Mtnman,

Just out of curiousity who will you be rooting for when UPS and Whitman play?  Are you a die hard Logger fan or are you gonna flip over to cheer on your favorite coach in his new Whitman missionary position?  You seem like a fairly passionate fan do you have any preference or is it not really a priority for you

Quote from: bbaddict on November 06, 2008, 03:25:20 PM
OK LogShow, I'm on board with that.  We cheer for the NWC teams at least until the conference games start.  That gives the NWC more clout when it comes to playoff time.  Besides, who wants to beat losers?  No sport in that -- we'll all win in the preseason and then come back to beat each other up?  Deal?

I'm definitely on board with that!  No use in having a bunch of NWC teams limp into conference play with a beat up record.  It's always best for atleast a few of us to have a great preseason, hopefully beating a few of the "power" conference teams in the process.  That lets the voters know right off the bat what our teams are capable of.  I'd love for two to get in the tournament, but I have a feeling we would play each other right away .

Quote from: Pio20 on October 31, 2008, 03:30:06 AM

Quote from: NWCer on October 30, 2008, 04:44:13 PM

Quote from: Pio20 on October 30, 2008, 04:00:47 PM
In other news...http://www.lcpioneers.com/sports/mbkb/2008-09/roster
The LC bball roster is up. Can't really judge anything from last year...it is a very different team this year. We'll have to wait and see.

Thanks Pio20....

Interesting, the names on the rosters don't equal the amount of guys in the photo, and on neither did I see the transfer they got from Western Oregon a couple years back - Allen.

Yeah a couple players quit. Allen is among them.

Any idea why guys are jumping ship? 

Quote from: LogShow on October 31, 2008, 02:58:56 AM
So I think UPS plays Eastern Washington in their exhibition...any other schools have a D1 oppnent?

I would love for the Logs to win, but its gonna take a lot of magic..but hey they knock off UC Riverside a few years ago...McVey was even on the front page of this very website after that win 8)

LC almost beat portland state last year(it might have been 2 years ago i cant remember)!  Its always fun when a small school beats a D1.  Eastern is definitely beatable in my opinion, especially now that Stuckey has moved on to the NBA.  The Loggers will need to be on their A game, but I would love for them to make a good game out of it...maybe they can make the D3hoops front page again!

Quote from: mtnman on October 30, 2008, 06:05:06 PM
logshock

yes.  i imagine it would take a special student athlete, a dedicated one, to make it in a program, which from what i remember had the highest winnng % in the country at one point.  i guess winning comes wth a price tag - and if a player doesn't want to pay it, he wont last.

boo hoo.  at least im retired adn have a hour or two to get on here now - whats your excuse?  is it intermission between intremural games?

what a baby.  my guess is we or i wont hear from you after bridglands seniors graduate this year ever again.  i am with you tho, its not fun to follow a losing program. guess we can thank bridgland for bringing people, and an intrameral all star to this board.

boo hoo.

This is getting pretty old.  I am by no means sensative, I like to make fun of people and debate/argue/banter about our teams just as much as the next guy, but the "Boo hoo's" and over the top childish attacks towards Logshock are pretty sad.  You seem like a serious Logger fan that has good information about the program and its great to have you in on our discussions.  Now how about acting like the retiree that you claim to be and posting something other than lame attempts at insulting people....and then we can go out after a game and grab an adult beverage at a local Tacoma bar of your choosing!(figured id take a page out of NWCer's book )

Greg,

I was wondering that exact same thing, I have no idea what the answer is for certain, but I would assume that a coach couldn't vote for their own team.  With that said, if the coaches do vote for thier own team Bridgeland would definitely vote for Whitman as #1. 

"UPSoundlogs you nailed my point right on the head thank you for taking the words out of my brain and putting them on paper!"
-Logshock

No Problem, I do what I can do, when I can do it.

Additionally, I think im the only idiot around here that hasn't figured out how to use the quote boxes. after many botched attempts i always end up cutting and pasting with quotatioin marks....anyone care to enlighten me?  This is admittedly embarrassing, but what can I say I'm a little slow.

NWCer,

You crack me up, you are always so polite and complimentary until someone (aka bbaddict) rubs you the wrong way then you let them have it...followed by something like, "I will meet you for a cold adult beverage before a game if you calm down a bit  ....  I know your football team is on fire, so I can understand your excitement!" It's hilarious.  Along with Oxybob from the SCIAC and Oldschool from the WIAC board your posts are my favorite.  Keep up the good stuff, I'm trying to get to 200 posts simply so i can throw some karma your way .

mtman and logshock,

I'm enjoying the bridgeland debate!  Both of you have great inside info, but obviously on very opposite ends of the opinion spectrum.

Without going into too much detail ill put my two sense in on the matter.  Long story short I think I'm right in the middle of your points of view, but leaning towards Logshock(fyi, I am by no means a disgruntled player )  Bridgeland was a win at all costs coach to the EXTREME, he didnt care who he offended or if his players liked him.  He just had to win, it was like a crazed obsession.  He certainly won alot but he also left many MANY pissed of people and players in his wake.  I kind of look at it as a "take it for what it is" situation.  We had lots of great experiences, very succesful teams, and an extrememly tight nit group of players because bridgeland was the way he was.  Some people would say it wasnt worth it, i personally wouldn't trade it.

"I gave you a karmic reset because I felt you'd put that stuff behind you."
-PC

Holy cow!  I've even gotten back into Pat's good graces!   "I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD!!!(Leo, Titanic, front of the boat scene)"

Lucky Day, Thanks Pat!

As a side note, my karma is back to 0!!!  I feel like a new man!!!  I have made quite the comeback since being down to an all time low of -33.  I guess staying out of arguments with the "Hall of Famers" has probably helped me out some 8).  Thanks to anyone who has helped my journey back to zero.

"I think SoundLogs is just saying that UPS has lots of talent and hasn't put it to use yet...the seniors came in with lots of hype and haven't lived up to it."
-Logshow

"I think what UPSoundlogs is saying is that it would be a real disappointment if the loggers don't win a conference title this year because guys like Foster and Williams are in their senior year."
-Logshock

Thank you for helping to clarify my statements fellas, that is exactly what i meant.  There are some fantastic seniors on this UPS squad that just haven't lived up to what I thought they would do so far.  I would argue that they(Foster, Williams, Krauel) have more talent than McVey, Curtiss,Walker, etc. that won 3 straight NWC titles and got to the elite 8 in 2006.  I've been expecting big things from this current group for the last 2 years and they have been really good, just not dominant.  I'd love for them to take the next step and really dominate.  It sounds like they will have their work cut out for them, if what Rat says is true WW is gonna be VERY tough once again.  (I gotta admit, im very impressed with how WW reloads every single year )

Logshock,
Welcome to the clan, It's always nice to build upon the group of Logger fans on this board.  It sounds like you may be pretty close to the team, I'm sure you'll have some good info for us along the way!

Hello Everybody,

I decided to dust off the old keyboard for another hoops season in the NWC.  I dont have too much to contribute this early on, I have heard some talk of a couple solid freshman for UPS but overall I dont have much insider info. 

What i do know is that I strongly agree with the other Logger fans on this board, we have tons of talented returners hopefully this year they will grow a pair, do what is expected of them, and win the conference title.  I know they're more than capable of it talent wise and with their best players being seniors this year hopefully the leadership is in place to take care of business.  I've been expecting big things the last 2 years, but this year anything less than a NWC championship will be a real dissapointment....GO LOGGERS!!!

As with everyone else I'm interested to see what Bridgeland can put together over there in Walla Walla, I'm sure they will remain the wipping boys of the conference for a year or two, but after he has had a couple years to recruit im guessing the Missionairies will be pretty tough.  It took him 2 years to pull UPS out of the gutter and in his 3rd year make them a champion, any guesses on how long it will take at Whitman?  I'd say when his first batch of recruits are sophmores the rest of the league better start watching out.

I'm looking forward to a fun year!

And as a side note, I just noticed I've been getting a serious boost in my "Karma"!!! Many thanks to whoever is helping me out...I can feel my life getting more positive each day! 

"Could be fatigue from a lack of depth, could be other teams are playing better or simply getting "up" for the WW/UPS games."

-nwhoops

I agree with this statement from nwhoops.  I think teams definitely get up to play the top teams in the league, especially with UPS being ranked in the top 10 again this year.  It just gives the oppostion that much more motivation to come out and play a great game.

Also, I can't remember seeing so much parity in the NWC as we have this year.  All the teams are really good, I think it all depends on who comes out and plays harder and who can catch some lucky breaks over the course of a game.  I know UPS is the only "ranked" team right now, but if they are indeed a top 15 team in the nation, then we have a VERY tough conference(cause the Logs have already dropped 3 games).  Of the teams I've watched play so far, they are all really good.  Even PLU who is playing .500 ball in league right now looked great.  I dont think there are any "easy outs" this year (except maybe the Whitman "whipping boys" Missionaries). 

On the bright side it makes for a much more interesting race, rather than having 2-3 teams dominate everyone else we have competetive games each night.  On the negative side, it makes those of us at the top pretty squeamish night in and night out.  There's certainly no guarantees.  I look forward to seeing how everthing plays out as we come down to the end of league play. 

Good luck to UPS on their Eastern WA road swing this weekend.  The WW game is a MUST WIN!