Quote from: robertgoulet on December 09, 2024, 04:10:43 PMI am having fleeting memories of an NCC playoff game vs a team that ran the option but my mind is gone enough that I can't remember if it even happened, let alone who/when it would have been.

2006 Season, CUW upset the Cardinals Week 1 and then in the first round NCC won 35-6. They ran some triple option.

Quote from: matblake on December 21, 2007, 03:29:58 PM

Quote from: Mugsy on December 20, 2007, 12:43:40 PM
For those WIAC posters bemoaning why CCIW teams won't schedule WIAC teams, Wheaton has updated it's future schedules on the Wheaton website.

Wheaton will play UW-Platteville in 2010 and 2011.  Their other 2 non-conference opponents for those seasons have not be set yet (or at least posted).

As pointed out by usee and myself, Wheaton's 2008 and 2009 non-conference slate should be quite challenging.  3 recent playoff teams - Bethel (semi-finals this year), Concordia (Wis.) and Hope.

I for one am really looking forward to see the Bethel/Wheaton matchup.  It will be interesting to see how 2 of the top programs from the MIAC and the CCIW match up.  Anyone know offhand, is the most recent matchup of the CCIW v MIAC when Wheaton played Gustavus Adolphus in 2005?

I believe so, NCC played Augsburg in 2005 as well.

Best of luck to the Mount tomorrow for a safe and good game...looking forward to watching it on ESPN.

Quote from: REDMAN04 IS MY DADDY! on December 13, 2007, 09:29:01 PM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 13, 2007, 07:35:52 AM
"Somewhat surprised"?  He's a starter on a Big Ten team that's going to the Rose Bowl, Ex-Billy. Are you really so intensely wrapped up in Wheaton football that you can't imagine how Ware could be happier in his present situation?

I didn't see anywhere that he is a starter.

Yes, maybe I'm holding on too tight like Cougar.  But, I haven't lost that Wheaton loving feeling.  And, the guys that sell out for the program, usually don't.

I believe he sees some significant playing time at DT, but he isn't a starter. He is listed as the backup to David Lindquist according to rivals.

http://illinois.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp

Quote from: Hiker Jim on December 07, 2007, 08:30:07 PM
Ittersagen makes the North all-region team on both sides of the ball.  That's a nice accomplishment and can't be one that happens too often.

Or maybe I should say that Ittersagen made the all-Mount Union team?

Congrats to all the CCIW mentions on the All North team including the two offensive lineman from NCC on the FIRST team. Delancy and Kasper.

Quote from: usee on December 02, 2007, 01:44:03 PM

Quote from: NCC_alum62 on November 30, 2007, 11:08:46 AM

Quote from: FormerCard on November 29, 2007, 10:03:44 AM

Quote from: CardinalAlum on November 29, 2007, 08:35:48 AM
Congrats to the 3 CCIW players that have been selected to play in the Aztec Bowl!

OL-Kasper-NCC
OL-Verhelst-Augie
DB-Moore-Carthage

http://www.d3football.com/notables.php

Do you think any of these guys have a chance to play after college?  Besides Studebaker, has anyone else got any looks in our conference?

In a word no...

In more words:

I'm sure that Verhelst or Kasper could play semi pro or maybe one of the Arena leagues, but I don't think there is a pro team that would pick up a D-III Lineman.  Allen from Whitworth comes closest as a TE and he put up some great numbers as a reciever and had one of the best workouts at the combine for his position.

Studebaker's chances of being invited to the combine (last I heard) were in doubt because of his injury.

Verhelst and Kasper, while both have had excellent careers, I doubt either will be invited to Indianapolis and who's to say they would want to.  I've been around some guys that have tried (and for at least a training camp) and have made an NFL roster (this isn't boasting) and one of them actually told me he felt as though some years had been taken off of his life after the experience.  And this was a guy who played at Notre Dame and had practiced and played against some great DE's and DT's everyday.

Only the best of the best make it in the trenches in the NFL.  The biggest, strongest, meanest S.O.B.'s you can think of are the ones that play at the next level, let alone succeed or thrive.   Not that there are not great OL/DL in DIII, but there isn't a daily top to bottom excellence in the trenches in DIII and I think that leaves many linemen woefully unprepared for the next level. 

How many 6'7'' 330 lb tackles that do 35 or more bench reps has Studebaker gone up against? How Many Joe Staley's (who runs a 4.7 40 at 6'5' 300) has he had to defeat on a pass rush? There isn't a single lineman in DIII that is at that level of size, strength, and athleticism rolled into one. 

I wish Andy well, and that he gets picked up, its great for DIII, but the realist in me says that while a return man or a great skill position gem in DIII can make it, its even tougher for an NFL coach to draft a DIII lineman (at either side of the ball) because he knows that this kid hasn't even come close to seeing some of the freak athletes that play in the trenches at the DI level.

NCC-62,

a couple notable exceptions: Tom Newberry was an offensive lineman at UW LaCrosse and played 10 yrs in the NFL including a superbowl with the 49ers. More recently Jason Trusnik, a defensive end from Ohio Northern who last played there in 2006, is on the active roster for the New York Jets. Trusnik is very similar in build to Studebaker but Andy is physically a better specimen. I never saw Trusnik play but reports from people I trust say he was not only physically dominant at ONU but very football smart. If there is a knock on Andy, I don't know who football smart he is. but it would be hard to find a more talented player physically than Andy. Any NFL team would love to have him running down the field on kick offs and punts and working his way into an NFL lineup. I am not saying it will happen but, if he recovers fully, he will definately get a shot.

I stand correctd, however Trusnik plays OLB in a 3-4 (Not a down lineman) and Newberry was drafted in 1986 which is not within my recent memory, but thats one guy that is truely in the trenchs in IMHO.

Quote from: FormerCard on November 29, 2007, 10:03:44 AM

Quote from: CardinalAlum on November 29, 2007, 08:35:48 AM
Congrats to the 3 CCIW players that have been selected to play in the Aztec Bowl!

OL-Kasper-NCC
OL-Verhelst-Augie
DB-Moore-Carthage

http://www.d3football.com/notables.php

Do you think any of these guys have a chance to play after college?  Besides Studebaker, has anyone else got any looks in our conference?

In a word no...

In more words:

I'm sure that Verhelst or Kasper could play semi pro or maybe one of the Arena leagues, but I don't think there is a pro team that would pick up a D-III Lineman.  Allen from Whitworth comes closest as a TE and he put up some great numbers as a reciever and had one of the best workouts at the combine for his position.

Studebaker's chances of being invited to the combine (last I heard) were in doubt because of his injury.

Verhelst and Kasper, while both have had excellent careers, I doubt either will be invited to Indianapolis and who's to say they would want to.  I've been around some guys that have tried (and for at least a training camp) and have made an NFL roster (this isn't boasting) and one of them actually told me he felt as though some years had been taken off of his life after the experience.  And this was a guy who played at Notre Dame and had practiced and played against some great DE's and DT's everyday.

Only the best of the best make it in the trenches in the NFL.  The biggest, strongest, meanest S.O.B.'s you can think of are the ones that play at the next level, let alone succeed or thrive.   Not that there are not great OL/DL in DIII, but there isn't a daily top to bottom excellence in the trenches in DIII and I think that leaves many linemen woefully unprepared for the next level. 

How many 6'7'' 330 lb tackles that do 35 or more bench reps has Studebaker gone up against? How Many Joe Staley's (who runs a 4.7 40 at 6'5' 300) has he had to defeat on a pass rush? There isn't a single lineman in DIII that is at that level of size, strength, and athleticism rolled into one. 

I wish Andy well, and that he gets picked up, its great for DIII, but the realist in me says that while a return man or a great skill position gem in DIII can make it, its even tougher for an NFL coach to draft a DIII lineman (at either side of the ball) because he knows that this kid hasn't even come close to seeing some of the freak athletes that play in the trenches at the DI level.

Quote from: cardinaldad on November 18, 2007, 12:24:29 AM
I see that UWW has a grass playing surface. I hope NCC buys different shoes for their players. Today's game at Franklin was NCC's first game on grass this year. In their turf shoes, our backs and receivers slipped and fell several times on potential big plays.

If you look at the photos from the game you can clearly see that NCC is wearing spikes.

It is possible that they should have used longer spikes. They look a little short. Are those what you would consider "turf shoes?"  (No sarcasim or anything intended, I've seen two different kinds of turf spikes one are the shorter cleats and others are a kind of bumped (not cleated) sole)

It's been a while folks.  I've been keeping quiet recently dealing with some non football things and some coaching football things. Glad to be back...

Glad to see the Cardinals doing so well and winning another play-off game under Thorne.  The Cardinals face thier toughest opponent by far in UWW.

I think we're going to see more CCIW-WIAC matchups in comming years because (and Pat please correct me if I'm wrong) the NCAA changed the way regional rankings were calculated to allow schools in different regions to compete if they were within 500 miles.  It used to be that if you played out of region that hurt the possibility of going to the play-offs.  That was some years ago and with that being changed (I believe, once again I differ to Pat) I would expect even more CCIW-WIAC matchups.

With that being said most CCIW schools schedules are set up some years in advance and will take a little time to cycle to the next open date.  This is all speculation IMHO.

Also, WIAC schools are having trouble scheduling ANYONE in DIII, so lets not pick on the CCIW alone for being WIAC wary.

UW-Eau Claire: 2 non DIII opponents (2-0)
UW-La Crosse: 1 non DIII opponent (1-0)
UW-Platteville: 2 non DIII opponents (1-1)
UW-Stevens Point: 3 non DIII opponents (3-0)
UW-Stout: 1 non DIII opponent (0-1)
UW-Whitewater: 1 non DIII opponent (0-1)

Every school that has a football program "recruits" now the level to which they recruit differs.  Some are more passive than others.  But the bottom line is there is a recruiting process at CWRU.

Before you badmouth Pat for taking statistics from a Government Website submitted by the University President, please check CWRU's football page to at least see that they actually recruit.

http://www.case.edu/athletics/varsity/fall/football/

Football Homepage for CWRU

http://www.case.edu/athletics/varsity/athleteform.htm

Athletic Recruit questionarie link for CWRU athletics.

And then some +K for you and for Comet

Quote from: matblake on September 21, 2007, 01:04:36 PM
Here you go reality check.

darn it...I asked if Mount Union would suck the rest of this year...and it answered No Way!

You heard it here folks there is no way Mount will suck this year. 

Quote from: Comet 14 on September 21, 2007, 11:42:36 AM
Easr boys remember the saying when you see a young girl that " she is somebodies daughter" in this case mine.

Haha, absolutly no disrespect intended in any way.

Good luck to both your kids, one on the field and the other avoiding Jaybird  ok ok last joke about any of this.

Quote from: New Tradition on September 21, 2007, 10:32:22 AM

Quote from: Billy Pilgrim on September 21, 2007, 07:32:56 AM
Also, what other CCIW teams offer webcasting?

The North Central Wash U. game can be found at www.wonc.org.  Just click on "listen live."   The students ususally do a pretty decent job, if i may say so myself. 

Considering you were one of them...

Yes the students do a nice job, they could mention the score and time left in the game a few more times than they do though.    The feed sometimes has technical difficulties, but normally its very clear.