Tufts losing to Amherst at home is just stunning. Agree that they can't be ranked #2 with 3 losses and a loss to Wes, although I think they may be the second best team in NESCAC.
Still can't get over Phil Lutz's crazy stat line vs Middlebury.

Quote from: nescac1 on October 10, 2022, 07:44:56 AM
Ummm, kind of an interesting Twitter exchange here.  However he ends up as a football player, this kid is surely a class act and I say that as a Williams fan:

https://twitter.com/dbagatelle/status/1579189895842926592?s=46&t=f37coF4yQarplPFnVHKePQ

What a strange response from Bagatelle. As far as I can tell, the kid didn't even receive an offer from Wesleyan, or any other school for that matter. Maybe I'm missing something.

Agree with Unionpalooza, while leaving NESCAC was good for football, a bad decision in all other aspects.

Union had a great DIII hockey program in the 80's, played in two DIII Frozen Fours, and used to go toe to toe with a great RPI program. I remember in 84/85 having eventual D1 National Champion RPI on the ropes, then letting up a very late 3rd period goal and eventually losing 3-2 in OT. That was the RPI team with Adam Oates, Daren Puppa, John Carter, etc. What a game.

Quote from: Charlie on December 30, 2021, 07:46:52 PM

Quote from: UfanBill on December 30, 2021, 06:52:25 PM
UNION was a charter member of the NESCAC in 1971 until they departed in 1977. IMO that was the best thing to ever happen to the Union football program. Forget them ever rejoining the NESCAC. On the converse I actually think it makes much more sense for Hamilton to leave the NESCAC and join the Liberty League.

Am I mistaken or was Norwich University or WPI at one time in the NESCAC ?

I am almost positive that they never were, but do recall Middlebury-Norwich playing all the time until NESCAC went exclusive in football.

Vassar? Really?
Is this a sports board?

Quote from: D3FLETCH on November 19, 2021, 06:35:25 PM

Quote from: lumbercat on November 19, 2021, 09:44:04 AM
Dave Murray was viewed as the savior of the Hamilton program when hired 8 years ago. In 7 seasons his record is 18-43. He has never had a winning record. Didn't realize Hamilton Football has not had a winning season since 1996. I recall some very good teams back in the mid 80's but have overlooked their futility thereafter.
I believe there could be some rumblings among Buff 'n Blue alums who have always been a pretty vocal group.
Murray was a winner in his prior coaching tenures and had great credentials coming in but seems to have made little progress with the Hamilton program.

Hamilton is in the market for an offensive coordinator. Joe Gilbert and Herb Hand have been contacted.

How could you forget Seamus Crotty? Mention of Joe Gilbert brings back memories of going against that beast of a man back in the day.

Hamilton, while a great school and a beautiful campus, is a tough sell to recruits. No history of recent success, and long bus rides to play other schools just to lose. When Union got kicked out of NESCAC, they lost their natural rival (and what a great rivalry it was), and now seem to be adrift. Not sure who could change that culture there. 

I would think that Cortica is more important to Cortland (and Ithica) than playoff seeding, may in fact be more important than the playoffs.

And 10-2 Union (or any LL team) doesn't get a ticket to the dance.

Quote from: Machiavelli on October 15, 2021, 10:02:54 AM
Interesting piece of news per a release from Lord Shirley yesterday...

<Paraphrased> RPI will be 'allowing' families of seniors only vs. Ithaca on October 30th(same for a few other sports on certain dates). This is limited to 4 family members per senior, no one over the age of 12. They will require a liability waiver be filled out, proof of vaccination, AND a negative PCR test within 48 hours. They will be banished to the visiting side stands in assigned seats(separated from students, staff, and faculty) and masks must be worn at all times.

THIS ENTIRE THING IS RIDICULOUS!!!! As Darth Jackson continues her travels, lack of social distancing, and non-mask wearing. What a complete joke she has single-handedly made RPI. I will cheer for the football team, but I will NOT support RPI as an Institution any longer, unless she gets pushed out on her ass where she belongs in short time.

Sorry Mach, but I'm calling bull**** on you here. You've been saying that Dr Shirley should follow the science, and when she does, you still harangue her.
The science is clear; senior parents are much safer than junior and sophomore parents (don't even get me started on how dangerous freshmen parents are), social distancing of 50 yards away on the visitors side is better than 6 feet (although the Ithica administration I'm sure is livid that their players and staff will be endangered by being up to 50 feet from the RPI senior parents), and October 30 has proven to be the safest COVID day.
She's a doctor, for gods sake. Give her some credit.

I just don't understand not allowing the parents to attend an outdoor sport. Make them be vaccinated, make them wear masks outside ( , make them sit 60 feet apart,  whatever, but they should certainly be able to attend their kids games. At most, you would have 200 parents in a stadium that seats 5K fans. This just makes me mad, and I'm not even involved, I can't imagine how livid these parents are. Absolutely ridiculous, I have to question the RPI administrations thought process.

Quote from: Jonny Utah on September 09, 2021, 12:39:51 PM

Quote from: Ice Bear on September 09, 2021, 12:09:47 PM
Ice Bear says great footage and thanks for the share Utah. Yes, it is a football on their coconuts, Ice remembers it well. He wasn't a fan of it at the time. He prefered the word Union written in cursive (his all time favorite and the log used during the b89' Stagg Bowl run). However, Ice must say he loves the new all white helmets with the U that the Dutch are sporting today.

Ice Bear says he was almost definitely at that game with Ice Bear senior watching the beloved Dutchmen faithful raise hell from the couch they placed on the hill directly behind the Hobart bench. Ah the memories Ice has...

Well I have found out that the 1986 Union helmets have some history behind them.  On November 11, 1886, Union played it's first football game against Albany Medical College and lost 8-0 (they would redeem themselves a week later beating RPI 4-0).  100 years later the school decided to celebrate the 100 year mark of the program and had a specific logo on the helmets which was in the form of football and had the years (1886-1986) on it as well as the words "Union" and "centennial" underneath.

Makes me think that Ithaca will have it's 100 year mark of the program in 2030.  Like Union, their first opponent ever no longer has a football program (Mansfield, although they do have a sprint one). 

History lesson over, carry on.

Thanks Utah, +K. Brought back some great memories, watched some of the game with my son last night, first time he'd ever seen a film of me playing.
Good research on the helmet decals, we hated them, loved the script Union decals.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2020, 11:07:27 PM
jmcozenlaw -- is there a reason you feel the need to keep doing this? 

I have to admit, for a minute there I thought we had found a successor to Iamhuge. Alas, just another pretender, and an angry one at that. *sigh*

Quote from: Bartman on December 17, 2019, 02:30:30 PM
All the math is kinda dumb based on a couple of games...

Bartman, you clearly don't understand math, all you need is one game to make a point (ad-nauseam), two is almost overkill. And emotional factors have no impact at all when it comes to football games involving teenage/20 year old boys. 

I'm not sure what set JCoz off, he seemed like a good guy, maybe there is some history there? A Swarthmore math meet back in college that Muhlenburg crashed and kicked their ass in? We may never know...

Quote from: unionpalooza on December 14, 2019, 08:54:06 PM

Eh, math is a harsh mistress.  DVC might have wanted to go long volatility this year, given it managed to lose to Wesley by 8 and beat them by 35 in the same season.  That sorta suggests to me that the math of which you speak has its limits.

This. Taking one data point (especially one involving teenage boys, a ton of emotion, matchups, etc.) and using it to make a case, is absurd. You seem to be a math savant, investigate the Transitive Property of Sports Scores, and let me know what you find. https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/math-meets-football-the-transitive-property-is-real
https://myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/path

Quote from: Bartman on December 16, 2019, 08:59:39 AM
Wait a minute.... ..... investment return superiority versus the simplicity and purity of counting bench reps....the mind vs. the body ....how will this challenge end?

You wait a minute Bartman, are you trying to combine investing and bench pressing in one contest? I think we ALL know who would win said contest: The one, the only,...

Quote from: Hawks88 on December 13, 2019, 01:21:28 PM


Then you have the next to last employee from the bottom. Always good to have an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant on staff, I suppose?

Of course, she's useless if she can't bench 300...