Quote from: Etchglow on March 14, 2025, 04:35:02 PM

Quote from: The Third Division on March 14, 2025, 01:45:37 PMAny bets how many scam division 4 cheeseburger universities UMHB plays this fall?

I don't know, any bets on how many absolutely braindead takes you'll make on Twitter while professing to be an unbiased D3 football news source?  Dude, go troll somewhere else.

Dude seems to want to be taken seriously but goes out of his way to take shots at one school.

Quote from: Mavchamp on February 28, 2025, 03:31:49 PMTexas A&M- Texarkana has announced they are going to start transitioning to D2 in time for the 2027 season.

This could possibly affect the four remaining in the ASC IMHO. 


https://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/2025/feb/27/am-texarkana-begins-ncaa-division-ii-transition/#:~:text=team%20in%202027.-,A%26M%2DTexarkana's%20NCAA%20Transition%3A%20Texas%20A%26M%20University%2DTexarkana%20has,membership%20by%20fall%20of%202027.

Pretty significant news coming out of Texarkana.  It has been rumored well over a decade....looks like it's official now.

They are currently in the NAIA competing in the Red River Conference.

Obviously the biggest question is WHAT CONFERENCE will they join?

Great American Conference?
Lone Star Conference?

Geographically it's a no-brainer that they would go to the GAC with almost all of the schools in the conference within 2-3 hours of Texarkana.

Would be some serious travel for them to go to the LSC.

Which leads to other questions.....

If they join the GAC.... that puts them at an odd numbers of schools...... which makes rumors of either Mary Hardin Baylor or ETBU from D3's collapsing ASC joining seem more real.

A&M- Texarkana and ETBU in Marshall are only about an hour and a half apart from one another.

Could be interesting!

I thought to move into a new division you had an invitation from a conference?

Quote from: Mavchamp on February 20, 2025, 05:52:13 PM

Quote from: TheChucker on February 20, 2025, 12:49:27 PMPer the EADA website (2022 data):

$4.5M - average "D3 with football" athletic department spend
$4.8M - average Texas "D3 with football" spend excluding Sul Ross

$6.9M - UMHB
$6.8M - Trinity
$5.6M - ETBU
$5.5M - Southwestern

$4.5M national average

$4.1M - Lyon
$4.0M - McMurray
$3.9M - TLU
$3.7M - Hardin Simmons
$3.6M - Hendrix
$3.3M - HPU
$3.0M - Austin
$3.0M - Centenary (pre-football data)

The bottom half is basically the new SCAC with spending below the national average. If I had to guess, this is how the SCAC will eventually play out. I'm a bit surprised on the HSU spend; they get a lot out of moderate spending.

ETBU is a wild card as they invest more heavily in athletics than the current SCAC schools. They do have very nice facilities for D3 IMO.

Trinity and Southwestern have already separated themselves voluntarily, UMHB involuntarily, and it probably stays that way.

That's really good info.  Very interesting.  But it's a kind of comparing apples to oranges a little. 

Those numbers alone don't explain that different schools offer not only a different number of sports...some more some less....but some offer sports that aren't common.

ETBU has hockey, bass fishing, gymnastics, sand volleyball.....  sports that aren't traditionally offered at many of the SCAC schools.

So yeah..... their budget is larger.....but it's being spread out over more sports.   It's not like difference in budget is solely being poured into "main sports" i.e..... football..basketball....baseball....softball. 

I can't imagine hockey being cheap.  Nor gymnastics. 

I am curious how those numbers are put together. UMHB doesn't have hockey but we do have A&T and Beach Volleyball but neither of those sports are NCAA sports so I wonder if that is or is not included. We also do have a Bass Fishing team but it is a club sport so I don't believe its funding is connection to athletics at all.

Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 16, 2025, 11:49:22 AM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2025, 09:35:08 AMI wonder about NIL's impact on D3.
I have no idea what NIL does to the Division and teams and conferences in D3.
My preference is no NIL in D3. There are other options for NIL in intercollegiate athletics.

Mine too, Ralph, but you know that if the Division tried this someone would file a lawsuit and win.

While the NCAA has its fault I sometimes do have sympathy for them since as you mentioned everyt ime they attempt to enact rules they are sued and lose. Someo of that is there fault but it feels like the NCAA's main role at this point is punching bag for people.

Quote from: jknezek on February 12, 2025, 08:05:46 PMOne fewer possible Texas opponent for the ASC remainder as NAIA NAU folded the football program:

https://footballscoop.com/news/naia-program-decides-to-fold-football-program-after-just-four-seasons

The problem is worse for ASC but it is also one fewer for SCAC as well, unless I missed one no one in the ASC or SCAC has released their schedule. Yes the problem is worse for the ASC but if the SCAC isn't doing round robin they are going to need a good number of games themselves.

Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 11, 2025, 04:06:09 PMSchreiner has announced a replacement HC, Keith Allen, to lead their football program.  According to a local media report, the original HC, Kenny Freschetta, stepped down for medical reasons (not confirmed by the school).

Allen has zero D3 experience, but spent eight years at The Kings Academy [FL], departing in 2021 to take an assistant position at Klein High School NE of Houston.  According to the release his career "includes impactful roles at institutions such as the University of Oklahoma, Northeast Louisiana University, Texas Christian University, Quincy University, San Jose State University, and Southwest Baptist University" and he is a graduate of Oklahoma and TCU.  His only head coaching role at the college level was a number of years at D2 Southwestern Baptist.  His final season there (2012, 3-8) was the last time he coached college football.

Credit to them for moving quickly, Coach Treschitta tweeted on Jan 2nd about a huge addition to the program so he was still there about a month ago. Does anyone know if they had named any other staff members to the team?

AJ Williams ended up at New Mexico State, for him and Dillan I wonder if that means preferred walk on or an actual scholarship.

https://x.com/AjWilli04/status/1878598190632718507

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on January 07, 2025, 11:07:25 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on January 07, 2025, 10:02:11 PM

Quote from: D3fanboy on January 07, 2025, 06:16:17 PMDon't think Mount is down?  Nearly every "expert" picked Mount to disappoint and picked teams such as Salisbury or CMU to beat them lol

Three of seven panelists picked Salisbury.  Nobody picked Mount Union to lose to CMU or JCU or JHU.  I'm sorry that this doesn't fit the narrative you're desperately trying to paint. 

I'll reiterate that on the surface, this current 5-year stretch isn't a heck of a lot different for Mount Union than let's say 2009-2013/14.  It sounds different in here mostly because you're comfortable criticizing and nitpicking the current HC in a way that you wouldn't dare nitpick the HC back then. 

Eh not sure that comp is all that similar. 2009 to 2014 Mount played in every Stagg Bowl and won in 2012, only 3 years from their 2008 win.

This 5 year run includes only 2 title game appearances, a semi finals loss and a second round loss but most importantly we're in the midst of biggest gap between titles since the run started in 1993. If we go back to 2019 we get another 2nd round loss (but it should have been a semi final loss... the committee botched that bracket)

They may have played in every Stagg Bowl but to use D3fanboy's logic who did you really beat?

In 2009, you beat Wesley in the semi's and you lost to UWW in the Stagg.
In 2010, Bethel was the semi-final opponent and you lost to UWW in the Stagg.
In 2011, you beat Wesley in the semi's and you lost to UWW in the Stagg.
In 2012, you did win it all but beat UMHB and St. Thomas neither of which had a won a Stagg Bowl at the time.
In 2013, you had very close games against Wesley in the quarters, NCC in the semi's and lost to UWW in the Stagg.
In 2014, you beat Wesley in the semi's and you lost to UWW in the Stagg.

That was a run 99% of D3 teams would love to have but if the measuring stick is having to beat Stagg Bowl worthy teams on the way to a National Championship then it wasn't much better.

Quote from: Purple13 on January 05, 2025, 11:52:49 PMTonight's attendance in the soccer stadium was 1,938 another failure by the NCAA I guess they'll never figure it out oh wait I almost forgot it's all about the MONEY it belongs back in Salem VA or Canton Ohio PERIOD!!!!

As a Texan I can't fight to keep it here but attendance in Canton was worse at 1,830. Perhaps next year it will be better especially if Mount Union gets back to it, of course attendance was better in Texas when UMHB was there too.

The Temple Daily Telegram so it is legit. Behind a paywall in Temple but for some reason not in Killeen (https://kdhnews.com/kdhpressbox/crusaders-move-into-offseason-after-quarterfinal-setback/article_75a8a8dc-bd03-11ef-8cf5-e7e6e2a7239b.html)

I am intrigued to see where he ends up since he does have a fairly wide experience in college and high school.

Quote from: Crubacker on December 18, 2024, 04:27:01 PMAnybody hear anything else about Padron not coming back?

This was in the local paper

Personnel change

The Crusaders will have a new offensive coordinator for the 2025 season after parting ways with Andy Padron on Monday.

Padron, a UMHB graduate and former Crusaders quarterback, was the offensive coordinator for three seasons — a stretch in which the program compiled a 27-10 record with two playoff appearances, including a trip to the semifinals in 2022.

Hampered by inconsistent play at the quarterback position and an offensive line that had trouble protecting the passer at times, the Crusaders averaged just 28.5 points and 336.4 yards per game this season. It was their lowest scoring output since 2001 and lowest yardage production since 2006.

Quote from: Etchglow on December 17, 2024, 06:39:37 PM

Quote from: Gray Fox on December 17, 2024, 05:57:07 PM

Quote from: Crubacker on December 17, 2024, 05:35:11 PMJeez, gonna start dropping like flies now.  This NIL crap and the transfer portal is going to ruin college sports.  D3 will be looked at as JV football------come out for a year and earn a chance to get on the Varsity(D1 or D2).  Really sad.  I would really like to know the graduation rate from schools that sponsor football(all levels)

But you could get D1 guys who are on the bench and want a chance to play.

But then they play one year at d3 and then move back up to d1 once they get some decent film haha. ETBU's QB is a prime example.

Prehaps but....Blake Jackson, Jase Hammack, Brandon Jordan, KJ Miller, Kyle King, Markeith Miller, Damian Davis. Some of them are recent some are not but all started somewhere else and ended up doing amazing things at UMHB. The road is going to be rocky but we have done fairly well for ourselves over the years in the transfer market.

Quote from: Gray Fox on December 17, 2024, 05:57:07 PM

Quote from: Crubacker on December 17, 2024, 05:35:11 PMJeez, gonna start dropping like flies now.  This NIL crap and the transfer portal is going to ruin college sports.  D3 will be looked at as JV football------come out for a year and earn a chance to get on the Varsity(D1 or D2).  Really sad.  I would really like to know the graduation rate from schools that sponsor football(all levels)

But you could get D1 guys who are on the bench and want a chance to play.

This is my thought, the portal is the new age and will give and take. Programs at all levels just have to hope they can add more talent then they lose in the offseason.

Obviously we have a couple of rounds to go but anxious to see what you guys make of a final poll if it happens.

I hope it doesn't take any inside sources to say that UMHB (and all of the Baptist 4) is considering any option at this point, I would be angry if they weren't. This whole time I have felt like people are accusing the ASC and its members of not doing anything and perhaps I am naive but I can't believe that is possible. Now you can be mad at them for allowing it to get to this point but at this point, I can't think they have not looked under every rock and feel what they are doing is best for themselves.