Good luck to everybody this weekend. I will be in Sunny California until next Wed. Jaybird you are going to have to hold the fort down asn the only Elmhurst poster untill I get back. I am going to tyr to listen to the game on my laptop, but I might be golfing instead.

For the record NCC.2008 I don't know that they liked to be called Guru's. Thats just something I like to call them. I call them that out of respect for there knowledge of D3 football.( all sports for that matter).

Wow, The Cards better hope that the 2 D3 Guru's are off base on this one.

jaybird, I think that they are so athletic that even on the rare occasion that they are out of position they make plays anyway. I think with NCC's defense and their +11 T.O. ratio that they win by 14. I think it will be a claose game with NCC getting a late score after a turn over. With the lack of Millikin posters on the board, can someone give me a scouting report on The Big Blue?

Thanks Mr. Yipsi, and CardinalAlum

So if the season ended today and someone in the regional rankings might not be picked by the national committee?

How are the regional rankings done? Do the same peple who give the pool c bids make them and do they use the same criteria?

When you say " Wenger and only Wenger" and use the word ONLY in all caps you are clearly dismissing all other candidates completely.

CardinaAlum, " Wenger and ONLY Wenger is clearly the DPOY" WOW I know you are a NCC fan but to dismiss the player leading the conference in tackles, tackles for loss and sacks. If I had a vote and had to vote today I would probably pick Wenger but it surely isn't a 1 Horse race.

Works for me Augie6 + K for You.

Dumb & Dumber or in this case jaybird and Comet

Congrat's to Matt D'Angelo, Randy Wright and Adam Pucylowski for getting CCIW players of the week. How would you like to coach a Defense with Wenger and Wright as your linebackers?

For the Llife of me I can't figure out how my production at work drops so bad in September, October and November

My last comment on if Elmhurst belongs in the "Augie6 top 45' . Using The Others recieving votes (ORV). teams 40 through 46 are # 40 Carleton SOS 141 9 points better than Elmhurst. They are 6-2,4-2 in the 7th ranked (preseason) conference. They lost to Gustavus Adolphus (6-2,4-2) and St. Thomas (5-3,4-3).
#41 Curry SOS 145 5 points better than Elmhurst. They are 8-1,5-1 While playing in NEFC Conference ranked 24th strongest (again preseason). They lost to Plymoth ST. (8-1,6-0) #42 Gustavus Adolphus with by far the best SOS of any team in the ORV of 81. They play in the MIAC the 7th strongest conference. They are 6-2, 4-2 and lost to St.Johns (6-2,4-2) and St.Thomas (5-3,4-3). #43 Hobart SOS-146 only 4 points better than Elmhurst. They are 6-1,4-1 and play in LL the 13th ranked conference. They lost to Union (4-3,2-3). #44 Plymouth State SOS of 133 17 points better than Elmhurst. They also play in the NEFC the 24th ranked conference. They are 8-1, 6-0 ther only loss to a 3-5 Mt. Ida. #45 St. Johns Fisher a SOS of 181 31 points worse than Elmhurst They play in the 4th ranked coference E8. Their 3 losses coming to #1 MT. Union to (6-1,3-1) Hartwick and to (7-2,1-1) Salisbury. #46 is Moravion their SOS is 159 9 points worse than Elmhurst. They play in CC the 11th ranked conference and are 7-2, 5-2 they lost to Dickinson (4-4,3-3) and to Gettysburgh (3-5,3-3) compared to Elmhurst who's SOS is 150 they are 6-2, 3-3 in the 5th best conference in the country and there losses were to Augustana (6-2,4-1) and to IWU (5-3, 2-3) So yes I would say that Elmhurst belongs in this discussion. And for the last time I did not nor have I ever said that Elmhurst belongs in the top 25.

Comet,

Just don't see the facts to back this up.  There are 239 teams in DIII.  Putting Elmhurst in the top 35 to 45 would mean they are in the upper 15% to 20% of teams in DIII.  IMO, One upset against a ranked team (and until they prove differently, the Wheaton win was a big upset) does not qualify Elmhurst for that position.  Elmhurst has had a decent record over the past few years, but, that has been largely in part to the cupcake teams that they play for their non-conference schedule.  They have not had a winning record in CCIW since 1985.  It looks like they will finally break that string this year, but, most likely, it will be a 4 and 3 record if they beat Millikin and lose to NCC.  4 of their 6 wins this year came against very poor teams with a combined record of 6-26.  Until they can consistently beat some of the top teams in the CCIW year in and year out, they won't be considered a credible challenger to the CCIW crown, let alone a player on the national stage.  The talk about being ranked in the top 25 or being in the receiving votes category is a big stretch based on one upset victory.   

Augie6, First I agree that Elmhurst "pre-season" schedule is week. I Agree that they are not top 25 and completely understand how the others recieving votes is calculated. I never said they were a top 45 team. I said I think they would stack up well in that category. I can say with confidence that any team you would put in that category would halve 3 to 4 "cupcakes" either non conference or the fact that they play in a weaker conference. And last I believe it is the 2008 top 35 to 45 we are talking about. Teams should not be ranked based on what they did in the last few years after the 9th week of the season. Last year was relavent for pre-season rankings and the first few weeks untill things sort themselves out.