In no way am i trying to discredit CUW but that is the worst offensive team this conference has put into the playoffs in the 6 years ive been around.  And yes BU's defense is pretty solid but wow.  that is all

thank you lem.  i forget that guys name on this board but he has been absent for the last month, since BU went on a streak.  Tough game ahead for sure but they are definitely a confident bunch now.  the key matchup will be CUWs run defense versus BU's run offense.  After my years at BU the last 20 postings or so about BU possibily being a representative is still trying to register.  But am very proud of the guys who are still there that i played with, for sticking it out during some terrible seasons.  I think it was you LEM that pointed out the loss to CUC, which is a good point.

Wow, some tension on here.  I do not know who AYKM is but again, having played under all 3 coaches I would say cooper prepares very hard.  If you have looked at the numbers the defense isnt bad, they are on the field alot, resulting in the lopsided stats.  Not saying it shouldnt be better, but the offesne is abysmal.  Maybe action in that area is required, not necessarily the head coach.  FYI, there are only 6 players that played for Murray, Mitchell, and Cooper.  So AYKM is not one of them.

However, a couple years ago, BU did beat CUC with only like 34 players dressed.  That is not to rub anything in but we always said to ourselves as players, what if we had 100 guys on the team, we would be pretty decent.  Well i think we saw the result of that last saturday.  Big numbers does not necessarily translate into wins.

It does appear CUC will go 3-0 t start conference.  They looked pretty good and the QB weeks did not even play due to injury.  I think they can beat EC and mac which would be substancial progress.  They do look different then past CUC team i will admit.

NCC Alum

I actually was a freshemn in that game u speak of in 2002 where we had 2 d-tackles go down with arm injuries.  Very odd for sure.  And the spirit pack thing was just a basic example and i may very well be wrong i have no concrete proof.,  Just my educated guess.   And as i said before he was a very good assistant like you pointed out as well.  But perhaps the responsibilities of a head coach arent for everyone, b/c he is also doing a good job with the oline at chicago.

TruCountry, i disagree that GC is a team to beat I think it is very agreeable to say its on Lakeland or Conc Wis.  I wouldnt included Aurora lately, as in the last 2 seasons because of the signficant drop off.  I truly think its LC, Conc Wis at the top, GC and AU the next 2 followed by BU and Mac, then CUC and EC.  Im not saying this is how they will finish the conf. but just an average rating of the last 2-3 seasons.  But a real positive is about 5-6 years ago, GC was in the lower half, about 6 or 7 in conf.  They have made a very respectable climb.


LC over GC
BU over CUC
CUW over EC
AU over MC

Are You Kidding Me

You are just making excuses like,"Oh Lakeland had a down year, CUW is having a down year."  NCC would win the IBC this year, its not even debatable. Cause they just beat our likely conference champion by 21.  How are you gonna tell someone who played for all 3 coaches that im wrong.  No one was calling for Murray's head, he chose to leave on a whim, which set us back.  all the players were pushing for mitchell caue he was the D-coordinator under murray.  We thought it was the best choice, but i guess be careful what u wish for.  If you had any clue what it was like under mitchell as compared to cooper you would be more understanding.  A small example of how dfferent it was that isnt score related.  Mitchess requested a 300 check to order spirit pack stuff, cooper asked for 100 and we got more stuff.  There was shady **** going on and im not gonna "spew" more of another man's dirty laundry.  If you would like to know ill tell u i guess.  But the whole attitude changed with cooper as did the effort on the field.

Having played for the last 3 coaches at Benedictine...Murray (1 year), Mitchell( 2 year), an Cooper (1 year), allow me to comment.  That last sentence it itself is a good reason why we were not very good.  Anyways, Benedictine's average margin of defeat against teams in 05 and 06 have decreased.  I dont want to do math now, but you can look at the numbers.  Lost to NCC by 55 one year, just 17 coopers first year, which NCC was better that year as well.  Lost to Lakeland i think 14-0 last year...other years have been 73-7, 62-35, etc.  BU has not lost to CUC, Eureka whcih was done each once in Mitchell's years.  Next year will be all of Cooper's recruits so you can judge him then if you want.  They just havent settled on an offense, the wing t is not working as imagined and BU doesnt have ne one to throw the ball with conssitently.  If they can establish some sort of consistency there, ths season and then next year the defense will still be very tough.  However, they did not show it versus Elmhurst.  But im not worried about the D.  They are led by a great group of guys.

BU 14, North Park 0

Schwartz 204 yards rushing for BU.  3 picks thrown by NP

BU v Elmhurst will be close for 3 quarters, but unfortunately the BU offense will not be able to keep up with Elmhurst.  BU's defense will be in the top 2 in the IBC but they will struggle on offense.  just like 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006

OxyBob I  love the call out there of Mr Ypsi's quote.  Great work.  I dont think I have enough time to do that to everything that was said about how great michigan was.  Unfortunately the Big Ten has won 2 games thus far(PSU and Wis) which is fine, a blind squirrel has to find a nut once in a while, or i guess two in this case.  At any rate,  I do root for the Buckeyes but that is no gimme and even if they win, it will not justify the horrific performance the Big Ten has put on.  But how bout that supposed overrated Big East?  4-0 with one game left.  Winners of the Bowl Championship thingy.

OK michigan people where ya at?

JayBird and others who bring up Pam Ward.

How awful is she  She was doing a West Virginia-South Florida game earlier in the season and she started making things up in the middle of the game about players and coach Rodriguez of WVU.  And I only saw the end of the championship game but I can only imagine how awful she was once again.  I mean is she really their only option?  And once again yesterday I believe she was doing the Meineke Car Care bowl and they had George Foreman in the booth.  It may have been the most dumbness in the same enclosed area ever recorded.

Some very simple logic. 

Northwestern beat Wheaton by 2 and DePaul by 10.....Wheaton beats DePaul by 8....DePaul beat Kansas by 7.......Wheaton beats Kansas by 15.......Kansas beats Florida by 2......Wheaton beats Florida by 17

Since the temperature is turned up in here.  I'll attempt to help us bring an end.  If you guys have acknowledged there is a flaw in the way this All-Region stuff works then accept it.  If you, and others agree you were one of the best, then you were.  You dont need some plaque and piece of paper to validate it.  You were the conference defensive player of the year, right?  So that is plenty of recognition in my eyes.  If you feel you still have something to prove then go do it.  If you feel you have done enough then that is fine too.

Yeah, the plus 1 system would be a great idea.  But I dont think it would apply in all year, such as last year or this year with Ohio State being so clear cut 1.  And USC and Texas being so clear cut last year.  There would have to be a way to determine when to use and when not to use it.

Can someone tell me the difference between the "Player of the Year" award, "Most Outstanding Player" award and the Heisman trophy?  Because no one will ever convince me that they just gave the Oustanding player award to Brady Quinn the other night because he deserved it.  They did it because he was gonna go home empty handed, otherwise.  Are those not the same 3 meanings?

And kind of off topic, why does there always have to be just 1 MVP, why couldnt Kobe and Nash win it last year?  Kind of stupid if you ask me.