Don't know...it was in papers today.  I'd guess they'd start announcing the new staff after wisc.'s bowl game (Jan.2).

GA Mangus is listed (in wisconsin newspapers) as a finalist to be one of the new assistants at the University of Wisconsin under new head coach Brett Bielema.

Can't see the Beloit hire being a positive.  In hiring someone from what looks like the same type of institution (with the same lack of committment for football), they've demonstrated that they have no significant interest in making the program more competitive.

RedmenFB44 - I am not clueless; saw them both play and was not impressed.  From the looks of the stats they didn't do too hot the rest of the year either.

Either way, neither of them are very good.

Pat - As a longtime reader of D3 I'm thourghougly disappointed in regards to your growing bias against the MWC.  Your take on the Carroll/Carthage game is the straw that broke the camels back.  As you were obviously not at the game (I'm a Carroll fan, and if you were at the game I'm sure I would have heard about it by now), you would not only know that Carthage didn't even drop 1 TD pass (although they did drop several passes, one of which would have definitely LED to a TD), but you would also know that they faked 4 punts that led directly to them winning the game (as both of their TDs were on drives extended by fake punts).   As far as the conference as a whole being bad, it is clearly not.  There are 3, maybe 4 teams that are at the top and will be for the forseeable future, and some bottom rung teams that will remain there.  Not unlike the CCIW of much of the 80s and 90s.  We may be in a different class than the WIAC, but it is not like we're the NEFC or something.  Maybe you should actually take in a MWC game sometime before passing judgement (and not just a playoff game, or a Ripon/Beloit/Grinnell game with high school offense and defense being played).   Don't get me wrong as I appreciate all that you have done for d3 football in general, but please remember that you are a conduit for the growing of our level of football, and not a decision maker (at least I don't think you are, and hope you are not).  Thanks.

Early - Your mistake again.  I was at the game (and standing about 15 feet from the end zone) and distinctly saw #49 in the end zone on Carroll's first TD early in the 2nd quarter (to make it 17-0).  Maybe your buddies are just looking for excuses.

Quade played way more than the first series in the Carroll game, and no - he would not have made a difference.  RE: Beloit, how can you possible suggest anyone from on staff?