Yes you said "even the Dominican fans agreed" after you implied it was Dominican and the refs working against Capital and they got the win despite having to play against Dominican's 11 and three officials who were working in Dominican's favor.  That was not the case.  The officiating was poor.  Dominican fans felt they were bad, working against Dominican...Capital fans thought they were bad, working against Capital.  I just said they were bad all around.

It is also amazing that the officiating was so bad you felt the need to come on the board and rag on them, yet now you know beyond doubt that a ball in the box was played by a chest because the AR (who was bad as you have stated) confirmed it was played with a chest.  See the irony in that? If the officials were that awful, just maybe you shouldn't use the official confirming a call to be the reason why a ball in the box was played with a chest as opposed to an extended arm.

Your original post should have ended with "nice to see Cap get their first ever NCAA win.  Not a very poised effort but they persevered and grinded it out."

Quote from: Domino1195 on November 12, 2017, 12:46:41 AM
Nice Cap got their first ever NCAA win, but for the 4th it 5th time this year they had to play against 14. God awful officiating - even the Dominican fans I spoke to after the game agreed. Lost track of the yellows - maybe 8??? Not a very poised effort by Cap - but they persevered and grinded it out.

Cap playing against 14??? Officiating was bad all around...missed two handballs in the box against Capital, who committed 27 FOULS!!! never took a second yellow yet the Dominican coach, received a second yellow while walking away!

And judging by the NCAA Regional rankings today, the committee didn't see it as a bad loss either.  NPU in a good position for Pool C assuming that Calvin and Wheaton win respective AQs, that leaves NPU as the first at-large from the Central Region.

It doesn't seem the NSCAA Central Region coaches saw it as such a bad loss for NPU, keeping the Vikings at 3 while jumping Dominican to #9.

I don't understand how taking a Dominican goal off the board makes a 2-1 match, 3-0...did the goal they scored end up being put in their own goal?  Wheaton only managed to put 5 shots on goal in that match.  Dominican will give up shots but does not give up quality chances, that will keep matches low scoring and allow them a chance to be in every match.

You may need to give the rest of the NACC top teams more credit rather than discrediting Dominican. MSOE has been a quality opponent for the last couple of years.  Benedictine has gotten much more organized and has landed much more talent the last couple of recruiting cycles.

You still can't deny that Dominican is 2-2-1 against North Park, Wheaton, Elmhurst, North Central and IWU.  The top three teams in the conference and NCC who in all likelihood will finish in or near the top four in the conference this season. 

Mr. Sager and Aficionado,

I think you guys need to look into Dominican's record against the CCIW over the years.  They have a winning record against NPU, Wheaton, Elmhurst, Wesleyan, NCC, etc.  This year, Dominican was up on Wheaton 1-0 (but did lose 2-1 on a goal late, I believe around the 80' or 81').  They obviously beat NPU and tied Elmhurst and lost a tight match with NCC.  I don't think a loss to Dominican is ever a terrible loss nor does a loss to Dominican mean a hit to the CCIW credibility.  Dominican has talent and a coaching staff that knows how to game plan and players that can then execute.  That is always a recipe for teams that will be in matches and be in position to get wins.

Tough draw to have to go to nation's #1 team...best of luck to the Spartans.

For all the whining about the seeding, it seems like the #3 seed gave the eventual champs, Aurora, the best game of the tournament.  And no one game doesn't make a season, but that was the second time Dominican gave the Spartans a game in a little over a week.  Maybe the seeds weren't as far off as everyone wanted to believe...

Great night of NathCon basketball.  Two tightly contested matchups that both went down to the wire. In the end the Division Champs prevailed. Looking forward to a high-powered offensive battle on Saturday. Hats off to Dominican and CUW for pushing the North/South champs to their limits tonight.

Quote from: RFMichigan on February 14, 2013, 03:37:41 PM

Quote from: BadgerFan42 on February 14, 2013, 11:18:03 AM
The 2010 #1CUW v #8DU is an irrelevant argument, check the box score from that game.  When you lose an all-conference player to injury before halftime it's tough to win any game, much less a conference tournament game. 

So I checked the box score from that game (and I couldn't figure out exactly who was injured for CUW - maybe Newton-Kemp?), but I did notice that Dominican put up 65second half points. 

Kyle Barth got hurt. The main point was that the power has traditionally been in the South and the North teams had an easier path and better seeding in the tournament. This is really the first, maybe second, year the North has been stronger. So the seeding is what it is and lets see what the tournament brings.

Nothing has changed from previous years.  For the majority of the NAC's existence, in fact, it was harder to play in the South than the North.  It wasn't until last year that the North finally beat a South team to get to the national tournament.  A few years ago, a 7-9 Dominican team went to CUW, the overall 1-seed, as the eighth seed and beat CUW.  So this is nothing new in the NAC and all that matters is winning the games you play.

If you still want rationale for the seeding, look at each team's record against the other teams in the NAC Tournament and understand the schedule is unbalanced.

LC and AU are both 8-2 against NAC Tournament teams.  CUW is 6-4 (and played 3 out of the 4 NAC South teams at home).  DU and MSOE are both 5-5 (and DU played 3 out of the 4 North teams, the top 3 in the North in fact, on the road).  MU is 4-6 and RC and BU are both 2-8.

The unbalanced schedule leads to head-to-head being the determining factor in seeding.  Does CUW who played two more home games than DU have a huge complaint while they are only one-game better against the teams in the conference tournament?

All CUW had to do was beat Dominican. If that game was at DU I would have said CUW deserves a shot on their home floor...but that game was in Mequon.  Every team had the opportunity to control their own destiny.

Besides, it plays out that Divisions are still in effect. Top half of bracket is all North teams and bottom is all South. Almost as if still two separate conferences and then play crossover for AQ.

Quote from: ExBBaller40 on February 11, 2013, 11:37:30 PM
But in all seriousness though, if what I'm seeing is correct on the conference website, that Dominican is the No. 3 seed because they beat Concordia-Wisconsin head to head because there is no crossover games this year? If it is I'm speechless.

Why speechless?  CUW had Dominican on its own floor and didn't take care of business.  The biggest gripe out there should be for AU who has the best NAC record and had to play Lakeland in Sheboygan in their only meeting...now as the #2-seed, they have to host their rival who is a completely different team than they were early in the season with transfers getting familiar with their new teammates. 

Agree with Lakeland, MSOE, Benedictine, Aurora and CUW but wonder what the more Rockford has shown you.

St. Olaf must not have put in to host.  You do have to complete an application and submit it by a deadline.  That is the only logical explanation for Luther hosting over STO.