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#1
Dynasty22 - I'm not condoning what a fellow student from here was calling the student in your fan section, however, under any circumstances you never go into another school's student section especially when you're outnumbered like you were. The incident did not have to be taken from the verbal level to the physical level that it was taken to. You have nothing to prove when you're outmanned the way you guys were. It was just asking for trouble.

However on the other hand you (and us as well) have just made the rivalry that much more bitter, and hopefully both of our schools' basketball program can keep playing at the level we did this year and keep this rivalry going. I come from a High School in Illinois that has the 4th winningest program in the nation, and a great tradition of basketball with many state championships and even a national champonship. So naturally when people came to our gym it was a big game for them. So when I came here I thought that the level of talent and excitement I would see would be greatly reduced. On one hand the talent has gone down a bit. When I was in high school we played Shaun Livingston, Andre Iguadola, Darius Miles, Sean Dockery, and so on. Of course no players of that level are going to be showcased in the SLIAC, but most of the excitement is still here. We had our bitter rivals in high school and often had altercations after the games. One game in regionals even went as far as having cops show up at a local McDonalds because of an altercation. These are the games we feel the most. When we beat that rival we feel great and when we lose we feel sick to our stomach. That truly is what is great about rivalries.

One thing I noticed that Dynasty did not address is the spitting incident. Maybe you personally can take the moral high ground and say you had nothing to do with it, but your players, even just one of them, represents your school so much more than all of your fans combined. And when something that disrespectful happens, don't play the card of how your school is all hard working, small town, blue collared, morally just, honest people, and tell us that our school is a bunch of city kids who have no morals and have never had to work a single day in their life. I've had a job consistently since I was 14, that doesn't sound to me like someone who's had mommy and daddy pay their way through life.

Again thanks for your time! 
#2
Regardless of this banter between SID or pitbull or whatever it is that is going on there have been some one sided comments being made on here as far as tearing down MU's fan section. You can say all that you want about racism here and heckiling women there. But the fact of the matter is that it was only 2 or 3 students out of like 50-60 that said anything racist or degrading to your women. You mad almost an identical sign as ours and you instigated and responded to our instigations just as often and evenly. So other than those 2 or 3 fans we're pretty even, and to say otherwise wouldn't be assesing the situation fairly.

Now let's look at two different incidents involving your Beavers. First there was the incident in which one of your players spit on Jason Rezabek. That is arguably the biggest form ofdisrespect in sports period. What did Rez do to him? He kept his cool and was the bigger man. Doesn't speak much of the blue collar upright citizen ethos some on your side have been tryin to convey.

Incident two. The confronatation after the game in which one of your players came down into our student section and tried to start an altercation. That by itself is unclassy enough, but also not too intelligent number wise. We had the numbers on you regardless of how big your guys were and did we play into your high school immature BS? I'm afraid not.

Nothing personal against you guys off the court or against your school or anything like that. You guys are happy there, we're happy here, let's just report the whole story. And on a side note, the whole city kids thing is pretty much not true for those there at the game. Most of those city kids, while not all of them are commuters and are often not involved in school activities like going to basketball games. Most of us down there are from places elsewhere. Which leads into my next point.

Beaverball4...I understand you don't like when someone disrespects your school. Completely understandable, but don't go over exaggerating about how good the athletes on your team are. Don't compare these kids to any of the top players to come out of northern Illinois/Chicago area. You're saying these kids can play with...Shaun Livingston, Dee Brown, Shannon Brown, Julian Wright, Bobby Frasor, Nate Minnoy, Jon Scheyer, Shaun Pruitt, Richie McBride, or Andre Iguadola? The fact of the matter is that most of these players did play Single A ball or it's equivelant. But I'm glad to hear you're having a great time at your school and are making the most out of your oppurtunity. I truly am and am not being sarcastic, that is what college is all about.

Thanks for your time in reading this and I am looking forward to reading your responses.