Fun fact, over two years between posts!  Time flies when you're having fun I guess.

Hopefully the Pioneers get it done tonight, this way I don't have to complain about the officials!

Let's Go Pioneers!!!

Quote from: UWRF on January 08, 2011, 08:09:53 PM
Last time Falcons won at WW... 2004. I think we won something that year?

And you got beat in the Conference Semis by us and in Karges, ending your season.  Hope that isn't what you're shooting for this year.

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Quote from: tomt4525 on November 12, 2010, 06:37:21 PM
Jenkins just plays football and basketball.  He's a heck of an athlete that could easily do jumping events for track and field as well.  With his size, strength and jumping ability, he is such a mismatch for cornerbacks.  As a Point grad who got to see plenty of Jenkins athletic exploits, I would like to thank Oshkosh coaches for not allowing him to play both sports and steering him to Point.

Was Van Dellen the rigid one in this?  What an error if he was.   

My source says that it was Van Dellen who didn't want him playing both.

UW-Platteville releases their schedule here

Quote from: UWBadgers on July 21, 2010, 05:56:26 PM

Quote from: Pioneer Hoops Fan on July 21, 2010, 11:09:05 AM

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on July 20, 2010, 10:18:33 AM
Who played for WHITEWATER Pioneer Hoops?

The new floor in Williams Center is complete.  Photos may be seen here....http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2010/3/22/MBBALL_0322101637.aspx?path=wbball

Negri, Free, Edmunds, and I think Lucas Burns...could be wrong on that one.

Kori Vernon also played, along with someone else who I'm not quite sure who he was.  They had 6 guys both days and that is about all I could tell you.

Did Oshkosh have Marsh if Whitewater had Vernon?

No, and Marsh didn't play with Oshkosh last year at this tournament.  It is called "College Division", but essentially I think its a Open Mens division.

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on July 20, 2010, 10:18:33 AM
Who played for WHITEWATER Pioneer Hoops?

The new floor in Williams Center is complete.  Photos may be seen here....http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2010/3/22/MBBALL_0322101637.aspx?path=wbball

Negri, Free, Edmunds, and I think Lucas Burns...could be wrong on that one.

Kori Vernon also played, along with someone else who I'm not quite sure who he was.  They had 6 guys both days and that is about all I could tell you.

Quote from: Just Bill on July 15, 2010, 12:07:08 PM

Quote from: Pioneer Hoops Fan on July 15, 2010, 10:08:50 AM
For you WIAC followers looking for something to do this weekend, UW-Platteville, UW-Whitewater, UW-Oshkosh, & UW-River Falls will be participating in the Jimmy V Classic in Wisconsin Dells on Saturday and Sunday.

Schedule Info

I took the liberty of summarizing the schedule for WIAC fans.  I don't totally get the schedule because it doesn't appear as if all teams play the same number of pool games, but here it is anyway. All games at Just A Game Fieldhouse.

July 17
12:00 pm - Platteville vs. Whitewater
1:00 pm - Oshkosh vs. River Falls
3:00 pm - Platteville vs. Swingers
3:00 pm - Whitewater vs. Oshkosh
5:00 pm - River Falls vs. Swingers
5:00 pm - Platteville vs. Oshkosh

July 18
11:00 am - #4 Seed vs. #5 Seed
1:00 pm - #4/#5 Winner vs. #1 Seed
1:00 pm - #3 Seed vs. #2 Seed
3:00 pm - Championship Game

Whitewater wins the championship over Oshkosh.  Always a nice change of pace for officiating going from a U13 to a WIAC mens game.

For you WIAC followers looking for something to do this weekend, UW-Platteville, UW-Whitewater, UW-Oshkosh, & UW-River Falls will be participating in the Jimmy V Classic in Wisconsin Dells on Saturday and Sunday.

Schedule Info

Quote from: wcbsas on April 09, 2010, 08:22:09 AM

Quote from: Old School.... (Tom Doebler) on April 09, 2010, 01:38:53 AM
Jenkins made 1st team all conference as a receiver.

He made the American Football Coaches Association's All-American team as a punter.

He's a stud receiver.  It looks like he led the league in receptions, touchdowns and receiving yards.  His receiving yards per game was 50 more than anyone else (121 to 73).

I'm not going to pretend I know what it takes to prepare for the NFL, the combine or pro days, but I'm sure it's not as hard for a punter as it is for running back, quarterback or receiver, for that matter.

Whatever happens, happens.  I'd love to see Jenkins in a basketball uniform. 

Glad to hear Semling isn't on the final list of candidates for the GB job.  If he got it, I'd be mad, but I'd wish him the best of luck without hesitation.

How does Jenkins compare as a receiver to the Brandes kid from UWW?

Again, going by my buddies word, he compares Jenkins to a Derek Stanley type.  He was drafted 7th round and played for the Rams.  He says he's an absolute stud, and I don't think he was talking about his punting ability.

Also, rumor has it that Oshkosh could've had Jenkins.  Wanted to go there but the hiccup came from Van Dellen.  He wouldn't allow him to play both sports....Advantage, Stevens Point.

Not trying to get Stevens Point people off the cloud they've been riding the past few weeks....maybe I do 

But in all honesty, I don't think anybody can be or should be surprised if he doesn't play hoops next year.  I personally would be shocked if he did play, and if he does, good luck to them except two games all year.

I also know the site will go nuts when it comes time for him to join the team after football, and he doesn't because he has that opportunity in front of him, and I would hope they would wish him luck because I would do that as well.  Playing hoops or not, he's a great athlete and I'm sure a great young man.

Quote from: wcbsas on April 08, 2010, 10:20:21 AM

Quote from: Pioneer Hoops Fan on April 08, 2010, 09:53:01 AM
Semling would be doubling his salary.  Link.  If you type in his name, you'll see what the salary was for last year.  Wisconsin State Journal published this a few weeks ago.  Work for the state, your salary is viewable to the public. 

Don't forget he gets a sizeable amount of money for all the camps he runs.

Would be the same at UW-GB too though.  I think the report initially said that Salary would be approx $130,000 but with camps and other things factored in it would be near $200,000

Quote from: wcbsas on April 08, 2010, 10:23:52 AM

Quote from: Pioneer Hoops Fan on April 08, 2010, 09:53:01 AM
Am I the only one in the Minority that thinks that Jenkins will not play basketball next year, especially if has a shot at the NFL?  I think if he has a good year again in Football, that if he plays basketball he is taking away from his chances.  I know you can use the Joe Werner example, but that was a basketball player who was being brought in as an experiment.  Jenkins is a football player, and he is going to be expected to be in top Football shape come time if he's invited to the Combine or even if he's doing tryouts for teams.  Basketball is going to get in the way of that.

Jenkins is arguably UWSP's best returning player on the basketball team, certainly their most athletic.  Losing him would be a huge blow.

If I'm Semling or Randall or whomever I would do whatever I could to accomodate Jenkins on the basketball team. 

Having said that ... there are D1 college players who do nothing between January and March but prepare for the combine and football workouts.  For a D3 level player I would think he would have to be ultra-committed to get through the tiny wondow of opportunity.

I agree 100% with you on this.  Basketball side you need to make him happy, but you can't sacrifice what would be best for the team.  It is not unusual for D3 guys get invited to the Combine, and certainly have NFL teams invite you for a tryout.  I know there have been guys in the WIAC that have gotten invited in the past.  But speaking with my friend, he said that Jenkins is the best player (arguable of course) in the league.  He feels he'll get an invite.  Hard to put a basketball season and team on hold to chase a dream, but if you can make some money on it, that is tough to turn down as well.

Quote from: wcbsas on April 08, 2010, 08:36:00 AM
I'm sure Semling and Randall are still seeing recruits and bringing them in for visits.  UWSP is probably the easiest WIAC school to recruit to ... best fan support, highest attendance, best history/legacy.

I think a bigger issue about getting recruits will be that UWSP returns 4 senior starters plus the Tillema brothers and Jerrel Harris.  Immediate playing time is probably at a premium.

Am I the only one in the Minority that thinks that Jenkins will not play basketball next year, especially if has a shot at the NFL?  I think if he has a good year again in Football, that if he plays basketball he is taking away from his chances.  I know you can use the Joe Werner example, but that was a basketball player who was being brought in as an experiment.  Jenkins is a football player, and he is going to be expected to be in top Football shape come time if he's invited to the Combine or even if he's doing tryouts for teams.  Basketball is going to get in the way of that.

Quote from: wcbsas on April 07, 2010, 12:40:54 PM
Again the cynical person in me thinks that the Randall hiring was orchestrated to put a successor on staff for a year or two behind Semling.

Certainly the prospect of going back-to-back is appealing but the window of opportunity to get a D1 job is so small that if it were there, and Semling wanted to do it, that he would be silly to turn it down.

Specific to a "big" raise ... all of that is a matter of perspective ... the reason Todd K is leaving is because of money.  I'm certain UWGB will pay better than UWSP!

Semling would be doubling his salary.  Link.  If you type in his name, you'll see what the salary was for last year.  Wisconsin State Journal published this a few weeks ago.  Work for the state, your salary is viewable to the public. 

Quote from: wcbsas on March 31, 2010, 08:10:06 AM
Why would someone take a UWGB job that by all right's is a step down from the Toledo job?

Because Toledo is in Ohio and Green Bay is in Wisconsin.  He awfully familiar with the recruits in this area, plus being from the area (state),  it would probably be a good, comfortable, place to start.

One story here

Another story here

Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 26, 2010, 01:22:40 PM

Quote from: Old School.... (Tom Doebler) on March 26, 2010, 11:27:03 AM

Quote from: wcbsas on March 26, 2010, 08:02:46 AM
4. Jenkins at times was UWSP's best player on the court.  I think playing two sports (that conflict somewhat) is easier when you are the 2nd or 3rd guy.  But Jenkins is arguably the best returning player on this team, in someways their most important player and to not have him available until mid-November will hurt chemistry, leadership and unity.  Plus the injury factor.

I'm not sure why you or anyone else, for that matter, would think this hurts chemistry, leadership or unity.  None of that seemed to be a factor last year.  The only factor is injury and if the football team goes deep into the playoffs.  He's not a rotten egg and I don't think anyone thinks he's "better" than anyone else because he comes in after football season and just starts playing.  He played in the 2nd game of the season and came off the bench for a couple of games before, deservedly, getting a starting spot.  He's a star football player as well.  Had he just been a "role" player on the football team, I'd hope he would forego football and just play basketball.  But, he's an important part of the football team as well and i'td be unfair to ask him to do one or the other, especially in his senior year.

I watched several Pointers games during their tournament run this month, and a couple of times it was brought up by broadcasters that Jenkins is a standout punter and wide receiver on the UWSP football team and that he might have an NFL future as a punter. I don't know how valid a speculation that is; I noticed that Jenkins didn't make any of the four levels of the d3football.com All-America team last season, and one would think that any D3 athlete who has a chance of playing at the highest level would make the All-America team in his particular sport. (I noticed that he did make the AFCA D3 All-America team as a punter, though.) Then again, given Jenkins' undeniable athletic ability, perhaps it would be the means to get him a free-agent invite to an NFL camp regardless of his omission from the d3football.com All-America team.

I remember similar speculation about Carthage's Rob Garnes in the early part of the last decade. He was an outstanding small forward for Carthage (one of a tiny handful of players in CCIW basketball history who made the All-CCIW first team all four seasons in their careers), and a pretty good wide receiver as well (second-team All-CCIW as a freshman, first-team All-CCIW as a sophomore). He eventually gave up football to focus upon basketball, but there was talk in CCIW circles that even though he was a much more dominant player on the hardwood than on the gridiron, his ceiling as an athlete was higher in football. After all, how many 6'4 wide receivers have hops like that, or that kind of superb hand-eye coordination? In other words, the success level a multi-sport athlete has in one sport over another in college doesn't necessarily correspond to the sport in which he has the best potential future as a pro.

At any rate, this speculation during the broadcasts makes me wonder if Jenkins doesn't have a potential future in pro football equal to or greater than a potential future in pro basketball. Since I have never seen him play football, I'm completely agnostic on the issue. I simply mention it because, as I said, it came up more than once during the broadcasts of the various UWSP tournament games.

I have a friend that has scouted and coached against him.  I asked him if he has what it takes to be invited to Combine, he said absolutely.  Asked if he was same level as Garcon, said no but would probably be more like a Derek Stanley who was with the Rams the past two years.