I have been ammused with the back and forth argument for Greensboro. Ok here is a great scenario...Forget win the whole tournament, how about just beat Moravian, who is pretty weak themselves. If they lose to Moravian just go back into hibernation with the bears

It is about time the pool expanded to 63 teams. Now the UAA and the NESCAC can get the 4 teams in that they deserve and get to play in the real deal and not have to win the ECAC final scoring 92 points in the first 28 mins. I feel bad the for the teams in the previous years that have had to miss out on a bid because there were only 7 to be had and play in one of these 2 conferces where only having 2-3 losses is EXTREMELY hard to do. All I have to say to the other teams is WATCH OUT!! GO UAA

NYU was held out of last year's tournament because they were ranked 14th out of a Pool C that only took 7, based on QOWI numbers. This year they were 13th out of the 21 Pool C spots. I know everyone is complaining because they had a .720 winning % at 18-7, but that is 1 of the 3 main criteria. The third as we know is record against regionally ranked opponents, which is something that NYU has much experience. They played 7 games against regionally ranked opponents and went 3-4. The second half of Pool C teams had records like 0-3, 1-3, 0-2, except Trinity at 3-4 as well, which is the reason I feel they got in with only 15 Region wins and a QOWI below 9.8. If this was D1 then yes the fact NYU lost 4 in a row would lead someone to think they don't have a chance, but the understading I have is that it is all about the numbers and NYU had them.

My number was wrong on NYU SOSI...I apologize. I see the updated numbers state 10.208.

As I have learned through all of the postings there are 5 criteria they use to evaluate what teams receive pool C bids. The unfortunate thing for all of us is that we have NO idea what order of importance they will use in their analysis. All of us are crunching numbers and ranking teams based on SOSI and regional records, which is the logical way to look at it. I just looked at D3hoops board of teams and read the way they looked at the final 4 spots for Pool C, which they listed with SOSI and record against regionally ranked teams. I also know that everyone has a strong case for the team they favor because lets face it, with only 50 teams making the tournament(7 C's) that doesn't leave out 1 or 2 qualified teams, it actually leaves out more than a dozen. There will be less heartache next year due to the expansion of the tournament, but for now we all have to sweat it out.

Now on to my argument for my team, NYU.
I agree that the 20-5 record isn't the most appealing to everyone out there, which obviously ranks them lower in the SOSI (10.375 after last night), but NYU is 5-2 against regionally ranked teams, which is better than the other "bubble teams". Look at the teams D3hoops has contending for the last spots.

Whitworth 16-3 (10.316, 4-3)
Wheaton   19-3 (10.409, 1-2)
Hardin-Simmons 20-4 (10.292, 3-3)

NYU       19-5 (10.375, 5-2)
Isn't it funny to see that the SOSI is still better than 2 of the 3 and has a (.714) winning percentage against regionally ranked teams.

Wash U  1-1  (lost by 3 at one of the toughest places to play in the country) ranked ALL year

Brandeis 1-1 top 15 team  

Staten Island 1-0 (ranked #2 Atlantic)

Mount St. Mary 1-0 (#1 in Atlantic, their only loss this year)

COrtland  1-0 (#5 in East)

To me it should be SOS, not SOSI because just look at the teams on a schedule opposed to only rating it by the wins and losses on points. There are more NCAA teams on NYU's schedule than any other in the country and they still went 5-2 against ranked teams, which says a lot. Their 2 losses are to Wash U and Brandeis and in my opinion are Final Four caliber teams. The committee will do what they think is right for this season and I feel for everyone out there if your team doesn't make it.

It is harder to make this tournament than it is to win it...sad but true and 5 years of this "New" idea of how the teams should be selected obviously is a failure because it is gone next year. Put the best teams in the tournament so that the real champion can truly earn it. Come on...leaving out the defending national champion with a 25-3 record is a little much to accept and please don't say "you knew the system before the season"...yeah they may not have had the highest strength of schedule out there, but they proved that they were worthy enough to win the whole thing and a great record to follow...please counter that one for me

I would love for there to be a tournament early in the year that features many of the top 10 ranked teams, similar to the pre-season NIT at the Garden. It will give D3 fans something to really look forward to and for the teams and coaches to get a feel for what the top teams are capable of. I also feel bad for many of the seniors out there that will be left out of the tournament because of the selection process. Work all year to be left out for .500 teams, what a joke.

Rankings are worthless in D3. Just something for the fans and media to talk and write about. They won't really have any meaning until after this year when they up the number of Pool C bids, which makes a lot more sense than this 50 team tournament that includes 35 awful non-contenders. Plus it leaves really good teams home that have a real chance of the Final 4. Teams like Wash U and NYU are bubble teams?? what is that. That is the equivalent to saying UConn and TN women are bubbleteams. It makes their seasons a lot more stressful than it should be. Instead of feeling good about having a 16-4 record and looking forward to having the opportunity to play for something, they have to settle for ECAC while teams like Hunter and other bad teams get rewarded for playing in AWFUL conferences. Lets only take 1 or 2 teams from the SEC this year and see how the world likes that one.