what a game today at schoenecker, it was a hard fought battle by both squads, it was particularly entertaining watching isler and porter-wooz battle it out off the ball.  both teams did some really good things during game,

it was sad though that an obvious blunder on the reffing crew will taint a great game.  In the closing seconds of overtime with the clockshot running down, carleton put up an obvious air ball, but the refs did not blow the whistle, carleton rebounded the basketball after the tommies stopped playing because of the violation.  obviously you have to play til you hear a whistle, i just can't believe a call that big could be missed in such a critical moment of such a critical game for both teams,

hats off to both teams, it was a really enjoyable team, and congratulations to coach sinn for putting the tommies back on the map:)

Tommie Fans Where U At?

Hello board, i have not read any recent posts, but is there any tommy love going on this page?  i need a reliable source to give me some unbiased no spin reporting on tommy nation

i´m out of the country and craving some basketball talk, i glanced at the most recent box score and saw something promising, the presence of a point guard,

i think the point guard is the single most important position on the court, and really they just need two things, the ability to control the ball, and the ability to pester to death the other point guard with in your face defense, which really sets the tone for the rest of the defenders, things like uncanny court vision, shooting precision are definately bonuses, when you have a combination of all, (a la steve nash, lindsay whalen) they can lead a team all the way

and it appears that st. thomas may have that in sheena...i can´t remember her last name, i had the chance to see her play very briefly in high school and she looks like the real deal, please tommy fans, please confirm, or anyone else who can tell me straight if sheena is the tommies saving grace

i look forward to hearing how the miac is going

go tommies!

I can't believe there is talk right now about Shimek being all-conference.  I had mentioned in earlier about him being all-conference, what I meant by that is that last season he was. (right?)  I think he should be more of a factor in their game.  As I said, I think our team is too soft, settling for jump shots, not getting to the line, I think Shimek getting more into offensive sets would bring that toughness.  But from this point in the season, there is no way he could be looked at for all-conference.

Can't wait for the game tomorrow.  Let's see if this Tommie team is the real deal.  I think so!  And I'll take by 7.

Didn't get a chance to see the game tonight, but I did see the Tommies play over the holidays.  They have lost something, their play has been I think the only word to describe it is stale.  It looks to me as if they are just going through the motions.  The game against GAC everyone had a bounce to their step, like they were excited to be out there playing, and that's not what I saw a week ago.

Second, how does Shimek go from being All-Conference to a non-offensive factor?  I think the Tommies need to get him the ball, and he needs to use his body to get to the line.  I don't have the statistics, but I would be willing to bet that the Tommies are near the bottom in the MIAC in terms of foul attempts per game.  Ike does not draw fouls, Schnettler only shoots threes, I don't know Keatings game.  They are like the Timberwolves, jump shooting team.  Get some toughness in there.  Maybe Fritze could trade for Artest?

I don't know how many people will be at the game.  Not many students take J-Term Classes so a lot of the student body is home, and I wouldn't exactly consider many of the students die hard fans to make the 15 minute drive from surburbia to see the game.  But who knows, we'll see I guess.

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First, the point that the WIAC is made up of large enrollment, state subsized universities is relatively true. Compared to the MIAC, the WIACs enrollment is large but thats because they are public universities that MOST people can AFFORD, unlike the MIAC where cost eliminates a lot of potential students. Obviously they will have bigger numbers. Insinuating that this somehow gives the WIAC an edge is ridiculous.  there is no advantage either way.
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bumkneez ~

i can agree with some of what you say, but not the above statement.  unless i am completely mis-understanding what you said, i find it laugable.  do you really think that there is no advantage to have a school that costs half as much to attend?  having the ability to recruit any solid d3 level player, versus recruiting a select number that fit the right socio-economic profile.  i don't know, that seems like a stretch to me.  even with scholarships and financial aid, $28,000 is not a given for any high school athlete.  you should know, you had to put up the big numbers.  or maybe i am just misunderstanding your statement.  what's your argument for wiac having no advantage because it is less expensive?

NCAA is naming a 25th anniversary team, 5 players and 1 coach.  There are two players from the MIAC nominated, Trow from UST and Beachy from Concordia, to vote go to this site:

http://www.ncaasports.com/basketball/womens/fanpolls/1013

Nice article here by Patrick Reusse about Coach Metcalf-Filzen:

http://www.startribune.com/stories/508/5800360.html





Thanks for the advice Willy 

to add one more thing,

bethel should be a top 3 team in the league at the end of the year, without a doubt, they have the talent, size, shooting, ability to get to the rim

they only have one loss in the miac schedule thusfar, but their two wins have come against st. kates (in ot, they were very fortunate to pull that one off) and augsburg, so it will be interesting to see how they fare against the top teams in the league,

bottom line, if bethel uses its weapons, they will be a tough team to beat

Quote from: east coast miac fan on December 23, 2005, 12:29:32 AM
CM, you stated that Carleton is BETTER coached than Bethel is, but Bethel has better athletes.  Why do you feel Carleton is better coached?  I think Tami is a great coach, but she has a 5 to 6 year head start with her program over Bethel. 

east coast miac fan,

apologies on my proof-reading inabilities and also my lack of wisdom and knowledge in the sports realm, i am but a novice, and yes i have much to learn, and maybe one day i will see things clearly, at least i hope as much

i think as noted in your earlier statement that you were begging the question who was a better coach, Tammy or Herbrechtsmeyer (which i also need to apologize for, i am a lazy lazy person and meant no disrespect towards coach h.,)  i simply think tammy at this time is a better coach.  i think the bethel program is definately on its way up.  they finished in 8th place last season, and are playing good basketball this season thusfar, it helps having a dII transfer thrown into the mix.   if he continues to recruit as the past two classes, they should continue to improve.  and he deserves much credit for this improvement

It's hard to say who is a better coach, there are so many factors that are involved in determining that.  With that being said, if I had to pick one coach to coach my team out of the two, I would pick Tammy.  If you were the athletic director and had those two coaches as your options, who would you pick east coast?

I will in the future make an attempt to proofread all posts in the hopes that i will avoid annoying any of you fellow junkies out there...

happy holidays everyone:)

Gacbacker ~
point taken, I still think Jen's ability to score when necessary puts her ahead of Bri.  Monahan is a very good player, but the only time I saw her play this year, again UST, she continually passed the ball out of the block when you guys needed scoring in crucial times down the stretch.  If she's kicking it out b/c she thinks Vadnais has a better chance of scoring, that makes me think that Vadnais would be the most valuable on their team,  not monahan.  Granted, she was going up against Opdahl, who can be a presence down low, but still, if you're up for MVP of the league, I would think you would be at least the first option on your own team.  I don't know though, like I said, I've only seen her play the one game.

East Coach,

After watching Tammy's teams over the past 4 years, I can say without hesitation that she is the best coach in the MIAC.  Each year I look at the players they have and do not think they will be that good.  Vig is an amazing talent, but beyond her they had okay players.  They all had one thing in common, they played hard fundamental basketball.  The freeman twins were good, not taking anything away from them, but they would not have been as effective as they were, had they not been in carleton.  Bethel has a lot of talent this year, and from what I've seen thusfar, it is sorely under used.  Maybe this will change as the season progresses, and maybe I just saw a game where they weren't playing well, but the jury is still out in my mind about Herbwhater his name is coaching ability.

If I may add my two cents, I think it does come down to Vig and Heikenin, although I think Alhberg is a very close third.  In my mind right now, without having seen AH play this year, I think she is the favorite.  I think they are both very similar players, being able to dominate because of their physical play and the mis-matches they create.  I think AH does a better job than Vig at taking over the game.  Vig allows other people to take the ball in key situations, while AH knows when her team needs her to take the shots.  That fact could be the difference in this race.

I still think Ahlberg has an outside shot of making this two-horse race a three-way contest.  And if Opdahl could find consistency, her name may pop into the conversation come February.

Peachbasket, I take your posts in good fun, and yes Erica scored most of the points.  After the first few posessions I wasn't sure if we would score 26 as a team.  Quigley had 4 blocked shots in the first 5 minutes. 

That team is good.  I was really impressed by their Senior guard Hansen, who ended up with 24 going 6-8 behind the arc.  I remember her when she played in High School with Shannon Bolden at Marshall, that was a real good team, but she is at least ten times quicker these days, and her ability to change direction on a dime is unlike anyone i've seen in DII or III.

I agree with the sentiment on the board though.  The league is about as balanced as I can remember.  A team cannot afford to overlook anyone.  It will make for a exciting couple of months, with big match-ups every game (kind of like the condition of the NFL right now).   

I still think St. Ben's is the team to beat, and they've proved to be beatable, but I think the teams that are on the floor now are going to be much different than the teams we see come February, especially my Tommies, who each week has made improvements.  (And yesterday, well everyone needs to learn how to take a butt whooping once in their life)

Whoa, this board is getting heated, I like it.  I've been to 4 UST games so far this season.  Keating was solid versus Carleton, and I'll admit, he looked out of sync at Mac.  Wonka, I can't figure out how you could use a game like the blowout on Wednesday night to say he's not good.  The tommies obviously had no trouble scoring on Wednesday night.  What makes Keating so good is that he understands what it takes to win..  It's early in the season, and I think you'll see how good he actually is.  Not to mention, AT was virtually shut down Wednesday, and who was guarding him?  Oh yeah, Keating.

I'm not saying he has been playing like an All-star thusfar, I'm just saying, don't question his ability by a game where a team is winning by 30 points, they were obviously doing okay finding the open shooters.