Bard College splits with UR, giving Bard first ever Liberty League win!

Quote from: airball55 on February 17, 2013, 12:29:19 PM
I wouldn't sleep on Clarkson.  They lost two really good players, but, that was it.  They should pitch just fine and that trip is always a tough one.  I can't put Rochester up there yet, they have to prove it.  I agree with Union and Vassar as well on the improve.  Top to bottom, this league is very deep, it isn't like it used to be (early 2000's) with RPI, Clarkson and Skidmore, then pretty much everyone else.  St. Lawrence will be good.  I can see Rochester improving, new field, etc.. they just haven't been able to get over the hump, but, they do have a very good number one arm.  I am a bit surprised that RIT struggles as much as they do.. but I too see them at the bottom.  When does Bard come in?  Do they even have baseball?

Bard has a team that will join the Liberty League next season.  Coach played and coached at UR and just won the first 2 games played since 1937.  I think it will be a while before they will be competing at a high level in the Liberty League.  Starting a program from the ground up, they don't yet have a home field on campus, supposed to be built sometime this year?  The league is growing, which is always a good sign.

Quote from: Truthfinder on May 02, 2010, 07:26:12 PM

Quote from: trider400t on May 02, 2010, 07:18:19 PM
I'd be worried more about RPI. They know how to win in the Liberty Tournament. Rochester has been the biggest bust in tournament play over the past three years.

RPI has won one of the last five tournaments, right?

2009 - Clarkson
2008 - RPI
2007 - Skidmore
2006 - St. Lawrence
2005 - Skidmore
2004 - UCAA League

Quote from: nyy2344nyy on May 02, 2010, 07:06:59 PM

Quote from: Truthfinder on May 02, 2010, 07:02:33 PM

Quote from: spectator123 on May 02, 2010, 06:57:16 PM
I wonder if it could turn out that Rochester and Clarkson might have to play the game...the timing could be a problem. We wouldn't know until Sunday night.

I foresee no way that happens. The conference has never taken that step, I don't think.

But who knows.

I don't think that it would be necessary, because no matter the outcome Rochester would host.  May be an issue if Clarkson is on the outside looking in after next weekend!

Does anyone know what the tiebreaker scenarios are?

Quote from: Truthfinder on May 02, 2010, 07:02:33 PM

Quote from: spectator123 on May 02, 2010, 06:57:16 PM
I wonder if it could turn out that Rochester and Clarkson might have to play the game...the timing could be a problem. We wouldn't know until Sunday night.

I foresee no way that happens. The conference has never taken that step, I don't think.

But who knows.

I don't think that it would be necessary, because no matter the outcome Rochester would host.  May be an issue if Clarkson is on the outside looking in after next weekend!

Quote from: Truthfinder on May 02, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
So if my math is correct ...

-- Rochester clinches the regular-season title.
-- Skidmore clinches a berth in the tournament, since Clarkson, SLU and RPI all can't get to 14 wins.
-- And everything else is an absolute mess, especially with Clarkson now holding a half-game edge over SLU and RPI.

This is going to be a hell of a weekend coming up.

IF and its a big IF, RPI beats Skidmore 4-0 next weekend, and either Clarkson or St. Lawrence also sweep, Skidmore could be mathematically eliminated.  Not very likely....

So, 3 teams fighting for the last 2 spots is the most likely scenario!

Quote from: URFlorida on May 02, 2010, 06:34:57 PM

Well that's why we play the games ... if it were that easy to predict the outcomes, there would be no need to play the games.  I have to "reluctantly" agree ... until Rochester wins games when it counts, they are "just" a good team.  In order to claim "greatness" ... we have to win some playoff games.  ps: I'm "certain" that we will turn some heads this year in the playoffs ... and for years to come (but that's just my prediction). 

A good comeback weekend for UR after the Skidmore debacle and now they get to host the conference tournament.  A definate advantage, while the other 4 top teams battle it out in the last conference weekend for the final 3 spots.  Should be a great weekend to watch.

UR has been moving forward over the past few years and if they can get over the end of year and conference tournament issues over the past few years, they may continue on the path to becoming one of the teams others talk about in the NY Region!

Does anyone know why the tournament was 3 games on Friday last year @ Rochester and 3 games on Saturday this year @ RPI?  Is it up to the host team?  Are there any advantages to which day has 3 games?  I think that last year RPI won 2 on Friday, had Saturday off and then beat St. Lawrence in the first game on Sunday.  I guess that with the 3 games on Saturday nobody will have an off day!

Quote from: tripleplay9 on May 03, 2009, 11:43:09 PM

Quote from: scuba16 on May 03, 2009, 09:11:53 PM

Regional predictions anyone???

When will the field be set?

I believe the field will be set next Sunday night after all of the conference tournaments end and the Pool B and C teams are selected by the committee.

Quote from: BaseB13 on May 03, 2009, 09:19:48 PM
So looks like RPI vs. Skidmore and Rochester vs. Clarkson to start the tournament off.. Anyone know how Rochester was able to play 41 games in the regular season?  This maybe because part of their schedule is the UAAs?

This is how I understand it to be:

The UAA tournament - 6 games - as an in season tournament, does not count in to the total games played from an NCAA perspective, so 41 - 6 = 35, saving 5 games for the LL tournament, which is the most a team could possibly play, if coming out of the losers bracket to win the first game on Sunday and play again for the championship, for a grand total of 40.

Surprisingly, UR was able to get all of their games in despite the upstate NY weather.  Some were rescheduled, but all were played!

Can anyone confirm this to be true?

Thanks!

Rochester beats St. John Fisher on Friday night to set the single season UR record for wins with a 30 - 11 record. 

Liberty League Tournament playoff spots # 3 and # 4 go down to the last day of the season for Skidmore, Clarkson, and St. Lawrence.  Just doesn't get any better than that!

Boomer - yeah it was me!!!!   I hope someone can help me understand what the rules are regarding fall ball games.  Apparently, a school scheduled 2 different teams on successive weekends and then cancelled the 2nd weekend on the morning of the game due to "weather"

In reality as I have been lead to believe, the 2nd weekend would have counted against their spring record had it been played.  Is this true???

The worst part is that one team did not get to play a fall ball game due to another teams actions.  Kinda sad if you ask me - I know, you didn't!!

If the coach would have been up front about his plans/intentions, perhaps the team that did not get to play could have made other arrangements.  I did hear from a college student at the school in question, that the weather was great all day long, and they couldn't understand why the game wasn't played.

Something fishy, if you know what I mean.

Anyway, putting that behind us, I can't wait for spring!!!

See you at the ballpark!

UR will have a tough time replacing Pete - he was a workhorse and the "ACE" of the staff last year!!  The pitching staff will have to step up this year to continue moving this program forward - they are certainly capable and as we all know - it all comes down to pitching!!!

Boomer - see you in Olean - Big Ed

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 03, 2008, 08:33:50 PM

Quote from: pudge27 on May 03, 2008, 07:06:39 PM
I think that this issue is getting a bit old.  There are good points on both sides.  I hadn't realized the discrepancy in number of teams in the NE Region vs. NY.  On the flip side, it seems strange to weigh the in region games so heavily and then bring in an outside team.  It's almost like the term region is a firm institution during the course of the year, but "fluid" when it needs to be at the end of the season. ...

If you will notice the Official Website, the NCAA now titles the regional brackets by the location, and not the evaluation region which predominates.  The Selection Committee is trying its best to maintain the regional emphasis that is the core of D-III, while trying to balance equal access for every member and yet have enough at-large teams (Pool C bids) to pick up the "best-of-the-rest".

Can anyone explain how the NCAA decides how many teams get into each regional?  What is the criteria for a region having 8 teams and not 6, or vice versa??