Thanks gacbac, makes sense.....btw, mvp clearly goes to Vadnais.

What is the tiebreaker sequence for the MIAC anyway?  Hamline and Mac would have the same conference record if Mac wins.  Or Concordia and Carleton for the fourth spot.  Congrats to St. Bens.  I am going to pick.......Hamline to grab the last spot, Championship game= St Bens v St. Thomas = St Thomas conference chamption.  We'll see.  Should be fun to watch.

The officiating was very inconsistent...team fouls were what...24 to 15? It didn't decide the game but this seems to be a theme in the miac....as to the "unwritten rules" this is college basketball and to my knowledge teams play to win...I have seen double digit leads evaporate in under a minute many many times.  Safe lead would have been 20 not 10.  It should take around 4 sec to bring the ball up and 2 or 3 to drained off the clock...That's about ten offensive poss. left on the floor.  Difference of opinion I suppose. 

Quote from: gacbacker on January 17, 2008, 12:23:41 AM
Gusties get what the doctor ordered: a dose of Hamline.

Vadnais returns to form with 21 points on 8-14fg, and the Gusties receive a strong game inside the paint (what a concept) from Katie Layman.  Layman and Mathiowetz have the best fg % on the team. If the Gusties are patient enough to get them the ball on a consistent basis, the offense looks 100% better and things will start to open up for the guards.

A couple of quick notes:

-Vadnais is 9 points away from becoming the school's all-time leading scorer. She will eclipse the mark set by Monahan just last year.

-The Gustie alum curse continues. Haller has never lost to Bethel or Hamline since Herby at Bethel and MYK at Hamline - both Gustie alums - took over those respective programs.

-Macalester 70 Bethel 69. Ouch. Coming into this season it looked like Bethel had a chance to compete for one of the top 3 spots...now they sit in a tie for ninth place with Augsburg and a game behind a surging Macalester team. Congrats to Ellen Thompson for making that Macalester team competitive.

I was able to catch that game last night.....Some of the worst officiating I have ever seen...That being said Hamline made some bad mistakes with regards to turnovers and Gustavus took advantage of it everytime.  Hamline's 12 point lead evaporated quickly....Question...Why in the world would Coach Haller put subs in up by ten with one minute plus left?? Odd, that lead could have evaporated quickly.  Vadnais was putting in some crazy shots and Mathiowetz was solid down low.  Good win for gusties, I would like to catch the rematch.  Cheers.

After the second round of games yesterday I will haft to say.....man I'm tired of being right....Any miac team can compete....Hamline beats Carelton, Cobs beat Gusties....Should be interesting when these conference games during J term finish out.

well.....Gustavus barely beats Macalester by THREE, Carleton over Augsberg by NINE, St. Kates gets smoked by a Coe team that is last in their division, & Bethel, Carleton, & Hamline have a lot of talent on the roster.....
Are you telling me that these games would have been close four years ago?

With all these conference games it just shows how competitive the conference is now.  I think the days of dominance by four teams is over.  Nice to see some equalized talent on all these teams....

Bonus prediction - two head coaches of schools in the southern half of the state (and yes, Mpls/StP is in the southern half) will be widely accused of recruiting violations, but nobody will be able to prove anything.  (but yojo will still know all and put us in our rightful places)

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Uh oh, more baseless accusations with a schnazzy personal attack...not sure if I'll be able to sleep tonight Nice that you have all that inside information...."With well doing you may put to silence foolish men."

Carleton & Bethel will be at the top of the division.  St. Bens, Gustavus, Hamline, & Concordia coming up the rear.  Watch and see.

I see Carleton doing good things....not sure about st kates though...losing the pg is always tough--can't really making a prediction with coe and mlc.....Coe is a strong team, MLC is not too good.  Things will shape up when there is some conference action.

I find it quite hilarious that rather than responding to the orginal reason for the posting......gossip and mudslinging...you feel compelled to attack the first time poster....Plain and simple scorekeeper aka St Ben admission guy gets caught.. ..MOVE ON...talk basketball   

get over it bro...just talk basketball...

come on piperbacker...They just beat a ranked stout team in preseason.  New coach looks outstanding.

MYK has been at the helm for what 3 yrs or so?  Regardless, I don't believe hamline has had consecutive 500 or better seasons in what 50 years....MYK did it in 3....got to give her props.  As to this mysterious player you are speaking of.....I believe every single program in the MIAC does the transfer requests quite a bit....Don't be blind to the fact that the MIAC isn't all about academics...if you do -- don't be fooling yourself.  St. John's football athletes have well documented cases of "leadership scholorships" while St Thomas has "diversity scholorships" to curtail the current system which in my opinion is out of date and needs to be changed.  As to MYK, I think you may have an opinion on some people that you really don't know too much about.  I've never met her personally but I would reserve judgement until I do...perhaps  you should do the same.     

I do see the Blazers doing well again this year but I don't believe any scrimmage as a good litmus test.  As far as Hamline stinking, I don't think that's quite the case but regardless MYK has done a good job to turn that program around.  Bethel does have a lot of talent but I agree, seem to underachieve.  I still think Bethel and Hamline will be surprises.