I think if W&J is able to hold Tunde Ogun to under 300 yards, the Presidents may have a chance

Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 15, 2008, 02:28:04 PM
Right...

and I'm glad its not only in Kentucky again this year, but on Thomas More's campus. 

I bet you are

SaintsFAN

Love your psychology.. "I wouldn't be worried about the Saints because of what they've done to us annually." 

Last year, TMC was without its starting QB and W&J's defense was more stingy. As you well know what is past is past. I think the game will be a great one, and a close one as well. Allow me one cliche..the team that makes the fewer mistakes will win

I don't really know, and I am getting to the point I don't really care

One last Shakespeare reference: "Much ado about nothing."

The PAC Web page reports in its week 4 conference notes: "Waynesburg head coach Rick Shepas announced that preseason All-American sophomore RB Robert Heller has left the Yellow Jacket program." Not sure if Shepas made that announcement before he commented on the "resolution of issues" thing.

Nonetheless, it appears the "tragedy" has been played out (even though no one died)

"Tragic heroes contribute to their own destruction by acts in which we see a flaw in their character, or, by tragic error."

Well Bob, if we believe what is written and quoted it seems no one is quite sure whether he is injured or not. Shepas said Heller has not been treated by the school's training staff; hasn't been around much since the Wooster game; didn't accompany team to Hanover, but instead watched W&J and Frostburg; contemplated transferring after last year. This can't be sitting well with his teammates.

How long is Shepas willing to let Heller "resolve his issues?" This whole thing is playing out like a Shakesperean tragedy. I am willing to bet, despite all the discord surrounding the Heller saga, that if he  does resolve whatever issues he has, he will back in the lineup.

Maybe his teammates should be asked if they want him back. The longer this festers without a resolution, I think the Wbg. program is going to suffer.

Not so sure the decision is Heller's to make

Saints Fan

Maybe W&J posters are waiting for the defense to show up at the games.. Who knows? Thought it was amusing to read the game summary of the TM-Wbg game, and see that Robert Heller kicked all those field goals. The freshman kicker wore Heller's No.. 3..thus the confusion. Nonetheless, congrats on a big win. I think TM might well be the President's biggest challenge this year, especially playing in Ky. Concern I have is if the offense somehow falters, the defense is not prepared to be a gamesaver, unless things begin to improve immediately. Grove City put up 41 points against Bethany, so they must have some fire power.. Don't really know anything about Bethany's D, though.

I think it will be a very interesting year in the PAC.  Frankly, it could be a toss up when November comes around

Some changes, but nothing too drastic..playing with 5 dbs..but I think the linebackers need to play tighter and more aggresive..would like to see more pressure from the down linemen, but which D coordinator wouldn't. The defense is coming along..hopefully as the season progresses the offense won't be asked (or need) to score 40 to 50 points.

Bob and Saints fan

There used to be a time not so long ago when 17 to 21 points from the offense was all that was needed to win. The defense would either pitch a shutout or give up a cheap score near the end of the game. Now, incredulously, 50 points may not be enough. No wonder pundits and pollsters look at W&J with a skeptical eye.

It's time to put aside the banter about Oberlin and talk about whether W&J can keep Frostburg State from scoring 35 points!

see if this works..story was on AP sports wire


By The Associated Press
First Team
Offense
Quarterback — Cullen Finnerty, 6-foot-2, 210 pounds, senior, Grand Valley State.
Running backs — Danny Woodhead, 5-9, 200, senior, Chadron State; Germaine Race, 5-11, 225, senior, Pittsburg State.
Wide receivers — Eric Fowler, 6-3, 205, senior, Grand Valley State; Weston Dressler, 5-8, 164, junior, North Dakota.
Tight end — Michael Allen, 6-7, 264, senior, Whitworth.
Offensive linemen — Ben Hochstein, 6-4, 298, junior, Nebraska-Omaha; Robert Duncan, 6-0, 268, senior, North Carolina Central; Alan Barbre, 6-4, 295, senior, Missouri Southern; Robbie Klinetrobe, 6-2, 295, senior, Chadron State; Heath Benedict, 6-6, 320, junior, Newberry.
Kicker — David Chudzinski, 6-0, 187, junior, Wayne State.
All-purpose player — Evan Prall, 6-1, 173, senior, East Stroudsburg.
Defense
Linemen — Alton Pettway, 6-3, 258, senior, Albany State; Mike McFadden, 6-0, 255, senior, Grand Valley State; Trey Lewis, 6-3, 290, senior, Washburn; Alex Hall, 6-4, 250, junior, St. Augustine's.
Linebackers — Ben Stroup, 6-1, 215, senior, Edinboro; Jared Brock, 6-1, 210, sophomore, West Texas A&M; Kevin Jones, 6-1, 210, senior, St. Augustine's.
Defensive backs — Jordan Davis, 6-0, 198, senior, South Dakota; Mario Harris, 5-8, 180, senior, Wesley; Dan Peters, 6-1, 207, senior, Shepherd; Craig Haywood, 5-10, 190, senior, King's (Pa.).
Punter — Curtis Lilly, 6-5, 225, senior, East Central.
Second Team
Offense
Quarterback — Jimmy Terwilliger, senior, East Stroudsburg.
Running backs — Stefan Logan, senior, South Dakota; Nate Kmic, sophomore, Mount Union.
Wide receivers — Michael Clark, senior, Wesley; Ashton Gronewold, junior, Missouri-Rolla.
Tight end — Mike Peterson, junior, Northwest Missouri State.
Offensive linemen — Rayshaun Hollings, senior, Southeastern Oklahoma;Tim McCutcheon, junior, California, Pa.; Chris Teeter, senior, Washington & Jefferson; Jason Capizzi, senior, Indiana, Pa.; Sam Funches, senior, North Carolina Central.
Kicker — Jeff Schebler, freshman, Wisconsin-Whitewater
All-purpose player — Chris Sharpe, junior, Springfield.
Defense
Linemen — Andrew Studebaker, junior, Wheaton; Adam Wolff, senior, North Dakota; Andre Bernardi, sophomore, North Greenville; Travis Carpenter, junior, Abilene Christian.
Linebackers — Charleston Hughes, senior, Northwood; Lateef Ferguson, junior, West Chester; Matt Lawless, senior, Mount St. Joseph.
Defensive backs — Robert Towns, senior, Harding; Fletcher Terrell, senior, Washburn; Steve Teeples, senior, Wisconsin-La Crosse; Kendall Ricketts, junior, Central Missouri.
Punter — Kevin Soflkiancs, junior, Baldwin-Wallace.
Third Team
Offense
Quarterback — Scott Eyster, senior, Delta State.
Running backs — Joique Bell, freshman, Wayne State; Lorenzo Perry, senior, Bryant.
Wide receivers — Joe Cline, junior, Alma; Dusty Hovorka, senior, Sioux Falls.
Tight end — Zac Herold, senior, Nebraska-Omaha.
Offensive linemen — Tony Burson, junior, Midwestern State; Rich Drushal, senior, Wooster; Ryan Pope, junior, Shepherd; Brandon Bennett, junior, Willamette; Brandon Barnes, junior, Grand Valley State.
Kicker — Dustin Strickler, sophomore, Missouri Western State.
All-purpose player — Anthony Merritt, senior, North Alabama.
Defense
Linemen — Ryan Kleppe, senior, Wisconsin-Whitewater; Adam Haas, senior, Cortland State; Maurice Baker, junior, C.W. Post; Ron Ellington, junior, Catawba.
Linebackers — Michael Eubanks, senior, Delta State; Jerrell Freeman, junior, Mary Hardin-Baylor; John Tackmann, senior, Winona State.
Defensive backs — Qunicy Skinner, junior, Arkansas Tech; Byron Westbrook, senior, Salisbury; Sherard Reynolds, sophomore, Valdosta State; Brandon Carr, junior, Grand Valley State.
Punter — Kevin Dodson, senior, Elizabeth City State.

FYI

Associated Press has released its Little All American Team, consisting of DII, III and NAIA players. There are 17 D III players who made either first, second or third teams

Please, we have read enough about the Mendel/Abels comparisons. Let's not start with the kickers. Aren't there more pressing matters to consider, like this weekend's playoff game!!!

Hey, PAC posters, where is the chatter? Big game this weekend between Waynesburg and Thiel. While there are no post-season implications here, winner could be in the mix for PAC title, or at least a share of it. I am sure picks by CC and others will be forthcoming