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Quote from: sunkiss on March 04, 2013, 03:33:38 PM
Still cant believe Calvin is out of tourney. what do you guys think, not enough good competition ? bad luck? got outplayed? bad decisions? took team for granted ? 

Sunkiss, the Hope women's teams I regarded as most likely to win a national championship--the Carrie Snikkers-era teams--didn't make it, thanks, in her senior year, to exceptionally cold shooting and a 52 point game against a team they would normally beat. 

On the other hand, the 1990 and 2006 women's teams that won national championships played their best, which is what it took to eek out upset victories against higher rated teams (e.g., 92 to 89 against Wash U in 2006).  Anything can happen . . . as Michigan basketball realized after losing recently to Penn State, which was winless in the Big Ten.  And that uncertainty, I guess, is what makes sport exciting.  The best team--which I do believe was Calvin against St. Thomas, and should be Hope against St. Thomas on Friday--doesn't always win.

Well said pointlem, I agree completely.  These one-and-done tournaments can be heartbreaking to the favorites that lose and exhilarating to the underdog that wins.  What fun would it be if the favorite always won?

The one and done is awesome but especially in DIII basketball where one team has a home court advantage it seems so often that the best team does not always make it out of a weekend.

The 2008 Hope women are an example of this. I think after watching Hope for years this was probably the best team I have seen there. Anyone that watched them play down the stretch in the regular season and during that first weekend of the tournament at Baldwin Wallace would probably agree. They were absolutely rolling over everybody and were loaded with talent (Snikkers, Greene, Cowen, Boles, Lange, Henderson, Warsen, and probably more that I am missing. Their 2nd string would have won the MIAA that season.

Unfortunately they had a rough draw and didn't host either of the first two weekends. Anyone that was unfortunate enough to make the trip to Howard Payne that year witnessed the mysterious magic of home court advantage mixed in with some highly questionable officiating.

This being said having to travel is not always easy. Best of luck to hope this weekend. I think if they can come back home with two wins this weekend they would definitely be the team to beat at home.

Took a year to try duplicating what the Calvin guys put together and still not as good.  Nice try though.
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It appears that maybe Calvin's guys should have been working on something else as proven by this years record.

PS - Sorry, it appears I too need to work on some things, including my quoting skills.

you are welcome, I wondered if that was throwing you off.

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 17, 2008, 03:50:42 PM
Some great numbers for an amazing group of seniors.   In their four years, they were 110-10, including a national championship, and 9-2 in the NCAA tournament - all road games.  Individually, they "only" accomplished this:

Career Numbers

Jordyn Boles

Games Played	120	1st	tied with Julie Henderson
Games Started	120	1st	tied with Julie Henderson
Points scored	1266	3rd
Scoring average	10.6	9th
FG Made	445	5th
FG Attempts	1074	3rd
3pt Made	218	1st
3pt Attempts	570	1st
3pt Percentage	0.382	4th
FT percentage	0.767	6th
Assists	219	8th

Julie Henderson

Games Played	120	1st	tied with Jordyn Boles
Games Started	120	1st	tied with Jordyn Boles
3pt Percentage	0.365	5th
FT Percentage	0.755	8th
Assists	436	2nd
Blocks	31	9th
Steals	233	1st	1.40 A/TO ratio

Lindsay Lange

FG Percentage	0.534	3rd
Blocks	123	2nd

Stacy Warsen

Games Played	115	5th
FT attemps	277	9th

Single Season Numbers

Jordyn Boles

3pt Made

65

2nd

2007-08

Jullie Henderson

Assists	119	5th	2006-07
Assists	107	8th	2005-06
Assists	106	9th	2007-08
Assists	104	10th	2004-05
Steals	78	3rd	2005-06

Lindsay Lange

FG Percentage	0.597	1st	2006-07
Blocks	53	2nd	2007-08

Stacy Warsen - didn't get into the top 10 for an single season records, but had an amazing offensive rebounding career.  She finished with a total of 441 rebounds, and 216 of those were offensive rebounds!!

These are all very amazing stats, what a great group of girls, I am sure MO will miss them a lot, both and off the court. I do have to question you on one record though, according to my count Julie has 122 starts and games played if you count the two from her freshmen year.

Quote from: mjfasteenwolf on March 14, 2008, 06:41:47 PM
tied up at the half, i'm not too worried though, Hope battled back to tie it up, got some momentum back. nobody in real foul trouble for the dutch, also gf made 4 threes to Hopes 0, I have a feeling JB and JC might hit a few in the second half, also seems Hope has been a 2nd half team most of the year anyways.

I'm hoping that my predictions about JB and JC were meant for tomorrow night, since they didn't come true in the second half. Can't wait to listen to the game tomorrow, anybody know what station it will be on, since the womens and mens games will overlap? Best of luck to both Hope teams tomorrow!

tied up at the half, i'm not too worried though, Hope battled back to tie it up, got some momentum back. nobody in real foul trouble for the dutch, also gf made 4 threes to Hopes 0, I have a feeling JB and JC might hit a few in the second half, also seems Hope has been a 2nd half team most of the year anyways.

Just a question for those of you in the know, how is it possible that HPU has shot 400 more free throws than their opponents? Does that happen because of their style of play, or just because they are always getting fouled because they have the lead?

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Ed says Go Hope..........and recycle!

Sigh. Don't get me started...

It's hard not to look ahead to a Hope/HPU matchup. Ralph has given us excellent insight into what is obviously a very good HPU team. OK seems very confident about this Hope team. If Hope can win on HPU's home floor, that would be quite a statement, obviously.

You are 100% right, it is really hard to to look ahead to that matchup. I think it will definetely happen. From what I have heard around the basketball world, Hope should not have too much of a problem with George Fox, and I do not see HPU losing on their home court Friday. Hopefully I will have a different feeling on Saturday though if they are playing the Dutch. Both teams sound great, and I have no idea who would win, unfortunately if Hope would lose I would have to wonder how the game would have gone if it was played at Devos, or on a neutral floor, but you have to play the cards you are dealt. If Hope can make it to that game, and win it, I don't see anybody in the nation being able to stop that momentum, especially having to come in to Holland. With that all said, its all a long ways away, lets first take care of GF, then we'll look to the future.

ACTION ALERT:
All or most of you are aware that Hope College is hosting the NCAA
Division III Women's Basketball Championship next weekend.  Hope has
been chosen to do this because of the quality of our institution.
However, the quality of our institution is degraded when a few decide
to mar its reputation.  Today, it was noticed that three NCAA Welcome
banners had been stolen from the lamppost in the front circle of
DeVos.  This is HIGHLY disappointing!!  We ask that those who may know
the whereabouts of these stolen banners, please find them and return
them to the DeVos Fieldhouse, no questions asked. We are trying to put
our best feet forward for our visitors and the NCAA.  Actions like
this do not allow that to happen.  Please help!!

Eva Dean Folkert (folkert@hope.edu)
Director of Women's Athletics

This is too bad, HOPEfully whoever took those will decide they should represent Hope with a little more class.

Quote from: Hwbb on March 09, 2008, 07:13:15 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2008, 12:36:23 PM
Howard Payne hosting sectionals.

Anybody know if Hope will sponsor any kind of group travel?

There has been some talk of chartering a flight for everyone who wants to go down to TX, could save a couple hundred per person on the flight.

Quote from: WWWRHH on March 06, 2008, 11:34:14 AM
mjfasteenwolf:  When you said it was injury to a non-starting key player I was pretty sure the wrist injury had worsened and now with your mention of this being a thin position I am pretty sure who you are referring to.  We can only hope that there is a chance it does not sideline her for the entire run.

But it sounds like we should expect to see Henderson and probably Green playing some extended minutes.

Considering how hard everyone has worked this is a real disappointment.  I feel so bad for the player.

Good detective skills, you narrowed it down to the right player, just a new more severe injury. You are also definetely right that Henderson, maybe Greene, and maybe Cowen/DeKuiper will be seeing more time. Hopefully they can step it up. I am not worried about Henderson needing to play more minutes, I think she will step it up. She can take charge of the team, and play all game without making many mistakes, i am sure some of you remember the 06 run, if she plays anything like that, Hope will be fine. The only thing that worries me, is although Henderson is a great defensive player, she cannot put the full court on the ball pressure on that Kopke does so well, the Flying  Dutch will miss that, but I think they will rise to the occassion.

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Quote from: mjfasteenwolf on March 06, 2008, 07:25:32 AM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like Hope will be without one of their key players for the tourney run. Not going to say who yet, because its not 100 percent, but just making sure nobody is caught of guard.

Can you provide some insight or hint:  Grades, injury or illness?

Not a starter, but someone who plays quite a bit, and due to an injury.

Good thing they're deep.  And, I see that Howard Payne will have to play McMurray for the 3rd time this season, this Saturday.  We all know how hard it is to beat the same team 3 times in one year, right?    

I was thinking the same thing, depth shouldn't be too much of a problem, the injury might be at the thinnest position they have though. Also yes, go McMurray, looks like HP handled them fine last time, but hopefully 3rd times a charm.

Quote from: WWWRHH on March 06, 2008, 08:58:09 AM

Quote from: mjfasteenwolf on March 06, 2008, 07:25:32 AM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like Hope will be without one of their key players for the tourney run. Not going to say who yet, because its not 100 percent, but just making sure nobody is caught of guard.

Can you provide some insight or hint:  Grades, injury or illness?

Not a starter, but someone who plays quite a bit, and due to an injury.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like Hope will be without one of their key players for the tourney run. Not going to say who yet, because its not 100 percent, but just making sure nobody is caught of guard.

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Quote from: gohope on March 02, 2008, 01:40:52 AM

   okay I'll quit as others have "pointed" out stuff about this situation well enough in earlier posts (as well as on the Holland Sentinel Blog).

It's impossible to take seriously anything Alan Babbit or the Sentinel prints. I could not read past the very first sentence of his blog without finding an obvious grammatical error. D3hoops posters make errors too but we don't 1) get paid to write, and 2) have editors to review our work before it goes out to the public (maybe the Sentinel doesn't either).

That's Babbitt with a second "t." Just thought you'd like to know.

I hate reading the sentinel sports, unfortunately its my only choice for  Hope sports coverage, their writing is poor, and just not written in an interesting way. The stats that they often use are not important, and not well used either.