Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on May 15, 2013, 03:03:08 PM

Quote from: Westside4 on May 15, 2013, 02:55:33 PM
Could be huge down the road: Linfield's Wylie left after the first inning (RBI single). Hopefully he can return and the injury isn't too serious. It is hard to replace 60 RBIs.

Looked like he left after attempting to steal second. Was anybody watching the video feed when that happened?

And impressive showing on the mound and on defense for TLU. Was the lack of offensive production more the product of a great pitcher or weak hitting team? Probably a combination of the two, but we'll have a better idea when they face someone else's number 2 in their win-or-go-home game tomorrow.

Yes I think combination of the two.  Linfield's ace was really good today, and by his numbers I would assume really good almost every outing.  TLU showed well, but just couldn't do much at the plate.

Good first game of the regional.  Linfield's ace, Haddeland was dominant.  TLU's Spillane pitched very well too against a strong Linfield offense.  Spillane got himself into trouble in the first with a lead off walk, and in the second Linfield scored a run on a two out bloop into centerfield.  TLU's centerfielder dove but came up short and the ball skipped into left center to give the hitter a double.  The run would have scored either way.

This was a good game with good defense by both teams.  Linfield took a couple of hits away from TLU in the middle innings, and Haddeland was really good.  He showed great command and had good zip on the fastball with a nice breaking ball.  Spillane really worked the ball to both sides of the plate and commanded what looked like two different breaking balls, although I can't be certain of that.  Once he settled in he was tough and really kept Linfield off balance.

For all the talk of TLU shouldn't be here, I did not get the impression that they weren't a quality team.  I think they played right alongside Linfield, but were just no match for Haddeland.  It looked from the season numbers that TLU likely has the weakest offense at the regional and Linfield has the strongest pitching and that held true today.  I am interested to see if TLU can bounce back tomorrow against what will be another strong team in Trinity or Cal Lutheran.

Linfield has a good looking team.  I can see why they the favorite to win the region.  Good game by both teams.

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 28, 2012, 04:02:35 PM
Any predictions yet for Regionals


SCAC POOL A
SCIAC POOL A
NWC POOL A
ASC POOL A
POOL C
POOL C

It still seems too early to tell.  I think The SCAC is dominated by Birmingham So. and Trinity, but I don't think you can discount Hendrix or Millsaps just yet.

The SCIAC appears as though it is going to come down to Cal Lu and Laverne.  Cal Lu can pitch it and Laverne can hit it.  It will be interesting to see who wins the season series, but there are some other teams still in the mix.

The NWC has been very interesting so far.  I think I'm with BigPoppa, and Linfield will step up to take it, but they certainly need to get going because Pac Lu seems to be back this year.  Plus Whitworth and Pacific are playing well in conference. 

It seems like the ASC favorite probably has to be Concordia.  They can pitch and play defense and seem to score enough runs, but I think it is too early to write off UT-Dallas and their pitching staff as well as Tx Lu.  UT-Tyler has another impressive record, but I'm not sure their schedule has been too tough.  They seem to play a lot of home games against teams without great records, but they can hit it.

Pool C will be interesting as always and certainly someone seemingly deserving of a chance will be left at home.  I think the loser of BSU and Trinity gets a bid, assuming they both continue to win.  So it would seem that Trinity is a lock for the regional should they not have a collapse in the back half of the season.

I think Linfield is a long ways from being out of it.  They are probably very strong again this year, and may have had a couple of tough weekends.  Chapman can't be excluded just yet, but they definitely have work to do to get back in it.

It looks like another interesting year for the west region.

I also think it may have had something to do with the equal competition of the conference.  In any given year it seems as though there are anywhere from 2-4 teams in the ASC that could represent the conference well in a regional, and it just depends on who gets hot, and, or plays best in playoff time.  In 2009, the conference probably had 4 teams all good enough to compete in regionals (not necessarily win but compete), and in 2010 I think it could be said that 3 of the teams were very strong.  Last year UT-Dallas was probably a good enough team to compete in the regionals, but just didn't have a strong enough resume, I suppose.  The same might be said for Hardin-Simmons who had a good team.  Both had good pitching staffs. I'm not sure that the ASC playoff format has ever hurt any teams; if anything it prepares them for a difficult regional tourney.  The tough part is that there always seems to be a couple of teams that are quality teams, but are not quite good enough to get into the regional because they may have too many losses along the way.  I'm pretty sure that the ASC has not produced the best teams in the region especially considering what Chapman and Linfield have done, but I think a pretty strong argument could be made that it is the deepest conference in the region almost always possessing 2-4 teams that are probably capable of competing in the regional tournament and representing the conference well.

1. UT-Tyler 21-0, 19-0 (in region)
2. Linfield 14-4, 12-1 (in region)
3. Trinity 21-5, 16-5 (in region)
4. Hardin-Simmons 17-5, 13-5 (in region)
5. Redlands 15-6, 10-3 (in region)
6. Pomona-Pitzer 17-6, 14-6 (in region)
7. George Fox 14-5, 9-4 (in region)
8. Cal Lutheran 15-7, 11-5 (in region)
9. Texas Lutheran 15-9, 13-6 (in region)
10. Concordia Texas 13-9, 13-7 (in region)
11. Chapman 16-5, 9-5 (in region)
12. University of Dallas 16-6, 9-5 (in region)
13. La Verne 13-10, 12-8 (in region)

The West Region Rankings are going to be shaken up after this past weekend.

In:
1. Chapman - good record good schedule
2. Pomona Pitzer - winner of SCIAC
3. Linfield - winner of NWC
4. Trinity - winner of SCAC
5. winner of ASC tournament
6. Pool C

Here is the interesting stuff:

Pac Lutheran 23-10 (in region)
1-3 vs. Linfield, 2-0 vs Cal Lutheran and LaVerne,  2-1 vs. George Fox - may have played themselves out with the Linfield sweep.

The Redlands 23-9 (in region)
2-2 vs. Pomona, 3-1 vs. Cal Lutheran, 3-1 vs. LaVerne - their weekend likely depends on how they do vs. Champan.  If they win the series, I think they get the bid.  That is a big if.  Even if they only win 1 they might still get in.

Mississippi College 30-4 (in region)
If this team does not win, I think they are still in, but regardless of victory will likely play in a different regional.  This still leaves two spots open if this happens.

Texas Lutheran 28-11 (in region)
2-0 vs. UT-Tyler, 0-2 vs. Trinity, 2-0 vs. UT-Dallas - not sure how this team gets an at-large with 2 more losses.  They may have to win it all and the ASC has only received one at-large ever.

UT-Tyler 28-9 (in region)
if they get to the championship game, maybe.  But losses to TLU and UMHB and Miss. Coll. may hurt in the long run.

Much depends on the results of the ASC this weekend and the Redlands vs. Chapman series.  My guess is one of the west coast teams gets in before a Texas team.  Who knows, maybe this year the west regional gets another spot.  If Miss. Coll. wins it and two bids are open then it would probably be the two west coast teams. 

I don't know what will happen, but history tells us the west coast teams will get the bids.

When I look at those records and all those teams, it disappoints so much that there is not likely going to be an 8 team west regional.  I am going on recent history.  It seems as though 3 or 4 very good teams will be left at home once again.

SCIAC - Pomona Pitzer and Redlands - playing each other this weekend
ASC - UT-Tyler, Mississippi College, and Texas Lutheran all have strong records
NWC - Pac. Lutheran, Linfield, and George Fox (getting hot)
SCAC - Trinity is the only one in this region but they have Brimingham So., Millsaps, and Rhodes to compete with - so their road is difficult
IND - Chapman of course is strong again

That makes 10 teams in the west region that are all playing well, and traditionally only 6 will make the west region. That leaves four pretty good teams without a shot.  Anyone think there is a chance of an 8 team regional since one of each in the ASC and NWC will likely play themselves out of it?  What about getting shipped to another region?

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 06, 2010, 05:11:38 AM
NCBWA/D3baseball.com Top 25 Week 6, 2010
West Region teams listed
http://www.d3baseball.com/top25/2010/week-6
Rk School (first)                 Last  Rec.     Pts
2  Chapman                        3     20-4     590
5  Pomona-Pitzer                  7     23-5     504
11 Mississippi College            10    24-4     347
17 Redlands                       23    24-3     191
25 Trinity (Texas)                24    23-7      72

Also receiving votes:  Pacific Lutheran 58, Texas-Tyler 37, Linfield 5,

ABCA POLL WEST REGION TEAMS APRIL 6, 2010
Rank School Record Points Last Rank
http://www.muhlenberg.edu/pdf/main/athletics/abcapoll4610.pdf
2. Chapman (Calif.) 20-4 232 2
5. Mississippi College 24-4 196 4
7. Redlands (Calif.) 24-3 185 9
8. Pomona-Pitzer (Calif.) 23-5 184 12
20. Linfield (Ore.) 18-7 82 17
21. Trinity (Texas) 23-7 69 24
24. Texas-Tyler 23-7 54 30

Also receiving votes George Fox (Ore.),Texas Lutheran

you missed Pac Lutheran in at 17

Yes, Miss. College correction is correct.

If all of those teams are within the 200 mile radius then they are 18-2.  They are off to a fantastic start.

Let's open up the discussion since most teams in the west have surpassed the midway point.  Parenthesis around in-region record.  Brackets around opponents overall record.

1. Chapman 17-4 (13-1)
    2-1 vs. Pomona [17-5]
    3-0 vs. McMurry [9-13]
    1-0 vs. CMS [12-10]   
Still to play
    1 vs. CMS
    1 vs. La Verne [13-8]
    1 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
    4 vs. Linfield [16-5]
    3 vs. Redlands [18-3]

2. Mississippi College 19-3 (14-1) - if Piedmont and Birmingham Southern are within the 200 mile radius to count as in-region other wise (11-1)
    1-0 vs. Millsaps [16-6] - within radius
    1-0 vs. Birmingham Souther [16-3]
    1-1 vs. UT-Dallas [13-7]
Still to play
    1 vs. Millsaps - 2 assuming they make up the rainout
    3 vs. UT-Tyler [16-7]

3. Pomona-Pitzer 17-5 (15-3)
    1-2 vs. Chapman
    3-0 vs. La Verne [13-8]
    2-1 vs. CMS [12-10]
Still to play
    4 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
    4 vs. Redlands [18-3]
    1 vs. La Verne
    1 vs. CMS

4. Linfield 16-5 (14-2)
    1-0 vs. La Verne [13-8]
    1-0 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
    0-1 vs. Pac Lutheran [14-5]
Still to play
    4 vs. Chapman [17-4]
    3 vs. George Fox [12-9]
    3 vs. Pac Lutheran

5. Redlands 18-3 (13-3)
    2-1 vs. CMS [12-10]
    2-1 vs. La Verne [13-8]
    3-0 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
    0-1 vs. Menlo [10-11]
    1-0 vs. Puget Sound [9-10]
Still to play
    4 vs. Pomona [17-5]
    1 vs. Cal Lutheran
    3 vs. Chapman [17-4]

6. Trinity 19-5 (15-4)
    2-1 vs. Schreiner [3-16]
    1-0 vs. Tx Lutheran [17-6]
    3-0 vs. Austin [11-11]
    3-0 vs. Southwestern [10-17]
    1-1 vs. Millsaps [16-6] - assuming this counts as in-region
    1-0 vs. Hardin-Simmons [10-10]
    0-2 vs. Hendrix [9-12]
Still to play
    1 vs. Tx Lutheran
    3 vs. Millsaps
    2 vs. Austin

7. Texas Lutheran 17-6 (14-6)
    2-1 vs. Austin [11-11]
    2-0 vs. Southwestern [10-17]
    2-0 vs. UT-Tyler [16-7]
    1-2 vs. U of Dallas [5-16]
    0-1 vs. Trinity [19-5]
    2-1 vs. McMurry [9-13]
    2-1 vs. Howard Payne [11-10]
Still to play
    1 vs. Trinity
    1 vs. Southwestern
    3 vs. UMHB [11-11]
    3 vs. Hardin-Simmons [10-10]
    3 vs. Sul Ross [12-8]

8. UT-Tyler 16-7 (14-6)
    0-2 vs. UMHB [11-11]
    0-2 vs. Tx Lutheran [17-6]
    1-0 vs. UT-Dallas [13-7]
    2-1 vs. Hardin-Simmons [10-10]
    2-1 vs. Sul Ross [12-8]
    2-0 vs. Hendrix [9-12]
Still to play
    3 vs. UT-Dallas
    3 vs. Miss. College [19-3]
    2 vs. Austin [11-11]

9. Pacific Lutheran 14-5 (10-5)
    2-1 vs. George Fox [12-9]
    1-0 vs. Linfield [16-5]
    0-3 vs. Menlo [10-11]
    0-1 vs. Puget Sound [9-10]
    1-0 vs. La Verne [13-8]
    1-0 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
Still to play
    3 vs. Linfield

10. La Verne 13-8 (12-7)
    0-1 vs Linfield [16-5]
    0-1 vs. Pac Lutheran [14-5]
    1-2 vs. Redlands [18-3]
    1-0 vs. George Fox [12-9]
    0-3 vs. Pomona [17-5]
    1-0 vs. CMS [12-10]
Still to play
    4 vs. CMS
    4 vs. Cal Lutheran [14-9]
    1 vs. Pomona
    1 vs. Redlands

11. Cal Lutheran
12. UT-Dallas

It is tight as usual in the west region.  It appears as though those teams 7 and down have some games that they can look back at as games they maybe should have won, or they picked a bad time for a bad weekend.  There is much yet to be determined.  We should have a pretty clear lock on the NWC after Linfield plays George Fox.  It should come down to the winner of the Pac Lu series unless George Fox gets hot.  The SCIAC looks as though Redlands will have to beat Pomona.  A split will not due, or one of them will have to slip up along the way, which is very possible.  Too bad those two conferences do not play tournaments because they seem as though they would be very competitive amongst the top 3 to four teams.  Trinity could very well be up for a bid if they were to miss the championship.  Looks as though the ASC will have to be won depending on how well Miss College finishes, or if Tx. Lutheran or UT-Tyler could finish very hot down the stretch.  Otherwise, they had better win it all.

Feel free to correct any mistakes made.

I agree with Ralph here.  It seems that in that conference even the top teams get into the playoffs with anywhere from 8-10 losses.  By the time they battle their way through the two rounds they may have accumulated 12 losses which could drop them below other schools who simply did not have to play as many games in their playoff round.

It seems tough and possibly unfair, but I think the conference is the one that determines their playoff style.  Correct me if I am wrong.  Also, what is the playoff style for other conferences?  I know the SCAC does a tournament.  I also know that the NWC does not play one, which is disappointing considering how even Pac Lu, George Fox, and Linfield are year in and year out.  Those could be exciting tourneys.  What does the SCIAC do?

I agree.  I don't know much about Mississppi, but they sure have gotten much better really fast.  Although, I don't know that they were ever down for very long, they always seem to be in the mix when it comes postseason time.

Quote from: dp643 on April 16, 2009, 04:48:54 PM
Like I have said before, the Concordia fans will come out of the woodwork when they win a series.

If you had been paying attention all year baseballfan, you would have noticed that UMHB beat both HSU and McMurry 2 out of 3 earlier in conference play.

Now I know they got swept this past weekend by your beloved CTX team, but that shouldnt take away from what they have accomplished this year. Should they be ranked 30? Probably not. But that doesnt mean that they have played a soft schedule, or shouldnt be given any credit this year.

They have played very well in my opinion for a young team. They have dealt played a majority of the schedule this year with 5 freshman in the starting lineup, hence the inconsistency at times. I would be much more alarmed if they were playing this inconsistent with a team loaded up with Juniors and Seniors like some other teams in this conference that have struggled this year.

This is all just my opinion of course.

Like you said before, the Concordia fans will come out after one good weekend.  I could not agree with you more, but I am not one of those fans.  I don't cheer for Concordia, I am just a bystander, and a fan of baseball.  I try to remain completely objective in commenting on teams.

In my opinion, I do not think UMHB is accurately ranked.  They are 19-15.  I made no comment on their players or their experience, only on the fact that their record is not as good as the teams ahead of them. 

Perhaps I wasn't completely clear in my previous post.  I do not think that The Southwest Assemblies of God is a talented team.  Playing them twice is the same as playing Castleton State.  I think UMHB has plenty of talent. And they are a young team.  They can hit and pitch pretty well, and play solid defense at times.  There is nothing wrong with UMHB, and I have no personal bias against them.  I simply do not think that they are accurately ranked according to Boyd.

Sorry for your confusion.  I will certainly be sure to better attention to what I write so that you do not get confused as to who is cheering for who.

Quote from: TexasBB on April 16, 2009, 01:56:43 PM

Quote from: royhobbs on April 16, 2009, 10:46:09 AM
Texas BB- How's CTX's pitching compare to UTT's? Hard for me to tell about UTT, only seen them against weaker teams.

The State rankings from the ASC website going into this weekend for pitching are as follows (top 5):

All Games                          Conference Only
UTT       3.67                      UTT       3.80     
UMHB    4.66                      TLU       3.87
CTX       5.01                      UMHB    3.91
TLU       5.17                       CTX      4.05
MCM     5.66                       UTD      4.26


Much has been said without support that UTT played a weak shcedule. According to Boyds World UTT has the 21st toughest schedule out of over 250 DIII teams here is how the top 5 ranked schools of the ASC are listed.

http://www.boydsworld.com/baseball/isr/d3_isr.html


UTT    Rank 4      SOS 21
HSU   Rank 24    SOS 24
UMHB Rank 30    SOS 19
TLU    Rank 37    SOS 40
McM   Rank 49    SOS 12

UTT won 6 out of 8 from the other top 4 ranked ASC teams (swept 3 form UMHB swept 2 from HSU and lost 2 out of 3 to McM) The also lost to Concordia at the begining of the season but their record against the West is a respectible 6-3.

I can't understand why Boyd would have UMHB ahead of TLU or McMurry.  That doesn't make much sense to me.  UMHB played the southwest assemblies of god twice this year.  That team is not very talented.  They have a worse record than both TLU and McMurry, and I don't believe they play a tougher schedule.  I don't know how much stock I put into Boyd's World.  Just my opinion.

Quote from: TexasBB on April 15, 2009, 04:42:02 PM
Ok it is time for sticking my kneck out and make predictions for the final weekend.

In the West I am predicting a 3 way tie for the best record at 15-6.
McM sweeps Sul Ross
HSU takes 2 out of 3 from TLU (like HSU with home cooking)
MHB takes 2 out of 3 from HPU

HSU wins top seed with tie breakers over McM and TLU
McM is second seed with tiebreaker over TLU
TLU third seed
MHB 4th Seed

In the East
UTT takes 2 out of 3 from MC

UTT wins top seed
MC is second seed
UTD is third
Ozarks (bye week) is 4th

I will waite and see how I pan out with my pics before predicting the playoffs.

maybe Tyler is so good at home because of their home cooking