How about we talk about some HCAC football now. since week 1 is now here. Predictions for opening week? any upsets on the prowl? here are mine:
MSJ over Wilmington 35-6
Manchester over Trine- 21-17
Franklin over BW 28-10
Centre over Hanover 24-13
Defiance over Musk 31-21
Rose-Hulman over Earlham 14-10
Alma over Bluffton
Anderson over Taylor

Thoughts? Look for MSJ defense to rock the HCAC this season. they have the 2 best corners along with future all american Alex Harbin at DE. Linebackers are solid as well as the rest of the Dline. MSJ Offense should be led by returning QB vinny palmer again as well as a solid group of wideouts and 3 deep at running back. Look for Frankin to have a loss to Butler after week 2 and MSJ will take the HCAC crown with a victory over them on homecoming! GO LIONS!!!

your right, trading him before June 1st wouldn't count on the cap THIS season. Regardless it would be an 8 Mil cap hit this year or next year! Bad Business. The problem with the Bengals is they don't have ANY locker room leaders. Carson is not the most outspoken guy and TJ leads more by example. Willie is a quiet guy as well. They don't have any true leaders that say to the younger guys or anybody to cut the Sh**. A lot of the reason Chris Henry was the way he was, was because he didn't have a true mentor at the WR position or anywhere on the team to teach him how to be a Professional! I can guarantee you that if Jerry Rice, Chris Carter, Tim Brown or any of those breed of wide receivers were on the team then Chris Henry would still be on the roster.

Chad is making a joke out of himself. But i do agree with him that what he is getting paid is ludicrous compared to where he should be paid. He will make 2.75 Million this year, yeah to us that is great but when people like TO, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, Reggie Wayne etc... are making 8 plus Million a year, i would be upset too. Chad has been one of the most Consistant WRs in the NFL the past 6-7 years. The way he has approached all this is wrong though.

Dont forget though, Winning Cures everything!

First off, releasing CH further solidifies that Chad Johnson isnt going anywhere. second, He is not worth to trade, it would be bad business if we did. The Bengals would take a 8 Million dollar cap hit alone by trading Chad. and With that, you cant build the defense more. Yeah you might gain a draft pick or two but with draft picks, you never really know what you will get. They could be good or they could be bad. Its Hit or miss.

Dont forget, Chris Henry and Pacman were teammates at WVU, they come from the same breed. Also, don't look for any team to be giving CH another chance anytime soon. Godell said that he gets no more second chances, He has already been suspended 10 games in his career. He will face and indefinite suspension. I applaud Mike Brown and the Bengals organization for taking such quick actions with him. He didn't deserve to wear that uniform or be call a "Professional" Athlete.

Look for the Bengals to address the WR position earlier in the draft now. I would be surprised if they didn't take a WR with one of their two 3rd round picks.

I was saying the competition will be interesting to watch in the HCAC. Should make for a great season. I am Bias towards MSJ but i do love watching them compete and bust their butts for 60 min against a worthy opponent.

All American or not, should help the team.

I'm not disagreeing with you! I feel the same way! I'm sure he will leave it all and come into MSJ with a good attitude. We will see. As for me I was just saying what I saw.

Yeah I saw that as well, one blowup is bound to happen in the course of battle. From what I have heard he is a tremendous blocker. I saw his highlight tape. He blocked Boise State starting saftey Marty Tadman into the ground! Should make for an interesting year in the HCAC

I guess his girlfriend lives in Cincinnati. That might be the decision he isnt going to a D1 or 2 school. Heard he was offered out of High school to Akron. Also offered by D2 Chadron State after he left Sacramento. Guess him and his GF are pretty serious then.

It is Mooshegian, I did research on him as well as ask around the coaching staff. He played 2 years at Sacramento State and started at wide receiver. He then left Sacramento State and red shirted this past season. Not sure on the reasons why, family issues maybe. He was going to transfer to Cal Lutheran, a D3 school in southern California after he left Sacramento state but he decided to go to a Junior College and red shirt. He is about 5'11-6foot, 190 LBS, good sized kid with great hands. The only thing I'm worried about is his attitude. If he can come to MSJ and keep his mouth shut and just play and work hard then MSJ is getting a All Conference and maybe ALL AMERICAN WR. He was All conference In the Big Sky as a true freshman. Impressive. We will see how he pans out. I am looking forward to watching him compete at MSJ.

I do know that, thats why i said "can they come in and be players right away, i dont know that" Yes i do know every kid has a highlight tape but the plays i have seen a lot of them make in their highlight tapes are great! With that said, i don't think they are perfect. I know they are HIGHLIGHT tapes for a reason but you still have to make plays am i wrong?


As for MSJ going 7-3, we'll see. I don't think that will happen this year thats for sure. With a strong Offense that puts up points but also controls the game has the best chance to win, and i think MSJ has those traits. Their guarterback Vince Palmer, although undersized is a very productive QB. The running backs are solid and are young. The WR core lost Jones and Burrell but replaced one with the transfer Mooshegian kid. The Oline was solid last season and have beefed up even more this year along with new incoming players will be a strong point on this team.

I think the Defense is fine as MSJ, not the Baltimore Ravens of 2000 but more like the Bengals of 2001. Solid tacklers, big DLine, Solid and good sized linebackers that can move. Like i said DBs will be the weakest link but you never know, if any of the recruits come in and play well it could be one of their strongest positions with the most depth.

With that said, i am very close to the program, i have watched MSJ compete in all sports for years! The football team i play close attention too and with what i have seen they will be a serious D3 contender!!! They have had over 70 guys in there weight room lifting and running for over a month and a half now. These guys are dedicated and ready to get over the hump in the playoffs.

I totally agree with you AW was one hell of a player. I have personally seen the highlight films of the recruiting class this season and all i can say is WOW. will they come in a be players right away? i dont know that. As for the transfer WR, i have seen his highlight tape as well and i dont think he is as fast as AW, probably a 4.6 guy but he has hands that are unbelievable. MSJ will be solid upfront this season on both sides of the ball. The DBs will probably be the weakest link. Id like to see how the other schools in the HCAC matched up recruiting wise. I stand behind my Guarantee. Just watch out. the Lions are going to take the NCAA D3 by storm.

MSJ HCAC CHAMPS!!!! Guaranteed

That video was a joke haha. Price hill girls! you gotta be kidding me. Classic though. Classic...

No i didnt see MSJ new recruiting video, do you have a link?

Are we going to get back to talking football in the HCAC anytime soon?

not upsetting, just wish we could talk some football but i am new and understand you guys know eachother so...