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#1
Quote from: hscathletics on January 16, 2014, 04:38:51 PM
Forgot about these:
2009-10 team beat NCAA Tournament participating Eastern Mennonite 80-68 at HSC, a team that went to the Elite 8.
That same year H-SC beat Randolph-Macon, R-MC went to the Final Four that year.

2008-09 team swept eventual ODAC Champion Virginia Wesleyan.

Again, good wins.  Do you play to win those games or big boy ones in March.
#2
7 years ago ago and a different coach.
#3
Those are good wins, but unfortunately you don't hang banners for wins in January ....


Quote from: hscathletics on January 16, 2014, 04:31:49 PM
Quote from: algernon on January 16, 2014, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: Maroons07 on January 16, 2014, 02:46:54 PM
Watched some of the H-SC - VWC game last night. Both teams have a lot of talent.

For all the talent H-SC has had the past few years, I cant seem to recall any really big wins, especially at home.  They have not made an ODAC final and sometime and lost on their home court to Cabrini.

Your recall seems somewhat limited.  HSC was 2-0 last year against ODAC champ Randolph-Macon, winning at home by 10 and on the road by 19, and they also got a win on the road against NCAA tournament participant Wesley. The loss to Cabrini was to a team that finished the year ranked #13 in the country.

This year, they've beaten #20 Mary Washington at home.
Also won 79-63 at Randolph last year, and they made the NCAA Tournament.
In 2011-12, beat Randolph-Macon 79-71 at HSC and they went to the NCAA Tournament.
And the 2011 squad beat Virginia Wesleyan at HSC, who went to the Sweet 16 that year it looks like.
#4
Watched some of the H-SC - VWC game last night. Both teams have a lot of talent.

For all the talent H-SC has had the past few years, I cant seem to recall any really big wins, especially at home.  They have not made an ODAC final and sometime and lost on their home court to Cabrini.
#5
Got to see RC play a couple of weeks ago.  They are much improved.  They will get there.


Quote from: Seatfiller on January 16, 2014, 02:40:40 PM
Lynchburg beat Noke 82-73, Noke was up the entire game until the 6 minute mark.  Roanoke's defense is pretty horrible, but Lynchburg played pretty good.  Were 0-5 in the conference  :'( :'(
#6
Also, this is the fan base that I witnessed as a student at RC yell at AJ Dowell about transferring.   Things I cannot repeat on this board.  And no, it was not the student section, it was grown men seated in the "expensive" seats if you know what I mean.




Quote from: Maroons07 on November 15, 2013, 03:07:29 PM

Algernon -- If you read my post, I was not questioning Cam not playing.  I even went as far as to say its no one's business.  The question was asked on the board why he was not on the roster.  No one answered.   My point was that when stuff happens you and other H-SC fans are the first ones to make false accusations and criticize other programs.   See any post concerning VWC players (ie. posts following the game you guys gagged at home last February against them), RMC's way of ticketing, W&L admissions, etc., etc.  I was not making any judgement on the program or the player, just narrow minded, kool-aid drinking  fans like yourself.   

Quote from: algernon on November 15, 2013, 10:57:29 AM
Cam has played all 4 semesters that he attended HSC prior to this one.

The Maroon guy who posts on this board might think before he posts about crickets and such a little more often. 

The reality about HSC, academics, and athletics is that academics come first.  Not that HSC is perfect, but let's be clear about this particular situation:  That Cam Anderson is NOT playing this fall semester is a real testament to the reality that Coach Vick is more concerned about Cam as a person than he is about Cam as a basketball player.  He wants to see Cam graduate!  Cam is eligible even now to participate in NCAA athletics, but his academic standing at the present time is sufficiently precarious that he's been told that needs to focus on his grades this semester, rather than spending his time on the basketball court.  Hopefully, he'll do what he needs to do and return to be part of the team.  This is a good example of how winning in DIII athletics is secondary to the importance of academics and the educational mission.
#7

Algernon -- If you read my post, I was not questioning Cam not playing.  I even went as far as to say its no one's business.  The question was asked on the board why he was not on the roster.  No one answered.   My point was that when stuff happens you and other H-SC fans are the first ones to make false accusations and criticize other programs.   See any post concerning VWC players (ie. posts following the game you guys gagged at home last February against them), RMC's way of ticketing, W&L admissions, etc., etc.  I was not making any judgement on the program or the player, just narrow minded, kool-aid drinking  fans like yourself.   

Quote from: algernon on November 15, 2013, 10:57:29 AM
Cam has played all 4 semesters that he attended HSC prior to this one.

The Maroon guy who posts on this board might think before he posts about crickets and such a little more often. 

The reality about HSC, academics, and athletics is that academics come first.  Not that HSC is perfect, but let's be clear about this particular situation:  That Cam Anderson is NOT playing this fall semester is a real testament to the reality that Coach Vick is more concerned about Cam as a person than he is about Cam as a basketball player.  He wants to see Cam graduate!  Cam is eligible even now to participate in NCAA athletics, but his academic standing at the present time is sufficiently precarious that he's been told that needs to focus on his grades this semester, rather than spending his time on the basketball court.  Hopefully, he'll do what he needs to do and return to be part of the team.  This is a good example of how winning in DIII athletics is secondary to the importance of academics and the educational mission.
#8
Yes.  not directed at you.  Sorry about that.   :)

Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 14, 2013, 04:06:31 PM
"Crickets when it concerns the goings on in Farmville" ? I asked a question as to what happened. Based on your response I assume you don't know. I don't know if he has missed a semester or not and I'm not judging, just curious about why he is not on the team. As far as what happens at other schools, I could care less, so I really don't understand your statement. I guess it applies to other HSC fans, not sure.
#9
If I'm correct, this is not the first time Anderson has missed a semester during his brief career there.   While its really no-one's business to as why he is not playing, I find it funny that H-SC fans are the first to speculate and give their opinion on other program's/school's academic and ethical standards but are crickets when it concerns the goings on in Farmville.

Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 12, 2013, 09:15:01 AM
What happened with Cam Anderson ?
#10
No reason to get so defensive. I was merely referencing the headline in the press release announcing the schedule.   I originally thought saying it was ramped up was an overstatement but now that I think of it, with no junior bible colleges or NAIA schools on there it actually might be an understatement.    Either way, I'm sure when March roles around the fan base will be comparing this schedule to that of an ACC double-round robin schedule of the 1980s. 

#11
Not sure how you consider teams with the following records really "ramping up" the schedule.

Washington College 4-21
Carnegie Mellon 6-19
W&J 9-18
Baruch 17-11 ( in a bad league)
Mary Washington 14-13
NC Wesleyan 16-11
#12
Quote from: Michael Herbert on March 07, 2013, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: marlin faithful on March 06, 2013, 03:46:00 PM
The best job in VA is hands down CNU. State school with D1 facilities and in the 757 area and close to richmond and n.va for recruiting purposes. Yes vwc has traditionally been known to be easier to get into but every program gets a few kids in that others were not able to get in. CNU got a kid in around 5 years ago that VWC wasn't able to get in and i know that VWC got in a couple of kids that RMC was not able to get in. And not saying any names but HSC has a kid on their current roster that was under a 2.0 in hs and below a 760 SAT so dont try and put them in their own category. Also HSC is able to give out the Davis Fellows scholarship which covers all tuition for 4 years. They give out 1 of these each year to a basketball player. Imagine if every ODAC school had 1 full scholarship to give out every year. Say what you want but each school has it perks and each coach is finding its niche and using that to their advantage and that is why the ODAC has become such a strong conference. Good Luck Marlins and Yellow Jackets this weekend. I will be in the "Fish Tank" to support my marlins this weekend.

As someone who works at the College and had a direct relationship to the nominees for the Davis Fellowship, I'll say that you're so far from being right on this.  The Davis Fellowship hasn't even been awarded since 2009.  A current senior is the last person to receive the Davis Fellowship...a baseball player who has played in only one game this season with one AB.  To give you a little more information on this young man, he's a Head Resident Advisor, near the top of his class and he's a Truman Scholar (http://www.truman.gov/news).  The Davis Fellows from the beginning are (without names because what's it to you?):
2004 - kid from FL who played club soccer
2005 - non athlete from VA
2006 - lacrosse player from Richmond
2007 - football player from Richmond who didn't really play and ended up playing baseball his senior season
2008 - non athlete from VA
2009 - baseball player from VA who hasn't really played a whole lot

These guys listed are the only Davis Fellows as the Davis family decided back in 2010 that they weren't going to continue with the scholarship.  As you can see, there aren't any basketball players who were a Davis Fellow.  As for the basketball players, I can assure you that no one on the roster came in below a 2.0 or ANYWHERE NEAR a 760. 

Keep on trying to pull down the Tigers.  Get your facts straight, too.

The only thing pulling down the Tigers is the fact that their two biggest rivals are at the very least going to be hanging Sweet 16 banners in their gyms, while the Tigers have not played on Sunday of the ODAC Tournament since 2007.   
#13
Quote from: algernon on March 03, 2013, 09:29:10 AM
Greg Lewis had a great game last night, with 13 points and 7 rebounds, and Tiger fans will be happy to see him return next year as a junior.  Leon Hargrove had a great game and will also be back for 2 more years.  HSC will bring back almost everyone who got lots of playing time last night (seniors accounted for only 50 of the 200 minutes played), so the future is bright, even though we'll miss the contributions of Harrison George, Fletcher Lumpkin, Patrick Corrigan, Alex Potopov, and Randall Ward, each of whom had a solid career. 

Without a doubt, Tiger fans will greatly miss watching the play of All-American Harrison George, who is probably the most complete player that Hampden-Sydney has put on the floor in the past 25 years.  He was brilliant so many times over his career, and he had another stellar performance last night.  Against a very tough opponent, Harrison had 25 points on 8 for 14 shooting, to go with 6 rebounds, 3 assists, and 5 steals.  His was a fabulous career by any standard, with 1793 points, 738 rebounds, 216 assists, and 184 steals in 106 games.

Harrison is one of an outstanding set of current seniors that Dee Vick recruited during his first year as coach at HSC.  Harrison, Fletcher, Patrick, Randall, and Alex joined a Tiger team that was only 14-14 in the year that they were recruited, a team that remained 13-13 in their freshman year.  The Tigers have steadily improved since then!  This year's seniors improved to 17-10 in their sophomore year ... and then finished 19-8 as juniors, almost doing well enough to get themselves into the NCAA tournament ... and now the Tigers have gone 23-5 this year, finishing as ODAC regular-season co-champs, with a #16 national ranking.  This was absolutely a blowout year for the Tigers and, without any question, the best year the Tigers have had since 2003-2004, when the HSC team led by Monroe and Randall went 25-5 and lost in the final seconds of the NCAA 2nd round on that just-too-long shot at F&M.

Over the past 5 years, Coach Vick has brought HSC basketball back to where the Tigers were 9 years ago:  Hampden-Sydney is once again a nationally ranked team that is playing an NCAA tournament game in front of a packed and very loud crowd at Fleet Gymnasium.

While George's numbers speak of how good of an individual player he was, the fact of the matter is that while he was getting those numbers, H-SC's two biggest rivals (VWC & RMC) continued to put up ODAC Championship, NCAA Tournament and Final Four banners in their respective gyms.  To each their own on what is more impressive ....
#14
Can't compare with last year.   Cabrini lost a first-team all-american guard and VWC lost Vaughan.  Different year, different teams.
#15
Tough to compare who beat who and when, but with the likes of Washington College, Huntingdon, Piedmont (quit the season) and Marywood on your schedule, saying Cabrini is the best team H-SC has played this year is really not that profound of a statement. 



Quote from: algernon on March 03, 2013, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: DeWayneCarter on March 03, 2013, 10:29:10 AM
Quote from: algernon on March 03, 2013, 08:37:16 AM
Actually, the Tigers had fewer turnovers than Cabrini and hit 2/3rds of their free throws, which isn't bad. The general feeling among HSC fans was that Cabrini is the best team the Tigers have seen this season, certainly as good or better than Virginia Wesleyan.  The Cavaliers are strong and fast and have multiple weapons.  Aaron-Moss was the best guard I have seen on an opponent's team since the Tigers faced Horace Jenkins at William Patterson in the 2001 tournament.  He's fast, and rebounds and passes well ... and felt nearly unstoppable at times last night, ending up with 16 points, 13 rebounds, and 6 assists.  This is pretty much the same Cabrini team that lost the national championship to UW-Whitewater by 3 points last year, and it will not be at all surprising to see Cabrini back in Salem for the Elite Eight in 3 weeks.

Idk about that one, VWC beat Cabrini by 37 this year

Yes, but the Marlins only beat Roanoke at the Batten Center by 6 points a week after that November VWC/Cabrini game, and yet Roanoke wouldn't stay within 30 points of the Cabrini team we saw last night. 

Last night, Cabrini was at least as impressive as the Marlins' team we saw at Fleet a couple of weeks ago, and Walton-Moss is definitely scarier than Woodmore or Astorga (as good as they are).  The November game you're referring to was against a different Cabrini team, one that did not include Walton-Moss, who was last year's D3 Rookie of the Year on a team that played in the national championship game.