Fromafar, I posted about Fishers recruiting class a few pages back, it is supposedly going to be very good and deep, considered one of the best ever ranging from players accross the country.  Word of mouth is the players also have good heads on there shoulders so we will see what they can do on the court. As Fisher has good players coming back only 1 or 2 need to have an impact.  Fisher should be the team to beat as usually, even if they arnt, they should but until another team actually proves they deserve any hype whatsover, I feel like this is a annual saying these days.

I think IC will be good but they usually don't amount to taking the title as they are usually streaky and RIT has disappointed last few years. I'd have to go with Fisher at the #1 spot as usual, even if they don't have the talent they typically play the most consistent and best team basketball in the league. With Koch coming back who could be player of the year now that he has a year under his belt, Jordan gettings 3 year starter/leader at the point, Will Cornet athletic wing, and Jason Norson very solid Big man who should shine now that he is a sophemore, they have good pieces in place.  They have a very very good recruiting class coming in consisting of players from Colorado, California, Pittsburgh, and Connecticut (I think), includes mostly wing players, 1 pg, and a 6'8 center. 

The losses of Newman and Wopperer will hurt a little bit but Norson should have a better year than Wopp had last year and Gettings took over as the pg anyways in the prior years.

any other info on recruits for other schools?

guys I know theres no naz posters ever on here and fisher is the only 8 team left in the ncaa tourney but i think the PG discussion couldve waited until after the season. 

Does anyone know what happened to Koch in the Brandeis game, I am assuming he got hurt as he only had 5 minutes logged with no fouls.  That would have been a huge blow.

I would rather have Burton than McAdam if starting a team from scratch.

I would take o'brien. Especially if it comes down late in the game.  Throw stats out the door, you can't compare stats when comparing a fisher player as the stats are spreadout as all 5 players are typically very good and they play well as a team.  I think burton is the most polished skills wise, McAdam is great for the stats but Ive never caught him play that great even when he put up good stats I woudl always say i didnt even notice him doing well how did he get all of those stats.  O'brien is the best to get in the lane and create, he is also probably the best defender out of the 3.  Burton is very good but is hard to compare is he much different.

O'brien strentghs:
Stongest
Best defender
Winner

Burton
Best Shooter
most fluid

McAdam
best stats
Best rebounder

I actually think the loss may help fisher in the tourny. It obviously won't help with getting a good see but I don't think the Fisher team has the poise and heart to continue with its win streak much longer.  Now that they got the loss out of the way maybe it will knock them back down to reality and they can regroup before the tourny.

utica lost goodemount as the coach right? thats it right there

Yeah which ones? saying they aren't elite team is a fact not really an opinion. everything else was positive. Sounds like Fisherman could be the guy from Hartwick. maybe he transfered.

Bomber3, I agree that Fisher should not at this point be considered an elite team.  For one 'ELITE' teams don't lose at home to a team like Hobart and 2 lose to a team without their best player.  I knew fisher would be inconsistent similar to last year, however, to their benefit they do have some new pieces to their team and I expect them to be much better by the end of the season as they mesh and Kornacker gets the proper rotations set.   I do however, think they could get 20+ wins this season.  Desales is better than most teams in our conf this year if not all of them, especially if they shoot lights out from 3 like they did against fisher.  If Fisher played them again with Braswell I bet the score would be similar given Desales won't shoot it like that again.  In addition, Fisher played them on their home floor and only lost by 2.  The e8 is not very good this yea so i expect fisher to pick up a lot of in conference wins plus atleast 1 win in the conf tourny.  I think they'll hit 20 wins when its all said and done.

perfectly put sjfcards.

Thats what I get for reading posts when I am at work . 

Gobombers im with you on your comments to Fisherman.  Fisher in my opinion does have the best talent, the most experience, and are the team to beat in the league.  However, to say class of the league is a little overboard considering they did have a let down to Hobart.  This won't be the only let down Fisher has, I don't think they have the leadership or mental strength as a team to have consistent great play as in prior fisher teams.  They should win the league and have a great record, possibly finish top of the region, however, the region is down vs past years. 

Bomber 3, you think they will be lucky to make the e8 tournament? I don't think that is a very good opinion as fisher was picked by the coaches to finish first, not sure how that translates? RIT has a number of losses but has beat UofR which is a good win.  In addition, Fisher vs RIT is a league game which is usually a battle as the teams are so familiar with each other. 

All in all, it is too early to tell whos good and whos not.  Ithaca had some good wins then some bad losses.  The game vs Amherst clearly demonstrated Ithaca is not going to have much of a run in the NCAA tournament this year, however, this is expected as they lost good seniors.  I do think Ithaca will finish top 4 in the league if not 2nd behind Fisher.  I wouldn't count out Utica they are always tough and always get in new players. 

RIT will come around during the 2nd semester as they usually play good defense and are very physical. Hartwick always starts the season off good 6-0 i think the past 3 yrs so I wouldnt put to much emphasis on their early season wins.

I didn't have a chance to see the Fisher game but it looked to be a great win for Fisher as Bport was 3-0 with wins over st. lawerence and tufts.  Gettings seemed to be coming into his own with 18 and the rest of the scoring was its usual balance from fisher teams.  Getting these good out of conf. wins is a great sign considering the e8 is weak with no real contenders at this point with RIT with a loss and ithaca with 2 losses.

Having known the past Amherst teams and program very well, Even though they lost a lot, there reserves are better than most e8 teams.  I am assuming Ithaca had to put up a lot of 3 and take the risk of being on fire in order for the game not to be out of hand.  I doubt ithaca had an option to through it inside against amherts bigs.

good point. I guess i was referring to newmans fresh year when i saw them go head to head and Mcadam was getting all of the hype but I just didnt see it.