Any HPU Scores?

I can see McMurry winning this weekend against HSU.  Good luck to both teams.

Quote from: proudmcmdad on October 12, 2009, 08:02:38 PM
HPUdad & HPU Back-up,
HPU has been in much the same shape (a little better) as McM since Adam King left.  Multiple coaches, not competitive with the MHB's and HSU's.
No shame to being the back up to King, in my opinion he was the best athlete I saw in the ASC.  Maybe not the very best athlete, but his speed and strong arm made him the most dangerous athlete in the league.
I think there are enough good football players in West Texas to allow HPU and McM to have competitive teams in the ASC if the schools can get a good coach that is willing to stay around and establish a program.
Concerned that McM coach will leave after next year (obviously a heck of a coach), just hope he has turned us around enough to let us change the culture of the football program.
Wish more of all the schools would post on the board, not just MHB and HSU fans.

proudmcmdad

Congrats on the win over HPU.  I knew when McMurry got their new coach that he would turn things around quickly.

The coaching staff at HPU only in their second season together and the Offense Coord is young and doesn't have a lot of coaching experience.  I think Coach Fanara will be around for a while.  He is good for HPU Football.  I'm thinking that it will be a couple of more seasons before HPU is back to what they were.  The improvement over last season can already be seen.  Last year HPU only had two seniors on the team.  You can look at their roster and see more than that now.

The big thing for McMurry will be trying to keep Coach Mumme at McMurry.  That could be tough.  He is a known name that has had success.

Best of luck to McMurry "Indians" the rest of the season.  Hopefully HPU can pull off some more wins this season.  

Quote from: HPU Back-Up on October 01, 2009, 04:08:29 PM

Quote from: hpudad on October 01, 2009, 02:13:14 PM

Quote from: HPU Back-Up on September 30, 2009, 11:10:49 AM
I've been reading these Post patterns for 9 years now and played at Howard Payne from 2000-2004...  There used to be some HPU updates from time-to-time on here...   Does anyone know what the hell is going on in Brownwood???  how did we get so bad??  

I know a little on this subject since my son played at HPU from 2005 to 2008.

Lets see the coach that recruited him wasn't the coach his first year.  The coach they had that first year (Redwine) was a good coach.  They were pretty good that year,  went 7-3 and gave UMHB their last confernece loss.  

Before Coach Redwine HPU was predominately a passing team (Adam King).  The staff tried to make them more balanced between the pass and run.  Coach Redwine lasted three (3) seasons at HPU.  He was not forced to leave.  

The current coach was on Coach Redwine's staff as the DC.

So since 2004 there has been three different headcoaches at HPU.  Not a lot of consistance in recruiting.

During the 2005 to 2008 seasons HPU had good teams but not teams that could overcome their own mistakes.  They would have turnovers and penalties that would kill drives.

If you want to know more PM me.

Thanks for the summary... tough to swallow...  I actually backed up Adam King for 4 years... Somehow HPU always had great athletes on both sides of the ball... just seems like they aren't getting the recruits to come down there anymore...  its a hard place to recruit because there is really nothing to do in Brownwood unless you're a hunter...  But good to know some HPU people still read and post...  I played for Vance Gibson and heard he is one of the highest paid 4A coaches in the state and was a finalist a few years back for the South Lake Carroll job...  Underwoods Best BBQ in Texas...  My first year at HPU our coaches banned us from posting on this website the same way these DI programs are banning their players from Twitter and Facebook...   Sting'em

I think the current staff will be their for a while.  They staff is young though.  A couple of former HSU Cowboys are coaches (Jordon Neal and Lance Unger
).  HPU is getting better but so are all of the teams in the ASC.  Hopefully Coach Fanara will get the program turned around and competiting again.

Quote from: HPU Back-Up on September 30, 2009, 11:10:49 AM
I've been reading these Post patterns for 9 years now and played at Howard Payne from 2000-2004...  There used to be some HPU updates from time-to-time on here...   Does anyone know what the hell is going on in Brownwood???  how did we get so bad??  

I know a little on this subject since my son played at HPU from 2005 to 2008.

Lets see the coach that recruited him wasn't the coach his first year.  The coach they had that first year (Redwine) was a good coach.  They were pretty good that year,  went 7-3 and gave UMHB their last confernece loss.  

Before Coach Redwine HPU was predominately a passing team (Adam King).  The staff tried to make them more balanced between the pass and run.  Coach Redwine lasted three (3) seasons at HPU.  He was not forced to leave.  

The current coach was on Coach Redwine's staff as the DC.

So since 2004 there has been three different headcoaches at HPU.  Not a lot of consistance in recruiting.

During the 2005 to 2008 seasons HPU had good teams but not teams that could overcome their own mistakes.  They would have turnovers and penalties that would kill drives.

If you want to know more PM me.

HPU 56
Beacone 7

Final

HPU starts 2-0

Well its over...

My son graduated from HPU this month.  He will not be playing football anymore, other than maybe flag.  It has been fun.  With Pop Warner, Junior High, High School and 4 years at HPU, I've been watching him play for the last 13 years and loved every minute of it.

He is continuing his academic career though; he will start Law School in August.

I'm not sure what I will do now with my Saturdays... I like Division III football a lot.  I guess maybe take in some games at UMHB since I live pretty close to Belton, but it will not be the same.

He had a successful career at HPU.  They beat every team in the Conference at least once.  He was on the HPU team that gave UMHB their last ASC loss.  That was a great game.  He played on the team that beat HSU at their home coming in OT.  He was the Deep Snapper on the winning extra point.  This was a highlight of a tough season.

He has had to deal with some adversity also.  The coach that recruited him wasn't the coach he played for his freshman year.  HPU had another coaching change before his senior season.  Coaching changes are tough on team chemistry.  The changes had effects as He was only one of two seniors on this last HPU team.

So I guess I will still support HPU Football, enough of my money went there, but it will not be the same.

I guess my message to all is enjoy watching your son or daughter compete and play the games they love because unfortunately it ends.  I guess I will have to wait for grandchildren...

Actually the HPU players were told of the decision by Coach Redwine the day before the TLU game.  I think the transition in head coaches will not be as difficult since Coach Fanara has been with the team for the last three seasons.  I wonder how much of the coaching staff will change?

I was at the HPU vs HSU game this weekend.  The first thing I want to say is that both teams played tough and to the best of their abilities, something HPU hasn't done in enough games this year, and that both teams played till the end.  I posted earlier that I am a numbers guy and looking at the stats found some interesting facts.

                               HPU                      HSU
Pass-Comp-Int     45-29-0                 28-21-1
Pass Yds                  349                      329
Rushing Att-Yds     33-96                   28-173
Fumbles #-Lost       2-0                        1-1  (The Turnovers (Fumble & Int) did not result in HPU points)
Penalties #-Yds     8-53                     12-142
TOP by QTR
1st                        11:32                      3:28
2nd                         5:39                      9:21
3rd                          6:21                      4:53  (Don't know who had the ball the rest of the time)
4th                          7:52                      7:08

This is the only game this season where HPU controled the Time of Possesion (TOP), Turnovers, and Penalties in a game.

What I didn't understand in this game was HPU won the toss and defered to the second half and HSU chose to kick with the wind.  Why did HSU make that decision?  That gave HPU the ball first in both halfs.   I would be greatful if some HSU fan or someone in the know could explain this decision to me.

The hit by Austin happend in front of where I was setting.  Austin was being blocked by the WR and as the runner came by he was able to shead the block and make the hit.  The HSU player was looking to his left and didn't even see him there.

I wish HPU could have played with this intensity and control all season.

Best of luck to both teams the rest of the season.

I'm glad someone has asked about HPU and why they look to be going down hill because I didn't want to start the subject.  I'm kind of a numbers guy and l have been looking at at 4 different areas stats, Passing (Attempts-Completitions-Interceptions), Turnovers (Fumbles), Penalties, and Time of Possession (TOP) for HPU Football for the last three years(2005, 2006 and the games played through 2007).

2005 Stats
Passes Completition - 62.5 %
Opponents Pass Completition - 53.9%
Passes Interception -  10.7% (This was derived by the passes intercepted by the number of not completed passes)
Opponents Passes Interception - 17.5% (This was the year HPU set the ASC record for Pass Interceptions ina Season at 29)
Fumbles Loss - 63.6% of the Balls fumbled the opponent recovered.
Opponents Fumble Lost - 30.8% of the opponents Bass fumbled HPU recovered.
Penatility Avg - 8 for 66 Yds per game
Opp Penality Avg - 6 for 54 Yds Per game
HPU Avg TOP - 30:16
OPP Avg TOP - 29:44

HPU Season 7-3

2006 Stats
Passes Completition - 55.6 %
Opponents Pass Completition - 50.3%
Passes Interception -  9.8% (This was derived by the passes intercepted by the number of not completed passes)
Opponents Passes Interception - 7.8%
Fumbles Loss - 72.2% of the Balls fumbled the opponent recovered.
Opponents Fumble Lost - 42.9% of the opponents Bass fumbled HPU recovered.
Penatility Avg - 5 for 37 Yds per game
Opp Penality Avg - 8 for 80 Yds Per game
HPU Avg TOP - 29:55
OPP Avg TOP - 30:05

HPU Season 5-5

2007 Stats Through 6 Games
Passes Completition - 52.0 %
Opponents Pass Completition - 47.4%
Passes Interception -  10.7% (This was derived by the passes intercepted by the number of not completed passes)
Opponents Passes Interception - 7.9%
Fumbles Loss - 61.1% of the Balls fumbled the opponent recovered.
Opponents Fumble Lost - 72.7% of the opponents Bass fumbled HPU recovered.
Penatility Avg - 9 for 72 Yds per game
Opp Penality Avg - 10 for 73 Yds Per game
HPU Avg TOP - 29:24
OPP Avg TOP - 30:36

HPU Season 0-6

Out of all the statas what stands out to me is that HPU turns the ball over way too much.  Out of the past three season (so far) HPU has only had two games where they didn't turn the ball over to the opponent and they were in 2005.  Turnovers are drive and game killers and turn the momentum of the game.  They do not allow you to control the clock and they keep the defense out on the field too long.

Quote form the Killeen Daily Herald

Louisiana College coach Dennis Dunn said there wasn't much that his team could do against the Cru.

"We don't have anybody that could have made a difference," he said. "I appreciate them calling off the dogs. They could have scored 100."

It appears that UMHB is on track to go to the Stagg Bowl.

Well it has been a while since I have posted.  I haven't had much to post about this season.

I will say that I think HPU has decided on a QB.  Throwing for 500 yards with no Interceptions is quite an accomplishment. 

HPU has lost 4 games by a total of 18 points and they were leading in the 4th quarter in all of them.  It has been frustrating as a  HPU fan.

What are yyour thoughts?

I've read these post about UMHB and the "Swagger" and "Confidence."  Do you think that too much swagger and confidence can be bad for a team?  The Swagger and Confidence must be complemented with a dose fo Respect for your opponent.  In UMHB's game against HPU, in Brownwood, a couple of years ago I'm not sure that UMHB had any respect for HPU and may have taken them lightly.

In my opinion though UMHB has more depth than any team in the ASC.  I think other teams in the ASC have players that are as good as the players at UMHB but just not as many.  That is what gives UMHB the edge over all of the other teams in the ASC.  Also UMHB coach has been at the school since the start of the program, that has to help.

HPU has 140 report for practice.

Since Coach Redwine first year, his recruiting numbers have increased each year.  I think the 1st year was around 100, 2nd year around 120 and now 140. 

I was think of enrollment and location as part of recruiting.  Abilene is a nice size city.  Belton is less than a hour drive from Austin.  Pineville is across the river from Alexandra.  Is an athlete more interested in playing in front of larger crowds?  School enrollment would have an effect in that as far as recruiting goes.  What about student make up (male / female student ratio) does that have an effect in recruiting? 

Is there a correlation between enrollment and athletics?  UMHB and HSU are in the top three in the ASC in enrollment and look at the year that HSU and UMHB had in all sports not just football.  The other schools in the ASC had their moments in other sports. 

I think we need to remember that these schools are all DIII and do not give athletic scholarships.  Why are there more students at some schools than at others?  I understand that whole thing about reputations and traditions at various schools.  I agree that the length of time that the coaching staff has been in place is a factor but is there more?