Thot I had to share this one...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/26/video-of-basketball-games-conclusion-is-the-worst-ending-to-a-basketball-gameever/

Quote from: toooldtohoop on February 25, 2014, 11:30:09 AM

Quote from: huckleberry on February 25, 2014, 11:17:43 AM

Quote from: AndOne on February 24, 2014, 04:16:01 PM
Realist--

I honestly don't think the refs saw it happen. In each case, one was still standing next to the Wheaton player who was inbounding the ball, one had already run down to the other end of the court under the Wheaton basket. The third was on the side of the court opposite the benches. Nelson was on the bench side of the court and was turned toward that sideline (away from the ref on the opposite side).

You are 100% right that the game should be fun, and expressionless robots belonging someplace besides the basketball court. However, I believe its entirely possible to have fun playing while at the same time displaying plenty of emotions which don't disrespect your opponent, your school, or yourself. Thats all.

Then we are all okay with Kmiec enthusiasm as he was in Peter Smith's face after blocking the final shot in the NCC / Wheaton game.  (2/15)

It was not Kmiec.  It happened right in front of me, and it was more than enthusiasm.  I choose to not provide a name.
Thanks for the correction....easily checked that it was not Kmeic apologies to him

Quote from: AndOne on February 24, 2014, 04:16:01 PM
Realist--

I honestly don't think the refs saw it happen. In each case, one was still standing next to the Wheaton player who was inbounding the ball, one had already run down to the other end of the court under the Wheaton basket. The third was on the side of the court opposite the benches. Nelson was on the bench side of the court and was turned toward that sideline (away from the ref on the opposite side).

You are 100% right that the game should be fun, and expressionless robots belonging someplace besides the basketball court. However, I believe its entirely possible to have fun playing while at the same time displaying plenty of emotions which don't disrespect your opponent, your school, or yourself. Thats all.

Then we are all okay with Kmiec enthusiasm as he was in Peter Smith's face after blocking the final shot in the NCC / Wheaton game.  (2/15)

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 18, 2014, 08:38:47 PM

Quote from: huckleberry on February 16, 2014, 08:05:44 PM
Hopefully the officiating crew on Sat at King Arena will not include Mr "Don't Mind I wasn't in the right position to make that call" Falkner

The wonderful things that botanists are doing nowadays ... now they've developed a huckleberry that smells like sour grapes.

Quote from: AndOne on February 16, 2014, 10:59:40 PM

Quote from: thunder38 on February 16, 2014, 01:38:52 AM
hats off to Kenny Faulkner who truly was the star of tonight's festivities. All the Gregory Arena renovations looked great and really provided Kenny with a grand stage. Sure was mighty convenient of the Thunder and Cardinals to show up and provide a little side entertainment to accompany the main show.

I say this not at all because Wheaton lost (they certainly deserved to) but because this game got away from the officials early and was over their heads from the beginning. Wheaton-North Central is always a dogfight and it was instead called at times like a ballet recital and at other times like a cage match. Much of the game was hard to figure out what was and what wasn't a foul. With a terrific basketball game going on, we had to see Landon Gamble, Jack Burchett, Brandon Williams, Nate Haynes, Tyler Peters, and more miss significant minutes in both halves due to foul trouble.

Quote from: huckleberry on February 16, 2014, 08:05:44 PM
Hopefully the officiating crew on Sat at King Arena will not include Mr "Don't Mind I wasn't in the right position to make that call" Falkner

Singling out Kenny Faulkner as the focal point for the ills that plague officiating within the conference is short sided at best. There are several more refs besides Mr. Faulkner who regularly display deficiencies in hustle, positioning, interpretation, decisiveness, consistency, poise, and communication. Many of these problems are a function of both age and habit. Several of the refs lack the physical agility and quickness to keep up with the game, and many have been in the habit of calling a game a certain way for multitude of years and not only won't, but can't change the manner in which they view and interpret game action.

I understand that Ken Faulkner draws attention to himself because he's a pretty domineering figure on the floor. But I haven't observed this season that he or any of the other long-in-the-tooth refs in this league are really the problem. The refs that I've seen call games poorly have tended to be the younger refs. And by "poorly" I'm not simply referring to getting calls wrong, because every official out there gets calls wrong. It comes with the job. I'm referring mostly to their in-game inconsistency in making calls. As I've said time and time again, all I ask from an official is that: a) he or she understands even the most esoteric rules of the game, and enforces them properly; b) he or she gets into position to make the calls, and doesn't try to make calls when he or she is out of position to get an unobstructed view of the incident; and c) he or she calls the games the same way for both teams and for all forty minutes. And the younger guys, more often than not, are especially bad at c) with regard to the forty-minutes-of-consistent-calls clause.

The way that the new points of emphasis have shaken out this year is much the way that I predicted they'd go: Many of the old warhorses flirted with calling the games the new way at first before reverting to calling them the way that they've always called them. A few of the older refs (Dennis Bracco, John Hodel, and Fritz Larson come to mind) have been sticklers for calling the games the way that the NCAA has instructed them to do so, and their games have tended to be the whistle-happy ones that seem to have a lot of fans up in arms. (My broadcast partner Rob Berki's one of the people who isn't thrilled by letter-of-the-law enforcement of the new points of emphasis; his on-air mantra this year has been a sarcastic, "Do ya like fouls, Greg?"  ) But, by and large, those older guys call their games consistently, while some of the younger guys don't. I can deal with 50 fouls in a game, as long as they're called fairly and consistently so that every player on the floor knows what he can or cannot get away with.

(I do have some issues with the demeanor of certain refs in this league, but those issues don't necessarily have anything to do with the in-game competence of those refs.)

No sour grapes, I don't think my post in any way was blaming the officiating for Thunder defeat.... as noted above Wheaton lost because NCC outplayed us. Rarely are games won or lost because of officiating.....  I am merely wishing that CCIW sends it's best crew to King Arena for the big one and in my opinion that does not include Mr Falkner. In watching his officiating for the better part of 10 years he does not meet in my opinion the level of consistency we both seem to value as fans.  Most recent example inconsistency   Wheaton vs NCC  2/18/14.  At some point the learning curve for a veteran official needs to show some improvement.

Hopefully the officiating crew on Sat at King Arena will not include Mr "Don't Mind I wasn't in the right position to make that call" Falkner

Darnell "Devin" Harris

USEE thot I would see   Darnell "Bill" Harris here

Wheaton head coach Mike Schauer noted, "One of the tough things whenever you get beat is to acknowledge how well your opponent played, and I thought Whitewater was fantastic tonight. They are the best defense team we have seen." Schauer's team won 23 games, the third-highest total since Wheaton joined Division III. He added of his team's strong season, "I am really pleased with our guys. In the end I want our team and our constituency to go, wow this was a pretty good team."

This is extremely gracious of Coach Schauer......One look at the free throw discrepancey tells you what I think of last nites game....and resulted in the TO difference....Congrats to Wheaton Senior's   

Wow didn't realize this .... I find this kind of amazing

"McCrary is a two-time All-American for the Thunder with 1,658 career points, 863 rebounds and 391 assists. He is fifth in Wheaton history in both assists and rebounds and has the eighth-highest point total in school history. He is just the third player in Division III history to score at least 1,600 points, grab 800 rebounds and dish out 350 assists in a career."[/glow][/glow][/glow]

Here is link for updates on Wheaton C  (Dave Lawrenz)

http://www.drl12.org/

Continue to keep Dave in your prayers.

Quote from: fcnews on March 02, 2009, 02:47:31 PM
Fontbonne is staying at the Hyatt in Leslie. Any info about the area would be appreciated.

Here is link to area hotels

http://www.wheaton.edu/visit/lodging.html

Sssshhhh!  Andone is still sleeping!!!!!

DH...You will be missed...

email me at mailto:gregjeanne@sbcglobal.net">gregjeanne@sbcglobal.net if you like...i hope it is not related to what I think it might be if so that is really too bad!

DHF..wondering the same thing we miss you!!! Were you at Wesleyan tonite?

Just counted it is 99 wins for the Hanover Seniors based on their home page stats...

Are there tickets still available for tonites Aurora / Calvin game?