLDS vs. the Giants or Pirates on Friday. Jordan Zimmermann (UWSP guy!) goes game 2, Doug Fister game 3 and Gio Gonzalez games game 4 if there is a game 5. if there's a game 5 in DC that'll be between Strasburg & Zimmermann.
I still have nightmares of that 9th inning of game 5, but they were just happy to be there. Expecting a deep, run in October. Would like to win the World Series this year, but at least we get most of the key pieces back for next year so as long as we get out of the NLDS I'll take that expierence into next year.