There will be 2 games between the ECFC, MASCAC, CCC and NEWMAC conferences.
Right now, there's a race btw WNE and Curry for the CCC title and Pool A.
MASCAC is equally jammed with Plymouth St, West Conn and Fram State still in contention.
ECFC is basically Husson's if/when they win this weekend, with SUNY-Maritime likely finishing 9-1. They have also filed for an ECAC and in theory could opt for that given past experience and that DE is closer to Long Island. Or they'd be the host team to say, the CCC runner-up, if that ends up being an 8-2 Curry team, for example.
I think the NEWMAC rep is probably WPI, but that'll depend on if MIT can somehow upset SC in Wk 11. Not sure I see anyone doing that so, sticking with WPI as my pick from this conf, with a final 8-2 record.
I really like this New England Bowl, anything for some extra ball..
Are these games locked in to having representation from each conference? Or can multiple teams from, say the MASCAC make it and no ECFC team (assuming SUNY goes ECAC).
I believe it's one from each, but no requirement on which conference plays which.
My best guesses for now are:
CCC - Salve / Curry winner
NEWMAC - WPI (sorry MIT, don't see you beating SC)
ECFC - SUNY M (could be interesting to see a Strong Island school host a "New England" bowl game)
MASCAC - Fram St (don't see them losing but Woo St won't be an easy win)
Quote from: meadowdale on November 03, 2017, 05:13:37 PM
I really like this New England Bowl, anything for some extra ball..
Don't get me wrong, I like the New England Bowl and what it brings to the area. However, other than a few teams, we do this in the beginning of the season. I would rather play some NY Schools or those NJAC/PAC schools at the neutral site locations.
Quote from: D3MAFAN on November 10, 2017, 09:57:03 AM
Quote from: meadowdale on November 03, 2017, 05:13:37 PM
I really like this New England Bowl, anything for some extra ball..
Don't get me wrong, I like the New England Bowl and what it brings to the area. However, other than a few teams, we do this in the beginning of the season. I would rather play some NY Schools or those NJAC/PAC schools at the neutral site locations.
You might be on to something there..
The New England schools asked the ECAC to stop matching them up with the NY schools some years back. I don't think the schools really want to go back to that framework, all things considered.
If the New England Bowls don't really count..Are they gonna make them a invite or based on record?
Pretty sure i know the answer, which should lead to almost the same teams every year given my initial
glance at past records..
Either way i will enjoy watching every one...
Curry at FSU and SUNY at WPI are the two NE Bowls. KO for both is at noon.
WPI game will be at 6pm
Quote from: ITH radio on November 13, 2017, 10:03:29 AM
Curry at FSU and SUNY at WPI are the two NE Bowls. KO for both is at noon.
WPI game will be at 6pm
I actually like the matchup for both teams. I think that Curry was very close from being 9-1 and has played some good teams this year. I look forward to talk about this game as we get closer.
Pretty nice matchups. A 9-win team vs. an 8-win team in both games.
Framingham is in the regional ranking and Curry was in the regional ranking a couple of weeks ago. SUNY Maritime and WPI having their best years in quite a while.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 10, 2017, 06:42:29 PM
The New England schools asked the ECAC to stop matching them up with the NY schools some years back. I don't think the schools really want to go back to that framework, all things considered.
Why not? Travel distances?
-Ski
Quote from: Teamski on November 13, 2017, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 10, 2017, 06:42:29 PM
The New England schools asked the ECAC to stop matching them up with the NY schools some years back. I don't think the schools really want to go back to that framework, all things considered.
Why not? Travel distances?
-Ski
Inability to be competitive.
I think if this was 5 to 10 year's ago, it would make since. However, so many teams have made strides to get out of that notion of being inferior. It takes time to build a program, but not playing them won't help, it only indicates that you are happy with being just okay in your own little bubble.
Now, I do think Curry is good matchup this year for us. I believe the game is going to be decided in the 4th. Hopefully, sooner than two weeks ago.
How many of them are playing teams outside of New England in non-conference games. No doubt there are a few, but there aren't many.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 13, 2017, 06:27:05 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 13, 2017, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 10, 2017, 06:42:29 PM
The New England schools asked the ECAC to stop matching them up with the NY schools some years back. I don't think the schools really want to go back to that framework, all things considered.
Why not? Travel distances?
-Ski
Inability to be competitive.
It was probably the 2002 ECAC games that pushed that...
3 NY teams beat 3 NE teams by a combined score of 154-50...
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2017, 07:19:52 PM
How many of them are playing teams outside of New England in non-conference games. No doubt there are a few, but there aren't many.
This year OOC....
Framingham played Cortland
Bridgewater State played Buffalo State
Western Connecticut played Hartwick
Norwhich played Morrisville, St. Lawerance
Springfield played Kean
Coast Guard played Union
WPI played RPI
Becker played Rochester
WNEC played St. Lawerence and RPI
Salve played Monclair
Endicott played Hobart
Curry played Union
Husson played Union
Galladuet played Shenandoah
Just to name a few, but there are more.
Quote from: The_MASCACman on November 15, 2017, 09:17:21 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2017, 07:19:52 PM
How many of them are playing teams outside of New England in non-conference games. No doubt there are a few, but there aren't many.
This year OOC....
Framingham played Cortland
Bridgewater State played Buffalo State
Western Connecticut played Hartwick
Norwhich played Morrisville, St. Lawerance
Springfield played Kean
Coast Guard played Union
WPI played RPI
Becker played Rochester
WNEC played St. Lawerence and RPI
Salve played Monclair
Endicott played Hobart
Curry played Union
Husson played Union
Galladuet played Shenandoah
Just to name a few, but there are more.
That's quite a lot. I think teams try to be reasonable in their scheduling and not go overboard. I would be up for MASCAC/E 8 or MASCAC/LL Challenge or even a MASCAC/NJAC challenge. It would only make us better, but we have to win those games. We won 6 out of 16 games. We have to continue to improve.
Framingham played Cortland Won by 15
Bridgewater State played
Buffalo State Lost by 1
Western Connecticut played Hartwick Won by 1
Norwich played
Morrisville,
St. Lawrence Loss by 14 and 7
Springfield played Kean Won by 20
Coast Guard played
Union Lost by 15
WPI played
RPI Lost by 22
Becker played
Rochester Lost by 18
WNEC played St. Lawerence and
RPI Won by 3 and Lost by 17, respectively.
Salve played Monclair Won by 6
Endicott played
Hobart Lost by 17
Curry played
Union Lost by 3
Husson played Union Won by 13
Galladuet played
Shenandoah Lost by 26
One trend that stands out when looking at that list of New England teams that venture out of New England for OOC games is that the vast majority of them are private schools. (Fram, BSU and WConn being the exceptions),
I imagine it is hard for a head coach of a public school to convince his AD that it's "worth it" to pay for an overnight trip to play an OOC game in NY or NJ. With so many local D3 teams in New England it's very rare to find an open date that cannot be filled by another New England team.
As much as we'd all love to see more NE teams venture out of the area for games, the almighty dollar reins supreme in most cases.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 13, 2017, 06:27:05 PM
Quote from: Teamski on November 13, 2017, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 10, 2017, 06:42:29 PM
The New England schools asked the ECAC to stop matching them up with the NY schools some years back. I don't think the schools really want to go back to that framework, all things considered.
Why not? Travel distances?
-Ski
Inability to be competitive.
Ten or fifteen years ago New England teams were definitely not competitive with the top teams in the rest of the region. We all concede that. A number of New England teams have elevated their programs since then...WNE, Curry, Husson and Framingham for example. Others have returned to New England leagues from playing in other "bigger' conferences...W.Conn., WPI and Springfield come to mind. The success of Springfield, WPI and USMMA this fall indicate that their participation in the Liberty League has prepared them to dominate the NEWMAC. In the meantime there are many new programs in New England and of course you have the NESCAC. With more D3 teams and fewer high school kids playing football it will be harder and harder for New England schools to recruit enough top notch talent to elevate themselves to the level of a Wesley, Del. Vly or even Ithaca. Maybe the four (five with NESCAC) New England leagues won't challenge for Eastern supremacy anytime soon but their best can certainly play with anyone in the East...just maybe not win yet.
Haven't heard much on these but here's a projection:
CCC - WNE goes if END wins over SALVE (I think the Gulls will get the Pool A)
ECFC - SUNY-M back for a 2nd year in a row as the ECFC rep
NEW - Winner of MIT vs. SC game
MAS - WCT
USMMA at Endicott
Salve Regina at Bridgewater State
Maritime at Springfield
http://www.easterncollegiatefootball.com/general/2018-19/releases/20181112f3bfl2
The 2019 New England Bowls are set.
Dean at Endicott
WestConn at WPI
http://www.easterncollegiatefootball.com/sports/fball/2019-20/releases/20191118iaciiz
https://www.cccathletics.com/sports/fball/2019-20/releases/2019NEBowlAnnouncement
https://www.newmacsports.com/sports/fball/2019-20/releases/20191118ftw6dj
https://mascac.com/sports/fball/2019-20/releases/NE_Bowl_Series
Confirmed the NE Bowls are happening. Based on the below, my best guesses are:
CCC - If Husson beats WNE, they go. If WNE wins, Salve.
ECFC - Probably Alfred State which isn't exactly "New England" but neither is Gallaudet...
MAS - UMass-D (probably a host)
NEW - USMMA assuming SC beats CUA
Based on that, let's say SAL vs. UMD and ASU (bc they beat GAL h2h) vs. USMMA are the games...?