Quote from: piperinsider on March 19, 2011, 02:06:42 PM
That era had really good posts as you mentioned with Rosefelt and McCoy to an extent as well as solid wings Lonnie Robinson and Mike Keating. but probably not as good of a point guard. What that group didn't have was a point guard like a Nicolai. Sean Sweeney was solid before this group - but Brett Tuma and Andrew Dwyer made them vulnerable.

If I'm not mistaken, Sweeney overlapped with Schnettler and Rosefelt for at least a year, didn't he? They then added Keating, but maybe Sweeney had graduated by then.  I thought those teams were potential Final Four teams each year.  After losing Joe Scott, I'm not sure this year's team was expected to be as good as last year.  They certainly didn't dominate in conference play like they have in other years. 

What a shame that MIAC co-champion Carleton didn't even get a ticket to the dance.

Holy Cow!  I go out of town for Spring Break and come back to find out the Tommies are in the championship game.  Way to go Tommies!

Before this current run through the tournament, how would you rate this UST team against the other UST teams going back 5 or 6 years to the teams with Rosefelt and Schnettler?  I probably would put this team behind all of the others.  Does their tournament run change that? 

Quote from: Drake Palmer on February 11, 2011, 11:24:30 AM

+k as well.    Say, where's Gacman?

Probably hibernating in my Bear den until the Gusties exhibit some signs of life....

Drake,

What happened to the Redbirds after such a promising start to the season?  They perhaps have the best trio of players in the league and your namesake, at least on paper, may be the league's most complete player.

Quote from: Drake Palmer on February 10, 2011, 05:47:21 PM
Well, well, well,  look who woke up from his winter hibernation with the Baylor Bears?  I thought they had buried Nites somewhere on the west Texas prairies.  Nites, are you cleaning up in preparation to jump on the other Knights' bandwagon?  Good to see you back, even if it's only for playoff week!

Well, howdy to you too Drake.    I thought I best come back and see if VOJ and company might fire up the old Johnnie bandwagon and loan it to the Carleton followers. 

It's nice to see that not only do you remain the pillar of the MIAC post up board, but that you're now serving as the pillar of the Pick'em board by supporting all of those above you in the standings (which, it appears, is just about everyone).   

Quote from: carletonsid on February 10, 2011, 12:08:45 PM
Great win for the Knights and a playoff-type atmosphere at West Gym.

Real key, I thought, was Carleton's ability to defend the 3-point line. UST, the league's top 3-point shooting team, goes 3-for-21. Tom Sawatzke did a great job on Nicolai, holding him to 7 points on 3-of-13 shooting. Sawatzke had 11 points and zero turnovers as well. Caleb Rosenow was huge as well, going 6-for-8 with 16 points. UST also had 15 turnovers to the Knights' 11.

Schedule certainly favors the Knights at this point, as they have roadies at SMU, Bethel and Mac and then finish at home with the Oles. The Toms are at GAC on Saturday, then home to Concordia and and Hamline before finishing at SJU. Should be an interesting eight-day span starting Saturday!

Impressive win!   . . . and nice video clip on the Knights' website.

The legacy of the current Carleton Knights basketball team has been written:  A one point loss in the first round of the playoffs to the eventual D-III National Champions.  The Knights played them tougher than anyone in the tournament - and on the Pointers' own court.  Valiant try by the Knights won't help the players avoid the "if only" thoughts for years to come.

Oh so close, but, unfortunately, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. 

Quote from: papahoops on March 06, 2010, 12:39:59 PM

Quote from: Nites on March 06, 2010, 09:55:36 AM
The last two MIAC Player of the Year recipients combine for 18 points on 8-25 shooting (2-15 from beyond the arc) in the loss to Anderson.   
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Good point Nites. I was thinking the same thing. UST has overcome a lack of offensive firepower in the paint all year, but it really hurt them last night with Nicolai and Scott both experiencing poor shooting nights from 3 point land. It reminded me of those Mavs down your way when playoff time comes Nice effort by Healy, but not enough to balance out a very lackluster offensive performance by the rest of the squad. Other than last year's nice run by UST, another early exit year for the MIAC, although I don't think most of us are not terribly surprised. If I were voting in the polls next year, I would need to see a significant non-conference victory to put a MIAC team in the top 5 again.


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Well, my short-handed Mavs are in the midst of 10 game winning streak triggered by a big trading deadline swap that netted Haywood and Butler.  They did, however, dodge a bullet the other night against your T-Wolves when they took the bold move of resting J. Kidd for the evening.  We'll see if they revert to their usual playoff swoon.

The last two MIAC Player of the Year recipients combine for 18 points on 8-25 shooting (2-15 from beyond the arc) in the loss to Anderson.   

Interesting to read different accounts of the end of the Point-Carleton game.  From the Knights perspective:

QuoteJeremy Sutherland (Jr./Apple Valley, Minn./St. Bernard's) collided with a Pointer defender driving for the potential game-winning shot--with no foul being called--as the Knights' upset bid against fifth-ranked UW-Stevens Point was snatched away in the final seconds of the NCAA Tournament's first round, 59-58.

The way Point saw it: 

QuoteCarleton's Jeremy Sutherland attempted to drive the length of the court but excellent defense by Jared Jenkins (Milwaukee) resulted in a steal from Harris and the Pointers came away with a one point victory.

Quote from: Willy Wonka on March 05, 2010, 03:52:35 PM

Quote from: Drake Palmer on March 05, 2010, 02:56:20 PM

Quote from: Nites on March 05, 2010, 01:34:49 PM
All-Conference - Conference stats only:

   PPG   RB   FG%   FT%   3P%   A   ST   BS

Player 1   15.0   8.6   .864   .475   .296   1.6   13   2

Player 2   11.3   2.5   .419   .721   .343   1.5   22   6


Who's All-Conference and who's not?  Hint:  Think purple and it all makes sense.   

I see your point Nites, but...

If Player 1 was so special, don't you think that along with players B & C, who both made All Conference, that Team X would do better than a 7-13 conference record? 

I'm still miffed by the omission of Bryan Rosett. Not only did he make the All Defensive team last year, he also made All Conference. 

Completely disagree. Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. Judge the players on the merits they put forth on the court.

I mean, UST's top five JV players might be better than St. Mary's 4-8 rotation guys. If I had to bet on that game, I'd take the Tommies eight days a week. But why should that distinction matter in all-conference awards? While Palmer clearly has things to work on — passing and limiting turnovers, mostly — the stuff he is good at he is VERY good at. I feel pretty strongly that he was one of the five best players on the court in every game this season, no matter the opponent.

He finished tied for fourth in scoring and fifth in rebounding. He shot 48%. He was the most dynamic freshman the league has seen in at least a few years. If the biggest knock on him is his teammates aren't talented enough to post a winning record...that's really a shame.

Who would I take off to include him on the list? There are three easy candidates in my mind: McPartland, Fraase and Scott.

Scott can be excluded from this discussion because we all know the coaches aren't willing to swallow their pride to demote last season's joke MVP off the all-conference team. But the other two are very borderline picks, at best.

McPartland posted 11.3 PPG and 5.6 RPG while essentially splitting time (23.9 MPG) with reserves. His grinding style was commendable and fit GAC's offense well, he was never really a difference maker. He disappeared in the postseason games, too (4 PPG). You won't hear Hanson ever admit it, but I'm really not sure this Gustie team deserved even one all-conference player, much less two. They were a classic example of the sum exceeding the parts.

Fraase's situation is a little more similar to Palmer's in that he put up solid numbers (12.4 PPG, 10.4 RPG) on a team that struggled. However, he was benched in at least one game (vs. GAC) because of defensive deficiencies and, as a true post, shot just 45% from the floor. Apparently two extra wins cover for the preseason MVP candidate's step back this season and make him more worthy than Palmer, which is what I was referring to before, DP.

FWIW, I'm not surprised Nicolai won POY. The coaches set that standard a year ago and the next best candidates finished with a thud on average teams. It just wasn't a real strong pool to pick from, unlike a year ago.

Exactly.   Thank you Willy.

All-Conference - Conference stats only:

   PPG   RB   FG%   FT%   3P%   A   ST   BS

Player 1   15.0   8.6   .864   .475   .296   1.6   13   2

Player 2   11.3   2.5   .419   .721   .343   1.5   22   6


Who's All-Conference and who's not?  Hint:  Think purple and it all makes sense.   

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2010, 03:27:55 PM
Jeez, 16 first-teamers. Guess all the children truly are above average.

Yes, Pat, we live in the day and age where everyone gets a trophy as we wouldn't want to be insensitive and hurt anyone's feelings.   

It's really ridiculous.

Quote from: carletonsid on March 01, 2010, 10:54:37 PM

Quote from: columbianmaffia on March 01, 2010, 09:25:11 PM
anyone know if there will be a live video feed over the internet of the game....i looked at the CAR website and didnt see anything

CM and others - We're working on getting video up and running at UWSP. At this point, I feel safe in saying we're fairly certain we can pull it off. Heck, we did it at Simpson for the women's NCAAs a couple of years back by plugging in an old Apple Airport Express box into the soccer coach's office and made an instant wireless network. We're thinking we can do it at UWSP as well, as they actually have one hardwired ethernet connection in the gym.

Once we know for sure we'll post it on our website.

Can you get VOJ in to the be guest announcer?   

Quote from: Nites on February 24, 2010, 07:11:43 PM

Quote from: AO on February 24, 2010, 12:54:50 PM
If I were an Augie fan, I'd be watching whitworth, central and claremont-ms.  They could get to the table very early and the committee would be looking at a team with 3 losses to St. Thomas and a very strong strength of schedule (boosted by the additional loss to the tommies).  In the end, 8 losses might just be too many to overcome.

You mean boosted by an additional loss to Carleton, in which case St. Thomas gets the Pool C bid and Auggie goes home.    What do you think of that scenario?   

... but little did I know that Auggie would not survive to face the Knights in the championship game.  Nice season for Augsburg though.

Quote from: miacmaniac on February 24, 2010, 10:02:31 PM
Gotta love this clasic line from the St. Ben's basketball website:

"This is the Blazers fifth consecutive MIAC regular season championship, either won or shared."

noshyt, Sherlock?

+k   

Speaking of classic lines, I love this one about Tiger from Dan Jenkin's column in Golf Digest:

"As for Tiger's brand, boy did it take a hit.  For all of the Tiger idolaters out there, it must have been like finding out that ice cream sundaes give you gonorrhea."

.... and this one, speaking of Tiger: "I once made an effort to get to know the old silicone collector."