Quote from: Big Dog on February 27, 2006, 07:03:46 PM
Huntingdon did deserve to get in, just not the NCAA Tournament. They deserved to get in to a local restaurant and watch the selection committee shaft them just like it did Maryville in the Scots early Lambert years. Lambert has NCAA tournament wins, reputation as an outstanding coach, and the credibility in scheduling that tournament officials respect and expect from a quality program. Huntingdon needs to establish some credibility to line up with the Kenny Maynes and Jerry Rices, not to mention Shiela Evans twin Stacey Kiebler. Two things mean spring on the Maryville campus, the dogwoods blooming and Lambert and the Scots putting on their dancing shoes. Best to Huntingdon next year and its a shame their is not an NIT for them to compete in. Thats where they belonged.

Whoa, hey now "Big Dog", slow your roll... First off, to be selected into the NCAA tournament is not based on reputation or a team's prestige, it's based on a team's performance; or atleast it should be.  But maybe that is the reason Maryville got in, solely on their name.  Second, Huntingdon belonging in the NIT... Obviously you weren't at the game... or maybe you played in it.  Either way, if the selections were based on performance, they would realize that Huntingdon should be in the dance this year.  Because like someone previously pointed out, Huntingdon did something that no one has done in the past four years... they held Maryville to 25% shooting, and a point total of 48.  And you may say it was luck, or a bad game for the Scots, but Huntingdon beat them 2 weeks before that too. 

Now in all this I'm not saying Maryville shouldn't be dancing, I'm just saying that Huntingdon should be dancing either with them or in their place.  Maryville does have a great team.  But I don't see where you get off saying Huntingdon belongs in a NIT tourney when they just beat the brakes off of Maryville, who you say belongs in the dance.  So by your reasoning, either Huntingdon should be dancing or neither of them should be there.

Oh, and for anyone interested...

I hear Coach Duckworth will be talking on Hoopsville tonight.

Quote from: GSAC Killer on February 26, 2006, 02:33:43 PM
Although I still believe that Maryville and Fisk have better teams

I think you're wrong on this Killer... Fisk was definitely more athletic and probably more talented, but not a better "TEAM" than Huntingdon.  I don't think Maryville was a better "TEAM" either, and I think the level of talent would be pretty close.  I think HC proved that the past two weeks.

When I played AAU back in the day, I played with some of the best players throughout the state.  We were easily more talented and athletic than anybody we played.  But we lost our first two games, because we weren't a TEAM.

There's a big difference.

Narch,

If that is how the picks were made, I can easily see why Villa Julie was picked over HC, and they must have been the 3rd pick for the Pool B, while MC was the last choice. 

I do not understand, though, how MC was chosen over HC.  You would think that, as in D1, the later season games would make a difference, as well as the head-to-head.  HC won 4 games against region ranked opponents (MC and Fisk) in the last two weeks, as well as a 13 game win streak... You would think that would count for something, but I guess not. 

Obviously the Pool B picks were based on the first criteria, because if they had been based on secondary criteria, those factors (the above mentioned) would have been taken into consideration and HC would probably be dancing instead of MC.

narch,

you speak a lot of truth... here is the reason HC went and played in Michigan though.  When Allen White was a freshman, Coach Duckworth told him he would try to play somewhere close to his hometown so his friends could see him play, because the majority of the other teammates are somewhat close to Alabama, or reside in AL.  I think going to Michigan was a good thing for Allen since it is his senior year.

But I would agree with getting some of the other non-D3 games off of their schedule and play other D3 teams, regional or not, it will help overall rather than playing the NCCAA schools.

Nevermind, not sure what I was thinking about the Fisk thing, disregard that comment.

Well I really thought Huntingdon deserved to get in...  I think they should have made it over Maryville, I believe they proved that the past 2 weeks, but I didn't think Villa Julie would make it over them too.  I would have taken the two GSAC teams first. 

One thing I don't understand is that, if Maryville was selected on region record and all that, didn't Fisk have a better region record, so why weren't they selected over Maryville?

Well it doesn't look like the season is quite over for the Scots.  The projections have both Huntingdon and Maryville going, Maryville seeded 6th in the South, but place Huntingdon seeded 5th in the West region.

http://www.d3hoops.com/salem/06/projected.htm

Congratulations to the Hawks.  They finally did it.  Great overall team defense and rebounding.  Held Maryville to 25% shooting and only 7 offensive rebounds, a huge improvement from what they usually give up on the boards.

Congrats to Allen White and Coach Duckworth.  Let's hope they make that national tourney.

Old Lion, I can see why you said Piedmont should have had two players.  Allen White proved why he was Player of the Year, Cole Hairston proved why he was 1st Team All Conference, but Justin Babian did not show up offensively.  Good defense throughout, but I don't think he proved he was 2nd Team All Conference.

Congrats again, especially to the Huntingdon seniors.

Wilburt, it doesn't sound like you give HC any credit... I thought they played a pretty good game.  Good defense, and the defense from HC's big men, especially Jon Dodd, was pretty outstanding.  I think if there was an award for Defensive Player of the Year, he would be up for it.

Adams is a player, I'll tell ya that much, and I don't see why you say it wasn't a battle, pretty tough game throughout... no one really played dirty from what I saw though.  There may have been a few cheap shots, but there's usually always a couple. 

Fisk played good, but you give no credit to Huntingdon.  Oh, I also heard they stole 3 seat covers after their shoot-around this morning.  That's pretty classy.

Good luck to both teams tomorrow in the GSAC Championship.

thank you... i do think that this is great for the GSAC, hopefully whoever makes it will represent the conference well.

Do you think whoever wins the tournament, excluding Lagrange, will get a bid to the national tourney, whether it be pool B or C?

If Jackson is out, I don't see MC/LC being too close of a game. 

FU/HC is going to be a battle, and from the way things went last time, I have a feeling that some guys may get dirty.  I just hope both teams realize they are playing for a conference championship and a possible national tourney bid, rather than playing to get revenge physically. 

But we will see...

GO HAWKS

Lagrange won by two with a jump shot around the FT line with 1.9 seconds left... very good game, Jackson left early with an ankle injury. 

Good game Lions, sorry your season had to end that way.  You played very well.

Beaty, HC plays Fisk, MC might play PC, if they beat LC in the play-in game.