Quote from: dumezrules on March 17, 2008, 04:31:08 PM
Is there a video feed from Salem for all games Friday and Saturday on this website??

Pat,

I would just like to confirm that this is what you were answering "yes" to.  If I remember correctly there was no video feed for the championship game last year because CSTV (now CBS College Sports Network) owned the rights.  I see the championship game is on their schedule again this season.  Do they not have exclusive rights to the video?

Thanks in advance.

Quote from: nescac hoops on April 12, 2007, 10:43:43 AM
Nescac 1,
good point about nescac teams only being eligable for 13 yrs now. admittingly, i forgot about those years. however, when i was at williams in the mid/late 90's, hixon's teams were not real contenders to williams until the end of my time there and not "nationally known", even if they weren't allowed to go to the ncaa's. i can't speak for his teams in the 80s but i THINK that his teams became very good in the late 90's - present. he may have had some strong years along the line but i don't think they were consistantly strong until somewhere in the late 90's....maybe i'm wrong though.

Coach Hixon had many good teams before the late '90's . . . ECAC champs in '88, '95, and '96 to name a few.

To mention a couple of others, the '91-'92 team, like Williams, lost in the ECAC semifinals.  Then, during the first season when NESCAC allowed its members to compete in the NCAA's ('93-'94), Amherst lost a close one at Williamstown and won 89-60 at Amherst; Amherst then dealt Franklin and Marshall its only D3 defeat of the season before losing to eventual champ Lebanon Valley.

 

Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 10, 2007, 03:28:01 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2007, 08:09:27 PM
Endicott was ranked No. 207 of 403 teams this season in the Massey Ratings.

Well, Amherst95 did say that Endicott was "halfway decent" ... although perhaps the word "to" should've been inserted in between the other two words.

Well . . . in the season I mentioned they were 152 of 396.

So they were "61% (to) decent" or thereabouts.

Quote from: diehardfan on April 08, 2007, 12:26:44 AM

Quote from: Amherst95 on April 07, 2007, 08:23:10 PM
How do I edit?  Obviously '05-'05 s/b '05-'06.

I fixed it.... I don't know what Pat's rules are exactly, since I already had a billion posts when he transfered to this board... but I think that when you have more posts, you will get the "modify" button that most of us have. 

Thanks.  Right now I'm a little intimidated by your post-fixing skills.   

How do I edit?  Obviously '05-'05 s/b '05-'06.

Too bad, as the '04-'05 rankings would have been the latest when the game was scheduled.  I do remember Endicott got pulverized by Tufts in the first round last ('05-'06) season.

I was at the Amherst-Endicott game . . . only the second game of the '05-'06 season but they hung with us all the way.

We didn't play them this season . . . I referred to last season and the previous one.

Last season Amherst played Endicott in that tourney.  Endicott had made the NCAA field the previous season and did so again last year.  They were certainly at the least a "halfway decent" team.

It also bears emphasis that Amherst has repeatedly included the region's stronger teams on its schedule -- Brandeis, R.I.C., Clark and Springfield in past years, Lasell, etc. etc. etc.  (Yes I know our region lacks the depth of others, but we can't move the school to Wisconsin.)  And we've travelled outside our region to face historically strong schools as well -- Trinity TX, Occidental, Pomona-Pitzer, and College of NJ most recently.

I'm less familiar with Williams' scheduling, but they deserve a lot of credit.  They didn't have to play Holy Cross or invite Wheaton IL to their own tourney.

Quote from: diehardfan on March 31, 2007, 03:16:30 AM
Williams 04... definitely. That final four was stronger than this one, in my opinion, by a pretty good measure. I think the Williams-Amherst semifinal game was close more because it was  rivalry game than because of the "This year's Amherst team was stronger than the 04 team who played close to Williams." argument.

diehardfan:  There are no more knowledgeable posters than you on this site.  Nevertheless, to the extent you suggest that the '04 seminifinal game was close because it was a rivalry game, you make a conclusion which is not supported by the results of the teams' other games that season.  Also, it's not clear how the rivalry would affect a national semifinal game, in which, presumably, the players would already have maximum motivation.

Re the question of the '04 Williams team vs. the '07 Amherst team, these things are always fun to argue about.  Personally I can't take part, since there's no way I could talk about it objectively (although I can wonder why we're not talking about Williams' '03 champs instead).  What I'm sure of is that posterity does not recognize finer points like this.  Posterity remembers banners, and does not offer meaningful distinctions between them.

I sent Simmons a message suggesting that Holy Cross would have missed the NESCAC conference tourney this year, since Bates was last in and Bates was good.  I'm sure he'll read it very soon.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 23, 2007, 12:02:32 AM
Grinnell and Redlands are playing each other next year. Unfortunately, Coach Smith wasn't allowed to be around for it.

Where?

Gregory Sager:  In using the WIAC as an example, I omitted details of which I was certain you were aware.  Also, I don't believe my meanings were so vague as you assert.  I said the conferences "fancy themselves to represent" something, literally meaning they form that conception based on incomplete evidence.  The contextual link you made seems to assume a different meanining.

Re the "academic quality of Calvin [and] similar D3 midwestern institutions", to be clear I am not casting any aspersions on their academic quality.  Arguably "educational" was the wrong choice of words, but the difference is significant.

Quote from: OxyBob on March 22, 2007, 06:46:30 AM

Finally, congratulations to your team for winning the whole thing.

OxyBob

Thanks!  We were so close a couple of times before.  I wish Amherst would come out here more often so I could see them play.

Last year I was back east and after Amherst's second round game I ended up listening to the second half of Oxy - Puget Sound game on my computer.  They nearly had it.  Adjusting to that tempo right after playing CMS must have been a challenge.  OTOH you do play Redlands a lot.

Which reminds me:  Has Redlands ever played Grinnell?  That would be fun to watch.

Gregory Sager:  With due respect, what you "get" is very different from what I gave.  I have attended two large public universities (and taught at one), and I would never be so foolish as to endorse the sniveling point of view which you apparently believe I hold.

If I'm not mistaken, the average WIAC member's enrollment exceeds the average NESCAC and SCIAC member's enrollment by three or four times.  Also, every WIAC member is public, whereas every SCIAC and NESCAC member is private.  This is the entirety of what I meant in my previous post.

As to the differences between public and private education, you apparently read into my posts sentiments which I did not write and do not believe.  I'm sorry if I was vague, but I don't believe I wrote anything to support the assertion that I have a snobblish view of public education.  To be clear, I absolutely do not believe that private higher education is inherently superior to public higher education.

As to the differences between educational ideologies, I randomly chose two schools to make my point.  Here is the stated vision of Calvin College:

Calvin College is a comprehensive liberal arts college in the Reformed tradition of historic Christianity. Through our learning, we seek to be agents of renewal in the academy, church, and society. We pledge fidelity to Jesus Christ, offering our hearts and lives to do God's work in God's world.

And here is an excerpt from the mission statement of Bates College:

Bates is a college of the liberal arts and sciences, nationally recognized for the qualities of the educational experience it provides. It is a coeducational, nonsectarian, residential college with special commitments to academic rigor, and to assuring in all of its efforts the dignity of each individual, and access to its programs and opportunities by qualified learners.

Again, I am not endorsing either view.  But I submit that these institutions have chosen for themselves distinctly different educational philosophies, with the key words being "Christian" and "nonsectarian".