let me ammend the first sentence, in my writing I completely left out GC from the teams that makes me feel better. It is really good to see GC and CUA playing good. GOOD LUCK to all

Good Luck to all ODAC teams, and especially CUA. It is good to see a team that has been struggling come out so strong in 06. It gives me hope that EH will turn it around fast and the ODAC will be as strong as ever with not just 2 strong teams as it has been in the past few years, but strong from top to bottom.

Predictions

BC 35
FU 13

CUA   24
McD   10

EH     21
NCW 17

RMC  14
Frost 28

WL   13
Sew  20

GC   31
AU   10


I do believe that EH will pull this one out. As someone noted earlier NCW has some coaching/player ties with EH, which should make the game very interesting. EH is over due for a win. Monty will have the guys ready. It is time for the entire offense to step it up a notch and put a win under their belt. This is the weekend for EH. Good Luck to all other ODAC schools as I beleive it should be a good weekend for most.

Quote from: muchacho on September 06, 2006, 12:26:45 PM
All this facilities talk got me thinking...Time to rank the ODAC according to their football facilities.

Field
1. Guilford - Maybe the best natural grass field I've seen. Whatever they did to it was amazing, and it felt like you were walking on a carpet.
2. W&L - They have the money to afford some groundskeepers, and it shows.
3.Catholic - Field Turf is way of the future. It will be coming to most of these schools in some time. Catholic was last on this list before this year's upgrade.
4. HSC -
5. BC -
6. E&H -
7. RMC -

Stands
1. E&H - Emory has great stands for its home team, and atleast makes an attempt for the visitors. It also has good views for those people who choose not to sit down.
2. W&L - Outdated, but atleast it feels like a stadium. It would be nice if they made some effort to put something in on the visitor's side.
3. RMC - Decent stands for the visitors, and they take care of the home side. Nice press box.
4. BC - They also do decently with the visitor's stands, and the home side is not great but decent.
5. HSC - They have the natural bowl which you play in, which is nice, but not quite on the McDaniel level. Home stands are not up to par, and the visitor's stands are crammed up against the sideline giving the away team no room.
6. Catholic - Completely unspectacular stands which add no charm to the event. A press box that needs to be torn down, and no visiting stands.
7. GC - This is judging before the renovations, since I haven't been down there to check them out. You might as well have lined people up behind the teams to watch games here, and asked them to bring folding chairs. Scaffolding instead of a press box was awful.

Locker Rooms -
1. CUA - Gives decent space with an actual locker room, and they are located near the field.
2. BC - Not great in quality, but they have good locker space and benches, while not located too far from the field.
3. HSC - Their new field house is nice, but the lockers are still small and too far from the field.
4. E&H - Instead of one nice locker room, you get several small ones. The pool is a nice touch.
5. RMC - The Jackets give the visitors a small square room to change in, which is really nothing special. The walk to the field isn't too bad.
6. W&L - The Gennies have an easy trip to the field, but make the visitors change in an empty room, and then walk a mile to the field. Its scenic, but not too convenient.
7. GC - Changing in the old gym is awful, and you have to figure out a maze and a few staircases to find the showers.

Thats a pretty good run down. when did Catholic put down the artificial grass? That stuff is great. I would move Emory up a bit, but I played on BC, HSC, and WL fields toward the middle and end of the year and in some rainy weather didnt help the fields either. But Emory starts with a nice filed every year, but it seems in the past Emory has had a lot of rain which makes for a muddy field. Yes, GC has some amazing grass. Yeah I think EH should dump those visting stands and just put out some lawn chairs...lol.  I remember walking the lonely mile from the WL locker room getting looked at and heckled by snoddy WL fans. I think I fell 3-4 times on that gravel concrete bridge...lol

But overall not a bad ranking of facilities

let me change the first sentence to "in the last 5 years we havent had the runningback"

Quote from: frenjr on September 05, 2006, 05:16:45 PM

Quote from: ehcfball on September 05, 2006, 02:34:55 PM

Now I never said Dewey was a genious if you will go back and look at it. I said Monty was a defensive genious. I just stated that when Dewey was in control of the offense we were doing great things. I know that he had his favorites, but we were putting up lots of points on the scoreboard. I cant say anything about Dewey in the 90's, but I had no problems with him when I played. I just cant see why Monty changed a primarily passing offense with a QB with tremendous confidence to a running style offense. As you stated, the offensive line pass blocked well but struggled to run block. If it were me, I would pass the ball more which would open up the run and make the draw a great play when the opposing team pulled men out of the box to coverage. This would also open the screen out of the backfield. But, I am not the coach.

But yes, I know that Monty has the team stronger than ever. The Wasps will work harder than ever and it will eventually pay off. And, Marshall Doss is one heck of a player. He has the attitude to do whatever he wants to on that field, if he can stay on that field. This means staying healthy and out of trouble.

why change the pass happy offense under Lusk?
EHC's record under Lusk from 2001-2004  was HOW MANY GAMES UNDER .500? EHC won 11 ODAC titles with a 75/35 run to pass ratio in all but seasons under Gary Collier in the 80's and Shannon Johnson in 2000.

If you will look back, every team that won the ODAC since 1994 either had an 1000 yard rusher or lead the conference in total rushing. Emory rolled out JD Davis, Oliver Jordan, Andy Stanley, David Schammel, Ernest Cheatem, ect ect. Catholic's first year in the league was able to win the title largely thanks to the efforts of Anthony Notarfrascatero (I am probably brutalizing his name, but he was a hell of a power back), and Bridgewater has been dominant behind a terrific mixture of great running backs and passing. Every "pretender to the throne" since the mid 90's (Randolph Macon back in my day, HSC over the last couple years) has been a predominantly pass oriented offense that failed them at big moments. EHC revirted to the pass happy system because they quit recruiting quality offensive and defensive linemen and tailbacks (thank you President Morris for cutting financial aid) and the pass offense was the only way they were able to remain competitive, but it destroyed the core ethic of the team, and Coach Montgomery was left to pick up the pieces.  All the traditional D3 powers function with offenses where the run sets up the pass, even at schools with great passing traditions like Mount Union. If EHC wants to return to greatness, they may not need to line up in the I and run  35 times a game, but they need to be able to run the ball in key situations.  The offensive line currently being better at pass blocking is not a justification for being more dependant on the passing game. Coach Wellenhoffer's job is to make those guys better RUN and PASS blockers. I think Josh is a good guy, but I (and several other ex players in the endzone) were shocked by how poor the line exhibited basic fundamentals like a proper stance, coming off the ball low, and drive blocking.

There is a reason you hear the phrase "throw for show, run for dough."

I am not saying that when a good running back is there that we still need to pass so much. But in the last 5-6 years we havent had a good running back that could carry the ball 25-30 times a game. Yes i do believe that we need to be able to run the ball more. But, when you look back on the 2003 and 2004 seasons it wasnt the lack of offense that lost games, it was scoring 45 and allowing 55. I dont know much about seasons prior to 2002, but in 02 we had Shannon, a running QB, Dan Hammonds and Satterfield. Neither of the two running backs showed an ability to gain 3+ per carry, which is needed to have a succesful running game. But, in 2003 Todd Woods put unbelievable numbers up with Brennan Stewart and Jerad Jackson catching his passes. Both Stewart and Jackson are still there. So why wouldnt you play to your strengths in order to better your weakness. When a team is primarily a passing team defenses most of the time dont put as many in the box in order to cover the good receivers. Then you should run the ball when there is not so much pressure in the box. I am by no means saying that Emory should be a primarily passing team but when you are putting up offensive numbers and Monty's defense is playing so well it is hard to argue that things wouldnt be better with the offense of two years ago.

Dewey Lusk an offensive genius? Are you kidding me? I played under Lusk for 4 years, and while he was many things, offensive genius is far from it. Come on, this is the same guy who lined up Nathan Tuck against Fish (an All American DB from Davidson, can't remember the 1st name) and kept forcing Tuck the ball... no motion, nothing to keep him away from Fish one on one. It was the most stupid, pigheaded waste of a talented offensive player I ever saw. Lusk constantly elevated players who were "his boys" or Gamms and buried guys who were much better players. Remember, under this clown Todd Mounts sat the bench while WES ROBBINS, yes, WES ROBBINS started for a year. The same guy kept Richie Rodes, who any DB that played for EHC in the late 90's that Richie was one of the toughest guys to cover on the team, and yet we saw no hands Henri Fitzgerald start over him for 2 years. Lusk not being part of the program is the BEST CHANGE that came with Coach Montgomery coming to EHC.

as for EHC on Saturday.  Defensively they look much better in the front seven. Their scheme generated pressure, and they looked physically stronger at the point of attack. The lack of true athletes still plagues them, especially at defensive end and secondary. Their secondary can't cover man to man, and with the Marietta QB scrambling, they just did not have much of a chance. The entire team looks physically stronger, so it seems like Coach Montogomery's weight program did work. They exhibited much more heart than I saw at any point last year.

Offensively, it was good to see the new wide receivers contribute. Stewart and Jackson did not seem to do much, but other kids stepped up. Woods still is not any kind of a threat on the run, and appears heavier than last year. He was a little shakey early on and got better. The line pass blocked well, but struggled again in the run blocking. Their stances were just awful looking...like a midget league team. #64 at center looked decent, but the right side of the line was brutal throughout. If #74 is their best option at RT, they are in a world of trouble. His navel ate grass all day while "attempting" to run block, but I don't think he touched a soul. Gillespe looked great on his touchdown run, but he really struggled the rest of the day and did not seem aggressive attacking the holes that were there. Caleb Moore ran harder, but did not break any big runs.

I see improvement, but with Adam Dowe in the house, it just reminded me of how far removed this team is from the 87-2000 glory days.
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Now I never said Dewey was a genious if you will go back and look at it. I said Monty was a defensive genious. I just stated that when Dewey was in control of the offense we were doing great things. I know that he had his favorites, but we were putting up lots of points on the scoreboard. I cant say anything about Dewey in the 90's, but I had no problems with him when I played. I just cant see why Monty changed a primarily passing offense with a QB with tremendous confidence to a running style offense. As you stated, the offensive line pass blocked well but struggled to run block. If it were me, I would pass the ball more which would open up the run and make the draw a great play when the opposing team pulled men out of the box to coverage. This would also open the screen out of the backfield. But, I am not the coach.

But yes, I know that Monty has the team stronger than ever. The Wasps will work harder than ever and it will eventually pay off. And, Marshall Doss is one heck of a player. He has the attitude to do whatever he wants to on that field, if he can stay on that field. This means staying healthy and out of trouble.

Quote from: kirasdad on September 02, 2006, 06:20:59 AM

Quote from: ehcfball on September 01, 2006, 11:17:53 PM
whats up guys...i am new to this...but as life long player and fan of the game I love opportunities to discuss the game with men such as yourselves.


I would like to say that EHC is my team, although they have been down the last couple of years under Coach Wacker and new coach Don Montgomery. The Wasps will sting the ODAC again.

I do have some questions that will probably be answered in tomorrows opener v. Marrietta.

1. Why does Montgomery play the same 5 linemen the entire game at Marrietta when they obviosly needed a rotation? Not to say that they were not good, but they were tired and the team needed something different against a defense with so much speed.

2. In game 2 at home I saw 3 different linemen, all of which stayed in the game the entire time. Why doesnt Monty get a rotation going for those guys?

3. Why in the world would he leave a lineman in the game when he is getting killed when he had guys that had started in previous games sitting on the bench. He had a decent starting 5 for Marrietta, then throughout the season all of the 1st 5 were benched. He had one guy in there, that couldnt have weighed 200lbs soakin wet, gettin creamed by a huge defensive lineman when he has a couple 300 pounders that can play sittin the bench. I dont understand his offensive line scheme.

But, tomorrow will tell the tale. Will Monty have a big strong line or one that looks like a couple of giants with midget friends?

I suspect Coach Monty has his reasons.  I don't doubt any move he makes, his record as a DC speaks for itself.  Most likely had depth issues and questions last year with players who did not "get it" yet, but this is just speculation.  Year 2 should be better with more of Monty's Recruits and another year of his conditioning under their belts.  The man was way ahead of his time as a strenght and conditioning coach at Mount Union.

Yeah I know what you mean. I know Coach Montgomery and have played for him. I know his defensive mind is rivaled by none. But, I do question his offense. When Dewey was Offensive Coordinator the offense was in the national top 10 in total offense, but the deffense was probably in the last 10. Montgomery is a defensive genious but a rookie on the offensive side. He played as an offensive lineman and a small one he was. I know that he was a great player in his day and that he understands the offense. I just dont think you should fix something that isnt broken. But i believe in due time he will take the wasps back to the top. I just hate it when people say that things will get better when he gets his people in there. Well what about the guys that are there now. They can win games in the ODAC.

whats up guys...i am new to this...but as life long player and fan of the game I love opportunities to discuss the game with men such as yourselves.


I would like to say that EHC is my team, although they have been down the last couple of years under Coach Wacker and new coach Don Montgomery. The Wasps will sting the ODAC again.

I do have some questions that will probably be answered in tomorrows opener v. Marrietta.

1. Why does Montgomery play the same 5 linemen the entire game at Marrietta when they obviosly needed a rotation? Not to say that they were not good, but they were tired and the team needed something different against a defense with so much speed.

2. In game 2 at home I saw 3 different linemen, all of which stayed in the game the entire time. Why doesnt Monty get a rotation going for those guys?

3. Why in the world would he leave a lineman in the game when he is getting killed when he had guys that had started in previous games sitting on the bench. He had a decent starting 5 for Marrietta, then throughout the season all of the 1st 5 were benched. He had one guy in there, that couldnt have weighed 200lbs soakin wet, gettin creamed by a huge defensive lineman when he has a couple 300 pounders that can play sittin the bench. I dont understand his offensive line scheme.

But, tomorrow will tell the tale. Will Monty have a big strong line or one that looks like a couple of giants with midget friends?