Quote from: privacy on March 04, 2008, 09:06:53 AM
Maybe if Capital would have not gave away the championship game, they would have been given a little more respect. At least they do have a home game.

Im not so sure Capital gave away the champsionship game. Heidelberg put together an impressive run and made some tough shots down the stretch. Capital did have the game in control throughout the first half and the first part of the second half. However, when Capital went to their bench on that first rotation and never got the momentum back. I just think Capital and Heidelberg both deserve a little more credit with the way the game ended.

I think that Heidelberg will outrun OWU and then take a shot at Centre who I think the student princes match up well with. They may not have been there before, but you could say that they havent been in the top half of the league before and they did just fine down the stretch in the OAC.

Capital did get rewarded with a home game and then got slapped in the face by playing at #1 team in the country. Interesting move but as someone who has followed Capital Basketball over the years, at least they made the tournament this year at 23-5. Cant say the same for perhaps the second best team in the country back in 2003 when Otterbein rolled through the NCAA by 20pts+ after beating Capital 3 times but a combined total of like 5-6 points.

I still think there is a decent chance Cap and Heid play each other next week...

? - Lets say the OAC pulls off the upsets, where would the sections be held for the hypothetical CAP HEID game? Im not getting ahead of myself by any means just wondering how thats determined. Im not real familiar with how the D3 tourny works.

Congrats to the Berg on their big win tonight. Berg pushed and hustled their way back into the game which is a testiment of their hard work. Some very questionable calls down the stretch and it appeared that the officials werent going to be outshined tonight. Is it me or are the officials in the OAC just plain bad.. both ways.

Andrew Lemon wanted the win, and he willed his team to it. Coach Sheldon has done a tremous job with that program that used to be the laughing stock of tha oac. not anymore they are NCAA bound.

Ryan Wood had 22 or 24 in the second half after not even attempting a shot in the 1st. If he could put 2 halves together he will be an unbelievable player, which he is already one of the top three or four guards in the league along with nate stahl.

My guess is that these two teams will be playing again with more at stake.

Two teams representing the OAC in this years field of 59. congrats to both Cap and HEID for outstanding years.

Saw the Cap Mount game tonight, first five minutes of the game Capital looked like the best team in the country, then for the other 35 look content to just win.  Nate Stahl was back in the lineup but a couple Cap's players were still under the weather according to a student sitting in front of me. Game ball goes to Q.Mitchell, two thunderous dunks in traffic late in the game sealed what was a valiant comeback attempt by the raiders. the tourny comes through columbus this weekend. 

ONU at Capital on Friday after ONU put it to Muskie despite Tyler Felt hitting for 26..
game will be at 8pm.

Havent heard about the other two games. should be a fun weekend!

KB - not sure why he was out either. I was at the game and asked someone from Capital and they said they didnt know either but assumed he was sick. There has been some team sickness going around with CAP for about a month or so starting a couple weeks back when they lost to WILM. It would be a big loss if they had to play without Stahl anymore than this past weekend. Hes the team leader and the best player in the league in my opinion, even though hes not in the  league leaders on the OAC site for any category except 3pt%.  13pts and 5 rbs a game with double teams every night is a great stat line for him considering Capital is such a balanced team.

congrats to Adam Wells from Otterbein for pouring in 36 points on saturday night and hitting 1,000 points on the head.

I Also had a chance to read up on the Musky HEID game, what a finish! Sounded like there was some great basketball in the OAC again this past weekend and not just in Westerville.

the CAP HEID game was ugly... Looked more like a team that had already won the league and a team that wanted to prove they were able to be in the same gym. The officiating was pretty ugly throughout with the teams getting physical down the streth, and Capital seemingly was bored until they found themselves down 10 with 5 minutes to play. They kicked it in gear and ran off 9 straight and then it was a FT contest for HEID down the stetch.. HEID definitely hit some big shots early in the game and then Capital had no answer inside in the second half. Im not sure what the stats were but I wouldnt be surprised if HEID outrebounded the Crusaders in their own gym... #1, and #2 seeds are set for next week. We will see how these two teams react on saturday.

Makes for an intereting OAC tourny!  8)

Duly noted fellas.

He had better CAREER numbers than I thought and I guess I didnt realize he was two time player of the year.
I thought that was his brother who got it one year and he got it the other.  I saw him play a few times and i didnt see that he was as good as some of those guys mentioned, but numbers dont lie. But hey, thats what this board is for right Pat? Honest mistake dont hold it against me 

I mean i wasnt trying to disrepect his career or anything but the  likes of Jim Conrad, Shawn McCormick, Geron Tate, Bryan Nelson, Jeremy Thompson, even Jesse Duperow. I mean i think the list could go on of players who (in my opinion) had better careers. I just dont think hes one of the top 20 players in the last 10 years across the country, when he wasnt the best in his league...

None the less, great honor for Tori.

Just took a look at the all Decade team....

Jeff Gibbs on second team.. great honor for him, would have hated to see how good the other guy was.

Tori Davis on honorable mention ? Seriously? Not meant to be a knock on Tori but I think I could name at least 25 players in the OAC that have been better than him in the last decade let alone in all of D3. tori was a good player and a great person but i think thats a stretch.

Also - checked out the OAC website and  noticed Otterbein has 5 wins and 3 Players of the week. found that interesting. While, Cap, WILM, and JCU only have one each. ONU and HEID with two each. How is this determined and why would Otterbein have almost as many players of the week as they do wins?

anyone want to talk POY with two weeks left to play in the regular season?
Im looking out there and notice that I think Cap has the two best guards in the league in Ryan Wood and Nate Stahl, both of whom have been sick or injured lately, but they dont have anyone in the top of the individual stats. Does this hurt them for postseason awards? Also I think you have to consider Terry Walsh, Kyle Brown, and even one of the Heid guys such as Lemon, Szalay, or Schimdt.

KB - (WILM comment) Anyone can get up to play a top team esp at home such as WILM vs Cap last week, however those wednesday games can catch you sleeping, litterally. After a day of classes and the WILM to muskie trip isnt the shortest. you have to bring it every night.

Cap's website said Capital was up 40 with 6 minutes to play..... On the road on a wednesday thats not too bad after it being a 3 point game close to half. 

ONU Ott doesnt surprise me, and really BW uypsetting HIED doesnt either. However, JCU was beat at home by MUC and that would be JCU 's 3rd home loss this seaon. Thats really the only shocker here in my opinion. Dont get me wrong MUC is a good team at times but i would expect JCU to defend their home court.  BW is playing decent basketball esp at home right now. Cap up three games with 5 to play, it will be interesting to see if Coach Goodwin can keep his guys focused over the next couple weeks. No doubt in my mind they are a shoe in to win it, but if they let their guard down they might get clipped in the OAC tourny. 

KB - Ive seen Cap and Ott play multiple times this year and its obviously a tale of two teams here in columbus. However, with Cap and Ott both putting up huge numbers against JCU stems from a lack of team defense. Both teams obviously made more 3's than they missed against JCU and some were tough shots but JCU has trouble rotating and sometimes leaves shooters open. They have the athletes to play with the big boys but in bexley they just ran out of gas after a 63-51 first half. I think JCU is still a team that they could make things interesting in the tournament.
My predictions is that Cap will drop another one they shouldnt but still win the league. The tournament will be at Capital but Look for HIED, WILM, ONU, and JCU to put a run together.

I caught the Capital JCU game yesterday and I can tell you that it was a track meet for the first 20 mins. I think there may have been 10 missed shots then entire half with the score being about 63-51 at half. Capital played good D in the second to push the margin out to 113-78 I believe, it was an incredible game to watch. Hard to believe that was the same Cap team that caught caught sleeping at Wilmington on wednesday. Talking to some of the capital fans that went to the WILM game it sounded like a few guys were sick or just out of it on wednesday but whatever it was they figured it out yesterday. WILM is a good athletic team though. It looks like OTT might finally be putting something together with a solid win at Muskie.

Its now a two team race for the regular season title with CAP at 11-1 and HEID at 9-3. I really doubt that CAP drops 4 of the last 6 to give ONU JCU or WILM a shot at it but look out come tourny time. HEID goes on the road down the stretch but they can definitly make this interesting if they take care of business.

One more quick note- Capital Junior Nate Stahl broke 1,000 point mark yesterday with a breakaway and one. What a great career and achievement for a kid who still has 35+ games left to play.

Whats the thoughts on player of the year in the league? Stahl, Lemmon, Walsh, Kyle Brown, or Gehle.... anyone want to throw another name in there? At this point with Cap being the most dominant I would have to give it to stahl. He gets 13 and 5 while being double teamed and trapped allowing others to make big plays. Walsh had 20 in the first half yesterday but seemed to get tired with Capital playing 12 guys and rotating, but he should be thrown in the mix as well. Lemmon is another solid player who leads his team but Im not sure if the consistency has been there to get a POY nod. great player none the less. Kyle Brown is a great player but the team isnt that good and Gehle is having an up and down year as well.

I had a chance to catch most of the Capital Game last night. Capital looked like a good team and were up about 35 or so before they put the reserves in with more than 5 minutes to play. I think it ended up being 25 or something at the end i didnt stick around to watch the end of the game.

In the Capital games Ive caught this year they start hot and then hit cruise control the rest of the way which has let some teams catch up at the end. They might get caught sleeping one of these times.

The new Marietta coach has a nice group of younger players to build around if he can keep them in the program and take their licks for a year or two they might just be able to put something together in year 3.

I believe Capital is the strongest team in the league however it is the OAC and injuries can sneak up on a team and other teams can pull it together in february. Im not ready to give capital the regular season crown but they are a good team.

A 2 game lead is a nice lead at the turn but like i said before its only good if you have one game left. If BW could have pulled that off last night it would be a 3 game lead.

my projections would go:
Cap 16-2, Berg 14-4, JCU 13-5, ONU 12-6, MUSK 11-7,
and the rest Wilm, MTU, BW, OTT, MAR

Ive seen every team play at least once and feel pretty safe with that. Im not sure what the standings are but thats how i think it will shake out at years end.

Its going to be a fantastic last month of basketball thats for sure!

Thanks for the link to the game KB - I didnt think that game was on either schools website as being broadcast. Cap was impressive, however I was still impressed with the way the berg came back. Another note from the game, Just when capital was going to blow it wide open it seemed like the OAC officials made just enough calls to tighten things up a bit and give the berg some easy FT's. Szalay and Wood were two guys trying to will their team to win last night and it was a great game to listen to. Dont be fooled though, Ryan wood has been putting up some big numbers throughout the season as well this shouldnt be unexpected. When teams double Nate Stahl it lets the other cap players step up. I will admit Capital has seemed to play their games at the level of their opponents this season which could come back and bite them on the road at a school later in the year when they shouldnt lose. The Berg must have had a packed house there last night even the radio background crowd was loud.

two quick notes - A 2 game in OAC is never safe (unless there is only one game left to play) and with regards to your post DC - MUSK shouldnt be overlooked down the stretch. They may be the most athletic team in the league, just havent been able to put it together early on.