Kiely will get drafted or sign a minor league deal if not drafted.

If Trinity got hosed by not having Wood or Graham get on the list, Steve Ragonese should be pretty upset as he was the NESCAC player of the year and didn't get a sniff either.

Crazy factoid about this Trinity team is that it didn't even make the NESCAC tourney last year or the year before.

Has there ever been a team make the NCAA tourney while not qualifying for their own conference tourney?

Amherst, Tufts and other NESCAC teams not close to what? Eastern? National powerhouse? Not sure what you're saying...only thing I know is that Tufts plays Eastern as tough as anyone in the region...reason I know that is that Holawaty said it to me when I was talking to him about Fontaine (I am one of his Legion coaches). So I doubt your coach would be as brazen in his description on the other NESCAc teams.

If so, I guess Keene St. is not even close too, as they haven't done anything on the national landscape. So. Maine must be approaching "not even close", too. When's the last time they won a regional?

Face it. No matter what you bring up, it's easy to see that the top of the NESCAC is very close to the top of the LEC at this time.

Met fan-What do you have to do to become a national power? Is three CWS' in a decade enough? Like I said, if not, there are very few national powers out there. I guess Eastern is the only national power in New England.

Trinity sure as heck is not my team...I'm a Jumbo fan. Can't stand Trinity. I just can't figure out how you guys can discredit them after the year they've had... especially as another LEC team is getting blown out by them.

Trinity will be in their 3rd CWS this decade. If that ain't a national powerhouse, somebody needs to show me one. How many NE teams have been to 3 CWS tourneys in this decade? How many have even been to more than 1?

And "used to be" was wrong...my bad...Eastern is still a national powerhouse. So is Trinity.

And where did I say the NESCAC is as good as the LEC. I said it's the 2nd best conference in the region and that it is gaining on the LEC. 5 years ago, it was alot further behind the LEC than it is now.

The NESCAC is the 2nd strongest league in the region. Amherst, Williams, and Tufts are always ranked or receiving votes in NE polls.

Look at how the top 4 teams did this year in non conference games. And Tufts was having a rebuilding year!

While I agree the bottom is awful, the bottom of the LEC (UMD/PSC) is pretty darn horrific, too. But it does have a much bigger history on the national scale. It is clearly the class of the region. The NESCAC is gaining on it, though, as Trinity becomes the national power that Eastern used to be.

I got news for you guys...the only certainty is that if Trinity was in the LEC, every other team in the LEC would have finished one spot lower in the rankings.

I've seen Morin and Conway and even Gilblair at his best. Tim Kiely is simply better than them, and nobody has a 2-3-4 as good as Bayer, Barnard, Regan.

Would they have lost a game? Maybe. But let's not act like the NESCAC is some weak league. This is the first time in 4 years it hasn't been a 2 bid league, and look at how the top of the league did vs. the vaunted LEC...Trinity almost won the NY regional last year and they didn'at even make the NESCAC tourney! Also, Trinity played a pretty solid FLA schedule this year. Most of the teams they played were top of their league teams. St Thomas, Babson, St. Lawrence, Denison, and St. Mary's were all good wins. I do agree that the NESCAC was down this year, but Tufts, Amherst, and Williams still came up with some very good wins this year.

Lastly, if Trinity was in the LEC, there are probably over 100 kids over the last 10 years that would have gone there but were rejected by admissions.

For anyone to suggest that Trinity would have lost X amount of games if they had done this or that simply misses the point. This is a loaded team...on the mound and at the plate.

TR's analysis of Trinity is spot on, although I still think their weakness is infield defense. Other than Graham, the infielders are average defensively. They have been known to kick it around at the wrong time...but when you've got the horses on the mound, an error here or there is easy to overcome.

Now it gets tricky for Trinity. Barnard is probably the most hittable guy they have and if he loses, I have no idea what they'll do in the final game.

Still, they are hitting the ball prety well, so in a slugfest, they'll more than hold their own.

Eastern had better computer #s than Suffolk. That's why they went. Suffolk killed it's hopes by losing to St. Joe's 4 time in 10 days. Can't do that and get an at-large, especially when it happens at the end of the season.

And I know you LEC guys are loyal, but Trinity has beaten plenty of good teams this year...they beat Babson, Denison, and St. Thomas in Florida. They beat Amherst(which no LEC team was able to do this year) 4 times, swept Tufts, and Bayer made Eastern's lineup look very weak. It's not the toughest schedule in the world, but this is a team that is on par with the Serfass-Dipietro Eastern team that won it all.

Should be called the Trinity invitational...I am guessing Regan will go on Wednesday, which will set up Kiely for the 2n dround and Bayer for the 3rd. I don't see anybody beating either of thsoe pitchers.

Biggest game I see is the potential 2nd round matchup of Keene vs. Wheaton.

Question for any Trinity folk here...
Is Bayer a sophomore or a junior? He's listed as a soph. on the online roster, but he pitched for 2 seasons at UVM before transferring to Trinity.

Tim Kiely from Trinty has to be a 1st teamer. 9-0, 70 innings pitched, 1.4 ERA, 75 K's and 1 (that's right, 1) walk....

NESCAC teams really screw themselves for atlarge bids because of their scheduling limitations. Not being able to play the full 40 games really makes their resumes look a lot weaker.

Williams has the inside track to overtake Amherst. They could definitely face each other, and that could be the X factor. I give Williams the inside track because facing Tufts seems alot easier than facing Kiely and Trinity.

The weather is really going to hurt whatever NESCAC team(s) end up in the NCAAs. On Wednesday, NESCAC teams will have a pitcher going on 3 days rest. While Kiely is EXTREMELY impressive, I don't think he's ever done that before.

There will be no delay untill Monday. The tourney must be completed on Sunday for NCAA selection committee purposes.

The teams will play on Saturday morning. The winners will play each other and the losers will play each other in the afternoon. The remaining games will happen on Sunday.

Some things to consider.
1. Whoever loses on Saturday will need to win 3 games on Sunday to win it. Whoever wins twice on Saturday will need to win 1 game on Sunday.
2. Whoever moves on to the NCAAs will have a major disadvantage in that their #1 will be throwing on 3 days rest.

Williams beats Amherst to win the NESCAC West.

Tufts vs. Williams and Trinity vs. Amherst.