Also, you give him credit for getting the most out of less talented teams. This isn't highschool football. The talent level reflects his ability as a recruiter. And its not as if he was hired recently. This is his 9th or 10th season. All the players are his players. You have to be kidding me. Your take about him getting the most out of less talent is the single DUMBEST argument possible for that guy being a good coach.
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
September 22, 2006, 06:04:20 PM #2
Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
September 22, 2006, 05:57:20 PM
Wow, quite a response. First off, to the admin: I'm sorry for the name I tried to get through with earlier. I thought it would be funny; obviously it wasn't. But that wasn't a fake email address. It was real and I got two emails from D3: one was the initial email with my username and password and then a second that said it was not approved. I'll take flak for what I deserve, but nothing more.
Secondly, to lynxcat. I am neither a former player or the parent of a former player. I am a former Rhodes athlete, though. And from everything I saw in my time at Rhodes, I absolutely stand by what I have posted. The coach of the year honor should go to Dan Swanstrom because he CARRIED that team. He was an outstanding player and leader. That team was 7-3 and should have won atleast two of those three losses. But here is my question: Why 5-5 during Swanstrom's senior season? That team was LOADED, but the staff couldn't take advantage. Besides that '03 season, the Lynx have been mediocre to bad. At some point, you have to blame the coaches.
I don't know Coach White all too well. My experience with him is limited to seeing him walking around the BCLC with a jackass scowl on his face, making no attempt to even acknowledge anyone who doesn't play football. I know several players that didn't finish their college careers playing football and they all say the same thing: Once you quit the team, he treats you like ****. In fact, they say he goes out of his way to treat you like ****. Sure, some guys quit and it is hard to respect them, but other have legitimate reasons for quitting and there is no excuse for being downright mean to them.
Also, not sure when you were at Rhodes, but I was there when former head baseball coach Bo' Reynolds resigned. Reynolds was a good friend of White's and when the players laid out Reynolds behavior to the AD and administration he took it as a personal attack. He singled out two football/baseball players and put pressure on them until they changed their position and took up for Reynolds. That is manipulative, embarrassing behavior. It is completely unethical.
Finally, the guy regularly tries to convince freshman football/baseball players to quit baseball and focus on football. Many of these guys were recruited primarily by the baseball team, but never make out in the spring because they have chosen to play baseball. Given how he tried to manipulate two aforementioned players, I definitely wonder about how gets some of these guys to give up baseball. Threaten their standing on the football team perhaps....?
The guys career record at Rhodes isn't very good. The program isn't in good shape. And on top of that, I don't think he is that good of a person.
Secondly, to lynxcat. I am neither a former player or the parent of a former player. I am a former Rhodes athlete, though. And from everything I saw in my time at Rhodes, I absolutely stand by what I have posted. The coach of the year honor should go to Dan Swanstrom because he CARRIED that team. He was an outstanding player and leader. That team was 7-3 and should have won atleast two of those three losses. But here is my question: Why 5-5 during Swanstrom's senior season? That team was LOADED, but the staff couldn't take advantage. Besides that '03 season, the Lynx have been mediocre to bad. At some point, you have to blame the coaches.
I don't know Coach White all too well. My experience with him is limited to seeing him walking around the BCLC with a jackass scowl on his face, making no attempt to even acknowledge anyone who doesn't play football. I know several players that didn't finish their college careers playing football and they all say the same thing: Once you quit the team, he treats you like ****. In fact, they say he goes out of his way to treat you like ****. Sure, some guys quit and it is hard to respect them, but other have legitimate reasons for quitting and there is no excuse for being downright mean to them.
Also, not sure when you were at Rhodes, but I was there when former head baseball coach Bo' Reynolds resigned. Reynolds was a good friend of White's and when the players laid out Reynolds behavior to the AD and administration he took it as a personal attack. He singled out two football/baseball players and put pressure on them until they changed their position and took up for Reynolds. That is manipulative, embarrassing behavior. It is completely unethical.
Finally, the guy regularly tries to convince freshman football/baseball players to quit baseball and focus on football. Many of these guys were recruited primarily by the baseball team, but never make out in the spring because they have chosen to play baseball. Given how he tried to manipulate two aforementioned players, I definitely wonder about how gets some of these guys to give up baseball. Threaten their standing on the football team perhaps....?
The guys career record at Rhodes isn't very good. The program isn't in good shape. And on top of that, I don't think he is that good of a person.
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
September 22, 2006, 12:22:09 PM
Rhodes will get CRUSHED this weekend by Huntingdon. It won't even be close. Why, you ask? Joe White Rhodes, that's why. He is one of the worst coaches in DIII football, period. The fact that he has been at Rhodes for so long only proves that Mike Clary, the Rhodes AD, is THE WORST DIII AD in the country. Rhodes had a good win over Centre last weekend, but the magic ends this week.
Huntingdon BIG over Rhodes this weekend, mark it down.
Sorry HunterT, Lynx pride doesn't exist anymore.
Huntingdon BIG over Rhodes this weekend, mark it down.
Sorry HunterT, Lynx pride doesn't exist anymore.
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
October 06, 2005, 11:38:08 AM
Hey coachr,
I couldn't give a sh*t what you think of my post. Yeah, Steinert had a great game. What the hell is your point? He certainly didn't underachieve, but a team is far more than one player. My post was refering to the program in general, not individual performances. Get a clue. Similarly, in my last post, my reference to Swanstrom wasn't to suggest he underachieved; he was always top notch. I was instead refering to the program during his senior year. He was not the problem.
By the way, is there anything more cowardly than threats made by faceless posters on internet boards? No chance.
I couldn't give a sh*t what you think of my post. Yeah, Steinert had a great game. What the hell is your point? He certainly didn't underachieve, but a team is far more than one player. My post was refering to the program in general, not individual performances. Get a clue. Similarly, in my last post, my reference to Swanstrom wasn't to suggest he underachieved; he was always top notch. I was instead refering to the program during his senior year. He was not the problem.
By the way, is there anything more cowardly than threats made by faceless posters on internet boards? No chance.
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
October 06, 2005, 11:31:44 AM
I stand by what I said regarding Rhodes Football. Hey Swanstrom, how can you not think the team underachieves. Your senior year they went 5-5 coming off of a 7-3 season. Rhodes should have been WAY better. And take that 7-3 season; a great year, certainly, but still, three close, close losses. Could have been 10-0 and in the playoffs. My point is this: Rhodes is always competitive (most Trinity games not with standing), they just never find ways to win those close games. At some point, its not bad luck, it is systemic. That falls on the coaching staff, period.
Rhodes should compete for conference titles every season. They have a recruiting advantage over every school (Best academic school in the SCAC, rankings be damned, beautiful campus (now with new library), in an urban setting, etc.) They should rake in great talent year after year, but they are not. Pretty disappointing for Rhodes people I would think.
Rhodes should compete for conference titles every season. They have a recruiting advantage over every school (Best academic school in the SCAC, rankings be damned, beautiful campus (now with new library), in an urban setting, etc.) They should rake in great talent year after year, but they are not. Pretty disappointing for Rhodes people I would think.
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
October 03, 2005, 04:10:59 PM
RC is just miserable. Another close loss. It seems like every season, aside from Trinity, all of Rhodes' losses are very close games. They can never get over the hump so to speak. I think that kind of consistent losing is a direct byproduct of the coaches. Some people are winners, others just never seem to find ways to win in dog fights. Rhodes plays a sloppy brand of football, full of mistakes. I think they are the most underachieving team in the SCAC year in and year out.
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