Hey PEP good hearing from you....... FROMAFAR misses the the board.... I'll keep watching, always had a little rooting interest in Stevens when not play RIT..... I think you guys may make the Tourney this year... Yea it looks like Hartwick, Stevens and Naz-- With Fisher and IC battling for #4, but you guys could sneak in.... I think the 4th team makes it with 7 losses.... BUT what???

Hey Bomber I'm still here, and your right Rossi's 17 were inflated.  Just kidding, I am not really following the E-8 that closely since I don't have an AX anymore. Looks Liek Hartwick is tough BUT gets a loss when the league started. IC will be in the mix no matter what their out of league record was. Stevens could be real tough as Smith is at his peak.  They don't look real Deep and that can play into it late in the season. Sheldon Jones does it night after night, Cutri can burn you at any time, and Thompson, plays steady, he's no Greco defensively or has his swagger, but works well with what the coach is looking for. What happened to PEP, I have a bad vibe from some of the posts. Is he OK?

I'll be around now and then----    Love the E-8....BUT WHAT DO I KNOW?

After IC's performance I may be over-rating them a bit....... I laos could be overating Stevens and underating NAZ...IC hasn't played defense ina few years, and they may even be worse this year... They don't have as much fire power as before, they could drop a few pegs. Stevens is not deep, and they play hard D which could cause fould trouble, and without Sabatinio.........what happened to him..I thought he was going to fill in for Franklin and bring Stevens up a notch??
NAZ... I don't know. I didn't like them last year and they are the same.....I know  year older... maybe make the top 4. I think it's Hartwick's to lose....... Good offense adequate defense.... I'll stay with my predictions however. It will be inetersting to see if Rossi has as many assists this year as the last two. He got an assist for every basket in the past, so with less points he drops off..............JUST KIDDING BOMBER GUYS...let's not start that again....remmber What do I know?

Hey guys I'm still around.  I'll bet your all jumping for joy about that. Tigers are elswhere this year and need to concentrate on them, but will keep an eye on E-8.

I'll make some early guessing on e-8 finish... keep in mind WHAT DO I KNOW?

Hartwick
IC
Stevens
Fisher
Naz
Alfred
Utica
Elmira

I am completely out of the loop, but will try to stay on top........ If RIT were in the conference I would put them between Fisher and Naz........  But there not so who cares.........

E8 still has Stevens playing for ecac championship...They only lose one senior Franklin... They should be right there next year as well.......


Signing off boys   have a great summer, maybe on a bit, but RIT moving on and looks like so am I.     The jousting has been fun,

I think this site is unigue in it's members, and no bad mouthing worth speaking of... A lkot respect EXCEPT for losing a couple of karma points........

Have fun, and remember WHAT DO I KNOW   

I went to the Stevens Baruch ECAC game last night....... Very impressed with the Ducks. They could have beaten almost anyone last night..... Baruch is not a bad team, but seems to hang it's head at times. While everyone played well, I give cudos to Thompson. I don't see him often, but when I do he usually looks like he is conservative --within the system-- plays not to make mistakes... I hate that forma point guard--- well last night, while he wasn't the MVP he did look like he wanted to let loose at times and play the game. He was more ascertive and agressive.... The results 6 guys in double figures... Only 5 assists, BUT ALL LEGIT..he needs to continue that. I was dosappointed in the crowd. I don't know how many maybe 150....If they play this way then can make noise in the ECAC and give the E-8 a little swagger......

I am not sure if it is Optimism, or Dillusional.........by the way. there are 8 teams in the ECAC Atlantic Region. I believe that has been constant...not sure though, so don't be hitting on my Karma    

First, my deepest condolences and prayers as well............

So all 3 of us taking a hit on Karma,  it truly is a down year in the E8...

I don't want to jinx our boys, but I am picking IC to get to the sweet sixteen... I'll go from there IF THERE IS A THERE......I just feel after all my talk about a down year.... maybe they go far........ form has meant very little this year. Maybe that works in IC's favor.

Hartwick get's one win..........not bad.......(watch them win it all).........

This is why I love this site.  We all dig deep into reasons why this and why that, then we get the "curse" factor...which I am a believer in .. sort of. We have a great cast of characters here. We are more consistent than the teams...in opur thoughts and philosophy.. That's what keeps me coming back.... I see the Ducks once ahgain in ECAC....playing Baruch AGAIN in ECAC> Talk about curses... I believe Baruch has beaten them 5 or 6 in a row..... Let's see how this curse runs it course........Am I going to lose more KARMA....I being de-KARMA'd rapidly......    

Buck I guess your right, Those teams ranked regionally losing sort of kept the rankings the same.... thus IC was ok..... What would Stevens chance have been had they beat Hartwick........let's say lose the Fisher game?
Bomber987....... I would think IC will play their game. They don't want get into any half court action with the height and shouldn't alter their rotation. Pressuring the guards may not make a difference in that as you stated IC is 370 in steals, will pressure make a difference? I am beginning to learn one thing about E-8 we can look at form all we want, but it doesn't always hold true. I think IC should go at them with their strength.... shoot shoot shoot........ although defense usually gets you through these tourneys, IC has a definite strength and they should use it... let the Cards fall where they may.....too late to change now....

Go BOMBERS, and WICK..... bring some respect back to this conference.... even though I will be elswhere next year.........

Bomber 987... As usual, I should have been clearer. I wouldn't change coaches either and never indict one...Don't want see anyomne lose their job...The point I tried to make is... the players change and results are similar. The only constant being the coach...However in these cases the team is getting into the league tourney which I am sure some of the other e-8 teams would welcome. Sort of like the Buffalo Bills of E-8 basketball... sort of.........I think instead of finding a flaw with IC and Stevens in the e-8 tourney, I should be giving more credit to the winners.

Great Job WICK...make us proud..... SJF your always there one way or the other. I still find it hard to see IC get in NCAA... but what do I know   If they do we have two shots.....

AUKaz00    When your right your right...........

There is absolutely no way Stevens is going to the dance........I wish they were, but thye are in a conference that has not been thought about in the top 25, they never not votes... If they get a bid, I would lobve to know how?  I don't think IC is going.....however it could be justified giving them a bid.........

My thought on IC is, as we all agree, they don't play defense... that can hurt when your opponent does. Fisher plays. They are limited on offense, however the combination of good defense against IC and Fisher taking advantage of that by scoring more than they usually do, did IC in....I don't buy there is a constant between each year and you can point to the same issue every year ( Losing in the first round) The team has a bit of a different make up each year... The only constant is the coaching ----- Ducks and IC -- maybe the coach is the issue, or just maybe the teams beating them have had better night. Whether it's Fisher, Naz, now Hartwick, these schools have done both Stevens iand IC in at crunch time over the last few years Tourney's. Tough to blame one thing.... Hey this conference has shown ALMOST anyone can beat anyone... So when we come to the tourney we all prognosticate.  That's fun, based on whatever mindset we have and criteria. As I sad a few times, the only thing consistant in this league is inconsistancy. That actually makes it more interesting.   IC clearly on the "BUBBLE", and Stevens a 1 seed in ECAC...      

Hey guys, Stevens needs to win the e-8 to get in...AS I BELIEVE IC very may well have to win to get in too.


That's from a post I put in before the tourney....... Bomber 987.... is right.... neither team should go.........this conference took a few steps back this year. While IC is legit, JUST NOT hungry........You could see this Stevens loss coming..They are not GREAT at home, and hey can't score with an IC OR Hartwick if they are on. Their defense is good, Smith is a monster... Jones came from No Where.  way above his head... Cutri has talent but seems to get lost in the game sometimes  Thompson looks like a deer in the head lights, plays not to make mistakes..... Needs to be more gutsy....The bench is young..... They really played above their heads this year.  BUT  

I don't have much to say... under the weather.  I pick IC by about 12, and Wick by 8.........BUT