Quote from: defenseiskey on November 16, 2007, 09:58:13 AM
Yes Hartwick has a great offense but I think Curry is capable of putting up a score just as easy as Hartwick. They have three great players on O in Boltus Crea and Phelan but i think Curry D will slow them down enough to get the win. Should have  great game on our hands. Game could be very close or a blowout We'll have to wait and see which team shows up for both sides.

Good luck to PSU and BSC. Plymouth wins easily.

It is quite simple if you are going to beat Hartwick you have to flat out out score them, in a high scoring game. What 'wicks offense is best at is reconizing and taking what a defense gives them.
If you can bring pressure every down with just your front four(nobody has done it yet) you may slow them down.
Sit back in zone coverage, giving Boltus all day in the pocket, and he will find open receivers all over the field.
Bring pressure and the dump offs to Crea, the rollouts and the scrambles will just demorilize and wear out your rushers.

Quote from: 63Center on November 16, 2007, 08:25:46 AM
OK, time to weigh in on these games.  I am picking Curry over Hartwick 28-24 for the following reasons:  Curry has home field, I want teh NEFC to finally win a playoff game, Hartwick's defense is weaker than Curry's and offensively I think they are about equal.

PSC 35 BSC 28 - I think PSC has the better team this year and wants this game badly since they did not make the NCAA tourney.

Way to go NEFC Posters we made it to 110 pages before the end of the season.  Good luck to all of the teams still playing this weekend.

Your dreamin son. Their offenses aren't even close.

Quote from: oldcurryalum on November 15, 2007, 11:54:09 PM
Curry will take Hartwick to the woodshed and give them a dose of reality.

Curry 28   Hartwick 20

That's funny. If Curry holds Hartwick to 20 points they have a shot to beat anyone except Mt. Union.

Quote from: dewcrew88 on November 14, 2007, 11:19:38 AM

Quote from: admirals_vt on November 14, 2007, 11:14:43 AM

Quote from: JoseQViper on November 14, 2007, 10:36:31 AM

Quote from: admirals_vt on November 14, 2007, 10:30:10 AMYou can never replace a Crea, but with your QB, #1WR and complete O-line returning your not going to have much if any drop-off and with that returning you have to be the number #1 contender to land whoever the regions stud coming out of HS is. I didn't say we would stop playing after the first round, but you have to admit after the last couple of years even at this point this is a great year and nobody on this team will go into the off-season (hopefully weeks away) without positive memories.

I absolutely disagree with this.

Even if we limit it just to the regional studs that fit the D-III private school profile, I still don't thin HC will be the number 1 choice.

I didn't say the number 1 choice, I said contender. If you are a back and think you can play and produce as a freshman your going to make a short list that has schools with a starter graduating. Than other factors come it to play for final selection (school size, majors, location, etc...). There are a number of current players that switched schools do to playing time.

If a player goes to Hartwick on a recruiting trip, likes to climb the hills, thinks he can get a good education for the type of major and career he's looking at and the financial aid is good, than Hartwick will be the choice. IMO, I think education and the school is a much bigger piece for recruits in DIII then anywhere else.

I agree, but unfortunately there are kids even at the D3 level that go someplace just because of a sport. Probably has something to do with 'rents being in a fanasty world as well.

By the way Dew, from the reports I got your boys came to play from the coin flip Sat.. Don't know if it is because of the coach, but a tip of the admirals cap to them and it can't help but lift spirits for next year.

Quote from: realistic on November 14, 2007, 10:56:26 AM
I don't think you can ever say any school is a guaranteed #1 choice for any athlete without knowing them individually.  Obviously there are way too many factors that should be considered.  A kid who wants to be an engineer isn't going to Ithaca, just like a kid who wants to play an instrument isn't going to RPI.

Again I never said guaranteed, just a contender and based on this year 'wick will definately get looks from kids that may have only looked at SJF, IC or AU.

Quote from: JoseQViper on November 14, 2007, 10:36:31 AM

Quote from: admirals_vt on November 14, 2007, 10:30:10 AMYou can never replace a Crea, but with your QB, #1WR and complete O-line returning your not going to have much if any drop-off and with that returning you have to be the number #1 contender to land whoever the regions stud coming out of HS is. I didn't say we would stop playing after the first round, but you have to admit after the last couple of years even at this point this is a great year and nobody on this team will go into the off-season (hopefully weeks away) without positive memories.

I absolutely disagree with this.

Even if we limit it just to the regional studs that fit the D-III private school profile, I still don't thin HC will be the number 1 choice.

I didn't say the number 1 choice, I said contender. If you are a back and think you can play and produce as a freshman your going to make a short list that has schools with a starter graduating. Than other factors come it to play for final selection (school size, majors, location, etc...). There are a number of current players that switched schools do to playing time.

Quote from: BoSox0322 on November 14, 2007, 09:54:53 AM

Quote from: admirals_vt on November 14, 2007, 09:13:50 AM

Quote from: Tags on November 14, 2007, 12:15:39 AM

Quote from: admirals_vt on November 13, 2007, 11:33:31 PM

Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 13, 2007, 08:33:15 PM
But back to football.........

It seems like Hartwick has some defensive problems.  But is it speed, size, quickness?

Size up front. They need some space eaters. If a team has a power running game we are in huge trouble. The defenses goal is to get one or two stops a game, the offense will take over from there.

That same exact theory didn't work out too well for Springfield - you absolutely need a defense to do any damage in the NCAA's.

I agree, but lets not forget this is only 'wicks first taste of the NCAA's. We'll be happy with monkey stomping Curry and build on that for next year with the same offense and improved defense and special teams (both problems right now)

not the same offense without Crea... and we are not content with just beating Curry...

You can never replace a Crea, but with your QB, #1WR and complete O-line returning your not going to have much if any drop-off and with that returning you have to be the number #1 contender to land whoever the regions stud coming out of HS is. I didn't say we would stop playing after the first round, but you have to admit after the last couple of years even at this point this is a great year and nobody on this team will go into the off-season (hopefully weeks away) without positive memories.

Quote from: mel on November 14, 2007, 06:55:59 AM
Thanks to the ECAC for pairing Bridewater and Plyomouth... that is exactly what the NEFC needed.  To play each other time after time.

So in other words you would like the ECAC to do something that the teams in the NEFC won't do for themselves?

Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 14, 2007, 05:54:58 AM

Quote from: admirals_vt on November 13, 2007, 11:33:31 PM

Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 13, 2007, 08:33:15 PM
But back to football.........

It seems like Hartwick has some defensive problems.  But is it speed, size, quickness?

Size up front. They need some space eaters. If a team has a power running game we are in huge trouble. The defenses goal is to get one or two stops a game, the offense will take over from there.

Well dont know if Im going to be the bearer of bad news, but Curry is 100% power running game.  They run a lot of unbalanced I formation with a tackle over.  Also a big oline and some solid rbs.  Curry does not have a lot of offensive team speed, but they ran the ball at will against CG. 

And just wait when its 3rd and 1 or 4th and one, and they qb sneak it with 3 olinemen in the backfield pushing the whole line forward 5 yards!

That is not necessarily a bad thing. When a team like Hartwick scores quick touchdowns a grind it out team will panic and try to open it up. That is when they make mistakes, especially if they are trying to do things they don't normally do. That has been the one strength of Hartwicks D, forcing mistakes when the other team is trying to step up the tempo.

Quote from: Tags on November 14, 2007, 12:15:39 AM

Quote from: admirals_vt on November 13, 2007, 11:33:31 PM

Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 13, 2007, 08:33:15 PM
But back to football.........

It seems like Hartwick has some defensive problems.  But is it speed, size, quickness?

Size up front. They need some space eaters. If a team has a power running game we are in huge trouble. The defenses goal is to get one or two stops a game, the offense will take over from there.

That same exact theory didn't work out too well for Springfield - you absolutely need a defense to do any damage in the NCAA's.

I agree, but lets not forget this is only 'wicks first taste of the NCAA's. We'll be happy with monkey stomping Curry and build on that for next year with the same offense and improved defense and special teams (both problems right now)

Quote from: defenseiskey on November 13, 2007, 10:34:13 AM
I believe that teams like the Curry and Bridgewaters and now Plymouth again need to play better competition. Maybe Curry should play RPI and Endicott Worcester since EC never gives RPI a run for their money.

Should be a good test for the NEFC this weekend and I think that Curry has the better team overall with a strong defense and offense as well as a pretty sturdy special teams. while hartwick can strike quick on offense i am not to sold on their defense very much. Hopefully Curry can one for us this year.

You have no idea what your in for from this offense. You can not take away everthing on defense and they take what you give them and let it fly.

Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 13, 2007, 08:33:15 PM
But back to football.........

It seems like Hartwick has some defensive problems.  But is it speed, size, quickness?

Size up front. They need some space eaters. If a team has a power running game we are in huge trouble. The defenses goal is to get one or two stops a game, the offense will take over from there.

Quote from: superman57 on November 08, 2007, 11:09:05 AM
plus  PC's predictions could potentially get us Fisher-Wick II

That would make everybody happy. You guys could prove the loss to us was a fluke and if we get to the second round we prove that out invite was legit. win/win

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Quote from: admirals_vt on November 08, 2007, 10:56:31 AM

Quote from: AUKaz00 on November 08, 2007, 08:57:44 AM

Quote from: sjfcards on November 07, 2007, 08:03:39 PM
Any predictions for the big Fisher/Alfred game this weekend?

How about any predictions for who will get in from the east region?

Here's what I think the East Region will look like Sunday night:

1 Wesley vs. 8 Hartwick
2 TCNJ vs. 7 Widener
3 Muhlenberg vs. 6 RPI
4 Fisher vs. 5 Curry

The Mules and the Cards could flip as could Curry and RPI.

Gee thanks for giving me a friggin 9 hour trip one way. In your scenario though I see Widener and Hartwick flipping. Widener closer to Wesley

a) I don't see them sending two teams into the east...
b)at this point it is TCNJ's bracket to lose, and go check out Pat's predictions on the front page, I think he has it pretty accurtte, because IF... RPI wins they also need Hobart to win to get a pool c, so the only way to open up a pool c is to have RPI and Hobart lose, and then I can see the winner of Cortland-Ithaca possibly take the pool c

Trust me I liked Big Cole's predictions much better. He was more in-line with the regional rankings.

Quote from: AUKaz00 on November 08, 2007, 08:57:44 AM

Quote from: sjfcards on November 07, 2007, 08:03:39 PM
Any predictions for the big Fisher/Alfred game this weekend?

How about any predictions for who will get in from the east region?

Here's what I think the East Region will look like Sunday night:

1 Wesley vs. 8 Hartwick
2 TCNJ vs. 7 Widener
3 Muhlenberg vs. 6 RPI
4 Fisher vs. 5 Curry

The Mules and the Cards could flip as could Curry and RPI.

Gee thanks for giving me a friggin 9 hour trip one way. In your scenario though I see Widener and Hartwick flipping. Widener closer to Wesley