Hope everyone is having a great start to their summer!

It is already June, October will be here before you know it. Any word on how recruiting went for any of the SCIAC teams?

The schedule and turnaround CANNOT be an excuse. Cal Lu is not the only team that had to face such a schedule. It is the nature of the sport.

The SCIAC is getting very interesting as CMS and PP seem to have a lock to the 2 top spots in the SCIAC post season tournament where 6 teams seem to be fighting for the last 2 spots.

Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 7-0 12-4
Pomona-Pitzer 8-1 13-5
Cal Lutheran 5-4 14-4
Chapman 5-4 11-7
Whittier 4-4 10-7
Occidental 3-5 7-9
Redlands 3-5 7-10
La Verne 3-6 6-11
Caltech 0-9 3-15

As far as the Panthers tonight? They really need to overcome their problems they consistently have: Rebounding, defensive penetration, and turnovers to have a legit shot at winning tonight. If they can conquer those demons, there is no reason why they should not be one of the top 4 teams when its all said and done.

Redlands could beat Pomona tonight.

CIT will always compete hard and never quit but ULV will win tonight.

Oxy and CLU could be game of the night. CLU goes as Powdrill goes, same with Montoya and OXY.

One thing is for sure, the 2nd half of SCIAC play: DOGFIGHT!!!

Big Cat,
It's good to see another Chapman supporter here, and if you are not a Bokosky fan, that's cool too. But for you to come ONLINE and make the accusations you did about Bokosky, have no proof of it other than that you heard this from a "outside source" who's kid played at Chapman (Who you said does not like Bokosky), but you come on here anyway because "I have no reason to believe he would lie to me" is weak. I'm willing to bet this kid that "played" for Chapman probably never played at all and has an ax to grind because of it.

Being that many of you that are not in practices everyday with any of these teams you may be being unfair?

Big Cat calling Bokosky an ass? What coach in the SCIAC does not intense with his players. You compared Chapman to Duke? You do know that your beloved coach K drops as many F bombs as any other coach in America. Does that make him and many other college coaches an ass as well?

As for the guards, they are just undersized, that's all. Granted they are smaller than most guards in the SCIAC, but that is not a reflection and their time spent in the weight room. James and Zavrsnick look like they have spent some time in the weight room, SCIAC is just bigger.

Now, CU has their share of issues just like every other team in the SCIAC, but Big Cat for you to say the things you say make you sounds like your'e pissed because your son could not make their team. Too be undersized, inconsistent post play, and defensive help side problems, along with injuries they had to deal with(Both Youngs, Atwater, a promising freshman post Fidelibus, and the daily beatings those undersized guards take), considering they are 4-4 in the race for a postseason spot after a overtime win at Cal LU(Their 3rd overtime game in a week and a half), those players and Bokosky are doing alright.

Bob,
I have never seen you say a good thing about Chapman or its program, and when you report scores, you do not acknowledge CU as a member or report their scores like everyone else. I'm not complaining, but I would like to ask: Why do you hate Chapman so much? Just curious, so just asking...

Hey, I'm a Chapman alum, and a big supporter of CU athletics. But lets face it: Chapman WILL NOT get into the SCIAC EVER!

Chapman has applied since the move to D3 and the SCIAC have been denied, there is no reason to think they would change their minds now.

Chapman would need 6 of the 8 teams to vote them in and I have heard from friends within the conference the CMS, OXY, and Pomona will vote no, and there maybe another school on the fence. Why? That is a question for those schools to answer... Hopefully in the future when the question of scheduling comes up, they are directed to the schools that would not let Chapman be apart of the SCIAC. It would be nice to hear legitmate reasons as to why CU in the SCIAC would be bad rather than hateful banter.

As for the game Wednesday night, it was a fun game to watch as both teams battled from the tip. CMSStag is correct, there was a referee that was awful for both teams and made some really bad calls throughout the night. There is still the issue of 2 points that Chapman may have been screwed out of that is still in question. Regardless, it was a great game and i would be shocked if CMS didn't win the SCIAC this year. Clearly they are an odds on favorite.

People, let's be good to each other on here. There may be conference(SCIAC) with a team on the outside looking in(Chapman), but we are all socal D3 basketball and anyone's success out here is good for all of us. Your opinions are yours and that is cool, but lets all go on other sections of these boards and defend and support what we all obviously love: Southern California Division 3 Basketball

I assume everyone knows that you cannot just "join" a conference. You cant just show up one day and say "Here we are! Who do we play?" A team has to apply to get in a conference.

I know Chapman has applied many times to join, only to be declined. As for why, CU is as good academically or better than most SCIAC's. As for the student body, kinda ridiculous, but Chapman does plan on almost doubling the the current student body in the next 8 to 10 years, so that could be a problem. Who knows?

There was one year when I think it was PP that dropped football and the SCIAC offered Chapman to join the conference, but only football! Maybe to keep their AQ, but the school president said no, it's all or none.

As for men's basketball, my cousin used to play for Chapman, I went to CU, and I am good friends with some of the coaches and I have been told coach Bokosky every year attempts to schedule SCIAC opponents twice a year. The only team to willing to do it has been LaVerne. Bokosky has even been willing to play on weeks teams play CIT, but they decline.

Why has CU and Oxy not play this year? Probably a matter of not finding a date that fits for both teams. It happens, no one is ducking anybody, everyone just relax.

Perhaps instead of ragging Chapman all the time, maybe we should ask some of the SCIAC's why they do not play Chapman more. They have no obligation to do so, but if West Coast Baptist, La Sierra, or that Sports University is so bad, why not give those spots to Chapman?

Lets all be nice to one another.

Former Chapman University player Brady Bergeson is an assistant at D1 Sacramento State. Also, another former CU player Dave Joeger is an assistant in the NBA for the Memphis Grizzlies.

Chapman beat #14 Cal Lutheran 80-74 on Friday.

This is really getting out of hand.

One group will never be convinced Chapman is worthy of a birth this year, and the other group will never be convinced the process of selecting teams is fair. Truth is, both sides are right! The process could be better, but until CU's schedule improves, they have very little margin of error in their games in order to make it. This conversation is getting very old.

I think we all appreciate everyone's passion for this but lets all just agree to disagree and wish all teams hoping for a pool b bid(Chapman included) good luck.

"Chapman should consider playing a lot more games in the beginning of the season against SCIAC and other conference teams so they don't run into a scheduling problems at this time of the year with no team to play except La Sierra."

Chapman has tried to play more SCIAC's during that time span(Nov, and Dec), but SCIAC's are not as willing at times. I said before in my last post CU had a scheduled game vs. Cal Lu this year but Cal Lu pulled out because they did'nt want to play on that day.

CU would be willing to play all SCIAC's every year, twice even. CU even suggested that they play the same week teams played Cal Tech, but they turned that down as well.

Please do not think Chapman has not tried. They have tried hard to improve their schedule and are planning more tournamnets of their own.

OB,

I see your point, and I agree. Like I said before, I give my crap all the time for some of the teams they play. They do in fact need to improve their schedule and critizing in some cases, is well deserved.

I just wanted to clarify that it was not CU's intention to play such an inferior schedule. It is hard to tell what a team will be like a year from now.

Chapmans schedule is not good, but some games they played were out of their control.

5 games vs. La Sierra: If you check the schedule, you will see CU only has LSU scheduled twice. If you add the Round Robin tournaey in january, that would be 3 times. The first time these 2 teams played, it was in Whittier's tournament in after the new year. CU was supposed to play another D3 team, but WC for some reason could not find a team and brought in LSU late. CU wanted to play WC instead looking at the possibilty of playing LSU 5 times, but WC declined. The post-seaon tournament was supposed to have 4 teams, but Nebraska Weslyan didn't want to travel, so the tournament has 3 teams(CU, LSU, and UCSC) play each other over the next 3 days.

SCIAC: Cal Lu was supposed to be a CU opponent, but CalLu wanted to changed the date and eventually pulled out. I think they are on the schedule next year along with Pomona Pitzer too!

Bible Colleges: I am friends with one of the coaches and give him crap about them scheduling these teams, but it is hard to find regional opponents after christmas. Conference teams dont want to play during conference(Vanguard did, but probably thought that game would be easier), and there are not any other teams that would help the in-region schedule.

I am not here to bash anyone, or the teams I mentioned, I graduated from CU, always been a big CU basketball fan, a freind of one of the coaches, and send my kids to their summer camps(which are fantastic by the way. Hopefully this gives some insight to why they play who they play.

OxyBob: Dont always agree with you, but love reading your posts. Informative, passionate, and fun at times!!

With CU's opponent WP, I guess we can count on another D3 tournament with no independent:

Chapman  22-3 0.880 Won 8

Rust  13-11 0.542 Lost 2

St. Joseph's (Bklyn.)   10-13 0.435 Lost 1

UC Santa Cruz  9-13 0.409 Won 2

Nebraska Wesleyan 10-15 0.400 Lost 2

North Central (Minn.)  6-12 0.333 Lost 1

Finlandia 7-14 0.333 Won 1

Lancaster Bible 8-17 0.320 Lost 2

Lincoln  8-17 0.320 Lost 1

Spalding  2-5 0.286 Won 1

Maine-Presque Isle 3-17 0.150 Lost 7

La Sierra  3-21 0.125 Lost 1