Quote from: wiz on December 30, 2014, 09:34:15 PM

Coach Davelaar was MIA.

The Facebook grapevine indicates he has some fun family business to attend to, no reason for concern there

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Quote from: sac on December 29, 2014, 09:56:28 PMReally big game tomorrow night vs Wooster.  First time since 1997 the Scots and Dutchmen meet on the floor.

AKA The AndersDY Nightmare Game.

Nightmare or dream? 

I've wanted to see them meet, but was hoping it'd be in March sometime and that I'd have a chance to be there. Of course, my in-game attendance has fallen to nil last year and this year (those darn babies, that's what having them does I guess) and I have not been following the board, but I did just notice the matchup for tonight and at least had to follow online. At Wooster, I would expect a tCOW victory, but looks like Hope is hanging at the half.

My goof, realist, I was trying to trim down the quote to not eat up a ton of space.

The 90' floor issue was definitely mixed in with the rest of that. (Interestingly, it was a perfectly acceptable site for the womens' title game in 1990, so much for equality. I also wonder if that might have created the first spark of an idea in the Hope administration for building a better facility on campus that had a regulation floor.) I seem to remember there being questions at the end of the regular season of whether Hope had had too easy a path through the conference that year. Of course Calvin was not too far removed from some strong teams and I seem to recall Kzoo being quite a handful the very next year so the conference couldn't have been complete fluff. The one flaw I recall being highlighted in the 1995 team was a lack of Sr leaders with only Duistermars being a Sr (or at least the only Sr with major contributions). The 1996 team brought a bit more Sr urgency when they put that run together.

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Quote from: sac on March 03, 2014, 01:27:38 PM
It has been a long time since Calvin played Wittenberg correct?

My memory says 1995.  Calvin lost at Witt in 1st round.  Same night the "team that shall not be mentioned" beat Hope.

I don't get it... why is Baldwin-Wallace the "team that shall not be mentioned"?

Ouch, right in the childhood... and might I mention: Booooo! 

Quote from: realist on March 03, 2014, 01:34:01 PM
BW was the 8th seed that beat a #1 seed Hope that had serious National Championship aspirations.  Just when Sac seems to be over it, someone brings it up again and sets him back months in his recovery.

With hindsight after that game, would the consensus have been that BW was much stiffer than a 1 vs 8 kind of game? The geography seemed to trump seeding in the tourney more at the time and it seemed that we learned Hope was an untested undefeated team (pretty down MIAA year, wasn't it?) playing a team with a mediocre record, but coming out of a much more rugged OAC.

For any who hadn't seen it, the good folks at D3Hoops have Hope penciled into the bracket pretty strongly:

Championship: Saturday, March 1.
Automatic bid: Calvin
At-large implications: Hope leading at-large candidate in Great Lakes. Calvin win made this a two-bid league.

Quote from: almcguirejr on March 01, 2014, 10:56:34 PM

Quote from: AndersDY on March 01, 2014, 10:48:36 PM
The progress of the game seemed particularly surprising given the points at which I checked the score today. My 3 peeks for information showed Hope up 13-6 early, then Hope down 40-31 with 9+ min left, and then finally an eye-popping 74-47 with about 3 min left. Based on those 3 data points, it appears that Calvin put up 34 points in about 6 min of the second half where Hope put up 34 points over about a 30 min stretch. I'm guessing the serious butt-whipping must have been taking place somewhere within the middle of the second half the way it looked.

Hope was down 40-31 with 16 minutes to go.  The "hay in the barn" moment of the day was after a Calvin steal, Austin Parks dribbled the ball past about 3 Hope defenders for an uncontested lay up with 7 minutes to go.

Ah, that makes the progress of the score a bit less shocking. The late score check was shocking because of the deficit, but also because of how fast that change occurred. That all seems a bit more linear if the time on my livestats was not updated properly and should have said 16 min remaining in the game.

With a new baby at home, I attended 0 games in person this year so my exposure was the first 2 TV games. With that little knowledge though, I still had to find out exactly what the heck happened today. Looking at stats, was it mainly Calvin with hotter shooting and a much improved ability to take care of the ball?

The progress of the game seemed particularly surprising given the points at which I checked the score today. My 3 peeks for information showed Hope up 13-6 early, then Hope down 40-31 with 9+ min left, and then finally an eye-popping 74-47 with about 3 min left. Based on those 3 data points, it appears that Calvin put up 34 points in about 6 min of the second half where Hope put up 34 points over about a 30 min stretch. I'm guessing the serious butt-whipping must have been taking place somewhere within the middle of the second half the way it looked.

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Quote from: hoopdreams on January 11, 2014, 06:03:04 PM
I'm sure someone knows this answer with no research needed...since Calvin opened their beautiful new arena (I do really like it), what is the record of the Rivalry on Calvin's campus?  It certainly seems like Hope has had tremendous success there

I think they said on the coverage this made a 6-3 Hope advantage at VanNoord, definitely a different story from how things were at Knollcrest.

Someone's math if fuzzy.

2009  Calvin 63  Hope 62
          Hope 69  Calvin 59  MIAA Championship game
2010  Hope 79  Calvin 76  Hall of Fame  Consolation
          Calvin 84  Hope 75
          Hope 78  Calvin 74  MIAA Championship game
2011  Hope 76  Calvin 70
2012  Hope 83  Calvin 70
2013  Calvin 75  Hope 49
          Calvin 77  Hope 57  MIAA Championship game
2014  Hope 71  Calvin 63

I come up with 6-4 against Calvin

All together I think Hope's played 19 games in Van Noord with an overall record of 12-7.   6-3 with wins against  Cornerstone, Wheaton, Carthage(2), Albion, Adrian.   Losses to Aquinas, Cornerstone and Wheaton.

Before the humbling results of last winter, Hope had a stretch of winning 7 of 8 at Van Noord.

Good for you Sac to go ahead and do the research rather than accept what you heard/read.  You must watch Jimmy Kimmel.

I don't watch Kimmel.  I actually don't watch much TV unless its sports or terrible gold miners.   

I was actually looking up Hope's total record at Van Noord because I'm naturally curious of those things and it came up at dinner (or maybe I imagined that).  I discovered the 6-3 graphic displayed during the game was indeed erroneous.

At least I must have heard the numbers they gave correctly so I got that part right. I was going off memory and did not fact check, though it did seem accurate from recent memory that we have a winning record there.

Of course, I recall during the broadcast they were giving the incorrect team the lead and had some fuzzy math regarding recent scoring runs so I'm not shocked their stats were not air-tight.

Quote from: hoopdreams on January 11, 2014, 06:03:04 PM
I'm sure someone knows this answer with no research needed...since Calvin opened their beautiful new arena (I do really like it), what is the record of the Rivalry on Calvin's campus?  It certainly seems like Hope has had tremendous success there

I think they said on the coverage this made a 6-3 Hope advantage at VanNoord, definitely a different story from how things were at Knollcrest.

Brittany Berry in NBA Jam mode, might be time for the Steph Curry treatment on D by Wheaton

Hanover apparently didn't get the memo about dress-code, no orange so you go home

Quote from: wiz on February 15, 2013, 12:47:02 PM
Live video stream of the Calvin/Hope women's game at DeVos Fieldhouse tomorrow.  Interesting!
http://hope.edu/live

Who are the announcers they got for that stream? They don't know how to pronounce "Verkaik" and find it surprising that many Holland Christian recruits end up at Calvin. Clearly well researched.

So this may be a futile attempt, but might anyone have 2 or 3 tickets for Saturday? I've had a busy winter and we haven't checked in for the faculty section enough times to get included for tickets. Before assuming I would have to watch on TV, I thought I should at least throw it out there.

While you can always try to best schedule to prepare yourself for the post-season, I don't know that this was an issue that stung this Hope team. As others pointed out, we do have a pair of games set up annually with the CCIW, which is a pretty good start (thought it is also dependent upon how strong Carthage or Wheaton are for that year). I didn't get the sense that Hope was unprepared for a strong battle-tested team like they got last night. They did come out focused and blew the game open for 5-8 minutes at the beginning. It simply seemed that some parts of the team were getting cold at the wrong time of the year.

The Adrian game was worrisome and apart from Snuggerud, there were portions of the team not performing in the past 2 weeks as well as they did during Hope's stronger parts of the year. If some other contributors were closer to the 'A' games we had seen from them at certain points during the season, Hope certainly had the pieces to win that game last night. (Heck, if they shoot 70% from the line, we're still here celebrating with no talk of OT's even.) Hope had a darn good team this year. As I assessed during the week, they did seem to lack a couple small factors that didn't quite match them up against 96/98/08 teams. In the tournament, you have to have a good team, be peaking at the right time, and get some good fortune. Another example of where if you only accomplish 1 out of 3 of those things, you're likely to lose to a strong team, as we saw last night.

That game was certainly worth the price of admission and I agree with IWU's coach that you wish a team didn't have to lose it. Normally I would want to see the winner of a game like that go as far as possible, but in my case I have other interests so Go Woo!! (though if that can't happen next week, then Go Titans from that point on).

Given the streak of beating #1's mentioned here prior to the game, I felt some irony creeping in as the Dew Crew brought out the "this is our house" cheer. Sure enough, IWU does it again on the favorite's home floor.

FTs definitely got us and I think we'll have some Jordan Zimmer nightmares similar to the images of Drayer or Veldhouse standing open for 3. Once the game was over, that last possession of regulation is definitely the flashback moment where we had the prime opportunity and did not end up with a quality shot.

Did we set a tourney record for personal fouls in that game? I won't say the officiating was slanted either way, I sure felt the IWU fans' pain on some of the calls against them too, but I believe someone wished for inconspicuous officials prior to the game - we definitely did not get that.