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#1
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
March 03, 2008, 11:15:32 PM
Quote from: gobombers15 on March 03, 2008, 10:00:45 PM
Cyclone, per one of the ICTV reports during IC's semi-final game vs Fisher, Ithaca was not eligible to compete in the ECAC's this season. Apparently, the story goes, Ithaca came back a day early from Thanksgiving Break to start practice. The one extra practice constituted an "extra week" of practice and, thus, the team went over the maximum allowed weeks of practices as regulated by the ECAC. This is what the report said so I apologize for any inaccuracies, complete or partial.

Normally, I think ECAC's are a good chance to get more playing time together, improve, etc. However, I think there'd be diminishing returns if the Bombers were to lace 'em up for this year's version of the NIT. It'd be their third straight year in ECAC's and I just don't think they'd be motivated after winning the regular season conference title and then having their season end the way it did. I think Utica would have stood to benefit most from this year's E8 Tourney. The Pios would have had a chance to face teams who made it into the E8 Tourney (Fisher) and measure themselves against other top teams in the region (SLU, B'port, Oswego, Vassar, etc.) that everyone had just assumed were better than Utica. Plus, they're a young team that will get better with each game. Unfortunately, like IC, Utica had too many practices and was ineligible. I hope Fisher shows well.

I played college sports and i'll tell you one thing if my regular season ended in a 20 point butt kickin on my home floor you bet your bottom dollar my butt would want to play one more game for a chance to get that taste outta my mouth. I'm pretty sure Burton and company being the competitors they are feel the same way.




#2
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
March 03, 2008, 02:51:51 PM
Fisher has the #4 seed in the ECAC tourney and will host #5 seed Vassar at time tbd.....
#3
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
March 03, 2008, 01:13:43 PM
Naz is in the Amherst, Plattsburgh State bracket ouch.......
#4
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
March 02, 2008, 09:01:16 PM
Quote from: gobombers15 on March 02, 2008, 12:38:24 AM
Seems like that despite Naz's best efforts to give Fisher that game, the Cards just would not take Naz up on their offer. The Golden Flyers lead 62-59 with 4:17 left then, in typical Naz fashion, manage only two more points for the rest of the game yet still somehow win the game. Unbelievable.

He had a good season, but I have a feeling Baltz is going to have trouble sleeping for awhile after going 0-for-9 and putting up a goose-egg in a one-point loss to your arch-rivals in a game that would have sent you to the NCAA's. That one will sit there for awhile.

Seeing that he has two more years to make up for it I'm sure he'll get by. There is enough blame to go around. Fisher missed numerous "chippy's" in the first and second half.
#5
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
March 01, 2008, 08:44:20 AM
Quote from: FisherDynasty on March 01, 2008, 12:36:11 AM
I do think Mullins is a bad coach but superman...ithaca has an incredible team? come on, you might have lost it.  Ithaca is Solid/good at most.  what is sub par for Fisher? sub par compared to previous years? then yes definatly, sub par to the conf? i dont think so, sub par to the region? no.  all in all i think Fisher is better than Ithaca, a not as good as Naz and about even with Stevens.  If they do come together and each game the young players to play in and smalt gets in they might be able to overcome naz, idk though, the lack of leadership could back fire.  All though, Naz still has an outside shot at an at large where Fishers season besides ECACs is over if they lose.  They are going to come out extremely pumped up.

As ive been saying all year long, Ithaca is still a year away from being a NCAA tourny team, they had a very good season, burton is very good.  From watching the game tonight some of the subtle things he does is impressive.  He is very good at drawing contact.  I think coyne and mckeever did a great job defensively and burton still got his points.  Leahy needs to hit the weights and cut his hair, bostic will be better next year after another year of lifting and some of there other younger role players could develop into what that team needs to get to the next level. 

Last night was an example of an old fashion butt kickin period. Fisher was faster to offensive rebounds, loose balls and beat Ithaca in about every aspect. Burton had 25 but he earned them. You can 't even breath on that kid and its a foul. If Fisher plays like that today it's gonna be another Empire 8 tourney title. I think J. Beig proved he is at least second team. He owned Bostic just like Fisher has owned Ithaca in Ithaca.
#6
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 29, 2008, 01:00:03 PM
He should be very soon. Word around the grapevine the players like Hepler more than Kornacker.....He will be a successful head coach maybe in the empire 8!
#7
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 28, 2008, 03:55:06 PM
PS And why would you agree with me....Your a fisher hater just like the rest of frickin Ithaca.....it gets a little old
#8
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 28, 2008, 03:54:08 PM
R McAdam also did miss like 6 games due to injury that probably had some factor on why he wasn't on the second team. It's unfortunate but most likely was a factor.
#9
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 28, 2008, 12:51:45 PM
Quote from: e8bballfan on February 28, 2008, 11:43:58 AM
Quote from: gobombers15 on February 28, 2008, 11:18:36 AM
Beigel on the 2nd Team?!? Over Gethers and Ryan McAdam?? Stop that. Do the words "career achievement award" mean anything to you?


This is where I'm a little stunned. Beigel was put on 2nd team only because he was a senior. His in conference numbers are good (13.2 ppg, 6.7 boards) but fellow senior Kenny Gethers (14.3 / 6.4) averages a point more a game, and less than 1/3 rebounds per. I guess people think Beigel is more important to his team than Gethers. and maybe the fact that Gethers has only been around 2 yrs had something to do with this.

Now, look at McAdams numbers. 16 ppg, 8.8 rebounds which rank 6th and 3rd in the conference, respectively. An honorable mention player doesn't average those numbers, or put up 25 and 11 against the ithaca college this past weekend.

"Career Achievement Award" - yeah, pretty ridiculous and pathetic. I am sure that Justin Beigel didn't wake up this morning expecting to get that news from Kornaker.

Congratulations to all the other players on first and second teams, as well as the ROY's and Sean Burton for POY.

I am not stunned at all at Biegel getting second team. He was second team last year and has been Fisher's best most consistant player all year. He was obviously more valuable to Fisher than Gethers was to RIT since Fisher did finish 4th and really could of finished higher than that with a 1 or 2 more wins. What surprised me was Ozell Franklin getting rookie of the year??? I just didn't think he was that great. Very streaky and really did nothing to impress me all year. I don't think they should of split the award.
#10
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 28, 2008, 09:27:39 AM
Quote from: gobombers15 on February 27, 2008, 05:16:07 PM
BomberSquadron, I hope they open up the bleachers behind the benches even if only for Friday evening's games. I'm sure Fisher is going to send a lot of fans b/c this is the E8 Tourney. Also, wouldn't be surprised if the Naz fans and Stevens fans (who I assume will be staying the night) stick around for the late game.

However, I assume that the Naz/Stevens fans will be sitting in the Ithaca section because their game is first. How are you guys (and girls) going to get them out of there for the second game so that it's an Ithaca-only cheering section.

The only fans from Fisher will be family and a few straglers....I don't know if you recall senior day at Fisher. They made all the sports teams come and "support" the basketball teams and the few Ithaca fans made more noise than the Fisher "fans". It was PATHETIC!
#11
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 23, 2008, 06:02:17 PM
Thank god Fisher and Ithaca won for two reasons....1. I'll be honest i was looking forward to stone colding that six pack but the run through the ROC f that. B. I don't have to drive my happy a$s to frickin NJ next weekend. Should be some great matchups....Rubber match for SJF and Ithaca and Naz gets one more crack at Stevens.
#12
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 23, 2008, 10:26:32 AM
Quote from: FisherDynasty on February 23, 2008, 09:28:57 AM
If Fisher loses to Hartwick today, I will banish myself from any D3 board for the rest of my life.


True if Fisher loses to Hartwick i'll stone cold a six pack and run naked through downtown rochester. With that being said I'm sure Fisher will right the ship and take care of business.
#13
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 09, 2008, 08:37:34 PM
Quote from: gobombers15 on February 09, 2008, 07:34:20 PM
I have no problem with Burton shooting 27 times if he's going to score 37. The old adage is that you have to score at least one point for every FG attempted. He had almost 1.5 pts/FG attempt, that's exceptional. 

Re: Newman/Franklin, for a long time Franklin was playing much better than Newman. Franklin was the only player who did anything against Stevens the first time around. Franklin may be outta control sometimes, but I think he brings a lot more to the table than Newman (based on two seasons of seeing Newman), namely some added quickness to Fisher.

Well you did have a problem with Bostic not getting involved so what is it? If Burton is gonna shot like he did last night Bostic is not gonna get involved. It may be exceptional but it came in a game that Ithaca lost.

Now back to Franklin i disagree, Newman overall is a better smarter player. Franklin may be quicker but he doesn't use it to his advantage expecially on the defensive end. (reference McAdam)  I am no way a huge Newman fan because truth be known i think McKeever handles the point better but Newman overall has done a better job than Franklin.
#14
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 09, 2008, 05:24:33 PM
Quote from: gobombers15 on February 09, 2008, 01:25:36 PM
Newman with 22 is what killed Ithaca. No reason he should ever score that many. When I saw him play against Utica a couple weeks ago, I honestly thought he was a game or two from losing his starting spot to Franklin for the rest of his career. He just looked lost and had no confidence on the offensive end.

Bostic needs to be more involved second time around for these two teams. He's too much of a matchup problem for teams to not be used properly. He's capable of getting Beigel and/or Smalt in foul trouble

Losing his starting spot?? Obviously you don't know Fisher. Franklin is not ready to start. He is streaky and cannot handle the ball. He is called for a carry every game. His defense is terrible (McAdam scored on him 3 times in a row late in the game against Naz) Say what you will but Newman is going to be a great player. He can score, pass, play d and can rebound very well for his height.

It's kinda hard for Bostic to be involved when Burton shoots 27 times and only hits 11. I know he had 37 points but he did miss 10 three's. From what i saw yes he did have some nice blocks on Fisher's big men but most of the time Beigel and Smart scored easily with lay-ups.
#15
Region 3 men's basketball / Re: Empire 8
February 09, 2008, 10:42:46 AM
Quote from: bombersquadron on February 08, 2008, 05:18:30 PM
Quote from: gobombers15 on February 08, 2008, 01:18:09 PM
Predictions for tonight's games:

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Just got back from a class and working out. I think the x factor for tonight's game will be the crowd. Ithaca has had some big ones this year and tonight is suppose to be the biggest. The game has been highly publicized on campus and a lot of other sport teams are going to be there to show support. I expect the big crowd to help the Bombers get on some big runs. Besides that I agree with you GB15, i think it will be a games of runs until Ithaca makes one last push and wins by 10-15.

I didn't think the crowd was a factor at all. Fisher controlled most of the game and jumped out early. Burton did have a great night shooting but let's face it Ithaca lost. I think the X factor in the game was the 13 points from McKeever. Baltz didn't get many open looks and McKeever didn't miss a shot from the floor. Should be another good one next weekend.