What about Justin Beaver for UW-Whitewater, are there any rumblings about him with NFL scouts?  Is there any desire on his part to go pro?

Well, I guess the tribe has spoken, I will put my torch out.

Quote from: smedindy on December 31, 2007, 01:22:27 AM

Quote from: CardsWr13 on December 30, 2007, 06:02:09 PM
I would not say that the NFL gets it right all the time.  You have examples such as Kurt Warner out there, and the bottom line is that the NFL can not get to everybody.   

QB may be the one position the NFL misses some players on, but you only have 2-3 per team. Besides, the NFL didn't miss on Warner, since he did play in the league after an apprenticeship. The NFL didn't forget him, unlike MLB or the NBA or the NHL where you're shunted off and you may never get back.

I agree.  Kicker and D-Line are two other positions missed, just because they are very hard to evaluate.  There are limited number of kickers they end up having to go somewhere CFL, Af2, Arena.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 31, 2007, 12:42:40 AM

Quote from: CardsWr13 on December 31, 2007, 12:04:48 AM

Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2007, 06:26:54 PM
Enough plugging your site already.  You've done it up and down every football board here.  If you want to advertise talk to Pat and get his (very reasonable) rates.

Why does it bother you that we are offering something to players to help them further their football career.  Actually, we were fortunate enough to receive a phone call two days ago, from a parent of a graduating dIII player explaining how happy he was to have seen our post here on the DIII message boards because our site was giving his son another outlet to further his career.  Being a former DIII player I understand the struggle it takes to get into the professinal leagues(whether I was good enough or not, references on my success are available through DIII football.com).  I'm sorry if it bothers you that I'm trying to help my former and future colleagues.   

CardsWr13,

As I read the Terms of Service, your posting serial messages on multiple boards with your ".com" web site constitutes a violation.

QuoteWelcome to the D3sports.com message board. Post up your opinions about Division III sports here. Please, no commercial posts and no flaming. We will remove posts when necessary.

I agree with Ron.  Buy an ad, and support this web site.  A well-produced advertisement that outlines what you are selling will look much better to the prospective athletes, their coaches and their parents than your trolling these boards with your 700 member "dot-com" web site.

There are some real horror stories about "All-star games" that any serious prospective player will uncover doing the simplest research.

Click here.

I hope that your venture is successful as an outlet for D-3 players to continue playing.  I think that you can improve your solicitation effort, tho'.

Ralph Turner,
I do not know who you are or why you are so upset at our site.  I'm not sure if the "700 member" things is a shot at us.  Our user level is pretty good since we only signed our agreement with the Af2 at the end of October.  I'm sure if you asked Pat how many registered users he had after two months the results would not vary all that much.  I don't know if you know but we have an exclusive deal with the Af2.  I know there are other sites out there that try to take advantage of players rip them off.  We don't even charge players.  Most of the sites that rip players off are not backed by major football organizations.  As far as supporting this site, I think Pat Coleman has done an incredible job of putting D3football.com together and it's an incredible site.  I know that some of Pat's goals and dreams for D3football.com is to help D3football players, and that's what I'm trying to do here.  I'm not at liberty to discuss in detail, but we have offered to support the D3football.com site in a significant financial way.  I'm not trying to abuse the rules on these message boards, but rather trying to offer a friendly neighbor suggestion to athletes.  We offer athletes the ability to post information about themselves and find out information on combines and tryouts that they can attend.  If you have some genuine concerns about our site, I would love to address them either by email, phone, or message board.  As I was saying before, the Af2 is a great entry point for the dIII players      

Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 30, 2007, 06:26:54 PM
Enough plugging your site already.  You've done it up and down every football board here.  If you want to advertise talk to Pat and get his (very reasonable) rates.

Why does it bother you that we are offering something to players to help them further their football career.  Actually, we were fortunate enough to receive a phone call two days ago, from a parent of a graduating dIII player explaining how happy he was to have seen our post here on the DIII message boards because our site was giving his son another outlet to further his career.  Being a former DIII player I understand the struggle it takes to get into the professinal leagues(whether I was good enough or not, references on my success are available through DIII football.com).  I'm sorry if it bothers you that I'm trying to help my former and future colleagues.   

I would not say that the NFL gets it right all the time.  You have examples such as Kurt Warner out there, and the bottom line is that the NFL can not get to everybody.   Mainly because DIII games are not broadcasted except for the championship.   Unless you put up ungodly stats the nfl at first might not look at you.  That's why organizations such as the Af2 are important.  Even though most people feel the Af2 is not a big league, it's a start.  I think the total is 65 players from this past AF2 season have been signed to Arena Football 1 contracts.  Af2 can be a great stepping stone for the d3 athlete.  The Af2 is using us to help find them players.
www.beyondsportsnetwork.com

Wow. look what Beyondsports and the AF2 have created

http://www.af2.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3525&ATCLID=1301025&SPID=1590&ISWIDE=1

Wow look what the Af2 is doing.
http://www.af2.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3525&ATCLID=1301025&SPID=1590&ISWIDE=1

The team that would leave the ODAC in my opinion would be CUA.

THE ODAC made sense in 1999 when we joined, but looking at it now a better fit would be the Centennial. 
-The Centennial would cut down on the long commutes to games.  CUA to EH 630-7 hrs CUA to Guilford 5.5-6 hours. 

-CUA's financial commitment is also way off from schools like BC.   Even though some might not admit it, the rise of the BC Eagles has a lot to do with admission standards as well as the financial aid packages that BC is able to offer.   They do have good coaching, but the bottom line in DIII football is who you can get in, how cheap you can make it.  Schools in Centennial compare better to CUA. 

-Also CUA only uses the ODAC for football, it has no ties to other sports.  I think a better place for CUA and Shennandoah would be the Centennial.  This might make it too many teams, but the competition would be pretty even.

WOW HSC-EHC-RMC-BC
IT's going to be a great finish.
I have a couple of things for the discussion board

1.  HSC should be weary of the trap game coming up this week at CUA.
CUA is not that far off the path and with two weeks to prepare, it also being CUA's homecoming, this weekned should shape up to be an interesting game.

HSC does have some things going for them
1.  I don't know if CUA can stop HSC's Offense
2.  Can CUA not turn the ball over as they have in this year's two loses.
3.  CUA needs to run the ball, I don't know when CUA will realize you can't throw the ball exclusively to win in the ODAC.
4.  My former coach Marty Favret takes personal pride in beating CUA
With all that said I think CUA has a better shot then most people think

2.  Trivia Question
When was the last time that a RMC-HSC end of year rivalry game determined the ODAC Champion?

The ODAC is shaping up to be a toss up.
I feel HSC is in the driver's seat with wins over BC and GC
I was shocked to see the RMC vs WL score.
I saw RMC play CUA a couple of weeks ago.  I felt RMC defense was turnover opportunistic, even with that said they really had to bear down to stop CUA at the end of the game despite 6 or who knows how many INT's by CUA.  The only knock on CUA, and this hurts coming from a former Card, is that they do not run the ball.  You can't win just by throwing, even a former WR will admit that.  This weekend's match up with WL should be interesting.  As far as I can tell this year scores and previous matchups mean nothing.
HSC 16 vs JHU 17
HSC 54 vs. Gettysburg 7
Gettysburg 41 vs JHU 10
RMC 18 vs. JHU 9
Who knows? Could be a fun 5 weeks.