Fisher fans are funny complaining about the officials when there were more fouls called on Naz (16) than Fisher (12) and both teams shot 17 FT's. Maybe you should complain about how Fisher went 9-17 from the FT line or how Newman and Gettings played horribly (combined 4-18 from field, 0-4 from 3, 13 pts, 11rbs, 7 assists, 6 of those being from Gettings).

What's up with the assistant coach running the IC huddle? Anyone else notice that during the game? He was the one talking up the players and drawing up out of bounds plays 65% of the time.

And another win over Ithaca in the e-8 tourney for Nazareth...

Conference honors are in and McAdam is POY..what a surprise. Rossi as ROY and Kornaker as COY.

First Team
Phil Barera, Ithaca         Junior    Forward
Mark Blazak, Hartwick          Sophomore    Guard
Corey McAdam, Nazareth    Senior    Guard
Matt Newman, St. John Fisher    Senior    Guard
Anthony Terry, RIT    Junior    Guard


Second Team    
Jordan Gettings, St. John Fisher    Sophomore    Guard
Brendan Harder, RIT    Sophomore    Center
Jordan Marcus, Ithaca    Sophomore    Guard
Simon Smith, Stevens    Sophomore    Forward
Mike Wopperer, St. John Fisher    Senior    Center


Honorable Mention
Chris Cruz-Rivas, Ithaca; Mike Cutri, Stevens; Pat Goodman, Utica; George Greco, Stevens; James Patterson, Utica; Kyle Phillips, Hartwick; Sean Rossi, Ithaca


Any surprises?

FROMAFAR, yeah Naz didn't use their bench during their run. But had they then I don't think they would've made it to overtime. Their bench averages about 8ppg, 7rpg, and in the RIT game contributed 2pts, 3 rebounds. An upperclassmen who could provide help off the bench, Miranda, is nowhere to be found this season after missing last yr with an injury (he was averaging 5pts, 6rpg prior to injury).

Quote from: FISHERMAN on February 10, 2010, 02:59:23 PM
Haaaaaters....come out and plaaaaay

In the beginning of the season I wrote a post that proclaimed that Fisher was "clearly the class of the E8". The posts immediately began to stream-in proclaiming my comment to be misinformed and over exagerated. Most of these responses, I might add, came from Fisher fans. My point was simple. Both the Fisher program and 2009/10 roster were elite. Fisher has won the E8 five (5) of the last seven (7) league titles and had almost an .800 winning percentage over that period. Anybody who does not believe that Fisher is the E8 team of the decade should be admitted to an insane asylum. I said the team this year was going to make waves in NCAA's and win the league. I based this on the fact that they had a talented roster, the best recruiting class in the league by far and unquestionably the best two coaches (Kornaker and Mahannna). Obviously, many people disagreed. I hope the haters, non-believers and those lacking the spine to make a bold prediction have realized the errors in their thinking. Eventhough it is easy to be right when you publicly support a top-level program like Fisher, it still feels good.

I cannot wait to smack Naz again. Guarantee we win by a larger margin than the last meeting.


VIVA LA CARDS!!!!

"The best recruiting class in the league by far"..according to whom? Is there a d-3 basketball recruiting website similar to Rivals that I'm missing? If you look at some of the stats of IC, SJFC and NAZs newcomers (Freshmen/transfers) they contribute 33.1ppg and 12.7 rpg at IC. 24.8 and 12.7 and Fisher and 27 and 16.2 at NAZ. So Fishers newcomers contribute less than the newcomers at IC and NAZ.

AND they have not just the best, but the TWO BEST coaches in the league! Mahanna is a better coach than McVean, Mullins, Broderick, Hurley, Conley (well, maybe...) and whoever the guys at 'Wick, Elmira, Alfred are..c'mon man.

Now, concerning the RIT-Naz game last night. Naz got tired it looked like. Plus, RIT just outhustled and outworked them. It seemed as though RIT got every 50-50 ball and tons of huge offensive boards down the stretch. I believe RIT finished with 17 offensive boards - that's what won that game.

It will be interesting to see who fills out seeds 2-4 for that E-8 Tourney.

Regarding the Naz @ Fisher game...

Really impressed w/Gettings. Yeah, he doesn't have a midrange or 3pt shot, but he can get in the lane and finish in traffic (even around bigs). He played well - just gotta cut down on those 6 turnovers.

Not so impressed w/Newman. Yeah, he's solid, but nothing special. He can't really shoot. It seemed every time he got in the lane he came to a jump stop, didn't shoot, looked around, pivoted a few times, and then kicked it out. Never was forcing help or creating shots for anyone else. He had 13 pts, and 6 of those came in the last 2-3 minutes from the line (gotta give him credit though for hitting the FTs down the stretch).

McAdam played great despite an off shooting night (10-22). He had to take a lot more 3s than he normally would (2-9...simple math, take away his 3pt shooting and he's 8-13 from the field - which is great.). I think he needs more offensive help around him. Scaffidi had a great game (17pts, 7-15 from field) but he needs Corletta (12 pts, 5-12) and Stephens (5pts, 2-10) to score more.

Fisher bench - 20 pts, 11rbs. Naz bench - 4 pts 5rbs.

Fisher definitely is sitting pretty for that #1 seed now - just got to stay focused and not have any slip-ups!

How did Will Cornett get player of the week honors? No offense to him, but 5ppg, 3rpg, 4apg and 1spg do not deserve POW honors at all.

Chase Predictions :

UR over Geneseo
Brockport over RWC
Naz over RIT
Fisher of Keuka

Looks like Battle for East Ave will happen a little earlier than expected.

Quote from: FROMAFAR on January 06, 2010, 01:59:43 PM
Go NAZ relax, no hate here for any of these teams..... If you watched the game Stevens was Clearly  the better team.  Every now and then the game is not decided by the players, and that was one... I wish I could say the same for the beating RIT took from your guys last night...but I can't. I give Mc Adams all the credit in the world, he has a great feel for waht the refs will allow and he adjusts appropriately. I wish RIT had someone like that. I want to see NAZ beat Fischer and Ithaca, then they will be Elite. Right now I don't consider any of these Teams to be Elite. The one, if any that sweeps the Top 3 I will then consider Elite.... But what do I know    

I think instead of giving McAdam credit for adjusting to the refs we should think about how stupid it is for these teams to pressure him all game and allow him to shoot 10-15 free throws/game (in the last 3 games he has shot 10,15,10 fts, respectively). A majority of those free throws come off of non-shooting situations when he's getting fouled close to half court. Back off of him and quit giving him free points! The handchecks are fouls, so they will be called and Broderick will let the refs hear it if they don't call em.

Also, defenders keep bailing him out in the lane too often. You rarely see him get in the lane, come to a jump stop, and go right up. He always throws 2-3 fakes in there before going up for a shot and ppl keep fouling him! Yeah, it's partially him being smart and having the best bball IQ in the conference, but part of it also has to deal with the lack of discipline by his defenders.

As for the Stevens-Naz game - I think the last 30 seconds were just plain stupid on Stevens' part. Why didn't they call a timeout to set something up for that last possession? Then, why did they allow McAdam to get the ball on the inbounds, and basically give them a 5 on 3 situation as both defenders on McAdam played terrible defense.

Now Bombers, I don't think that Go Naz was asking you to "bow down" to Naz, I think he was just saying they need to get some credit. Their recent E-8 wins are great wins and they should get some credit. This upcoming weekend will be a tough trip for them and will certainly test their youth and inexperience. We must also remember that this team that has gone under .500 4 of the last 5 seasons has more postseason wins than Ithaca in the last few years, including the Conference Tourney, I believe...correct me if I'm wrong.

One final note before weekend predictions - I was impressed w/Harder from RIT. Kid is a workhorse and will continue to improve as he is only a sophomore. I'm a big fan of him.


Weekend predictions...

Friday
IC over Naz...Naz just can't win there. But it will be a close one.

Utica over Fisher...not so sure about either one of these teams as of now, but I think UC squeezes it out.

Hartwick over Alfred...

Saturday
Fisher over IC...after a tough game friay night, IC has to make the drive to East Ave and play a tough game. I don't see them pulling it out.


Nazareth over Utica...Naz took care of them pretty easily earlier this season, but this one will be closer.

Sunday
Stevens over Hartwick

This post was way too long. Roll Tide!

Thanks, fisherman, for the response on Mahanna. He is still young and has plenty of time to grow as a coach.

And what's up with Brandon Witte? Why isn't he getting any PT???

Quote from: FISHERMAN on December 06, 2009, 12:38:28 AM
HAHAHAHA....Fisher smacked RIT today. Ignore any previous posts saying otherwise. The score did not do the game justice. Fisher took the lead early in the first and was never threatened afterwards. They are an extremely well-coached team and have a lot of promising youngsters. They are unquestionably the class of the elite 8. Asst. coach Mahanna is surely someone to keep on your radars. Truly a rising star. RIT gave a good effort and I would not be surprised to see them upset a team in the future. Once the younger Cardinals relax and start finishing around the hoop and the team as a whole guards the three slightly better, its all over.

Just curious, why do you say that about Coach Mahanna??

Not really basketball related - but what does Jordan's tattoo say on his left shoulder??

Quote from: Go Naz on November 18, 2009, 11:25:35 AM
Hello all, new to the boards this year.  Had my first chance to see Naz last night as they lost to Roberts at the Blue Cross.  Naz did not look sharp and was handled rather easily by Roberts for most of the game.  A run made Roberts lead 5 with about 9 minutes left but that was as close as Naz would get.  A few notes:

-Naz shot 4 of 26 from 3 for the game.  This should improve, a number of the shots missed were good looks. 

-Naz was hurt in the paint.  Right now the have no presence in the paint.  They lost a lot of size last year and it showed.  While their guards did a nice job rebounding the ball, they had a difficult time guarding the post players from Roberts. 

-Jason Corletta looked good.  He has improved and should become a major scoring threat this year.  Look for him to make up for some of  the poinst lost through graduation

-Naz is YOUNG.  They have 11 guys on the roster and only 5 are returning players.  Mcadam is the only senior and there are no juniors.  They young guys have a lot of talent and I think several of them, especially Tyshun Stephens have bright futures.  They will however go through the ups and downs that come with most freshmen.

Overall, I was not happy with the Naz performance but also not too concerned this early in the year.  They will not see many other teams with that kind of size in the E-8.  Mcadam gives them a chance to win every night and the young guys will come along.  I feel like they could be a slow starter this year but finish strong once their youth matures a little bit. 

RWC is also a tough opener because they have been practicing for a month more than NCAA teams and have had 5 games prior to the Naz game. They are in the flow, coach has rotations going, everyone is used to each other's games and such...that is also quite an advantage.

Quote from: sjfcards on November 07, 2009, 06:22:53 PM
I'm suprised Fisher did not schedule a scrimmage this year. Typically they do play one, but I guess not this year.

I know they had at least one vs. Medaille from Buffalo. Although I do not know how it went. Anyone??

As for Fisher's big guy from Frontier - he is real good. He will make an immediate impact.

Meanwhile, down East Ave, I think we all know that Corey McAdam will continue to put up big numbers and maybe get a triple double or 2. But who will he be getting those assists to? Some younger guys need to step up and produce. Naz beat Western Ontario a week or so ago in an exhibition, the box score is linked below..

http://nazathletics.com/custompages/mbball/2009-10/exhibitn.htm