https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/basketball/d3/men/2022-23D3MBB_PreChampManual.pdf
In case you missed it or lost the link, like me, the manual came out.
Here are some important tournament related dates.
Tues. Feb 7 - 1st regional rankings
Tues. Feb 14 - 2nd regional rankings
Tues. Feb 21 - 3rd regional rankings
Sun. Feb 26 - 4th regional rankings (not public?)
Mon. Feb 27 - selection show/bracket release
Fri./Sat. March 3/4 - 1st and 2nd rounds
Fri./Sat. March 10/11 - 3rd and 4th rounds
Thurs.-Sat. March 16-18 - Semifinals and Final
In case you didn't catch that last line...the semis will be on Thursday and the final on Saturday.
I have a real big complaint with the Final Four scheduling. For someone who still works, it's a big inconvenience to add another day when it comes to missing work, scheduling vacation, booking another night in a hotel etc.
I really feel that Friday is a wasted day for the casual fan. I'm curious to find out what the NCAA has in store for the traveling fans. Is the all-star game going to be moved to Friday? Maybe they'll re-introduce the 3rd place game to fill time.
I really don't buy the "the players need the extra day because it's the national championship game" argument. Players have to play back-to-back games on consecutive weekends to get to the Final Four. Several conferences regularly play back-to-back nights during the season. Many conference tournaments require back-to-back nights. These games are just as important because usually it's "lose and you done".
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 10, 2023, 12:31:35 PM
I have a real big complaint with the Final Four scheduling. For someone who still works, it's a big inconvenience to add another day when it comes to missing work, scheduling vacation, booking another night in a hotel etc.
I really feel that Friday is a wasted day for the casual fan. I'm curious to find out what the NCAA has in store for the traveling fans. Is the all-star game going to be moved to Friday? Maybe they'll re-introduce the 3rd place game to fill time.
I really don't buy the "the players need the extra day because it's the national championship game" argument. Players have to play back-to-back games on consecutive weekends to get to the Final Four. Several conferences regularly play back-to-back nights during the season. Many conference tournaments require back-to-back nights. These games are just as important because usually it's "lose and you done".
Not to mention it's an extra day away from classes.
Something else that doesn't relate to this year but listed for 2026 is another stretched out tournament. I'm sure it's some celebration thing where they're doing all the finals together but you know years in advance you're doing it so adjust when the season ends so it's not so terrible.
2026
Round 1/2 March 6-7
Round 3 March 13-14
QF/SF March 20-21
Final April 5
Make the end of the season a couple weeks later and conferences can stretch out their tournaments with fewer weekday games or take a midseason gamedate away from a weekday and move it to a later weekend during the season. So many better ways to handle the later final than what the NCAA chooses.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 10, 2023, 12:18:23 PM
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/basketball/d3/men/2022-23D3MBB_PreChampManual.pdf
In case you missed it or lost the link, like me, the manual came out.
Here are some important tournament related dates.
Tues. Feb 7 - 1st regional rankings
Tues. Feb 14 - 2nd regional rankings
Tues. Feb 21 - 3rd regional rankings
Sun. Feb 26 - 4th regional rankings (not public?)
Mon. Feb 27 - selection show/bracket release
Fri./Sat. March 3/4 - 1st and 2nd rounds
Fri./Sat. March 10/11 - 3rd and 4th rounds
Thurs.-Sat. March 16-18 - Semifinals and Final
In case you didn't catch that last line...the semis will be on Thursday and the final on Saturday.
Is there a link for the women's version? They're having a different schedule for the 2nd and 3rd weeks, if I remember correctly.
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on January 10, 2023, 01:38:37 PM
Not to mention it's an extra day away from classes.
This is the thing. There are schools that might be in their fourth week of postseason play at that point. No reason to bring them in a day early for two days of play.
Quote from: ronk on January 10, 2023, 03:53:43 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 10, 2023, 12:18:23 PM
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/basketball/d3/men/2022-23D3MBB_PreChampManual.pdf
In case you missed it or lost the link, like me, the manual came out.
Here are some important tournament related dates.
Tues. Feb 7 - 1st regional rankings
Tues. Feb 14 - 2nd regional rankings
Tues. Feb 21 - 3rd regional rankings
Sun. Feb 26 - 4th regional rankings (not public?)
Mon. Feb 27 - selection show/bracket release
Fri./Sat. March 3/4 - 1st and 2nd rounds
Fri./Sat. March 10/11 - 3rd and 4th rounds
Thurs.-Sat. March 16-18 - Semifinals and Final
In case you didn't catch that last line...the semis will be on Thursday and the final on Saturday.
Is there a link for the women's version? They're having a different schedule for the 2nd and 3rd weeks, if I remember correctly.
Women's version is not out yet.
I still never understand why the committee seems to weigh SOS more heavily against the other criteria when doing so goes against the D3 philosophy as well as the championship manual. The manual clearly stresses the promotion of regional competition. Teams with better SOS often have high SOS because of the amount of travel that allows them to play stronger teams in different regions. This disproportionately favors schools with higher budgets/endowments etc which is contradictory to the D3 philosophy. Why do you say that regional competition should be prioritized when at the same time you punish teams for having low SOS because their region is not as strong? So which is it, should regional competition be a priority or should scheduling games against teams not in your region be the main goal? I understand that there need to be Pool C criteria, but I really don't like the trend of SOS being weighed so heavily across all sports.
The definition of "in-region" competition seems so broad now that it's almost harder to schedule an out-of-region opponent. I'm not any good at geography, so I could be completely wrong on this.
The UAA has a distinct advantage here as they have teams in multiple regions and all conference games count as in-region.
IN-REGION COMPETITION
In-region competition is defined as:
1. All competition within an institution's defined region.
2. All competition within a 500-mile radius from one institution to another.
3. All competition within an institution's membership geographical region. The country is divided into four membership
regions as listed below. For most institutions, this should result in a more expanded list of potential in-region opponents
than in the past.
Region 1
- Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New
Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont
Region 2
- New York, Pennsylvania
Region 3
- Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina,
Ohio, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia
Region 4
- Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri,
Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas,
Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming
4. All conference games
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 10, 2023, 07:48:19 PM
The definition of "in-region" competition seems so broad now that it's almost harder to schedule an out-of-region opponent. I'm not any good at geography, so I could be completely wrong on this.
The UAA has a distinct advantage here as they have teams in multiple regions and all conference games count as in-region.
IN-REGION COMPETITION
In-region competition is defined as:
1. All competition within an institution's defined region.
2. All competition within a 500-mile radius from one institution to another.
3. All competition within an institution's membership geographical region. The country is divided into four membership
regions as listed below. For most institutions, this should result in a more expanded list of potential in-region opponents
than in the past.
Region 1
- Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New
Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont
Region 2
- New York, Pennsylvania
Region 3
- Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina,
Ohio, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia
Region 4
- Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri,
Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas,
Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming
4. All conference games
Also, as long as at least 70% of your schedule consists of in-region competition against D3 opponents, you can count 100% of your games vs full member D3 opponents (both in and out of region) in your strength of schedule for primary criteria purposes.
This season, the Brandeis men's basketball team had only 1 out-of-region contest, and that was at Christopher Newport on Monday, January 2, 2023. The Judges were glad to take the flight out of Boston to Virginia this season for a non-conference game that would really simulate UAA road game conditions.
Christopher Newport men have 2 more out-of-region contests to play this weekend when the Captains travel to the Boston/Providence area to play at Bridgewater State (MA) and at Eastern Nazarene.
Pat, Dave, Ryan? Anyone know the game times of the semis or final? 5 and 7 on Thursday? 3 or 5 on Saturday? Trying to figure out logistics for that weekend if I decide to go. It's 5 1/2 hours for me, so I may just come Thursday, go home Friday and return Saturday, depending on what the NCAA's schedule is on Friday.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 28, 2023, 04:41:27 PM
Pat, Dave, Ryan? Anyone know the game times of the semis or final? 5 and 7 on Thursday? 3 or 5 on Saturday? Trying to figure out logistics for that weekend if I decide to go. It's 5 1/2 hours for me, so I may just come Thursday, go home Friday and return Saturday, depending on what the NCAA's schedule is on Friday.
I checked the Ticketmaster site for the Allen County War Memorial Coliseum in Fort Wayne, IN right now.
As of right now, the first semifinal on Thursday, March 16, is scheduled to start at 5:30 PM Eastern, with the second semifinal tipping off approx 1/2 hour after the conclusion of the first game-- no earlier than 8 PM Eastern.
The men's national championship game is scheduled for 4 PM Eastern on Saturday, March 18. The 4 PM start time for the men's final is also what I heard on the Hoopsville show from a few days ago, when both national chairs of the DIII men's and women's basketball committees appeared together for 1 hour to answer questions from host Dave McHugh.
Tickets for the DIII men's national semifinals and championship game do not go on sale to the general public until 10 AM Eastern on Sunday, March 12, 2023-- less than 1 week before tipoff. Tickets for the DIII women's national semifinals on March 18 at Trinity College in Hartford, CT, on the other hand, are now available for purchase on the Trinity Bantams Athletics website at $18 general admission/$10 for seniors and children.
Thanks! Curious about an all-star game, 3rd place game as well.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 28, 2023, 10:47:02 PM
Thanks! Curious about an all-star game, 3rd place game as well.
On the Hoopsville show last Thursday, the current men's national chair Sara Quatrocky indicated that there will be a 2023 NABC Reese's DIII All Star Game, and it will take place in Fort Wayne that weekend. Historically, the All-Star Game has taken place on the same day as the DIII men's national title game, about a few hours earlier on that day. The NABC has not yet updated their website to reflect the dates and times of the 2023 All Star Games, but each division in men's basketball has had an NABC Reese's All Star Game for many years.
There is no third place game this year, and DIII got rid of the practice of having a national third place game in both men's and women's basketball years ago. The last time that DIII had a national third place game in men's basketball was in March, 2009, at the end of the 2008-09 basketball season. Starting in March, 2010, the NABC DIII All-Star Game replaced the DIII national third place game in men's basketball. I do not believe that there are any plans to reinstate a DIII national third place game in the immediate future.
Personally, I am waiting for event1teamstore.com (http://event1teamstore.com) to start taking orders/preorders for t-shirts with either the list of all of the teams that made the field for the 2022-23 NCAA DIII Basketball Tournaments or made the "DIII Final Four"/national semifinals. Not only are these t-shirts custom made every year, they are very pricey in themselves. I believe last year, they sold between $30 and $40 a piece.
Thanks. I know they used to have the 3rd place game and replaced it with the all-star game, I was curious if they may reinstate the 3rd place game to "fill time" since the Final Four weekend has been extended for a day. Possibly scheduling the all-star game and/or the 3rd place game on Friday.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 29, 2023, 09:54:52 AM
Thanks. I know they used to have the 3rd place game and replaced it with the all-star game, I was curious if they may reinstate the 3rd place game to "fill time" since the Final Four weekend has been extended for a day. Possibly scheduling the all-star game and/or the 3rd place game on Friday.
I can't imagine they keep two teams that lost semifinals around for TWO nights to do this.
If they lose on Thursday, I would have them play Friday to fill that extra day. Maybe even have the all-star game Friday as well. I don't see them bringing back that game anyway.
We don't need to "fill time" or pay for the use of the facility in full for the middle day.
This move to add a day off is for all sports in DIII and honestly we need it. There is a strong argument that national championship games are impacted by players not having enough rest from hard fought battles the day before just to get to the title game. Any other round, maybe it isn't as significant, but we are talking about the national championship. (Also allows teams to have actual practices and walk-throughs before such an important battle.)
And honestly, fans and their work schedules is not going to dictate anything when it comes to national championships schedules. Is it inconvenient to have a day off in the middle? Yep. Does the Thursday/Saturday really the best way to do it? We shall see.
What I think will happen but we won't see until next year is the men's and women's schedules alternate even though they are not in the same facility. This year men are Th/Sat ... next year they may be Fri/Sun while women play Thu/Sat - and it will change every year. That way each gender gets its spotlight. They do that at soccer, though they use the same facility.
It can be something we ask the committee the next opportunities we get.
As for a third-place game returning - nope. That's dead. It won't return. Teams and coaches had lost interest in it. The 2009 final version was a joke of a game. F&M didn't even bother trying. Coaches watching were so fed up they got the All-Star Game to replace it.
The ASG will be played at Noon on Saturday ahead of the championship game.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2023, 11:21:31 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 29, 2023, 09:54:52 AM
Thanks. I know they used to have the 3rd place game and replaced it with the all-star game, I was curious if they may reinstate the 3rd place game to "fill time" since the Final Four weekend has been extended for a day. Possibly scheduling the all-star game and/or the 3rd place game on Friday.
I can't imagine they keep two teams that lost semifinals around for TWO nights to do this.
Furthermore, I can't think of a player or team competing in the Final Four who would want to play in a 3rd place game after losing the chance to play for a national championship.
Quote from: Great Day to be a Royal on February 01, 2023, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2023, 11:21:31 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 29, 2023, 09:54:52 AM
Thanks. I know they used to have the 3rd place game and replaced it with the all-star game, I was curious if they may reinstate the 3rd place game to "fill time" since the Final Four weekend has been extended for a day. Possibly scheduling the all-star game and/or the 3rd place game on Friday.
I can't imagine they keep two teams that lost semifinals around for TWO nights to do this.
Furthermore, I can't think of a player or team competing in the Final Four who would want to play in a 3rd place game after losing the chance to play for a national championship.
The idea than nobody cared or tried in those third place games isn't correct. I think Williams played in three third place games, and they wanted to win very badly. Who wants to end the season on a loss? I understand why the game went away. But, for most of it's existence it was a keenly contested game, and a lot of fun to watch. Way better than the all star game, IMHO.
Thanks for the input, Dave. As I've said, from a fan's perspective, it's really offsetting. I know the NCAA doesn't care about the fans in that sense, but yeah, we have jobs, vacation time, costs for hotels etc.
I'm really curious to hear the arguments of the Title game being effected by the players' lack of rest etc. There have been some great championship games over the years. Maybe teams that play back to back games throughout the year actually have an advantage? I'm not sure.
Players and teams have been fighting for several weeks at the end of the season and post-season playing back to back games, at the very least the last two weekends. Are they as important as the championship game? Some may argue because if you lose, you're done. No one is going to say, "Oh, it's not the championship game, so I guess we don't have to try as hard..." You have the "lose and you're done" attitude for 2 or 3 weekends now.
It will be interesting on how the extra day effects the championship game attendance. If you lose Friday, I would imagine there's a good number of fans that would stick around for an afternoon championship game the next day. Losing on Thursday, there isn't much motivation to stick around for the extra day to watch the championship game. I, for one, will probably book a room for Thursday night, watch the two semi-final games, and probably drive home Friday. If the championship game suits me, I'll drive back Saturday morning, but a lot fans don't have that luxury.
Not that it would've likely made much difference, but John Baines said, after the title game last year, he thought they could've been better prepared for the RMC defense with an extra day. He's among the best, most creative game planners in d3, so I give that comment some extra weight. It's not just fatigue. It gives everyone a chance to be at their best.
What if D2 went to a 3 weekend tournament like the other divisions and D2 and D3 held a joint Final Four? D3 Thursday and Saturday, D2 Friday and Sunday. Teams would get their off day to rest and plan, fans would have more action to watch, and you'd have more fans attending since there's more teams there.
Quote from: toad22 on February 01, 2023, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: Great Day to be a Royal on February 01, 2023, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2023, 11:21:31 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 29, 2023, 09:54:52 AM
Thanks. I know they used to have the 3rd place game and replaced it with the all-star game, I was curious if they may reinstate the 3rd place game to "fill time" since the Final Four weekend has been extended for a day. Possibly scheduling the all-star game and/or the 3rd place game on Friday.
I can't imagine they keep two teams that lost semifinals around for TWO nights to do this.
Furthermore, I can't think of a player or team competing in the Final Four who would want to play in a 3rd place game after losing the chance to play for a national championship.
The idea than nobody cared or tried in those third place games isn't correct. I think Williams played in three third place games, and they wanted to win very badly. Who wants to end the season on a loss? I understand why the game went away. But, for most of it's existence it was a keenly contested game, and a lot of fun to watch. Way better than the all star game, IMHO.
Based on the 20 or so Final Fours I attended during the third-place game era, I'd say that probably 50% to 60% of the teams were motivated to play in the third place game.
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 02, 2023, 01:09:03 PM
What if D2 went to a 3 weekend tournament like the other divisions and D2 and D3 held a joint Final Four? D3 Thursday and Saturday, D2 Friday and Sunday. Teams would get their off day to rest and plan, fans would have more action to watch, and you'd have more fans attending since there's more teams there.
^^^This seems like a decent idea.
On the matter of the day off between the semis and the championship, it could affect attendance in that some fans might not go to the semis but, with a full day to devote to travel, decide to go for the championship game if their team is playing.
If the D-II championship went to three weekends, then their Final Four would take place two weekends after ours.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 01, 2023, 08:25:05 PM
I'm really curious to hear the arguments of the Title game being effected by the players' lack of rest etc. There have been some great championship games over the years. Maybe teams that play back to back games throughout the year actually have an advantage? I'm not sure.
In the 1981 title game, Potsdam's Derrick Rowland pulled a hammy in the semi's, he and the trainer were up all night but he played in the final the next day that Potsdam won vs. Augustana in Rock Island in OT. That's one instance.
many conferences plays a Friday night, Saturday afternoon schedule then bus home after the Saturday game.
A 9 PM Friday; 7 or 8 PM Saturday is business as usual, plus at an NCAA Championship site, you usually go home the day after the title game.
Quote from: thebear on February 03, 2023, 10:41:47 AM
many conferences plays a Friday night, Saturday afternoon schedule then bus home after the Saturday game.
I don't think this is true anymore. In your part of the country, yes, but it's no more than 15-20% of conferences nationwide, I'd say.
I am checking event1teamstore.com (http://event1teamstore.com) to see when they will start taking orders for the NCAA DIII men's and women's basketball tournament t-shirts. Event1 has not started taking orders yet, but when they do, the short sleeve t-shirts are being priced at $32 and the long-sleeved t-shirts are being priced at $40. These prices are what Event1 is charging for the DIII t-shirts for Men's and Women's Swimming and Diving Championships, as well as for the DIII Men's Wrestling Championships.
Unfortunately, there are no t-shirts being sold at 3xl or larger sizes from Event1, unlike the 3xl Hoopsville t-shirts you can currently buy up until Friday, February 17, 2023 from hoopsville.itemorder.com (http://hoopsville.itemorder.com)
Per Hoopsville (https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2022-23/feb16), here's the top 16 seeds currently:
1) Randolph-Macon
2) St Joseph (CT)
3) Middlebury
4) Swarthmore
5) Rowan
6) Stockton
7) Williams
8) Mount Union
9) John Carroll
10) Wheaton (IL)
11) Hampden-Sydney
12) Christopher Newport
13) UW-Oshkosh
14) Case Western Reserve
15) WashU
16) Johns Hopkins
Officially very curious who just put into host tonight per Dave M.
Per Hoopsville (https://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2022-23/feb16), here's the top 16 seeds currently:
1) Randolph-Macon @ Guilford on Saturday
2) St Joseph (CT) won Tuesday
3) Middlebury vs Tufts on Saturday NESCAC quarters
4) Swarthmore won yesterday, @ Gettysburg Saturday
5) Rowan lost last night
6) Stockton lost last night
7) Williams vs Trinity CT on Saturday NESCAC quarters
8) Mount Union won yesterday, vs Otterbein on Saturday
9) John Carroll lost last night, at Wilmington on Saturday
10) Wheaton (IL) won yesterday, at Elmhurst on Saturday
11) Hampden-Sydney won yesterday, at Wash & Lee on Saturday
12) Christopher Newport won yesterday
13) UW-Oshkosh won yesterday
14) Case Western Reserve at Wash U on Friday, at Chicago on Sunday
15) WashU vs CWRU on Friday, vs CMU on Sunday
16) Johns Hopkins won yesterday, at Ursinus on Saturday
Everything is east of St Louis and north of Newport News VA.
But then that is D3!
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2023, 11:27:42 PM
Everything is east of St Louis and north of Newport News VA.
But then that is D3!
Technically, Wash U is slightly west of the St. Louis city limits.
Quote from: y_jack_lok on February 17, 2023, 09:57:18 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2023, 11:27:42 PM
Everything is east of St Louis and north of Newport News VA.
But then that is D3!
Technically, Wash U is slightly west of the St. Louis city limits.
Thanks.
Quote from: y_jack_lok on February 17, 2023, 09:57:18 AM
Technically, Wash U is slightly west of the St. Louis city limits.
Yes, the Danforth Campus is two-lanes of a four-lane road from the St. Louis city limits.
Quote from: WUPHF on February 17, 2023, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on February 17, 2023, 09:57:18 AM
Technically, Wash U is slightly west of the St. Louis city limits.
Yes, the Danforth Campus is two-lanes of a four-lane road from the St. Louis city limits.
I just looked more closely at Google maps. It shows a dotted red line, which I assume is the city limit, that is slightly west of Skinker Blvd and includes perhaps 50-100 feet of the east end of the campus.
Quote from: y_jack_lok on February 17, 2023, 06:25:16 PM
Quote from: WUPHF on February 17, 2023, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on February 17, 2023, 09:57:18 AM
Technically, Wash U is slightly west of the St. Louis city limits.
Yes, the Danforth Campus is two-lanes of a four-lane road from the St. Louis city limits.
I just looked more closely at Google maps. It shows a dotted red line, which I assume is the city limit, that is slightly west of Skinker Blvd and includes perhaps 50-100 feet of the east end of the campus.
The Danforth Campus is located in an unincorporated area of St. Louis County, MO, bordered by the municipalties of University City, Clayton, and St. Louis, MO. You can get from the campus to Lambert Airport on the St. Louis light rail system.
Teams #2 and 3 are decided tonight. Rowan currently leads Stockton in the NJAC championship while the CUNYAC title between Lehman and Baruch will tip in a little while.
Rowan wins the NJAC 103-88
Great action in the Big Apple. Baruch led Lehman 71-64 with just 27 seconds left for the CUNYAC crown but they're headed to OT tied at 72.
Baruch missed 3 of 4 FTs, including 2 straight at the end that should've sealed it.
Conference champions by seed:
1: 19x AMCC, AEC, CUNYAC, C2C, CCS, CCC, LEC, MASCAC, MWC, MIAC, NECC, NJAC, NAC (divisions), ODAC, Sky, SUNYAC, UEC, UMAC, USAC
2: 12x CC, CCIW, CSAC, GNAC (divisions), HCAC, LL, MACC, NESCAC, NCAC, NACC, OAC, SLIAC
3: 8x ASC, Land, MACF, MIAA, NEWMAC, NWC, SAA, WIAC
4: 3x E8, PAC, SCIAC
5: 1x SCAC
6: 1x ARC
Bracket is out:
https://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2023/bracket
I missed something that someone probably knows... where is Maryville (Tn) bid... FAQ says USAC gets auto bid???
Quote from: hopefan on February 27, 2023, 03:21:47 PM
I missed something that someone probably knows... where is Maryville (Tn) bid... FAQ says USAC gets auto bid???
NC Wesleyan won the USAC title. Maryville is in the newly formed CCS and they don't have a pool A bid for 2 years.
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 27, 2023, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 27, 2023, 03:21:47 PM
I missed something that someone probably knows... where is Maryville (Tn) bid... FAQ says USAC gets auto bid???
NC Wesleyan won the USAC title. Maryville is in the newly formed CCS and they don't have a pool A bid for 2 years.
Darn... I see... thanks
My annual tournament map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1lJtz1Rx1LAGOUsOqywHVqPlFy1ic9zg&usp=sharing
The 2023 NCAA DIII Men's Basketball Selection Show from earlier today is now up on Youtube on the official NCAA Championships Channel.
If you had trouble getting through watching the show on ncaa.com, like I did in the middle because the wifi on my computer went down for a few minutes, and as a result, I had to start watching the show all over again from the beginning at 2:30 PM Eastern with no way to fast forward past the first 20 minutes, you can rewatch the show tonight or tomorrow on Youtube-- but I am going to watch the Hoopsville show tonight, first.
I do think the top four teams across each bracket are fairly close in quality. But looking deeper the bracket of death this year is pretty clearly the bottom right: two first round match-ups between two top 25 teams. Plus a very tough HSC-Emory matchup. The bracket features the #2, 4, 9, 14, 15, 17, 20, 21, and 25th ranked teams. CNU and St Joe's are definitely teams in the very top group of contenders to win it all and there are 4-5 very strong teams behind them.
Short sleeve and long sleeve jerseys showing the field for the 2023 DIII Men's Basketball first and second rounds are now available to order at event1teamstore.com (http://event1teamstore.com)
Prices range from $32 to $35 for short sleeve jerseys and $40 for long sleeve jerseys. Sizes are available up to 2xl.
There is no charge for shipping.
A limited number of these shirts should be available for sale this weekend by Event1 at each first/second round site, but ordering these shirts on-line will guarantee that you will get one. If you order these jerseys on-line, allow 4 weeks for Event1 to custom-make and ship these jerseys to you.
BTW, I ordered a 2xl men's short sleeve jersey last night from the Event1 team store as a keepsake. (I want to remember the Rochester men's team making the field, even if Nichols beats them on Friday....)
For those interested in some nitty-gritty for every first round matchup, we went game-by-game using efficiency ratings and put win probabilities and a computer line on every first round game in this week's episode of the D3 Datacast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS5vGq_YPGM
Quote from: deiscanton on February 27, 2023, 06:28:29 PM
The 2023 NCAA DIII Men's Basketball Selection Show from earlier today is now up on Youtube on the official NCAA Championships Channel.
If you had trouble getting through watching the show on ncaa.com, like I did in the middle because the wifi on my computer went down for a few minutes, and as a result, I had to start watching the show all over again from the beginning at 2:30 PM Eastern with no way to fast forward past the first 20 minutes, you can rewatch the show tonight or tomorrow on Youtube-- but I am going to watch the Hoopsville show tonight, first.
Why does the NCAA do this. Would love the option to get to LIVE if I log on 5 minutes late...
Quote from: deiscanton on February 28, 2023, 07:38:11 AM
Short sleeve and long sleeve jerseys showing the field for the 2023 DIII Men's Basketball first and second rounds are now available to order at event1teamstore.com (http://event1teamstore.com)
Prices range from $32 to $35 for short sleeve jerseys and $40 for long sleeve jerseys. Sizes are available up to 2xl.
There is no charge for shipping.
Thanks @deiscanton! I have resisted all these years, but I like the design and free shipping so I am going to follow your lead and order.
Quote from: HOPEful on February 28, 2023, 02:15:18 PM
Quote from: deiscanton on February 27, 2023, 06:28:29 PM
The 2023 NCAA DIII Men's Basketball Selection Show from earlier today is now up on Youtube on the official NCAA Championships Channel.
If you had trouble getting through watching the show on ncaa.com, like I did in the middle because the wifi on my computer went down for a few minutes, and as a result, I had to start watching the show all over again from the beginning at 2:30 PM Eastern with no way to fast forward past the first 20 minutes, you can rewatch the show tonight or tomorrow on Youtube-- but I am going to watch the Hoopsville show tonight, first.
Why does the NCAA do this. Would love the option to get to LIVE if I log on 5 minutes late...
There are ways to fast-forward but they don't make it easy because then you could just skip ahead and see the brackets...
Quote from: ziggy on February 28, 2023, 01:57:00 PM
For those interested in some nitty-gritty for every first round matchup, we went game-by-game using efficiency ratings and put win probabilities and a computer line on every first round game in this week's episode of the D3 Datacast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS5vGq_YPGM
Thanks for doing this. I did something similar, using win % and SOS, and it tracked pretty closely
Outliers
Christopher Newport had the women's priority, which we all knew about, and are not far from home at Hampden-Sydney, they would have been a top three team to host otherwise.
Williams had a strong enough record and SOS to host a pod; perhaps the committee wants to see how St. Joseph's CT does against the powers in D3.
Not quite sure when MHB got to host over St. Thomas TX, unless the committee went for a slightly bigger facility or there was a conflict.
I suspect Oswego is another school with a strong win %, but a weak SOS, and the committee wanted to make sure they were for real. John Carroll was ranked below them and can bus to Oswego, and could be a great test on the second day.
Emory's 8 losses probably hurt them as far as hosting, plus they are on the south edge of the teams in the tournament; Wash U gives the UAA two of the 16 hosts, and solves a geographic problem for the committee as Sewanee & Coe can both get there fairly easily
St. Joe's is probably hosting the toughest pod, as Williams and Pomona-Pitzer are both good teams.
UW-Oshkosh likely has the weakest pod, with Fontbonne likely the #64 seed at .571 WP% and a .452 SOS, again likely a function of geography and I think Fontbonne had to travel as they had already played Wash U [& Bethany Lutheran] during the season, so wouldn't have been paired in the first round.
Just my humble observations.
Good stuff. +k
Quote from: thebear on February 28, 2023, 07:21:06 PM
Not quite sure when MHB got to host over St. Thomas TX, unless the committee went for a slightly bigger facility or there was a conflict.
Bigger facility. National committee chair Sara Quatrocky came right out and said it on
Hoopsville today. She even said that it was a unanimous decision among all ten committee members.
We had a discussion on Twitter about this. St. Thomas' gym holds like 800.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 28, 2023, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 28, 2023, 07:21:06 PM
Not quite sure when MHB got to host over St. Thomas TX, unless the committee went for a slightly bigger facility or there was a conflict.
Bigger facility. National committee chair Sara Quatrocky came right out and said it on Hoopsville today. She even said that it was a unanimous decision among all ten committee members.
Part of me wonders if this was also a bit of a convenient excuse given St. Thomas is new to Division III and this is the first year they were even eligible to participate in the national tournament. I can see that they may prefer St. Thomas gets some experience just playing in the tournament before hosting it, even if they don't want to come out and say it that clearly.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 28, 2023, 10:59:09 PM
We had a discussion on Twitter about this. St. Thomas' gym holds like 800.
Yeah there's a picture on their website, Maybe you could get 1,000 with standing room, but only about 13 rows on one side.
... while, on the other hand, Mary Hardin-Baylor's Mayborn Campus Center seats 2,500 fans and is a really beautiful modern facility. (https://cruathletics.com/sports/2022/7/12/mayborn-campus-center.aspx) Sara Quatrocky made a point of saying that, as long as the four Texas schools had to be stuck together in a single pod, the committee figured it might as well make lemons out of lemonade by holding the pod in a place that can handle a good turnout from all four schools.
It really is a pain in the butt to clear out the gym between games. I went to the Lawrence 1st weekend games many moons ago. We watched the 1st game and had good seats. Then we had to pack up and go to the end of the line outside for the 2nd game. The line was literally a half mile long. Standing outside in March in Wisconsin waiting to get back in. I can't imagine how long those Lawrence fans were standing out there waiting for the 1st game to end.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2023, 12:28:41 PM
... while, on the other hand, Mary Hardin-Baylor's Mayborn Campus Center seats 2,500 fans and is a really beautiful modern facility. (https://cruathletics.com/sports/2022/7/12/mayborn-campus-center.aspx) Sara Quatrocky made a point of saying that, as long as the four Texas schools had to be stuck together in a single pod, the committee figured it might as well make lemons out of lemonade by holding the pod in a place that can handle a good turnout from all four schools.
If tickets are distributed equally to all 4 teams and one ticket lets you see two games, then 2500 fans would make for an exciting environment.
Neumann 82 Manhattanville 75
Neumann plays Alvernia @ Alfred in the ECAC Semifinals this weekend. Also, Allegheny will play the host in the other semi.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2023, 12:28:41 PM
... while, on the other hand, Mary Hardin-Baylor's Mayborn Campus Center seats 2,500 fans and is a really beautiful modern facility. (https://cruathletics.com/sports/2022/7/12/mayborn-campus-center.aspx) Sara Quatrocky made a point of saying that, as long as the four Texas schools had to be stuck together in a single pod, the committee figured it might as well make lemons out of lemonade by holding the pod in a place that can handle a good turnout from all four schools.
Nice turn of phrase there.
In D1 basketball, all but 1 of the national champions since 2002 have had a combined KenPom adjusted offensive and adjusted defensive efficiency that adds up to less than 50, i.e, the 1st ranked offense and the 48th ranked defense, or the 24th ranked offense and the 25th ranked defense.
I took Matt Snyder's rankings and applied the same thing to this year's field---offense is listed first, followed by defense, and then sorted by the total:
1. Oswego St. 3-6-9
2. Randolph Macon 8-2-10
3. St. Joseph's CT 13-1-14
4. Christopher Newport 4-18-22
5. Keene St. 18-11-29
6. Hampden-Sydney 10-21-31
7. Johns Hopkins 32-3-35
8. Williams 16-20-36
9. Swarthmore 7-42-49
10. UW Oshkosh 37-12-49
11. Mount Union 17-33-50
Note: Guilford (45-4-49) would have met the criteria if they made the tournament.
What if you included teams that were less than 60? Division III is about 20% larger than D-I.
Ironically enough I was originally going to do top 60 for the exact same reason but with 11 teams in the top 50 it seemed like that was plenty. The only tournament team that would be added would be Wheaton (22-37). Roanoke (41-17) missed the dance.
As an aside, I would've loved to have done this and gone back through the archives to see where each D3 champion fell instead of D1, but they aren't sortable.
Looking at various ratings/rankings etc.
On paper games of the day are:
Emory at Hampden-Sydney
ETBU vs. St. Thomas (TX) at MHB
UW-Whitewater vs. Wabash at CWRU
I have to stay chained to my home office and get a mid-term exam written as next week is the last week before Spring Break.
isn't there normally bracket previews and predictions from d3hoops? Does that come later today?
Quote from: NEPAFAN on March 03, 2023, 10:28:05 AM
isn't there normally bracket previews and predictions from d3hoops? Does that come later today?
There sure are. They came on Wednesday:
https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2023/tournament-preview
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2023, 10:29:28 AM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on March 03, 2023, 10:28:05 AM
isn't there normally bracket previews and predictions from d3hoops? Does that come later today?
There sure are. They came on Wednesday:
https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2023/tournament-preview
Thank you!
Quote from: y_jack_lok on March 02, 2023, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager hilink=topic=9396.msg2075265#msg2075265 date=1677691721
... while, on the other hand, Mary Hardin-Baylor's Mayborn Campus Center seats 2,500 fans and is a really beautiful modern facility. (https://cruathletics.com/sports/2022/7/12/mayborn-campus-center.aspx) Sara Quatrocky made a point of saying that, as long as the four Texas schools had to be stuck together in a single pod, the committee figured it might as well make lemons out of lemonade by holding the pod in a place that can handle a good turnout from all four schools.
Nice turn of phrase there.
Thanks! Just wanted to see who is paying attention.
Cliches are boring, and should be subverted wherever possible. ;)
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 03, 2023, 11:02:58 AM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on March 02, 2023, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager hilink=topic=9396.msg2075265#msg2075265 date=1677691721
... while, on the other hand, Mary Hardin-Baylor's Mayborn Campus Center seats 2,500 fans and is a really beautiful modern facility. (https://cruathletics.com/sports/2022/7/12/mayborn-campus-center.aspx) Sara Quatrocky made a point of saying that, as long as the four Texas schools had to be stuck together in a single pod, the committee figured it might as well make lemons out of lemonade by holding the pod in a place that can handle a good turnout from all four schools.
Nice turn of phrase there.
Thanks! Just wanted to see who is paying attention.
Cliches are boring, and should be subverted wherever possible. ;)
I didn't catch it and I was paying attention. I guess I'm not the brightest knife in the cookie jar!
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 03, 2023, 11:02:58 AM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on March 02, 2023, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager hilink=topic=9396.msg2075265#msg2075265 date=1677691721
... while, on the other hand, Mary Hardin-Baylor's Mayborn Campus Center seats 2,500 fans and is a really beautiful modern facility. (https://cruathletics.com/sports/2022/7/12/mayborn-campus-center.aspx) Sara Quatrocky made a point of saying that, as long as the four Texas schools had to be stuck together in a single pod, the committee figured it might as well make lemons out of lemonade by holding the pod in a place that can handle a good turnout from all four schools.
Nice turn of phrase there.
Thanks! Just wanted to see who is paying attention.
Cliches are boring, and should be subverted wherever possible. ;)
At first I thought someone had simply gotten the phrase backwards, then I noticed it was your post and knew it had to be intentional.
Was there a concerted effort to start the games earlier this year? I remember some early starts in the past but it seems like a lot more this year.
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 03, 2023, 02:56:06 PM
Was there a concerted effort to start the games earlier this year? I remember some early starts in the past but it seems like a lot more this year.
No, this is the new normal and the third year it has been like this.
Final-- Nichols 74, Rochester 71
This continues a trend-- Teams that got a Pool C selection with a winning pct below .667 are now 0-3 in NCAA DIII Men's basketball tournament games.
The 2016-17 UW-Oshkosh team (Pool C with a .630 winning pct) lost at Hope in the first round by 2 points.
The 2018-19 UW-La Crosse team (Pool C with a .654 winning pct) lost to St. Thomas (MN) in the first round on a neutral court by 14, and now--
The 2021-22 Rochester team (Pool C with a .640 winning pct) has just lost to Nichols in the first round on a neutral court by 3 points.
It just gives fuel to all of the mid-level DIII teams to advocate to demand the DIII Championships Committee to set a line in the sand at .667 winning pct to even be considered for eligibility for Pool C selection for all DIII Championships in all sports. Their point will be that since you are wasting a bid on a high-level DIII team who will not win the national championship, why not give a limited opportunity to another mid-level team who does not have as many opportunities in the regular season to play the best teams to give the mid-level DIII team a chance to test themselves in the NCAA tournament?
Biggest upset so far today. Lancaster Bible 67 NYU 64
Tied at 61, LBC hit a 3 with less than a minute left, NYU tied it again with 37 seconds left, but LBC hit the game winning 3 with 6 seconds left and NYU couldn't answer.
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 03, 2023, 06:43:11 PM
Biggest upset so far today. Lancaster Bible 67 NYU 64
Tied at 61, LBC hit a 3 with less than a minute left, NYU tied it again with 37 seconds left, but LBC hit the game winning 3 with 6 seconds left and NYU couldn't answer.
Is not that the D-3 equivalent of a D-1 Power 5 conference team losing to, for example, the Summit League AQ winner?
Yes, but there is a big range in seeding amongst Power 5 teams. It would be like Clemson or Northwestern losing, not Kansas or Duke. Not to mention, Oral Roberts in the Summit League is pretty good this year ;)
Quote from: deiscanton on March 03, 2023, 05:41:05 PM
Final-- Nichols 74, Rochester 71
This continues a trend-- Teams that got a Pool C selection with a winning pct below .667 are now 0-3 in NCAA DIII Men's basketball tournament games.
The 2016-17 UW-Oshkosh team (Pool C with a .630 winning pct) lost at Hope in the first round by 2 points.
The 2018-19 UW-La Crosse team (Pool C with a .654 winning pct) lost to St. Thomas (MN) in the first round on a neutral court by 14, and now--
The 2021-22 Rochester team (Pool C with a .640 winning pct) has just lost to Nichols in the first round on a neutral court by 3 points.
It just gives fuel to all of the mid-level DIII teams to advocate to demand the DIII Championships Committee to set a line in the sand at .667 winning pct to even be considered for eligibility for Pool C selection for all DIII Championships in all sports. Their point will be that since you are wasting a bid on a high-level DIII team who will not win the national championship, why not give a limited opportunity to another mid-level team who does not have as many opportunities in the regular season to play the best teams to give the mid-level DIII team a chance to test themselves in the NCAA tournament?
Teams at the bottom of Pool C are not always favored to win regardless of winning percentage.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 03, 2023, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 03, 2023, 06:43:11 PM
Biggest upset so far today. Lancaster Bible 67 NYU 64
Tied at 61, LBC hit a 3 with less than a minute left, NYU tied it again with 37 seconds left, but LBC hit the game winning 3 with 6 seconds left and NYU couldn't answer.
Is not that the D-3 equivalent of a D-1 Power 5 conference team losing to, for example, the Summit League AQ winner?
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 03, 2023, 07:38:09 PM
Yes, but there is a big range in seeding amongst Power 5 teams. It would be like Clemson or Northwestern losing, not Kansas or Duke. Not to mention, Oral Roberts in the Summit League is pretty good this year ;)
Exactly. I wondered if NYU, from the very elite UAA and the sport journalism megahub of New York City, underestimated that tiny Bible college from rural Pennsylvania.
Quote from: deiscanton on March 03, 2023, 05:41:05 PM
Final-- Nichols 74, Rochester 71
This continues a trend-- Teams that got a Pool C selection with a winning pct below .667 are now 0-3 in NCAA DIII Men's basketball tournament games.
The 2016-17 UW-Oshkosh team (Pool C with a .630 winning pct) lost at Hope in the first round by 2 points.
The 2018-19 UW-La Crosse team (Pool C with a .654 winning pct) lost to St. Thomas (MN) in the first round on a neutral court by 14, and now--
The 2021-22 Rochester team (Pool C with a .640 winning pct) has just lost to Nichols in the first round on a neutral court by 3 points.
It just gives fuel to all of the mid-level DIII teams to advocate to demand the DIII Championships Committee to set a line in the sand at .667 winning pct to even be considered for eligibility for Pool C selection for all DIII Championships in all sports. Their point will be that since you are wasting a bid on a high-level DIII team who will not win the national championship, why not give a limited opportunity to another mid-level team who does not have as many opportunities in the regular season to play the best teams to give the mid-level DIII team a chance to test themselves in the NCAA tournament?
*Strongly* disagree here.
Two of those three teams you cite as being wasted bids lost by one score. They may not win the NCAA tournament, but they are far from the outlier in the field.
Those three teams are every bit as good as or better than a lot of other teams in the tournament. Rochester led this game by 16 at halftime, which is not a sign of a team that was out of its depth. (For reference, we have a Pool A team today that is currently losing 44-8 at halftime.) Rochester didn't finish the job, but neither did 31 other teams today. The Yellowjackets 100% deserved to be on the court and not sitting in the stands.
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 03, 2023, 07:38:09 PM
Yes, but there is a big range in seeding amongst Power 5 teams. It would be like Clemson or Northwestern losing, not Kansas or Duke. Not to mention, Oral Roberts in the Summit League is pretty good this year ;)
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 03, 2023, 07:49:26 PM
Exactly. I wondered if NYU, from the very elite UAA and the sport journalism megahub of New York City, underestimated that tiny Bible college from rural Pennsylvania.
I doubt it's the culture war or anything like that. This is bracketed like an 8-9 game or a 7-10 game.
Third tournament in a row that the UEC has won a first-round game.
Multi-bid leagues
NESCAC goes 4-0
UAA goes 2-3
NJAC goes 2-1
WIAC goes 2-0
CC goes 2-0
ASC goes 2-0 (against the SCAC)
C2C goes 2-0
CCIW goes 2-0
E8 goes 2-0
GNAC goes 1-1
OAC goes 2-0
ODAC goes 2-0
SCIAC goes 0-2
SCAC goes 0-2 (against the ASC)
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 03, 2023, 07:49:26 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 03, 2023, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 03, 2023, 06:43:11 PM
Biggest upset so far today. Lancaster Bible 67 NYU 64
Tied at 61, LBC hit a 3 with less than a minute left, NYU tied it again with 37 seconds left, but LBC hit the game winning 3 with 6 seconds left and NYU couldn't answer.
Is not that the D-3 equivalent of a D-1 Power 5 conference team losing to, for example, the Summit League AQ winner?
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 03, 2023, 07:38:09 PM
Yes, but there is a big range in seeding amongst Power 5 teams. It would be like Clemson or Northwestern losing, not Kansas or Duke. Not to mention, Oral Roberts in the Summit League is pretty good this year ;)
Exactly. I wondered if NYU, from the very elite UAA and the sport journalism megahub of New York City, underestimated that tiny Bible college from rural Pennsylvania.
I mean... NYU wasn't some great team. They were .500 in conference and cleaned up in the non-con because that's what they always do. Playing Helen Keller's School For the Blind will get you easy wins, but that's about it. NYU did look much improved this year and had a legit squad of players, unlike the past 5-6 years of teams. But the UAA was overrated this year at the top. It's the deepest the league might have ever been, but the top was very spongy and prone to losing. These current UAA squads don't hold a candle to the power teams of past years in the league.
For all the talk about how good the UAA was this year, I have to agree. Does anyone really think this year's UAA teams could compete with a WashU circa 08/09?
Quote from: blue_jays on March 04, 2023, 12:23:06 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 03, 2023, 07:49:26 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 03, 2023, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 03, 2023, 06:43:11 PM
Biggest upset so far today. Lancaster Bible 67 NYU 64
Tied at 61, LBC hit a 3 with less than a minute left, NYU tied it again with 37 seconds left, but LBC hit the game winning 3 with 6 seconds left and NYU couldn't answer.
Is not that the D-3 equivalent of a D-1 Power 5 conference team losing to, for example, the Summit League AQ winner?
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 03, 2023, 07:38:09 PM
Yes, but there is a big range in seeding amongst Power 5 teams. It would be like Clemson or Northwestern losing, not Kansas or Duke. Not to mention, Oral Roberts in the Summit League is pretty good this year ;)
Exactly. I wondered if NYU, from the very elite UAA and the sport journalism megahub of New York City, underestimated that tiny Bible college from rural Pennsylvania.
I mean... NYU wasn't some great team. They were .500 in conference and cleaned up in the non-con because that's what they always do. Playing Helen Keller's School For the Blind will get you easy wins, but that's about it. NYU did look much improved this year and had a legit squad of players, unlike the past 5-6 years of teams. But the UAA was overrated this year at the top. It's the deepest the league might have ever been, but the top was very spongy and prone to losing. These current UAA squads don't hold a candle to the power teams of past years in the league.
The NYU coaching staff got "Coaching Staff of the Year" finishing tied for 4th with a 7-7 conference record.
I loved the staggered start times of every game... allowed for a D3 hoops internet junkie like myself to see many more endings of games!!! FAN-tastic!!!!!!
Looks like the matchups involving two top 25 teams tonight are:
# 10 John Carroll 23-4 @ # 6 Oswego St 26-2
# 14 Williams 23-4 @ # 4 St. Joseph's CT 27-1
# 2 Christopher Newport 25-3 @ # 20 Hampden-Sydney 22-6
# 19 North Park 23-6 at # 18 Washington U StL 20-6
# 24 E. Texas Baptist 24-5 @ # 17 Mary Hardin-Baylor 23-5
Only matchup of 2 teams not receiving votes in the D3 poll is Univ of Mary Washington at Stockton.
All of the other hosts are ranked in the top 25.
Coach of the Year award is almost always either A. the team that won the league or B. the team that most overperformed expectations. NYU went 14-11 in 2022 and prior to that hadn't had a winning season since 2015-16. Their first year staff winning that award has nothing to do with the UAA's depth or NYU losing yesterday, at all.
I understand it had nothing to do with their loss yesterday, but it may have something to do with depth. NYU had a 3 game improvement from last season. I think CWRU did as well...maybe 2 1/2 game improvement in conference. CWRU has also never won the UAA.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 04, 2023, 02:10:30 PM
I understand it had nothing to do with their loss yesterday, but it may have something to do with depth. NYU had a 3 game improvement from last season. I think CWRU did as well...maybe 2 1/2 game improvement in conference. CWRU has also never won the UAA.
From here: https://gonyuathletics.com/news/2023/3/2/nyu-tabbed-uaa-coaching-staff-of-the-year-freedman-on-first-team.aspx (https://gonyuathletics.com/news/2023/3/2/nyu-tabbed-uaa-coaching-staff-of-the-year-freedman-on-first-team.aspx)
The 2022-23 Violets ended the regular season with an 18-7 overall record and 7-7 mark in the league, securing the team's most UAA wins since the 2015-16 season while NYU finished .500-or-above in the UAA for the first time since that year as well. NYU placed fourth in the Association this year after being picked last in the preseason coaches poll.
Yes, it was a three-game improvement, but they greatly exceeded expectations in the UAA: picked last in the conference, finished .500, and were firmly in the Pool C conversation when awards were meted out. They're the 'overperform expectations' argument.
You can of course make a strong argument for CWRU as well based on their conference title, but they won 20 games last year and were ranked in the top 20 from the get-go this season. They're the 'overall excellence and won the league' argument.
Good points all around and I don't even have a horse in the race. LOL.
Nor do I... Otherwise that quote-text would probably have been in purple violet. :)
Teams that made both the men and women tournaments:
Babson (M: Pool A, L (n) Utica 72-60; W: Pool C, W vs ME Maritime 69-44)
Chris Newport (M: Pool A, W (n) Farmingdale St 61-60; W: Pool A, W vs Brooklyn 89-52)
Emory (M: Pool C, L @ Hampden-Sydney 59-63; W: Pool C, L (n) Millikin 70-76)
Hope (M: Pool A, W (n) Bethany Lutheran 79-65; W: Pool A, W vs St Norbert 82-61)
Johns Hopkins (M: Pool C, W vs Mitchell 89-71; W: Pool C, L (n) Skidmore 59-62)
La Roche (M: Pool A, L @ Stockton 70-86; W: Pool A, L @ Ithaca 42-58)
Mary Washington (M: Pool C, W (n) St Lawrence 69-42; W: Pool C, W (n) Roger Williams 69-60)
Marymount (M: Pool A, L @ Oswego St 62-80; W: Pool A, L (n) St John Fisher 72-80)
Mitchell (M: Pool A, L @ Johns Hopkins 71-89; W: Pool A, L @ DeSales 60-78)
NYU (M: Pool C, L (n) Lancaster Bible 64-67; W: Pool A, W (n) Greensboro 71-54)
Rowan (M: Pool A, W vs Cal Lutheran 83-77; W: Pool A, L (n) RI College 59-67)
Scranton (M: Pool A, W (n) NC Wesleyan 65-64; W: Pool A, W vs St Joseph's (ME) 64-45)
St John Fisher (M: Pool A, W (n) Whitworth 74-59; W: Pool A, W (n) Marymount 80-72)
St Norbert (M: Pool A, W (n) Carleton 81-77; W: Pool A, L @ Hope 61-82)
Tufts (M: Pool C, W (n) Widener 78-66; W: Pool A, W vs Merchant Marine 72-57)
UW-Oshkosh (M: Pool C, W vs Fontbonne 86-58; W: Pool C, W (n) Wash & Lee 58-55)
UW-Whitewater (M: Pool A, W (n) Wabash 90-83; W: Pool A, W vs Webster 69-50)
WashU (M: Pool C, W vs Coe 69-48; W: Pool C, L (n) Trine 69-79)
18 made both fields
8 had both reach the 2nd round
4 had men win and women lose round 1
2 had women win and men lose round 1
4 had both lose round 1
When is the last time the NESCAC and UAA didn't make it to the 2nd weekend
Quote from: stlawus on March 04, 2023, 09:40:36 PM
When is the last time the NESCAC and UAA didn't make it to the 2nd weekend
In the modern era-- which started in 1993-94, when NESCAC presidents first allowed NESCAC teams to compete for NCAA basketball championships, this has never happened before. So, this year will be the first time in the modern era that neither a NESCAC nor a UAA team will be in the Sweet 16 in the NCAA DIII Men's Basketball Championship.
In the ancient era-- From 1987 to 1993, when only UAA teams competed in the NCAA Men's Basketball Championship, and the NESCAC presidents had a "no competition in NCAA team championships" ban on NESCAC teams in effect (the reason being given was that the NCAA tournaments lasted multiple weeks, and only single week postseasons were allowed for NESCAC institutions so as not to miss class time.) you can argue that a UAA team did not compete on the second weekend of the tournament in 1988-89, but that year had a 40 team bracket and the round of 16 was held on the first weekend of the tournament as the regional championships. Wash U lost in the round of 16 that year.
The traditional Sweet 16/Elite 8 second weekend matches did not start in DIII until the 1989-1990 tournament.
This week's D3 Datacast will feel familiar to those of you who tuned in for our first round preview and overall tournament odds shows last week. Released this morning, we dive into the Sweet 16 matchups and look at the updated overall tournament odds after last week's results.
Sweet 16 Preview and Tourney Odds Update - D3 Datacast - Episode 29 (https://youtu.be/FrXUvSnGMzQ)
Good stuff on D3 data. Thanks for the insight!
Know this probably isn't the best place to post this but with it being a decently trafficked national board this time of year, I just watched St. Thomas give undefeated Oral Roberts a heck of a game in the Summit League semifinals, leading at half and keeping it close just about the whole way before they ran out of plays at the end. The Tommies went 10-20 in year 1 but turned it around to 19-14 in year 2 under Johnnie Tauer. They have 3 players who joined the team when they were still in Division III, including Parker Bjornlund and Riley Miller, their second and third leading scorers. I presume they would've had Anders Nelson for a 5th year as well but they don't have grad programs. He did his final year at William and Mary.
Seems like the Tommies are comfortably settled and headed in the right direction in Division I.
St. Thomas has plenty of grad programs but I can't fault former D3hoops.com national Rookie of the Year Anders Nelson for going to William and Mary.
Fully aware that only makes him at best the No. 2 former D3hoops.com Rookie of the Year of all time.
Nelson started 29 games for the Tribe and led the team in scoring. Go Tribe!
Robinson was ok. LOL ::) ;D :P
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 07, 2023, 03:50:22 PM
St. Thomas has plenty of grad programs but I can't fault former D3hoops.com national Rookie of the Year Anders Nelson for going to William and Mary.
Fully aware that only makes him at best the No. 2 former D3hoops.com Rookie of the Year of all time.
My bad on that. University of St. Thomas...maybe I should've known better. I do wonder if there was a D3 connection that facilitated Nelson ending up at W&M however, between St. Thomas associate HC Mike Maker, the former head coach of Williams, and former Williams assistant, Dane Fischer, now the head coach at William & Mary...hopefully for another year.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 07, 2023, 03:50:22 PM
St. Thomas has plenty of grad programs but I can't fault former D3hoops.com national Rookie of the Year Anders Nelson for going to William and Mary.
Fully aware that only makes him at best the No. 2 former D3hoops.com Rookie of the Year of all time.
He was only ROY because none of you believed me that the best freshman in the country was playing for a 19 win Skyline conference also-ran.
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 02, 2023, 03:55:15 PM
In D1 basketball, all but 1 of the national champions since 2002 have had a combined KenPom adjusted offensive and adjusted defensive efficiency that adds up to less than 50, i.e, the 1st ranked offense and the 48th ranked defense, or the 24th ranked offense and the 25th ranked defense.
I took Matt Snyder's rankings and applied the same thing to this year's field---offense is listed first, followed by defense, and then sorted by the total:
1. Oswego St. 3-6-9
2. Randolph Macon 8-2-10
3. St. Joseph's CT 13-1-14
4. Christopher Newport 4-18-22
5. Keene St. 18-11-29
6. Hampden-Sydney 10-21-31
7. Johns Hopkins 32-3-35
8. Williams 16-20-36
9. Swarthmore 7-42-49
10. UW Oshkosh 37-12-49
11. Mount Union 17-33-50
Note: Guilford (45-4-49) would have met the criteria if they made the tournament.
Checking in on this: 9 of the 11 teams listed advanced to the Sweet 16, which is the maximum number as Christopher Newport and Hampden-Sydney played against each other and so too did Williams and St. Joe's.
Former D-3 player [Wesleyan] and head coach [Clarkson, Hamilton] Tobin Anderson advances to the NCAA tournament with his FDU squad. His team lost at Merrimack by a point, but Merrimack is in the process of moving up from D2 to D1 so FDU got the auto-bid, [and probably will be in a 16 seed play-in game].
Former D3 player [Potsdam] Tim Welsh was the color analyst on the game.
If my Lakeland math is correct, there are 38 teams in this year's field that weren't in the tournament last year.
8 games for the round of 16... 4 starting in the 4:00 Eastern Hour, 4 in the 7:00 hour
Sitting at my computer, if I had to pick one game to watch in each time slot, I'd go with Wheaton - St Joe's early, Randy - Oswego late
However, I guarantee I'll be switching around to all 4 in each slot as long as the games remain close in score!!!
The early start seems like it makes a lot less sense for the second weekend than it does for the first weekend. Having 4 Sweet 16 games going off right now just seems counterproductive. I would have done two
Wow. Whitewater extends the game just enough to force OT. JHU makes a FT with 3 seconds to go, Whitewater tosses a long ball in, nearly going out of bounds, but a Whitewater player saves it and throws it to near the top of the 3-point line and Devin Barnstable is fouled with .3 seconds left...makes both FTs to tie the game and send it into OT.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 10, 2023, 05:51:09 PM
Wow. Whitewater extends the game just enough to force OT. JHU makes a FT with 3 seconds to go, Whitewater tosses a long ball in, nearly going out of bounds, but a Whitewater player saves it and throws it to near the top of the 3-point line and Devin Barnstable is fouled with .3 seconds left...makes both FTs to tie the game and send it into OT.
JHU missed six -- count 'em, six -- free throws in the last 41 seconds of regulation and blew a six-point lead in that short span. Can't do that in the Sweet Sixteen and expect to advance.
Bit of a surprise - Halftime at Ashland VA, Oswego 38, RMC 26. Soph Akhee Anderson leads the Lakers with 16 first half points.
Doesn't look like RMC is used to getting beat off the dribble as much as they have been this game.
Apologies as I have only seen this year's RMC in small spurts, but is there offense always this, um, static?
Oswego is very athletic defensively, Sparks, Anderson, Green are all tough matchups, with their length and quickness.
Nice win for the Lakers. Congrats to Coach Leone and his charges. Toughest possible environment and they came away with the W and ended a 63 game home court win streak.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 10, 2023, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 10, 2023, 05:51:09 PM
Wow. Whitewater extends the game just enough to force OT. JHU makes a FT with 3 seconds to go, Whitewater tosses a long ball in, nearly going out of bounds, but a Whitewater player saves it and throws it to near the top of the 3-point line and Devin Barnstable is fouled with .3 seconds left...makes both FTs to tie the game and send it into OT.
JHU missed six -- count 'em, six -- free throws in the last 41 seconds of regulation and blew a six-point lead in that short span. Can't do that in the Sweet Sixteen and expect to advance.
True. But the two fouls at the end of regulation and OT that gave Whitewater FTs were a bit generous, in my opinion.
Nugget from the RMC PBP guy during the Whitewater/JHU game: JHU's Jayden Dixon played on Virginia's national championship team a few years ago; may be 1st to go from D1 champion to D3.
Quote from: thebear on March 10, 2023, 08:44:57 PM
Oswego is very athletic defensively, Sparks, Anderson, Green are all tough matchups, with their length and quickness.
Nice win for the Lakers. Congrats to Coach Leone and his charges. Toughest possible environment and they came away with the W and ended a 63 game home court win streak.
I'm thinking that this is the biggest win for a SUNYAC team since Welsh left Potsdam for Iona. Your thoughts on that topic?
Oh, and I can't be the only central New York product who thinks that the RMC broadcaster's constant pronunciation of the Lakers' school as "Ozz-WAY-go State" is the play-by-play equivalent of fingernails on a blackboard.
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 07, 2023, 08:06:13 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 02, 2023, 03:55:15 PM
In D1 basketball, all but 1 of the national champions since 2002 have had a combined KenPom adjusted offensive and adjusted defensive efficiency that adds up to less than 50, i.e, the 1st ranked offense and the 48th ranked defense, or the 24th ranked offense and the 25th ranked defense.
I took Matt Snyder's rankings and applied the same thing to this year's field---offense is listed first, followed by defense, and then sorted by the total:
1. Oswego St. 3-6-9
2. Randolph Macon 8-2-10
3. St. Joseph's CT 13-1-14
4. Christopher Newport 4-18-22
5. Keene St. 18-11-29
6. Hampden-Sydney 10-21-31
7. Johns Hopkins 32-3-35
8. Williams 16-20-36
9. Swarthmore 7-42-49
10. UW Oshkosh 37-12-49
11. Mount Union 17-33-50
Note: Guilford (45-4-49) would have met the criteria if they made the tournament.
Checking in on this: 9 of the 11 teams listed advanced to the Sweet 16, which is the maximum number as Christopher Newport and Hampden-Sydney played against each other and so too did Williams and St. Joe's.
These took a big hit yesterday with St. Joe's and Johns Hopkins falling to teams that did not meet the criteria but there is a chance that all four regional champions come from this list today, although it could also just be 1, the winner of Oshkosh and Mount Union.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 10, 2023, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 10, 2023, 08:44:57 PM
Oswego is very athletic defensively, Sparks, Anderson, Green are all tough matchups, with their length and quickness.
Nice win for the Lakers. Congrats to Coach Leone and his charges. Toughest possible environment and they came away with the W and ended a 63 game home court win streak.
I'm thinking that this is the biggest win for a SUNYAC team since Welsh left Potsdam for Iona. Your thoughts on that topic?
Oh, and I can't be the only central New York product who thinks that the RMC broadcaster's constant pronunciation of the Lakers' school as "Ozz-WAY-go State" is the play-by-play equivalent of fingernails on a blackboard.
Potsdam coached by Sherry Dobbs - had a win over unbeaten & #3 St. John Fisher in 2005 at this same spot in the tournament [Sweet Sixteen] but couldn't get past eventual #2 Rochester to get to the final four.
That was on a Neutral court [in a snowstorm], as Amherst was hosting 3 NY schools.
The Laker's win last night on RMC's home court, adds quite a few degree of difficulty points.
I think Curle's Plattsburgh teams and at least one [either Leone or Broderick's] Oswego team also played in the Sweet Sixteen, but did not advance.
Oswego last night, played their starters far more than they normally do, only 21 minutes off the bench.
They average 60 minutes from the bench for the season, so we shall see if that maximum effort last night impacts their play tonight.
No SUNYAC team has made the Final Four since the undefeated 1986 Potsdam team.
My brother in law is an Oswego native, he says Oz-wego.
Whitewater
Swarthmore
Christopher-Newport
Mt. Union
Not the be all and end all, and Newport certainly got close last year, but have to feel good for 3 teams---Mount Union, Christopher Newport, and Swarthmore getting to the Final Four after both being two wins away in 2020
Mount Union vs UW-Whitewater in the Final Four. Now where have I seen that before?
Teams that made both the men and women tournaments:
Babson M: Pool A, L (n) Utica 72-60; W: Pool C, W vs ME Maritime 69-44
W vs SUNY New Paltz 76-66
W vs Marietta 73-59
L vs Rhode Island College 47-60
Chris Newport M: Pool A, W (n) Farmingdale St 61-60; W: Pool A, W vs Brooklyn 89-52
W @ Hampden-Sydney 72-59; W vs Elizabethtown 66-55
W vs Mary Hardin-Baylor 72-60; W (n) Wartburg 60-51
W vs Wheaton 76-70; W @ Tufts 72-56
(n) Swarthmore (n) Rhode Island College
Emory M: Pool C, L @ Hampden-Sydney 59-63; W: Pool C, L (n) Millikin 70-76
Hope M: Pool A, W (n) Bethany Lutheran 79-65; W: Pool A, W vs St Norbert 82-61
L @ UW-Oshkosh 50-51; L vs Wartburg 67-81
Johns Hopkins M: Pool C, W vs Mitchell 89-71; W: Pool C, L (n) Skidmore 59-62
W vs Hamilton 81-71
L (n) UW-Whitewater 82-83 OT
La Roche M: Pool A, L @ Stockton 70-86; W: Pool A, L @ Ithaca 42-58
Mary Washington M: Pool C, W (n) St Lawrence 69-42; W: Pool C, W (n) Roger Williams 69-60
L @ Stockton 65-68; W @ DeSales 75-69
L @ Smith 65-68 OT
Marymount M: Pool A, L @ Oswego St 62-80; W: Pool A, L (n) St John Fisher 72-80
Mitchell M: Pool A, L @ Johns Hopkins 71-89; W: Pool A, L @ DeSales 60-78
NYU M: Pool C, L (n) Lancaster Bible 64-67; W: Pool A, W (n) Greensboro 71-54
W @ Messiah 62-41
W (n) Trine 66-49
L @ Transylvania 63-79
Rowan M: Pool A, W vs Cal Lutheran 83-77; W: Pool A, L (n) RI College 59-67
W vs Utica 83-72
L (n) UW-Oshkosh 72-91
Scranton M: Pool A, W (n) NC Wesleyan 65-64; W: Pool A, W vs St Joseph's (ME) 64-45
L @ Randolph-Macon 41-63; L vs Rhode Island College 55-62
St John Fisher M: Pool A, W (n) Whitworth 74-59; W: Pool A, W (n) Marymount 80-72
L @ Swarthmore 78-101; L @ Smith 64-65
St Norbert M: Pool A, W (n) Carleton 81-77; W: Pool A, L @ Hope 61-82
L @ Wheaton 71-75
Tufts M: Pool C, W (n) Widener 78-66; W: Pool A, W vs Merchant Marine 72-57
L @ Keene St 72-77; W vs Skidmore 59-50
W vs Trinity (TX) 65-52
L vs Chris Newport 56-72
UW-Oshkosh M: Pool C, W vs Fontbonne 86-58; W: Pool C, W (n) Wash & Lee 58-55
W vs Hope 51-50; L @ Ohio Northern 60-71
W (n) Rowan 91-72
L @ Mount Union 67-78
UW-Whitewater M: Pool A, W (n) Wabash 90-83; W: Pool A, W vs Webster 69-50
W @ Case Western Reserve 78-75; W vs Gustavus Adolphus 68-63
W (n) Johns Hopkins 83-82 OT; L (n) Trinity (CT) 56-63
W (n) Oswego St 77-74
(n) Mount Union
WashU M: Pool C, W vs Coe 69-48; W: Pool C, L (n) Trine 69-79
L vs North Park 69-72
18 made both fields
2 still have teams playing
6 men advanced farther
4 women advanced farther
7 lost same round
Interestingly, both Mary Washington teams were eliminated by a score of 68-65.
Quote from: TheOsprey on March 11, 2023, 09:48:45 PM
Mount Union vs UW-Whitewater in the Final Four. Now where have I seen that before?
A different sport, of course.
But the Swarthmore/CNU semi-final is a repeat from 2019.
If Oshkosh hadn't lost to Mount Union, Swat could've had a chance to go Nichols-Newport-Oshkosh in their last 3 games just like they did in 2019.
Quote from: y_jack_lok on March 12, 2023, 12:25:14 PM
Quote from: TheOsprey on March 11, 2023, 09:48:45 PM
Mount Union vs UW-Whitewater in the Final Four. Now where have I seen that before?
A different sport, of course.
But the Swarthmore/CNU semi-final is a repeat from 2019.
I like this semi-final better-- clearly fascinating. Swat really had no business winning, but they found a way. The other sport at this level is too (yawning)... predictable.
Saw parts of 2 entertaining semi finals last night. Apparently CNU wanted Swarthmore to win as they missed 4 FTs in a row to keep Swarthmore within 3. Swarthmore said, "Thanks, but no thanks, you can play in the Naty." and missed two game-tying 3s at the end.
Whitewater blew a late 20-pt 1st half lead to lose to Mount Union, despite the Purple Raiders shooting 1-18 from 3. The Warhawks were very charitable at the line, going 16-28, because they felt bad that Mount Union was missing so many 3s.
Just read the D3hoops piece on the game tomorrow. Who is Trey Nelson? :D :P
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 02, 2023, 03:55:15 PM
In D1 basketball, all but 1 of the national champions since 2002 have had a combined KenPom adjusted offensive and adjusted defensive efficiency that adds up to less than 50, i.e, the 1st ranked offense and the 48th ranked defense, or the 24th ranked offense and the 25th ranked defense.
I took Matt Snyder's rankings and applied the same thing to this year's field---offense is listed first, followed by defense, and then sorted by the total:
1. Oswego St. 3-6-9
2. Randolph Macon 8-2-10
3. St. Joseph's CT 13-1-14
4. Christopher Newport 4-18-22
5. Keene St. 18-11-29
6. Hampden-Sydney 10-21-31
7. Johns Hopkins 32-3-35
8. Williams 16-20-36
9. Swarthmore 7-42-49
10. UW Oshkosh 37-12-49
11. Mount Union 17-33-50
Note: Guilford (45-4-49) would have met the criteria if they made the tournament.
Bingo
Quote from: CNU85 on March 17, 2023, 03:47:07 PM
Just read the D3hoops piece on the game tomorrow. Who is Trey Nelson? :D :P
Thanks for fixing that! ;D
Omg
Christopher Newport teams are now 11-0 in the tournament with the women reaching the final in a couple weeks.
I was screaming at the TV with about 20 seconds..."hold the ball!!!" Early in the game I think I dislocated my elbow punching the couch when we were shooting 6%. I had the Lady Captains game on my iPad. I nearly broke that when I jumped up and knocked it over. I'm too old for this excitement. But I will take it!
You want to know how even the championship game was? Using my standard scoring for fantasy leagues, CNU and Mount Union had the same total: 118 fantasy points.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 19, 2023, 05:36:23 PM
You want to know how even the championship game was? Using my standard scoring for fantasy leagues, CNU and Mount Union had the same total: 118 fantasy points.
That's crazy! It was indeed an even matchup. UMU is a powerful team and will be back in the thick of it all next year. They had a tremendous season. Congrats to them!
and just for fun...I went back to the CNU/MU football matchup in the NCAAs in 2012. MU dropped 72 on us in that game as well!!!
;D ;D
Quote from: CNU85 on March 19, 2023, 06:43:40 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 19, 2023, 05:36:23 PM
You want to know how even the championship game was? Using my standard scoring for fantasy leagues, CNU and Mount Union had the same total: 118 fantasy points.
That's crazy! It was indeed an even matchup. UMU is a powerful team and will be back in the thick of it all next year. They had a tremendous season. Congrats to them!
and just for fun...I went back to the CNU/MU football matchup in the NCAAs in 2012. MU dropped 72 on us in that game as well!!!
;D ;D
ROTFL, but this time you dropped 74 on UMU!