loggers only had one suspension. the others were just going to sit the 1st half. everybody who played produced and played with a lot of heart, and lunt went with what worked. props to him for having the pair to not play 3 guys who normally play significant minutes. 2nd Colin Koach are u kidding me?!? he played out of his mind, talk about stepping up big time. Loggers have been lacking an intimidating force this season since the departure of Krauel, but Bryce levin stepped up to the plate not only dropping gabe smith with a bow when he was getting crowed, and even better, he didnt back down once when smith started running his mouth. Thats part of the edge the loggers have lacked this season. Those who played on tuesday represented what logger basketball is all about. good win fellas, keep it going against willamette

Quote from: PSfan on December 07, 2009, 10:20:08 PM
I am a bit skeptical about this young Loggers team, but I have to say that I think that they're considerably stronger than I (and many of us who have watched UPS basketball for years) expected.  The W/L isn't good, but this team is set to grow--losing to Stevens Point, DII St. Martin's, a pretty good NAIA team in the opener, and to Eau Claire on the day after a brutal game against Oshkosh isn't so bad.  I thought they'd be getting crushed at this point in the year, and they had a shot late against Point, Evergreen, and St. Martin's.... 

i think it goes to show that lunt can get a lot out of his guys, they have been pretty thin so far this season, that teamed without much experience lead to loosing games where they had a chance (IMO) in a system like UPS' when kids play hard and work together they can really disrupt what other (probably more talented teams) can do

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Quote from: y_jack_lok on December 05, 2009, 12:29:53 AM
Does Whitworth usually play man-to-man defense like they did tonight? They came to this tournament 3-4 years ago and played zone against both DePauw and Wash U. DePauw had no clue how to penetrate the zone and consequently it was one of the most boring games I've ever seen. Wash U picked it apart the next night.

Yes, man to man is the general rule I would say.  I do recall a team a few years back that WW did use a zone frequently, must have been personnel.

Im my experience seeing WW play they zoned pretty often, and tried to trap usually 1-3-1 or 3-2, but that was against ups back when curtiss and mcvey were seniors

Quote from: PointSpecial on November 22, 2009, 10:49:30 PM

Quote from: LogShow on November 22, 2009, 09:23:53 PM
Well the Logs kept it close most of the night...it got away from them a little bit at the end.  They hit a real offensive drought in the second half and hardly scored for about 7 mins.  I would have to say I am definately encouraged by this game...it should be something they can build on.

Was it miserable shooting by the Logs or good defense by the Pointers that kept UPS to 55 points?

A little from column A and a little from column B, with the advantage going to column A

Quote from: NWCer on November 15, 2009, 01:56:08 AM
Logshow, what's good my man.

Listening to the back and forth from the Logger faithful, I understand both sides.  I think they will be good, but UPS's standard for "good" is a little different, can they live up to that?  That will be tuff.

Also hearing about Bridgeland's recruits, I jumped on their site and read their season preview, according to him they are ALL STEALS.  Who knows.  He does think this kid plays hard though, you think? 

Drew Raher, a 6-foot-3 forward, earned First-Team All-West Catholic League honors last season at San Francisco's St. Ignatius College Prep.

"In the last eight to 10 years, I haven't seen anyone play as hard as Drew does on a consistent basis," Bridgeland says. "You look at Quam and he has national-level quickness. You look at Peter and he can shoot it as well as anyone in Division III. Then you look at Drew and he plays so hard that it's a skill. He plays harder than anyone, and he plays for his teammates. He's a throwback.

Raher battled for 10 rebounds in 20 minutes on the court in a recent exhibition, Bridgeland says. "With our style of play benefitting the team that works the hardest, Drew sets the bar. There will be games when he'll blow up. He'll get 15 rebounds.

"All of our guys play hard, but Drew takes it to a whole new level. He works harder than any human alive today. He works so hard that it's a skill and a weapon. It's his gift from God. He goes 100 percent every possession, and he's totally selfless. He plays for his teammates."

haha, kinda sounds like a used car salesman trying really hard to sell a car that is decent, but definitely isnt the best on the lot. someone better ask for the carfax.

caught a little of the loggers scrimmage, played your typical CC team, athletic, but not very skilled. GRCC tried to trap the loggers without much success, actually led to lots of open 3s, 38 to be exact. the loggers hit 19 of em. obviously they wont shoot that well every night, but ups might be pretty dangerous from the outside this season. hopefully levin can play by the law of averages and since he only seemed to hit about 20% last year he'll hit about 50% of em this year. Loggers had a thin lineup with only 9 or 10 guys healthy. Koach was out with a concussion, and two of the ups bigmen who are looking at getting good minutes this year were out, 1 with a stress fracture and the other at a funeral. So ups has some height, and their success really just depends how quick they mature.

Tglass im not sure why youre knocking lunt, he actually did most of the recruiting of that highly touted class that graduated last year. secondly ups hasnt even played a single game how can be disappointed? maybe youre getting confused with the football team who will score less points in their entire season than hoops team will score in a single game. take all the recruiting hype with a grain of salt, everybody wants you to think they have the best recruits in the country. brdigeland is the king of that.

making it through a season at ups is no joke. its not uncommon for 2-3 players to quit every year, but the guys who stick it out are some tough guys. Thats why ups has been so tough for the passed 6-7 years, they seem to lose a lot every year, but the guys that come back are tough.

if you wanna be disappointed, at least let them play a couple games first.

Logshow

you hit it right one the head with those quotes. haha

Start of the season just a few days away!!!

Havent talked to lunt in a while, but last time i did he was pretty high on how the loggers were looking. if he legitimately think his loggers can challenge for a title i have no problem with him voting for ups to get 1st place.

i've had several conversations with coach lunt (last time was before the bahamas trip) and the impression i got was that the loggers are going to be pretty tough again.  Also there was mention of a frosh post that brought comparisons to a young McVey.If this kid matures the way McVey did look out, however in the one time i did see him play i didn't think he had the same freakish athleticism and strength. PSfan you forgot about Bryce Levin who was ice cold last year, but has the potential to be the lights out shooter that the loggers will need to stretch the floor and create lanes to attack the basket. and yes gehring is out, tore his achilles, which is too bad because he was finally moving pretty good last season after being slowed by a prior knee injury in the previous seasons

Quote from: NWCer on September 23, 2009, 03:29:01 AM
Wow shock....  Anyone who can spit some Jay Z on the D3hoops post board gets my attention... Classic..  "I'm not a businessman I'm a Business man....". Haha

Let me handle my business, d@mn!

On to this year, Koach is one tough SOB but to call him the toughest since bridgeland was around is overlooking some guys id take on my team any day. id take any recruiting newletter, write up, etc with a grain of salt, because everybody knows that no coach is gonna say, so and so is a lightning quick guard who averaged 15 points a game shooting 15 % outside of 15ft and scored the majority of his points on lay ups. since he has a horrible shot he used his impressive athletic ability to take adavantage of the put it up and go get it technique. player accolades arent exactly a reliable factor to rely on either unless there are an all american or somethin cause truth is some leagues are pretty terrible and teams idea of playing defense is parting the red sea when the offense drives to the hole.

i dont really have to many predictions for this season, but i think heyman is going to make some noise next year, and be on the lookout for a UPS guard Edrick (don't know how to spell his last name) that kid is tough, him and koach are gonna be lockdown defenders. depending on how the league finishes up id say the road for POY might run through tacoma again. Austin boyce is going to be in the running for it if, and this is a huge if, Boyce hasn't been a lazy ass all summer, which is certainly a possibility.

Looking forward to the season for sure

been away for a while, but just wanted to say great season loggers. also congrats to all those who made all NWC and a special congrats to Foster on his NWC POY and making the all region team. finally congrats to coach lunt on his 1st (of hopefully several) coach of the year awards

Quote from: bbaddict on March 03, 2009, 12:15:32 AM
It's all semantics, Sager, since the "real season" to me is conference play.  Anyway, I was right about the game results?  So, why is Whitworth hosting CMS?  Seems that it should be the other way around -- not that I'm complaining!

And logshock, both coaches were talking to the refs while Krauel was down.  Probably "lobbying" for different reasons.  There was also discussion when Gebbers went down.  One big difference:  Krauel returned to play.

that cause he got knocked the f@#$ out as chris tucker would say...from what i hear antwan has an extremely hard head literally

Quote from: pineconefan on March 02, 2009, 07:14:44 PM
Regarding the officiating on Saturday - I wasn't there, so I can't speak to any specific calls.  But when both Jurich and Montgomery went out in the second half with their fourth foul, the total foul count at the time was 15-6 against Whitworth.  That's according to the live statistics provided by UPS.  Sure doesn't sound like a conspiracy to get two teams into the tournament to me.

UPS4L ably demonstrates the natural blindness in being a fan.  The same behavior is demonstrated by each coach, but one is disgraceful.  And while his memory of Krauel going down is strong, his memory of Gebbers spending several minutes on the floor is surely fuzzy.

the thing about the krauel going down was that he was hit by his own teammate, and i dont know if thats really what lunt was upset about, i think he was fouled when he put up the shot before getting hit and there was no call. i had a perfect view of both players going down as i was seated at that end of the court.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 02, 2009, 05:16:14 PM
There are fans from at least eight or nine other schools in the Midwest/West section that are saying the exact same thing.

Quote from: Tglassman55 on March 02, 2009, 12:37:00 PMLoving that UPS got the equivalent of a one seed.

For all of the annual bitching about the tournament's bracket construction that resounds from the Left Coast every March -- and, yes, much of it is justified -- there's at least the consolation that a Left Coast team is more likely than anyone else to draw an undeserved first-round bye. And that's exactly what happened this year.

GS, while I agree that UPS might not be as deserving of a 1st round bye as St. Thomas, I believe that they are still deserving of a bye as they only lost 1 game to a DIII all year and it was in the conference tournament final, just my opinion. Texas Dallas isn't even in the D3hoops top 25. are they more deserving of a bye than UPS, ST Thomas, Wash U? just my thoughts

Quote from: LogShow on March 02, 2009, 03:50:40 PM

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Quote from: LogShow on March 02, 2009, 01:28:37 PM
I am just glad the NCAA didn't institute their SCIAC exception for the NWC 

And Logs, be really glad that UPS isn't in the Elmhurst or St. Thomas brackets -- at least the travel thing works in your team's favor this year!  Sucks for the NWC, but really works better for UPS or Whitworth, whichever team makes it out of the 2nd round.

That's true, but just know the sweet 16 will be in wisconsin...I've heard the town of stevens point is a great place to visit in march.

yes, great if u love snow, below 0 temperatures and working on your turkey call. those are all very popular there