Sounds like a similar goal we should've had a few years back in the beginning of the tournament, 1st round. It got by the goalkeeper but a defender happened to go back to the goal line and head it out. Just sort of knew at that point it wasn't our day and lost 2-0 at that point. Why finishing every chance afforded is so important when you have them or you head home.

Doesn't most every team video anyways? Especially in the NCAA tournament. With the roster game max of 22 most teams at this level have to "cut" a few players for the games. They still bring them. We always had every game taped for im guessing the last ten years as a program. Be a nice goal to see!

Quote from: Flying Weasel on November 26, 2014, 08:34:40 AM

Quote from: Midwest Soccer on November 25, 2014, 04:15:19 PM
Yep they are all forwards except Sam Justice, a centerback. I did that based on who the most recent recipients have been. 2010 when Geoff Pezon won it was the last time a non-forward won it but he put up stats like he was a forward.

I never think a goalie should get the National Player of the Year award...that  may be just me but I'm pretty adamant about that.

If you go by midfielders I think Jack Thompson and Brian Ramirez are both very worthy candidates but I don't know how likely they are to be selected.

I just threw those names out there to get the conversation started, didn't have any ranking behind them or anything.

Returning to the POY conversation . . .  To be a candidate for POY, you have to be 1st Team All-American, and the All-American teams are formed from the 1st Team All-Region.  As I understand it, there is only one nomination period and one voting period from which both All-Regional and All-American teams formed.  No idea how it all works.  The nomination period this year was 11/3 - 11/13 (before the NCAA tournament) and the voting was 11/19 - 11/24 which means performance through the NCAA quarterfinals can be taken into account in voting if the player had been nominated.  Not sure when the POY voting takes place (and that's a vote within the NSCAA All-American committee only, not the full membership), but even if it is after the Final Four, a good Final Four performance could only help if you already made 1st Team All-American.

As to the chance of a Messiah player being named POY.  Highly doubtful.  Depending on the when the voting takes place, not making the Final Four could hurt them, but I also think the vote-splitting effect when you have multiple plausible candidates (Payne, Jack Thompson, and Brian Ramirez) is going against them.  And there are certainly other worthy candidates out there, many having already been mentioned.  Trying to figure out NSCAA selections is tricky.  The process has its share of politics, committee members showing preference for their players and their regions players, and previous recognition is huge.  So, I'll just wait and see.  The one comment I will make is that if Jack Thompson graduates without a single 1st Team AA nod, that's incredible.  Similarly for Brian Ramirez.  But there are 400+ teams, and 8000+ players, so percentage-wise, there's little difference between being named to the 1st or 3rd team.  Either way you are recognized as being one of the top 0.5% of players.

It's been a few years since I have part of the voting procedure so I don't remember it exactly perfect. Was an assistant. I was a head juco coach though so was more involved in that. Think it was voting for the players you played against that year. Would have to note on top of that being the Nscaa stuff the school would have to be a member. I'm also remembering that if you were to play a non d3 school it can hurt your chances- they can't vote for you, or you for them but the total games are still the same.

Thought that nescac teams couldn't start playing until after a certain date like September 8th? Wouldn't that leave a Labor Day tournament out of the question. Just jumping into the thread so have not read the last few pages.

I'm hoping Loras wins. I've seen messiah and Rutgers Camden play live in the past two seasons. Time for a new champion. Never seen Williams on film and just a little bit of loras. Just seem like a classy program. Nobody has anything bad to say about them at all. Have been knocking on the door for a good couple of years. Seems to be the toughest schedule or close to it in the country too.

Quote from: cciwrabblerouser on November 17, 2013, 05:58:41 PM

Quote from: NCAC New England on November 17, 2013, 05:46:53 PM
Not sure what you men by unrated.  Unranked?  Kenyon likely ended up #3 in Great Lakes. 

BTW, F&M up 3-0 on Dickinson still in 1st half.

Since this board is part of D3.com, I was just referring to the D3.com rankings (aka ratings).  Kenyon wasn't in the Top 25.  Yes, Kenyon is #3 in the NCAA regional rankings.

Like I said, the NCAA call will be verrrrrrrrrrrry interesting (according to Sgt. Schultz).  Save flight dollars, or allow two remaining teams within an hour of each other to be able to have an opportunity to host.

Actually, Messiah has proven through the years that it plays better on the road in NCAA tournaments than it does at home.  Its fans will definitely what their Falcons to play at home, but I don't think Messiah's coaches would mind an excursion to central Ohio.

I'll just say it was always better to go away being in the tournament. It makes it feel like that much more of an event. Hosted once and it just wasn't the same. NCAA pays for a tournament bus for fans some do end up making the trek depending how far away it is for schools.