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Hey G,  hope you are doing well. 

I have asked/urged/inquired EC coaches and personnel why we continue to play Benedictine who is obviously not as strong a foe as what the CCIW has to offer.  The response I get is "It's a good rivalry, close and both sides don't have to travel far to make the game."  And though I don't agree with this answer, I let it go there.

Lets be honest.   A rivalry is only a rivalry when there is competition.  I think a Non-Conf. game against a Monmouth, or Aurora would be a better move than BU.   Aurora is obviously close and playing a team like Monmouth would help to prepare for a passing attack.

I thought BU and AU are in the same conf...

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Not to knock Ittersagen but I think Wenger was a more dominating player this year than he was.  I think it shows that the people who pick the all american teams pay little attention to the regular season.

Wenger was more dominant in the regular season (and was in a position where he could be) but ittersagen was far more productive in the playoffs.

Usee loves him some #12

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Congratulations to Wheaton on an excellent postseason run.

Besides AFCA, and D3football.com,  are there any other Division 3 All-american publications?

Lindy's and there was one callled the Football Gazette (Don Hansen)

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If any newcomers want more information on Mt Union you can go to Ric Brienza's site www.mtunionfootball.com  It's one of the best d3 sites out there and you can get all the info you need about The Purple Raiders.

Wow... love the scrolling signature!  (and it isn't too big to be annoying  )

I disagree 

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It's about time that Ittersagen started playing well.  I feel that he had an abysmal regular season, except for the Bethel game. 

I would like to nominate this post for "Idiotic post of the year"   

Great job Thunder!! 
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#12 did have a sub-par year compared to years prior... but boy did he step it up when the thunder needed him most. Congratulations to the Thunder, represent the conference well this week.





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I saw Rocky Pentello and Brett Elliot play. Borchert v Pentello isn't even worth the conversation. Borchert was better than Elliot in my opinion. I never saw Arth but I know he was on the practice squad for the Colts for a while.

I've seen Rupp and Pentello each twice. IMO Rupp is better.

I've seen both twice as well and I'd have to give the nod to Pentello... However, I'd argue that 05 & 06 Capital team is better that the 07 & 08 Franklin team... which always makes the QB looks better.

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Overheard someone, (NCC player's parent), say that their quarterback broke his wrist during practice?  I thot
there was a similar injury earlier in year to Fanthorpe.   Maybe it was rehashing old news or if he reaggravated it.    That sure would be a shame if he can't battle it out with Rupp on Sat.

I would highly doubt the validity of this given the timing. Most teams don't practice on Monday and Tuesday practice hasn't happened yet so don't know when this may have happened. Sounds like bad info.

I was actually thinking that as I was texting a few people to try and get info, so here's hoping that it is bad info.

My niece has a class with him and said there was no cast on his arm during their exam this morning. Also, here brother is in the recruiting process and told me IWU will be getting field turf for next year.

I believe this is Finals week at NCC - they are on a quarters system. So, if your niece had a class with Fanthorpe, it was likely a final exam.

In any case, Aaron has had quite a year. He still managed to be All Conference and OPOY even with all the real and imaginary injuries and illnesses. I think that he's scheduled for an organ transplant next week. The players have to be laughing at all the crazy stories that surround their QB.

NCC is actually on Trimesters.

Good to hear that he's only victim of an imaginary injury!

My father's cousin's sister's daughter's former roommate saw Rupp on Franklin's campus and said that he is walking around campus wearing Nike's....he normally wears Addidas.  I'll keep everyone posted if any other breaking news stories come down the grapevine.

LOL

nothing is wrong with fanthropes wrist, he had separated his shoulder against elmhurst but that is all but healed and (if you saw the game) did not bother last week when he took it to TM.

Does anyone find it strange that Mt. Union RB Nate Kmic was not a finalist in POY, he rushed for double of what Sulo did (not taking anything away from Sulo)? I think its disappointing that a player of that caliber that breaks all these NCAA records doesn't get rewarded his senior year.

Also, Sulo in the West region... might help him when it comes down to the 4 regional finalist.

Good Luck to both North Central and Wheaton tomorrow, both teams will represent the conference well.

CCIW All-Conference teams released... Wenger/Fanthrope/Thorne Sweep DPOY/OPOY/COY. The only surprise I saw on NC's part was Treglown being on the second team, I thought he was first team worthy. 

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Quote from: redman04 on November 17, 2008, 03:38:49 PM
2005 Augie was better than 05 NCC

I vehemently disagree.  I'm not going to get into it, but my 2005 highlight film says differently, in slow motion.

Not trying to take anything away from that NCC, they were good.  However, I saw both teams play and IMO Augie was better....Sorry

I'm surprised.  I assume you saw them both play Carthage that season.  Granted, Augie shut Carthage out, but Fox and co. were able to hold Augie to 7 points.  NCC put up 43 on that same defense.

I was hoping never to discuss 2005 again.

Strictly speaking, Augie beat NCC. However, that game was at Rock Island. On a neutral field, NCC would have won 7 out of 10 times.

Neutral Schmeutral.  We had a chance to win then and there if the refs weren't too cold and wet to ref an overtime.

I amazed that this is still coming up.  Yes NCC had a chance to win in 2005, but they didn't.  You all make it sound like the only reason you lost was the controversial call at the end.  NCC certainly did not dominate the game, far from it.  Maybe NCC would have won if they didn't allow Augie to run for 335 yards that game (averaging 4.7 yds per carry).  Augie outgained NCC 360 yds to 330 yds and had an ~7 min advantage in TOP.  If it goes to overtime, what evidence do you have that NCC would have been able to stop Augie from scoring?   I guarantee you NCC would not have won 7 of 10 games giving up that type of yardage.  And if NCC was that superior to Augie, then it shouldn't have come down to a referees call at the end of the game, should it? It was a close game against two evenly matched teams.  This was proven based on both teams' performances on the field.  The fact that you don't like how it ended, doesn't change this.

In all fairness, I've seen the "offsides on the FG" it was a really bad call that decided a game of two evenly matched teams (that day... in the rain...  ) It's too bad the game ended in that type of fashion. I am also pretty surprised this conversation is happening. Do I think NC would win 7 out of 10 times? No... 8  

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Reflecting on the cards 10-0 regular season, it made me think of the greatest CCIW of all time in recent years (post auggie mid-80's)...


I have narrowed it down to 4 teams:

03' Wheaton

04' Carthage

05' Auggie

05' NCC

Personally, I would love a 03' Wheaton/04' Carthage fantasy match-up....

just something to ponder...

I'd say best teams since 2000.  I know in the 90's there are a ton of great Millikin, Wesleyan, and Augie teams.  I'm sure someone who has been around D3 for longer than I have would know a lot more about them.

If you want to pick a Wheaton team from the last ten years, in their two year stretch without a conference loss, the 2002 team was quite a bit stronger than 2003.

Their conference schedule in 2002:
*ELMHURST COLLEGE....... 62-7  W   
*at Millikin............ 39-20 W   
*CARTHAGE............... 36-6  W   
*at Illinois Wesleyan... 35-21 W   
*NORTH CENTRAL.......... 41-7  W   
*at North Park.......... 68-12 W   
*AUGUSTANA VIKINGS...... 38-14 W   

They did have a  16-23 hiccup in week one against Alma, but they made up for that with a 42-14 victory in the playoffs over that same Alma team.    The 2003 team made it deeper into the playoffs (due to getting Mount in a later round) but didn't have close to the dominanting  performance in CCIW play the '02 team did.

The best team Wheaton has ever had was in August of 2007.....but I digress. The best one that actuallyfnished a season was definitely the 2002 team. they gave Mt Union the best game of any Wheaton team. The next best Wheaton team was the 1995 team. they were loaded too. Best NCC team I have seen was Kam Kniss, Radtke, Holden and company. This year's team has a chance to better that.

Interesting List...
I have a couple of things I would change
2002 Wheaton was Better than 03
2005 Augie was better than 05 NCC
2008 NCC team should be on that list (IMO they are better than 05) They might be one of the most physical teams I've seen.
Right on with 04 Carthage and 05 Augie
In the 90's Millikin had some really good teams 98, 99, 00 Auggie

I agree 05' Auggie was the most physical team I've probably ever seen. That AA offensive tackle was the real deal.

I never really thought 04' Carthage was that physical offensively, very good team,  but offensively ran stretch 50% of the time to Washington. Can't really speak about their defense.

08' vs 05' NCC would be a good match up. IMO I would say as good as the 08' defense is, they couldn't handle the 05' offense, mostly the receiving core. I'd take Wenger/Treglown/Garza over Radtke/Bazant/Tenerelli however, the 05' defensive line was one of the best NCC has had. I'd say every other segment matches up very well. It would be a good game to see.

Another one... 02' Wheaton vs. 03' Wheaton

Reflecting on the cards 10-0 regular season, it made me think of the greatest CCIW of all time in recent years (post auggie mid-80's)...


I have narrowed it down to 4 teams:

03' Wheaton

04' Carthage

05' Auggie

05' NCC

Personally, I would love a 03' Wheaton/04' Carthage fantasy match-up....

just something to ponder...

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The Best LB and Corner in Division 3 get to play this coming weekend, lucky us!!..

Wenger and Ittersagen..its going to be fun.

Oh boy, in the midst of all the positive CCIW talk, you had to bring up Ittersagen and his ability as a DB...  Blitz Creed will be on in minutes to talk about how "obsolete" he is...   

... i hate you guys...

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I think its something like Wheaton -4.

At Wheaton, I would put it closer to 8 points.




Agreed. But it's in Kenosha. (I would have said -7.5 @ Wheaton  )

I'll say Wheaton -6.  I still think Wheaton is pretty good regardless of the two losses and Carthage turns the ball over way too much.

I would agree, but I think I'm going to take Carthage with the upset. Carthage has gave Wheaton fits in recent years. Playing at Carthage is not that easy and for the exception of the auggie game they have stayed close in all their games. I will take Carthage -2

I'll take Wheaton plus the 2 all day!!

I live on the edge