Lyco - Congrats on being the conference champs. I will not make excuses for why my team or any other team didn't pull things out. Nor will I give any back-hand compliments like others. Games aren't won on paper. Ask The Angels and Cubs about that.
You won the conference by getting it done when it matter, regardless of what people say or feel.  Great turnaround, especially with the controversy surrounding the coaching situation.

Great recap Gordanmann. Thanks!

Good luck to the teams vying for the title next week. WU can do no better than a disappointing 5-5 this year. With some good experience from a mostly Soph/Jr team and some better health next year, they should contend.

Quote from: WUDLINE on November 02, 2008, 08:11:17 PM
Gordonmann & Wu_Joker :
My sources have informed me that the officials ruled the punt was actually not touched by a Widener player and was recovered behind the line of scrimmage by a del val player. I had never seen this occur before and have to admit that I was not sure about the ruling myself. However, I am told that the officials actually got the call correct. A punt is a free ball until it crosses the line of scrimmage and can be advanced by either team.

Thanks for the update, WUDLINE. As I was saying before, lots of things going against WU that were going for them last year. Next year, with a healthy team and a predominant sophomore and junior starting class this year back, they will no doubt contend for the title. In the meantime, hats off to a Lycoming team that had a great turnaround that included havig to adjust to a new coach. I know there are a few games left and am not declaring them champs yet, but a nice season nonetheless.

Gordonmann: Thanks for your reply and analysis. Your sources are correct. If the punt is tipped and retrieved by the punting team behind the line of scrimmage, the punting team can advance the ball. If it had been tipped and went beyond the line of scrimmage, then the receiving team must touch or fumble the ball for the kicking team to recover the ball.

Quote from: WU_Joker on November 01, 2008, 05:55:24 PM
Can anyone fill me on on the Widener/DV game today? I was at another of my son's games (2 playing college football). Seems the fairly reliable Widener D didn't show up, while the O put on one of its better performances. I know they have some key guys out in the secondary and with the DV pass attack, the points were plentiful.

Guess I can answer my own question after looking at the recap and box score. Seems like it was an exciting game, but there was a questionable call on a DV punt that wound up giving them the ball back and eventually leading to a score. Widener closed it to 6 and then recovered an onsides kick and reached the DV 40 only to get picked off with 32 secs left to the end the game. Tough losses this year that were wins last year.

Can anyone fill me on on the Widener/DV game today? I was at another of my son's games (2 playing college football). Seems the fairly reliable Widener D didn't show up, while the O put on one of its better performances. I know they have some key guys out in the secondary and with the DV pass attack, the points were plentiful.

Sting - Injuries are part of the game, but have a much deeper affect than the weather. When the weather is bad, it is bad for both teams. Weather doesn't impact who plays and who doesn't.  Being shorthanded will cause you to juggle personnel, game plans and so on. Cute last line, though! 


On to the games:

Widener 14 - FDU 10

Better than touted FDU team keeps it close, but the struggling Widener O has enough to pull this one out


Albright 24 - Wilkes 13

Statement game for Albright, as they pull away late from a tough Wilkes team.


LVC 23 - Kings 17

LVC squeaks out a tough one against a Kings team that is better than their record indicates.


Del Val 34 - Lyco 17

Lyco is improved, but not on a par with DV. In another statement game, DV gets back to form with a convincing win in front of the home folks.

Sting - Of course you are entitled to your opin and I gave mine. The conditions didn't benefit anyone that day. To coin the phrase' your record is what it is' and Widener went undefeated in the conference to earn the title. If Del Val was the better team all year, it shouldn't have even come down to that game. ENough said on that one.
I'd be teh first to tell you that before the season, I thought Del Val should be the favorite and I am still picking them to win it, despite the logjam at the top. Widener is going through some growing pains with many sophs and juniors, but will be back stronger next year. They also have a key injury in the backfield and 2 guys lost in the secondary for the year.

Kingsting - Say what you want about playing Friday nights or not, but to come on here and use the weather conditions as an excuse is 'bush league'. Widener was playing under the same conditions and their passing game was also the stronger part of their game.  They were affected also by the conditions.Bottom line, was that Widener was the better team when it counted. To say anything other than that is just excuse making and states you don't know what you are talking about.

Thanks for the welcome, Pat.

WUDLINE - 3.3 yds a carry isn't terrible, but certainly nothing to brag about. As far as the LVC gameplan surrounding stopping the run goes - part of the reason it was successful, was the LVC coaches ability to plot against such and exploit a weakness. Unfortunately, other team's D schemes are part of the whole equation and it is up to the coaches to counter and the players to execute. So, with that said, I still stand by my earlier point, also bearing in mind that Widener's best run game you spoke of came against the weakest team in the league, at this point. Take that game out and the numbers are obviously worse.

The O simply needs to step it up in both areas. With an unstable QB situation, you can't rely on getting things done in the air. So, it's imperative the run game steps up to ease the transition with the passing game.

The D has played relatively well, although breakdowns in the secondary have cost them (e.g. 2 big plays in OT today). Hopefully, things can turn around soon.

Nice analysis BAK. Seems it was amazing that Widener was even in  a position to steal the game at the end. From what I have seen of Widener, their O is weak (especially the run game), as is their secondary. Missing a few key guys on both sides of the ball, but ya have to have some depth to survive the injury bug. Kudos to LVC for turning things around and having a nice season. Great group of coaches over there.