Dennis, I'm not saying his delivery was slow.  Quite the contrary--he could get his shots airborne.

The slowness to which I refer is the time it took for his soft shot to slop around the rim and backboard before it finally went down.

As I indicated, a clean "swish" shot was not in his arensal.  But he certainly did score.

Gobczynski would be mentioned for all-time, all-star CCIW honors if you want someone with the softest touch.  Gobo scored tons against Carthage during the years I saw him, but the remarkable thing is the fact he almost never made a "clean" basket.  No "swish" shots for Gobo.  He'd loft the ball toward the basket and it would slop about for a bit before flopping down in.  But, they counted--even if not very pretty.

Gobo was a scoring machine, but also one who could slow a game.  His shots took eons to go in the basket.

My guess is that quite a lot of folks away from IWU were surprised at how well Sikma did as a pro.  And, those of us at other schools made a point of telling folks he was out of "our conference."  (Some of us even said some nice things about Augustana's Ken Anderson after he made his pro football mark.)

I saw Sikma only four times, the road trips he made to Carthage.  That's not much of a measure for making "greatest" claims.

I guess I go back a good distance, since it became CCIW after Carthage moved to Wisconsin--constituting the one of the two Wisconsin schools that caused CCI to become CCIW.

Yes, Jesse Price was a great "small college" ball player.  I won't say "D III" 'cause I don't want to argue that one. 

I gained a lot of respect for Sikma after his college years, as I remember one skinny Carthage center doing quite a job on Jack.  I didn't see enough of him to proclaim "best" ever in the CCIW.

My vote would have to go to Jack Lutz.  At Carthage he was most often a forward (6' 3"), but had he played guard thru four years of college, I'm certain he would have made it with the Milwaukee Bucks.  The year they drafted Lutz is the same year they drafted Alcindor and Dandridge.

In one-on-one situations, no one in our conference could stay with Lutz.  And, opposing coaches knew that and tried hard to keep such occasions to a minimum.

But, I've seen a lot of really fine basketball players from all of the conference teams and I would be hard pressed to try to name an all-time greatest player, or, to try to name an all-time all-star team spanning more than a generation.

Know what I mean?

"I like seriously almost had a..."

Can someone translate, please?

And the meaning of "is," is...?

Eaves are those structures you drop from, when seeking info from neighbors, or real or imagined enemies.  It has become a growth industry.

but he still pays on the Tri-State

My biggest 'mental error' as an athlete was thinking I was better than I was.

Every missed shot in basketball was a 'mental error,' as I thought it was going in or I wouldn't have made the attempt.

Every swinging strike was similarly a 'mental error' as I always thought I'd hit the ball.

As an old Cardinals fan, I remain delighted with but one super trade.

Lou Brock

It may be standard procedure, but it's one I've not seen for any position I've taken.  Such broad ambiguity would make even the most outrageous assignment within the scope of the contract -- a continuous shield of protection for "management," or the school administration.

"perform other duties as assigned"

Wow!  That's precision in a job description.

Felipe Alou it is -- started his career in 1958

Unless I missed it, I don't believe anyone mentioned Jerry Hairston Jr. of the Texas Rangers.

We'll put Preston Wilson up top of the list, the follow with the 29 believed to be a complete cast of players following in Dad's footsteps as MLB characters.

Sandy Alomar Jr, Moises Alou, Tony Armas Jr, Brian Bannister, Josh Barfield, David Bell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Robinson Cano, Bobby Crosby, Jose Cruz Jr, Jeff DaVanon, Chris Duncan, Brandon Fahey, Prince Fielder, Ken Griffey Jr, Jason Grilli, Jerry Hairston Jr, Jason Kendall, Adam LaRoche, Gary Mathews Jr, Lance Niekro, Darren Oliver, Eduardo Perez, Justin Speier, Scott Spiezio, Nick Swisher, Daryle Ward, Jeret Wright.

Hope yesterday was a happy one for you fathas.

and spell is NEVER speel.