Quote from: OXY Oswald on February 27, 2006, 01:57:10 PM
Go Tigers beat those nasty Sagehens!

FYI Oswald...Pomona-Pitzer, aka the Sagehens, did not make the tourney.  Oxy is going up against the Stags from CMS.  Just a minor distinction.

I was just at the Oxy - Redlands game in Eagle Rock.  It was a very tough loss for the Oxy squad. They were up 10 with about 7 minutes to go in the game.  Then Amir Mazeiri really turned it on.  He put on the best shooting performances I HAVE EVER SEEN! I played against him 2 years ago and he has been one of, if not the best player, at Redlands since stepping foot on the campus, but tonight he was unconscious.  Oxy was doing whatever they could to stay in front of him.  Give the game ball to Amir, he deserves it.

I'll be right there with DJ Hyphen at the Pomona/CMS game on Saturday. It really is too bad that Chaz Turner had to quit the CMS team prior to the 2 games against Pomona. Nonetheless it should be a good game. Hopefully the Pomona team that came to play against Oxy will show up against CMS on Saturday.

I'll start it here...Jordan Carlson (Cal Tech) for 1st Team!

15 pts. against P-P
24 pts. against CMS
21 pts. against La Verne
29 pts. against Oxy

The last person I remember getting on any level of All League from Cal Tech was Jonathan Bird who I believe was 2nd Team a few years ago.

Ok Bob. My point was to say that without beating a solid east coast team, they wouldnt have gotten the resepect that they have and that they deserve. I wasn't knocking them at all, but there have been other very good teams, how about the 2003 Oxy team that went 14-0, that have not risen as quickly or as high as this year's team.  In fact, I'm gonna go ahead and say that 2003's undefeated team would beat this years team.

Is Oxy's #12 national ranking the highest EVER for a SCIAC team? My SCIAC history is not as strong as it is for some of you. 

I gotta love the press (front page of d3hoops) that this is getting the league, but sad to say if Amherst was not on their schedule and at the time undefeated, Oxy would just barely have broken into the top 25.  Moot point I suppose. I wonder if they'll jump into the top ten after victories over a tough Cal Tech team and a homeless La Verne. 

Hey WCWhiner - I'm not saying that non-players can't contribute to this chat. I was just curious how many of the talking heads on this board have actually been through a SCIAC season or even a game like the Pomona/Oxy or PP/CMS games. 

Talk away.

New Question:

I'm curious how many of the posters on this board actually played college basketball and if so at what level (and school). 

I played D3 for Pomona (if you didnt already know that).

Of course one play does not make or break a game.  There are 50 other plays in a game that could have gone one way or the other to affect the flow and outcome at the end.  That being said it is unfortunate in a game of this magnitude when there are certain plays that are clearly blown and in retrospect might have caused the game to flow a bit differently.  Pomona has been shooting free-throws TERRIBLY this season.  Had they been able to hit a respectable 70% during this game they would have pulled it out. 

It looks like Pomona has about 3.5 consistent scorers.  David Knowles and Ed Wexler Beron are always going to be threats on the offensive end.  Alex Lloyd has been the third most consistent threat since coming back from early season knee surgery. The other scorer I saw on Saturday was David Brown.  He too is coming back from an early season injury (broken ankle I think) and made some clutch shots during the game.  If all 4 are clicking Pomona should win if only 2 of 4 are on then it'll be a very tough game.

Quote from: El Tigre on January 29, 2006, 01:22:28 PM
Having sat in the student section for the tigers and assisted in starting most of the chants ... we never began chanting "You Are Ugly."  It was actually the PP fans who began chanting when our cheerleaders game out to perform.  Then later the cheerleaders came back out and they began chanting "Your Still Ugly."  The oxy section has tried to be more classy and thus far has done a good job of it. 

I didn't want to really say anything further on this subject, but couldn't let this just pass.  You are flat out wrong about the "you are ugly" chant. I was sitting on the Oxy side and heard it clearly directed at a specific Pomona-Pitzer player.  Let's end it at that.

I did not hear the Pomona fans chanting that the Oxy cheerleaders are ugly, though I wouldn't put it past them.  I think it's funny that any schools in the SCIAC have cheerleaders at all.  I know Pomona doesn't and that is not necessarily a bad thing.  It's pretty sad when everyone in the crowd has to hold their breath when the cheerleaders do a routine and hope that no one crashes to the floor.

Oh yeah I wanted to add to one of the other debates on this board...the most athletic in SCIAC.

Lloyd has been playing for less than a month and is bound to have ups and downs during his acclimation.  Its pretty sad to see people bash him after he's had 2 significant knee injuries (and surgeries) during his career.  He can still get up. He can still block shots and dunk. He's still a game changer. 

Alex Lloyd as a freshman was one fo the most athletic guys the SCIAC has likely ever seen.  So I'm turning back the clock and giving him the title as most athletic due to what he was and what he still is!

I was lucky enough to take in the Pomona/Oxy game tonight and as the score indicated (53-52 Oxy) it was a very close game.  I'll go ahead and actually say that Pomona played a better game overall than did Oxy. Without the GREAT game of Connor Whitman, Oxy would have lost by 5-10 points.  In addition to the clock being out and a very old substitute put in play, the referees were not at the top of their game tonight. 

I'd say for the most part the calls were bad on both ends, but there was one play specifically that was atrocious and unfortunately it came to play a very important part in the game.  About halfway through the second half, Kostic caught the ball straight away above the 3-point line with 2 seconds remaining on the shot clock.  He then shot an airball, but one of the other Oxy players caught the ball and completed a reverse layup.  Sadly the clock read "0" while Kostic's shot was in midflight, but because of the clock situation the buzzer was being controlled manually by an Oxy student.  The refs, obvoiusly paying little attention to the game at this point, credited Oxy with the bucket, which I believe put them up by 5 at the time. 

Pomona as usual had a pretty evenly spread offense with Ed Wexler-Beron playing a good game and leading the Hens.  Betty was held in check most of the game, though he did come through with a few big baskets down the stretch.  Gyan Alexander, the lone freshman on the Oxy squad, got significant minutes and though he didn't do much on offence, he was a game changer on defense putting significant pressure on many of the Sagehen guards.

The chants were pretty standard.  The "Safety School" chant was pretty good because the Oxy fans had nothing to return with.  There were a few lower class chants from the Oxy students, such as "You are ugly." Not very clever, but not all that unexpected at a game like this either.

The turnout was great though.  This was a great atmosphere for a basketball game for both teams and really made me want to get back out there on the court with my Sagehens. The away games at Claremont and at Pomona are going to be very tough for Oxy.  I'm starting to feel that this Oxy squad is getting the same breaks that the 2002 team did when they went 14-0.  Something special could be going on in Eagle Rock.

It was Hodges from Cal Lu that took it to Redlands.  But honestly each of the top teams in the SCIAC has someone that takes it to Redlands.  With the luxury of preparing for "the system" that they run, the good SCIAC coaches are able to break it down and get layups or shots within 5 feet.  Thats why you see shooting percentages against them above 70%...often. 

What I heard about Turner at CMS was that he felt he wasn't "fitting" in with his teammates.  Whether this is his excuse this time is hard to know.  I suppose it would be difficult to transfer across 6th St. to your bitter rivals and join their team.  But again maybe the problem this whole time wasn't with the people at PP or those at CMS.  Maybe this issue is with Turner. 

Remember when Greenlee from La Verne was talking trash before going to La Verne as a transfer 3 years ago.  I just thought about that after looking over the weekends scores.  Good times.  He and La Verne are both doing a wonderful job backing up the talk.

Oxy is definitely the team to beat at this point. Can't argue with an undefeated DIII record so far.