MSOE will scrimage UWM this year; http://uwmpanthers.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/wiml-m-baskbl-sched.html .

Quote from: Gregory Sager on July 30, 2008, 12:30:32 AM

You didn't post our quotes, but Tom Doebler and I both went out of our way to point out that MSOE is going to be a very tough game for Grinnell next year. And ft06 thinks that the Pioneers will lose to either MSOE or Ripon if that 7-1 scenario for Grinnell he mentioned is what actually comes to pass next winter. So it's not as though your Raiders are being subjected to the tug on the tie and the "I don't get any respect" routine.

It was more The Roop quote that opened my eyes. I mean we were up by 17 at the half and coasted to a 20 point victory with Murphy and Meier both playing less than 20 minutes last season. Well Im sure Beloit has gotten better and I have idea as to the skill levels of various posters, it seems like a pretty big stretch to assume that a "w" for Beloit. I guess I shouldnt feel that much disrespect as I wouldnt consider Martin Luther, Benedictine, or Dubuque push overs either for Beloit either. I only really quoted the other one because you and Tom pointed it out.

Quote from: The Roop on July 14, 2008, 01:29:08 PM
Their non-conference schedule (with the exception of Augustana) is "Me and four other posters win those games." To borrow an Old School quote from a couple years ago.

Quote from: fightintitan2006 on July 16, 2008, 11:02:34 PM
Looks like Grinnell should be 7-1 at worst and possibly 8-0 heading into a home game against a likely top 10 Wheaton team. Could finally be that statement game so many system lovers/haters have been waiting for.

Man tough crowd. I feel like Rodney Dangerfield. At least MSOE doesnt have targets on their backs.

Quote from: wcbsas on July 24, 2008, 03:01:24 PM
What are some of the other changes then?

Adrian Winston left the team Late November-mid December last year and I dont think he is returned. There is another (bench) player listed on there who unless something has changed since spring was not playing basketball next year. (I think there is also a transfer not listed (to MSOE not from)).

Quote from: WLCALUM83 on July 22, 2008, 11:47:47 PM
IMHO-Biggest question for MSOE is-how does that squad fill Scott Murphy's shoes?--ask another player to step up big, or do it by committee-so to speak? Fortunately, most of the returning reserves did see a lot of playing time last season.

I dont think the team will be hurt that much in scoring. Front court depth will be alittle thin; however, Jeremy Off has had some big games, and can get to the rim with his back to the basket almost at will. He should have a big year and become the #1 option down low.  Meier seemed to get more comfortable on the offensive end as the season progressed, and Voight led the team in scoring 7 times last year despite missing the last 5 games. With most of the better bigs moving on (Van Ess, Averkamp, Haiduc, Leonard), the loss on defense shouldnt be too drastic. I'd be surprised if they werent in the top 4 in conference.

Anyway anybody know anything about how summer leagues have gone or about this:

"Basketball players travel to Italy

Brian Miller, MSOE's men's basketball team coach and assistant athletic director, coached a team of collegiate basketball players during a trip to Italy this summer as part of the American International Sports Tours. Six of the players were from the Northern Athletics Conference, including MSOE sophomore Austin Meier and recent grad Neil Trainor '08. They faced four club teams from Italy and the San Marino national team, and won two of the five games they played.  "The trip was a great time," Trainor explained. "Being able to learn the history and see places that I have studied or seen on TV was great and to have the added bonus of playing basketball on top of that was unbelievable." 
"

Quote from: wcbsas on July 22, 2008, 12:13:31 PM
http://www.msoe.edu/athletics/teams/roster.shtml?teamId=123800&crumbTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Roster&pageTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Roster

MSOE's roster for '08-'09 ... freshmen are not listed.

Two graduated, 12 back

Im 99.5% positive that roster isnt correct and they just added a year to everyone who was on last years roster. Also, MSOE lost three seniors (Molner, Murphy, and Trainor). However, the schedule is up: http://www.msoe.edu/athletics/teams/schedule_results.shtml?teamId=123800&crumbTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Schedule+and+Results&pageTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Schedule+and+Results
I'm moderately disappointed in the schedule. It includes no WIAC or CCIW teams, and the return trip from Grinell (I wanted to see a team score 120) is happening after I graduated and ironically moved to Iowa.

Highlights from WBCA all star games:
D2 including Austin Kearns, and Ben Wisniewski (Also includes Mike Hojnacki from New Berlin Eisenhower who chose Michigan Tech over MSOE  and appeared to be the best player in those highlights including a dropstep dunk and was the leading scorer in the game, oh well)
http://www.wissports.net/sports/hoopsb/tv.asp?bcpid=979266218&bclid=370422873&bctid=1646070596
D3 including Keegan Kincaid and Zach Alix
http://www.wissports.net/sports/hoopsb/tv.asp?bcpid=979266218&bclid=370422873&bctid=1653764380
D4 including Derrick Nillisson and Josh Regal
http://www.wissports.net/sports/hoopsb/tv.asp?bcpid=979266218&bclid=370422873&bctid=1655720409

According to Wishoops so far:

Benedictine:
Derrick Washington, Brown Deer ***
Kyle Bickler, Waukesha South

Concordia:
Zach Alix, Weyauwega-Fremont ***
Ben Hagenbach, Ashwaubenon
Mitchell Schneider, Fond du Lac St. Mary's Springs ***
Matt Paluchniak, Oostburg
(new) Nick Doedens, Germantown
(new) Zach Neumann, Germantown

Edgewood:
Jacob Guziewski, Burlington
(new) Derek Nkejmni, Madison Memorial
(new) Ben Wisniewski, New Berlin West

Lakeland:
Keegan Kincaid, Crandon ***
Derrick Nillissen, Bowler ***
Josh Regal, Suring ***1/2 #38 senior in the state
Jake Schwarz, Sheboygan South ***
Germell Heard, Wisconsin Lutheran
Michael Tapp, West Allis Hale
Hunter Wolf, Menasha


Marian:
Aaron Rickert, Laconia

MSOE:
Austin Kearns, Slinger ***
Eric Bohrer, De Pere
Robert Linzmeier, Valders *** #49 senior in the state
(new) Oren Bloom, West Allis Central

Dominican's Schedule is up:
http://dustars.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/domi-m-baskbl-sched.html

MSOE will play Chicago on Jan. 3rd and Edgewood will participate in the Midway Classic with Chicago(first game), Illinois Tech, and Kenyon

According to Wishoops so far:

Benedictine:
Derrick Washington, Brown Deer ***
(new)Kyle Bickler, Waukesha South

Concordia:
Zach Alix, Weyauwega-Fremont ***
Ben Hagenbach, Ashwaubenon
Mitchell Schneider, Fond du Lac St. Mary's Springs ***
Matt Paluchniak, Oostburg

Edgewood:
Jacob Guziewski, Burlington

Lakeland:
Keegan Kincaid, Crandon ***
Derrick Nillissen, Bowler ***
Josh Regal, Suring ***1/2 #38 senior in the state
Jake Schwarz, Sheboygan South ***
(new) Germell Heard, Wisconsin Lutheran
(new) Michael Tapp, West Allis Hale
(new) Hunter Wolf, Menasha


Marian:
Aaron Rickert, Laconia

MSOE:
Austin Kearns, Slinger ***
(new) Eric Bohrer, De Pere
(new)Robert Linzmeier, Valders *** #49 senior in the state

According to Wishoops so far:

Benedictine
Derrick Washington, Brown Deer ***

Concordia:
Zach Alix, Weyauwega-Fremont ***
Ben Hagenbach, Ashwaubenon
Mitchell Schneider, Fond du Lac St. Mary's Springs ***
Matt Paluchniak, Oostburg

Edgewood:
Jacob Guziewski, Burlington

Lakeland:
Keegan Kincaid, Crandon ***
Derrick Nillissen, Bowler ***
Josh Regal, Suring ***1/2 #38 senior in the state
Jake Schwarz, Sheboygan South ***

Marian:
Aaron Rickert, Laconia

MSOE:
Austin Kearns, Slinger ***

I'll go ahead and shamelessly plug MSOE players.

If there is an all freshmen team, Austin Meier deserves consideration to be on it. He started every game for a team that had no seniors the previous season. While he doesnt score 25 a game, he is the ultimate glue guy. He has some of the quickest hands I have ever seen, and is never caught out of position on defense. He crashes the boards hard from the small forward position. He is great at getting to the basket and can finish.

I doubt Scott Murphy has the overall statistics to make it, but he deserves consideration. Because MSOE did not have great outside shooting, Murphy would frequently see double teams when the ball entered the post. He still managed to shoot over 50% on the season, and carried MSOE in its strongest victories (North Park, Lake Forest, Webster, and Aurora). He has been the leading scorer for MSOE 3 of his 4 seasons (in which the last 3 have been the best 3 in school history).

As far as other players from the conference, Im sure Welton deserves consideration. He may have lost player of the year because I am guessing they didnt start him three games for whatever reason, but he is still one of the most dominating offensive players in conference. He is a tough defensive player who made two spectacular plays against MSOE coming over to help and took the ball out of the air on shot attempts at almost peak height.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 05, 2008, 12:24:44 AM
He's been with the Washington Nationals ever since the Reds traded him to the Nats in the midde of the 2006 season. D.C.'s an even tougher commute to MSOE than is Cincinnati.

Speaking of which, he would be a nice late round fantasy gamble. His home OPS was 150 points less than on the road. He should benefit greatly from the switch to New Nationals Park.

Recruiting Notes:

Quote from: Wishoops
Slinger senior point guard Austin Kearns has decided to attend Milwaukee School of Engineering and play basketball for the Raiders, an NCAA Division III program and member of the Northern Athletics Conference.
......
Sheboygan South senior Jake Schwarz and Crandon senior Keegan Kincaid have decided to play their collegiate basketball at Lakeland College.

http://www.wissports.net/sports/hoopsb/article.asp?nid=14727

Quote from: JSOnline
Austin Kearns has been in the spotlight from a young age. And the bright lights have always seemed to agree with Slinger's spectacular junior point guard.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=542288

Quote from: Wishoops
9. Josh Regal, Suring -- An absolute pleasure to watch because of his constant motion, Regal affects the game as much as any other player in Wisconsin on both ends of the court. His quick hands often lead to steals and/or deflections while his excellent court vision often results in layups for his teammates.

http://www.wissports.net/sports/hoopsb/article.asp?nid=14726

Quote from: LogShow on February 28, 2008, 12:59:26 AM
Is that a joke or does Milwaukee Engineering really have a basketball team

Yup, we've got uniforms and everything, it's really great!

Historically mediocre is a nice way of putting it. The last 3 years have been the best three records in school history. There has only been an on-campus facility for 4 years now:


The technical school obviously limits who you can recruit (though we have a nice business school too) and our women's teams are unlikely to ever become powerhouses, but it can help at times too; for example, Austin Meier who chose MSOE over division 2 offers because of academic reasons. http://wissports.net/sports/hoopsb/article.asp?nid=14197&sportID=1

Quote from: WLCALUM83 on February 22, 2008, 12:29:29 PM
Suppose WLC, MSOE, Lakeland and Dominican all wind up in a tie in conference, how would the tie-breakers work out?

MSOE would be 2-3 against the other 3
WLC would be 4-1 against the other 3
Lakeland would be 1-4 against the other 3 
Dominican would be 3-2 agains the other 3

So I think Lakeland would play at WLC in the 3-6 game and MSOE would return to Dominican on Tuesday night in the 4-5 game.