Quote from: njac08 on May 24, 2008, 03:38:44 PM
The real list is out.  Thank you ABCA.

The way I understand it, the ABCA only looks at first team all-region selections to make their All-American squad, so if you are a player, who by politics, doesn't make his all-conference squad, therefore making him not make his all-region squad, he is not eligible for consideration of All-American status. Sounds like the real list to me, only having about 100 players ever have a chance at being an All-American. Think this doesn't occur? I believe this happened to a player from the ASC last year.

 

Quote from: Billy 40 on May 12, 2008, 03:07:04 PM

Yet there isn't a single one with comparable numbers to David.  Ergo....

If I could give karma points I would, good point Billy

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2008, 08:20:55 PM
Why do the majors play 162 games!  Because it takes that much time to determine a champion.  The only reason we have playoffs now is the big TV bucks.  For about one-hundred years, baseball had a "pennant race" to determine the champion.  If you had the American Association and the National League, you did not even get a "World Series" for a quarter of a century.

sounds, that is the ASC!

I think you bring a good point, but I would counter with the notion that maybe the game has been upgraded and MLB has realized that even the long season, the best team still needs to prove itself through Playoffs, and thats why they have added Wild Cards etc.

Look at previous World Series Champs:
07 Boston   - Best Record AL (suits your argument)
06 St. Louis - WILD CARD - Barely won 80 regular season games (my argument)
05 Chicago - Won division but not best record (mine??)
04 Boston - WILD CARD
03 Florida - WILD CARD
02 Anaheim - WILD CARD
01 Arizona - WILD CARD
97 Florida - WILD CARD

6 of the last 11 World Series Champs have been Wild Cards, which I think prove it's proving you are deserving of playoffs over the long haul, then turning it on at the right time to win a championship.

Cosmic, your argument is flawed....

Derek David is not just in scoring position 20% of the time, he is scoring EVERYBODY including himself 14% of the time. Let's just project Derek David's numbers if he had a big league season..... Oh yeah in baseball you don't project numbers at the end of the season; they numbers are what they are!

Youchaks is stealing bases because 94% of the time he still has bases to steal. Even if he stole third on ten of his doubles, then stole home 10 times following that (accounting for his 20 stolen bases), that would put him as 8 real home runs, and for the sake of the argument, 10 more home runs, giving him 18. He now is left with 1 triple and 7 doubles...... still not matching David's 26, 0, 11. And I didn't even alter David's numbers, his speak for themselves.

The game has changed since I last played but last I checked....

It was always hard to steal a base when you are hitting a home run.

Why do you steal when you have the all time conference career home run leader hitting behind you?

Those guys do not have to steal, they are in scoring position when they step into the box.

UTT schedule...as mentioned:                                McM's tough schedule:
Hendrix                               3                                 Hendrix                          0
Sull Ross                             2                                    "                                  3
Schriener                            3                                    "                                  3
Jarvis Christian                   1                                    "                                  0
Austin College                     3                                   "                                  3
and I will throw in ETBU      3                                    "                                 3
Total vs weak teams:         16                                                                     12

Did those 4 games make the difference? Two weeks ago I would have said no the tough early schedule for McM did not make a difference because they couldn't win the series against Sull Ross in Alpine.

Baseball is about being consistent over the long haul, but getting hot at the right time. McM picked it up at the right time and won a conference championship. UTT got cold at the wrong time and showed they are like everyone else: beatable.

 Easy fellas....

Hey U, players and players parent's do not have control over what games they played. Did you schedule Chapman? Is U for Life really Coach Driggers? I dont think so, so ease up on UTT they had a heck of a season, just an unfortunate ending....

UTT players and parents, learn a lesson from the CTX/CUA fans you have blasted all year. Those fans talked up their team, tried to get attention, then tried to back it up and I believe did back it up. They are now in the same boat just hoping for a bid. Yet they aren't crying on here about how they've been screwed by the NCAA. Just sit back and see if you are awarded a bid, you cannot control the system no matter how much you gripe.

 I forgot when the MLB hands out the Most Valuable player the guy has to be five tools like A-Rod was in Texas when he used to steal less than 10 bags a 162 game season and win the MVP... We are talking about the D3 player of the Year, you give me one coach from one of the teams on the regional ranking list who says he can find a player he would rather pitch around than Derek David. Oh so-and-so is hitting .500? You didn't even give a freaking name and we don't know who he is. I say Derek David you say 26 home runs. You know the guy. You know the guy cause he's the best player in D3. End of Story. Vote your guy for all-american cause that's the only award he's got a shot at.

I'm sorry I forgot to mention why I say they have no chance if the West only has one pool B team (Chapman), the reasoning for this is now Cal State East Bay will be in the mix trying to get a pool C, and if they are trying to get a pool C then CTX has a slim chance and UTT's chances would surely deminsh.

Quote from: atl7 on May 08, 2008, 05:11:07 PM

Quote from: tiger_fan2000 on May 08, 2008, 04:04:11 PM
How does a record of 33-9 in region put you not ranked.....I dont understand it.  I wonder if Coach Vilade made some people mad.....

Didnt he go 37-3 at UDallas and not get a bid either.......

idk i think d-3 does not understand how to rank teams...McMurry is #2 in the region now how is that possible they have the worst in region record of all the teams ranked and the one team that is not ranked now UTT
wow they won the tourny but i just dont see how they can jump that high those games were homes games for them as well....i still think UTT will get into a regional a top 15/10 ten team in the nation plus a divison champion just cant be sitting at home during the post season that is just not logical at all and it would be obivous that the playoffs did not have the best teams in the nation fighting for a chance to play in the college WS....and it would be offical that Division 3 baseball is a joke and the D3 committee are a bunch of fools who dont understand baseball

Keep in mind last year was the first year the ASC had both division winners in the West Regional, and it will be hard to give the bid to UTT over CTX after they beat UTT twice down the stretch. Will three teams get in? I think it would be great for the ASC and I hope to watch all three of them in it, but I dont see that happening. I do not know how many pool B bids there are, but if Chapman is the only team to be granted one from the West then UTT has no chance. They already have a slim chance with George Fox being the first team on the list for a pool C and Concordia will have to see if they get one. Either way Sunday will be interesting but I have a feeling UTT will be playing Nintendo baseball with me while those other teams are getting ready to play.

and 4) it was mentioned that in the first round of playoffs, the East won 6 games to the West' 4. Check out the ASC tourny, the West won 3 to the East 0.

 A few points from past posts....
1) TexasBB said UTT should have realized that more than four pitchers would be needed to win the conference tournament. McMurry only used 5 and one of those came into a game winning 10-2. TLU only used five pitchers last year to win the ASC. Pitching depth is great, a team like HSU had many guys they were comfortable with bringing in at any period in time, but I think I would still choose three proven ACES and one STOPPER in the bullpen, where as HSU had two STOPPERS then some quality guys.
2) I do believe Chapman is beatable, but it will have to be a grind it out, leave everything on the field effort. Kitchens has only lost 2 games in the last two years... but one of them was to MCM 5-1, and I believe MCM was in position to sweep Chapman this year, but showed up thinking they were playing 7 inning games because they lost two in the last  two innings.
3) I believe HSUID was trying to state how much balance the conference had when he said you take the top four teams from the West and mix them with the top three from the East and anything could happen any week. I disagree, MC just figured out how to win about 4 or 5 weeks ago, and in these five weeks they were beat by the good teams they played (lost two of three at home to UTT and two and out in the tournament). UTT in a different week? Maybe but I still stand by they would have to figure out how to beat MCM and CTX, not the other way around. MCM has quality front in guys, and CTX are good enough to give their powerful offense a chance to win the game. UTT relies solely upon their pitching, they simply do not have enough weapons (speed and power) to be an offensive juggernaut against good teams. UMHB, they might have a month and a half ago, but they have been terrible down the stretch the last two years. I guess after they win a few games and get some ink in the D3 poll they would rather sit at home reading about it rather than practice and keep improving. Better luck next year.

From what I saw this weekend and in the past, McMurry and Concordia were hands down the best teams in the ASC. Maybe I just saw McM on good weekends, not Sull Ross weekends, and maybe CTX is really the team to beat? Good question, but McM took 4 out of 5 games against CTX, two at home and two on the road. The nod goes to McM, but a very quality team hanging out in their shadows.

 Well I was proven wrong, I thought that the tides were turning and the East was stronger than the West, I was wrong. UT Tyler was twice beaten by Concordia, and Mississippi was easily handled by McMurry. The West is still stronger....
How quickly the coach is at fault for the losses. How can you blame a coach for throwing pitchers of record 11-0, 10-0, then a guy who was Pre-Season Pitcher of the Year? If he didn't throw those guys, I can't imagine the beating you would give the coach then. Here's the deal I was convinced of this weekend, UT Tyler is not the team they were made out to be by their numbers. I looked at their schedule, they went 10-7 against teams that were in the playoff mix with records better than .500. That's not good. They have impressive numbers, but they must have accumulated those numbers while going 26-2 against sub-par teams. They didn't have the raw power to get into a slugfest with Concordia, they didn't have the speed to put pressure on the pitchers when hits were hard to come by, and the two at the top of the line-up just never quite hit at their capabilities, which drastically changed the value of their offense. When two struggle, others must step up and make up the difference. If that is too much to ask, you are not a championship team. Period.
Wow Concordia is good. They played with enormous passion, and bless their coach. If they do not leap-frog UT Tyler, something is wrong. Hopefully they might get an at-large bid, they are a deserving team.
Hats off to McMurry. Overcame many injuries along the way to your conference championship. Good thing Sull Ross wasn't in the tournament.... I hear they wont be in the regional either so good luck boys

getting back to the rain out possibility, I am about 60-70% sure (meaning not that sure) that I have heard the higher seed takes the series if the weekend is rained out, no make-ups during the week, just the higher seed gets the nod. I would guess this would not apply, however, it the lower seed wins game 1 and games two & three were rained out...

I keep reading that the West is stronger, but is that truly the case? I played in the West once upon a time, would argue then that that statement is true, but is it now? In the cross over series, EARLY IN THE SEASON, 7 series were won by EAST teams and seven won by the WEST. I do not believe the argument that the West has struggled down the stretch do to more balance.... Did UTT not just take down MC two games two one in the season finale? MCM was down in Alpine and lost the series to a team who had one win in all of conference...

About MCM, I did read their write up about the ASC playoffs and it says Voorhees played (says he went hitless but hit three balls hard, box score says one hit one rbi??). It says Yurchick is questionable; I saw MCM in two series this year (HSU and UMHB), Yurchick made a night and day difference defensibly for MCM when he played second base in the latter series. His offensive numbers speak for himself, he hit the heck out of the ball against UMHB.

About UTT, they continue to win each and every series. The closest thing to a losing series was going 1 and 2 in their spring break tournament when they lost to MCM and HSU while beating Marietta.

About MC, they seemed to have peeked at the right time winning 9 of their last 12 conference games. Will their momentum be slowed however since UTT beat them 2 of 3 to take the EAST crown on their own field this past weekend?

About HSU, this team is HOT, they have won 12 games in a row, sweeping HPU and TLU to insert themselves into the playoffs. They have also won 11 of their last 12 conference games, meaning they started a dismal 3 and 6 and have since learned the winning ways. They do have a great one-two punch in Barton and Alcorn down in that 'pen.

LC, what happened to them? I have not seen them play this year, but they have fallen apart down the stretch. Any info on them?

About OU, I would like to say that their pitching will be put to the test in that cracker jack ballpark in Austin. But then I remember their park may play smaller? This will be an interesting series with CTX playing real well offensively and on the bump. I look forward to the weekend!