Quote from: tmerton on November 13, 2007, 01:02:32 AM

Message to redbulldog - You're talking to SJU fans, not the team.  No one on the team is underestimating UofR, even if we are.   We're not talking SCIAC coaches here.  Read The Sweet Season again.  Or not.

We all realize the calibre and class of both the team and of course Coach John Gagliardi. I also understand that no real championship calibre team takes anyone or anything for granted. Redlands certainly does not. Fans can talk, that is what makes it fun before a game. I am sure SJU fans and Redlands fans all wish they could be on the field Saturday. Sadly, all we can do is talk and then watch.

BTW-Coach Maynard of Redlands is a class act all the way as are most of the SCIAC head coaches. I am sure your comment about SCIAC coaches was meant as a way to have you tell us how great Coach John is.  Just a lousy comment about coaches you have no clue about. (not sure about the jackass comment either, I read it five times. I guess it is me)

Quote from: scandihoovian on November 12, 2007, 10:37:11 PM
Congrats to Redlands on their playoff berth - I am sure they'll represent the SCIAC well.  I am still struggling to understand why my support for the Tigers went unrewarded 

thanks Scandi, Can't comment on the Tigers other than they still almost pulled it off.  Their performances of just good enough to win every week came up short in the end. With 9 seconds left , I said here they go again, then of course .....deafening screams from the Redlands faithfull.

I hope the Johnnies keep looking ahead to their next round after dismissing Redlands as being soft. I love it when a team like this hangs on reputations of past dominence and underestimate their opponents. That is always a good thing.

I hope they don't forget to tighten up their chinstraps though (who knows, they might think they don't need to snap them at all) because the physical "blue collar" Redlands Bulldogs are planning to continue their tough dominate play right through the "Johnnies" and into the next round.

Thanks for all of the SCIAC support, Redlands won't let you down.

Quote from: Scurlock11 on November 12, 2007, 12:09:58 AM
Good luck to Redlands in representing the SCIAC... Given how my body felt after that game (not to mention my pride) I'm sure you're coming home with the W...good season

Mr. Scurlock- Thanks for giving SCIAC some great moments during your career. When you single handedly defeated Redlands a year ago in OT, I realized then what a dangerous and talented QB you were. I happened to know a couple of the Redlands linebackers in that game that were very frustrated in the fact that they couldn't catch you, and when they did, you simply completed a passed downfield.

Great game against the Tigers, it sounds like you did the same thing against them. What a way to go out. You and the entire Whittier team kept your head up and took care of business and did it with class. I bet it had alot to do with your leadership.

Thanks for the +karma for Redlands against St. John's. Redlands will show up with the physical game that they have been known for this year and bring back the "W".

Best of luck to you and am glad you are on the board.

Quote from: D O.C. on November 05, 2007, 01:40:09 PM
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Scheduling national ranked teams for non-conference games has been Coach Maynards mantra for the past 5 years at least.

                                                  

D.O.C.-  I'm glad you enjoyed my "mantra" comment. I was just trying to relate to you "sixties' guys". The seventies were just not as pure. I had my tie dye shirt on and everything.

My mantra, "Redlands is the best team, they should go, Redlands is the best team, they should go".

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2007, 09:55:23 PM


Trinity had to allow room in its schedule for Colorado College and Birmingham Southern College, which joined the SCAC this year.

RT- Absolutely true. Trinity had no choice with regards to the scheduling change with Redlands. No knock to Trinity (actually meant to brag that were originally scheduled to play them again this year.)

Quote from: OxyBob on November 04, 2007, 08:43:22 PM
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You also failed to consider Redlands' impressive non-conference victory over NAIA powerhouse Haskell Indian Nations University. I know that the Redlands fans haven't mentioned it, because they are trying to forget that it ever happened.

OxyBob

OB- You have been very consistent about OXY's SOS with Menlo and Lewis & Clark. (I always like hearing it!) You are also accurate of course about Haskell. I have never mentioned it and we do sweep that one under the rug.

I'm sure everyone knows Trinity of Texas cancelled the fourth and final year of a four year contract with Redlands. Scheduling national ranked teams for non-conference games has been Coach Maynards mantra for the past 5 years at least.

This years schedule was supposed to be Whitworth and Trinity. When Trinity cancelled, there were very few teams that had a slot for that weekend. Hence Haskell. A week team yes, but better than no game at all.

The only problem in the past few years is that Redlands has not fielded good enough teams to win the games against these ranked teams, putting them in a hole with a couple of losses going into conference. That is why we were so excited about the Whitworth win. It is ironic that this would have been the right team to take a serious shot at Trinity.  Last years game in San Antonio was an embarrassing loss for Redlands.

Anyway, I feel that SCIAC does deserve to get a Pool "C" bid,  because of how strong both OXY and Redlands are.  Even if SCIAC is perceived nationally as being a weak league, that doesn't diminish the fact that both  OXY and Redlands are very strong teams. If both teams win this weekend, I believe one of them will go.

Cal Lu might have some thoughts of their own about that when this weekend gets here.

BTW- Fear the Poet- I hope your son is OK and will be able to play against the tigers. He is a big kid out of pads also.  Very impressive. Good luck!

Quote from: OxyBob on November 01, 2007, 03:26:33 PM

Quote from: paddymac on November 01, 2007, 11:01:38 AM
Thats the sound of any team that plays at OXY, finding out at half time, that some OXY folks have entered and stolen all their wallets and personal items. 

The only real act of larceny that I recall was Daniel Tromello intercepting Dan Selway and running it back 74 yards, setting up Oxy's last score, which turned out to be the difference in the game, and which very well may be the TD that keeps Redlands out of the playoffs. Maybe someone from Redlands can pick Tromello out of a lineup. "That's him, officer! That's the guy who stole our Pool C bid!"

OxyBob

One last comment on this crappy subject. Once in awhile the "no spin zone" should take place and this is one of them. A very bad crime was committed against a visiting team while in the Oxy home. Occidental took responsibility for it and reportedly re-imbursed the Redlands football players for upwards of $13,000.

Over 50 young men had their wallets, ipods and personal items stolen. The only thing that should be commented about is the sympathy all of us should have for them with regards to drivers licenses, identy theft, credit card replacement, etc.

Paddymac's small infraction of blaming it on "oxy folks" was not right, but all of the posts after that statement missed the real issue and in my opinion were actually worse and went below the belt.

I know the intentions of all posts are meant in good spirit and humor, and I am sure these were no exception. But once in a while.......

I sure hope this is "the end" of this subject and let's get after each other on all the other stuff (which is a blast)

Quote from: scandihoovian on November 01, 2007, 11:48:13 PM
C'Mon Tooth!


I'm actually almost all Swedish - my grandparents were all of the old school Augustana Lutheran Church variety, which probably means nothing to anyone on this board.  I'll put it to you this way, my grandmother thought I was entering into a mixed marriage when I met a nice German Lutheran girl at CLU.

I think that synode used to be called the Augustana Evangelical Lutheran Church. Hey, what do I know, I can't even spell "Lutheren".

Scandi-You didn't happen to have an older sister at the "LU" in the seventies. I would hate to think I married your sister. 

Quote from: swede on November 01, 2007, 07:52:37 PM
Redlands Will beat Cal. Lu.  I can't stand the Kingsmen and have good reasons why. 

Being from Redlands, having gone to Cal Lu, being Lutheren and married to a Swede, I am all confused anyway. However, if the problem goes back to 1973 - 1976, then lets "roll" Ha!

Correction to the 8-1 record for all three, must have been a Freudian slip. Of course I meant... 4-1 conference record.  ...ahem

Quote from: OxyBob on October 31, 2007, 08:40:00 PM

Quote from: snoop dawg on October 31, 2007, 01:28:13 PM
Can anyone state for sure that,  if UR beats CLU and they, along with Oxy, finish with the same league record, that CLU get the AQ based on the "Rose Bowl" rule?

Any post season selection criteria used that does not send the best team from that conference is flawed. The problem in using the Rose bowl rule as the second most important criteria in picking a representative of the league for post season play is that it has nothing to do with who is the best team. Maybe if it was used as a fifth or sixth criteria then ok.

Sending a team because "I am sorry, it's been so long since you've been to the playoffs, so you should go" reminds me of handing out participation trophy's in T Ball, We don't want to have anyone feel bad now do we? Or how about this one, "We just want to be more fair for everyone!" Remember, it takes a village. Ugh!

What happened to power rankings. Even high schools use them for playoffs.  If Oxy, Redlands, and CLU all end up 8-1, and SCIAC does not send it's strongest team, whoever you think that is, then shame on our conference.

How many other conferences use the "Rose bowel" rule? If the rest of them do, then I'll be quiet and pull out my blankee and take a nap. 

Quote from: redlandsfan on October 30, 2007, 12:39:25 AM

When the last coach was there the program played with very little class, and it made it fun to always beat them.

Point #1-CLU has always played with class. Coach Squires was a quality coach and a quality guy.

BTW- I didn't find out until after I was out of there that they paid scholorships to the football players, and I was one, ouch!
(of course tuition was $1,500.00 per year back then, ...don't be laughing now)

Point #2- Whittier beat Redlands last year with most of the same players back this year. I hope the Bulldogs don't forget that.

 

said hi? i thought we are tailgating together.
[/quote]Now you're talking. The rest of the Redlands group welcomes and wants to meet FTP also. South parking lot towards the east end. You and Lucy had better be there or the gang will be insulted.

Quote from: Fear the Poet on October 29, 2007, 06:25:56 PM
Bulldog fans...where should we do our tailgating on saturday? Any suggestions are appreciated.

ftp- either just west of the stadium in the dirt parking lot or just south of the stadium in the regular parking lot. Proud if #63's parents came up and said Hi, Redbulldog

 

Quote from: OxyBob on October 28, 2007, 03:53:06 AM

Heartiest congratulations to CLU for a well-deserved victory.

OxyBob

Quote from: scandihoovian on October 28, 2007, 11:36:11 PM

Quote from: Gray Fox on October 28, 2007, 11:33:42 PM

Quote from: Wild Thing on October 28, 2007, 11:26:55 PM

I think Oxy was remembering how Collins brought them back last year almost by himself.  They forgot that he graduated.

Oxy's had a great run, and there's no evidence that last night's game means they have presently fallen precipitously from prominence 

[/quote]Redlands will be trying to get back into the playoff picture at 8-1.

[/quote]As painful as this loss must have felt to Oxy (ending the streak and all) humbling experiences tend to bring reality back into ones life.(see, my therapy sessions have paid off). The reality is that this team has done more with less than their past championship teams. Ironically, this is what makes this team so good. This is a compliment to this team and its players.

The character of this team (which is the important thing) will now be defined by how they respond this next week against Chapman after this loss. Oxy has not loss a conference game for a long time.  Many of these players have never lost a game in their college career. Could this be a problem for the coaches?

I have no doubt that they will show up and play extra tough. However, Oxy will have their hands full. Chapman is a team that has the talent to beat anyone in SCIAC. I know Redlands is glad that game is over.  Oxy has a chance to prove me wrong this weekend.

Not to get ahead of ourselves, like it was stated, alot of football remains to be played. But consider this. You already know I'm crazy but,

How crazy would it be if....  an
8-1 Redlands team, dominating all meaningful stats in the conference (best overall record, best defense, best offense, most points scored etc.) does not get into the playoffs behind a
7-2 Oxy (sorry-a loss to Chapman for loss number 2) with Oxy's only dominate performances against 0-7 Lewis and Clark, 1-8 Menlo (who's only win is against Lewis and Clark), and 0-7 La Verne, and of course holding Redlands to only 539 yards of offense and behind a

5-4 CLU team who would have losses against PLU, Willamette, Chapman and Redlands (of course still a big "if", sorry Scandi and Wild Thing).

Whew.. Redbulldog taking a breath. Dr. Phil, where are you when I need you! Minnie Bulldog, are you out there? Man , I've got to cut back on this caffeine.