when do you think we will be able to watch MIAA games on the internet... why don't any school set that up... live stats aren't good enough anymore..its 2008..lets stay up with technology

anyone want to put together an all decade MIAA team?

You put Schaeefer and Walter in front of Cramer, Rhinehart and Qualye.  They both have better numbers than all 3 of those guys.  Qualye to me was a guy who could of been a lot more dominated if he didn't play for Coach Turner.  I think Turner held him back.  If i am correct i do not think Qualye started until his senior year.  Qualye only scored a little more than a 1000 points.. schaefer had over 1500 and walter had over 1600. 

bionbrit

I like your list...but I disagree with not putting schaefer and walter on the list.  I could see brooks not being on the list because he was so one dimensional.  you said Walter and Aultman played the same position but walter only played the 4  his senior year because Adrian was so small.  I think he played most of his career as a small forward.  As i think about it Aultman should be on there..he did score 1000 points in 2 years.

But I think Schaefer has to be on the list because if you look at the Adrian program there weren't many winning seasons before him or after him.  Even the year he sat out with injury they went 13-14 and that was with brooks and walter.  Plus you have to look at all the points, assist and steals with him.  He was probably the most complete player on the list offensively and defensively. 

SAC...i loved your top 10 teams.. so I thought I would give you my top 10 players since  1999...I am sure people will disagree but its still fun to debate.  Here are my top 10 players in no order..

1.  Aaron Winkle
2. Jeremy Veenstra
3. Don Overbeek
4. Micheal Thomas
5. Travis Depree
6. Brandon Crawford
7. Dan Walter
8. Brian Schaefer
9. Steve Brooks
10.Dirk Rhinehart


honorable Mention:  Brett Quayle,  Dan Aultman,  Anthony Jones( he is top 10 for sure if he doesn't transfer) Stephen Cramer,  Ryan Klingler

I am sure people will disagree but those top 10 really left a lasting impression of me when i saw them play.. I would love to see other posters top 10 players.

Thank you mjfast...i know other hope posters remember that dunk from the tri-state game...

actually the best dunk ever happened against hope about 3  years ago at the civic  center against tri-state.  Dave hutter of tri-state stole the ball, dunked it over i believe Imminck and the ref called it a charge.  It was the sickest dunk i have ever seen in a d3 basketball game.

do any hope posters remember this one? 

Nokovich is the best pt guard in the league.  If he played on Calvin, Albion, or Hope, He would average 10 assists a game.  There is noone on Adrian who can score.  He has been the best Pt gaurd in the league since his sophomore year. 

Adrian doesnt have a list for career assists.  They only have who is the all time leader.  Nokovich has to be in the top 5 i would think.  Maybe someone can find the answer to this...

DOESNT MATTER IF COLLINS SCORES 40, AC WILL NOT WIN.  COLLINS ISNT THE SAME PLAYER WITHOUT SCHAFFER ON THE COURT WITH HIM.  HE DOESNT GET THE EASY BASKETS HE DID THE LAST 2 YEARS.  SOME PLAYERS JUST NEED OTHER GOOD PLAYERS AROUND THEM TO SCORE AND COLLINS IS ONE OF THOSE PLAYERS.

AS WE CAN SEE, CRAWFORD DOES NOT NEED DEPREE AND THOMAS AROUND TO BE A GREAT PLAYER.  MAYBE SOME NATIONAL PLAYER OF THE YEAR CONSIDERATION FOR HIM?  DONT THINK THERE IS A PLAYER IN THE NATION WHO COULD STOP THE BIG MAN.  WE WILL SEE HOW HE DOES ON SATURDAY VS CALVIN AND MECKES.  SHOULD BE A GREAT BATTLE DOWN LOW. 

Does anyone know why Mark Barnes of Alma and Brandon Giles of Adrianwho just won player of the week are not in the box scores? 

FDF, i take it you are being sarcastic? 

FDF,
Alma might be better off without Jones.  Its addition by subtraction.  I know Adrian was better the year after Brooks and Walter graduated.  I could be wrong but its just a thought.

Thanks Sac, The starters are usually the first 5 players.  I didnt even think about it.
Crawford is early season MVP for sure

Does anyone know why Brandon Crawford didnt start the last 2 games.  He still scored 30 though the other night?

Brandon Crawford scores 38 points on 17 for 20 shooting in just 31 minutes.  He also had 13 rebounds.  The brits did lose to UM Dearborn 88-77...It looks like they had no support to go with Crawford. 

Adrian gets smoked by a good Bethany team 83-54.  One guy in double figures for the bulldawgs.  No Mike Lewis in the box score though.  I wonder if he didnt get in or if he isnt playing. 

Olivet with a 50 point win against Andrews.  I dont know if Olivet is really good or Andrews is really bad but 50 points is still an impressive victory no matter who its against.  I am guessing Andrews isn't a very good team.